Wii U V.S PS4 Images and Video Comparison

Adnans Compared the PS4 and Wii U graphics? are the PS4 graphics that much better?

[Neonridr]

While the PS4 does have some very impressive graphics, the Wii U will in no way be left behind like the Wii was in comparison to the 360/PS3. Obvioulsy when multiplat games release on all three, then some sacrifices will have to be made for the Wii U version. But the Wii U has the ability to at least run some of the same game engines potentially. Obviously the key thing will be the processors, since the PS4 will have 8 cores compared to the three in the Wii U. This may result in some CPU intensive games from not being able to be released on the Wii U due to some possible technical limitations. We will have to wait and see of course.

Exciting times regardless. I will be getting one of the next gen systems from Sony or MS to compliment my Wii U. But I will reserve my judgement until I see what MS brings to the table.

[Adnan_rules]

very nice comment. I agree, i think its wrong to say the Wii u will be miles apart.

[Enemy]

Just compare the specs, guys.

[dcbronco]

"I agree, i think its wrong to say the Wii u will be miles apart".

I think it's realistic to say it though.

What kind of depraved mind compares the two, anyway.

[darthv72]

rationally. If we compare the wii to the wii-u we can see that the specs provide a significant increase in proposed fidelity. Going from 480p to 720-1080p is quite a jump and the games will reflect that.

Comparing the ps3 to the PS4 we can see that the biggest improvement was the increase in memory. We know the cell was already a strong chip but had been paired with a gpu that didnt live up to its potential. If it did, sony would still be with nvidia instead of switching to AMD/ATI.

Many (if not all) of the games shown yesterday more than likely started development on Ps3 hardware. you can see many similarities but most importantly, the lighting and shadows are better. This is probably due to those titles being shifted over to PS4 dev kits within the last few months.

So we are used to seeing PS3 level of graphics in 720-1080p and the PS4 will output the same resolutions but with a higher polygon count and better AA. This would be akin to going from medium settings on a game to high but keeping the same resolution (ie more textures and finer details being noticeable).

The graphical performance of the PS4 is helped by the increase in unified memory where as the ps3 was somewhat hindered by the split memory design. We can see that the 360 (to some extent) played a role in the PS4 design. By that i am referring to using a unified memory, more standardized pc development architecture and most of all ATI graphics.

Those could just be coincidences or they could be legit improvements sony saw the need to make to build a better box.

The jump from wii to wii-u is one that is (right now) overshadowed by all the talk of the PS4 but its jump is significant enough to really be noticeable. Many say wii-u is not nextgen but that is where they are wrong. Wii-u is as much nintendo's nextgen offering as ps4 is for sony.

The main difference is the amount of improvements nintendo has made from wii to wii-u are more significant than those sony made from ps3 to ps4. The best comparative would be wii to wii-u is equal to ps2 to ps3. Both were significant improvements. PS3 to PS4 is not as significant (at the moment) but it can be given time and experience and games really made from scratch using the PS4 hardware.

[gaffyh]

Yes, the games will be scalable to Wii U, obviously Wii U is likely to suffer with the worst version of all multiplatform games, but the bigger question that will be on the developer's minds is, "Is it worth porting the games to Wii U?" Until Nintendo can prove that Wii U owners will buy games other than first party titles, it's unlikely that the Wii U will be supported by most developers, especially indie studios who are short on cash.

[blackbeld]

I still buy both so it doesn't matter.

WiiU and PS4 they both have great exclusives!

And both can play online for FREE!

[aceitman]

here is a spec chart to look at to see the big difference.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

[nveenio]

Anyone who bought the WiiU thinking it would be on par with the PS4 horribly miscalculated their purchase. That's not to say that the WiiU won't do okay, but it's certainly not going to be the same top-level experience as PS4.

[fatstarr]

so now people go to specs on n4g...

Lmao Ive seen it all.

reguardless, wiiu's hardware can push out graphically good looking games, seeing as people are still claiming ps3 has the best graphics in the universe and the wiiu's specs > the ps3 logically that means that the wiius graphics would be accepted as better than gen 7.

gen 8 wise, if its built from the ground up for each system visually they will all look good. from a high end pc owner you eventually get to the point where it doesn't matter since you wont see it unless you sit and pay attention zoming in and out to see the 5 hours of work some coder/3d artist put on some chain link fence.

wiiu pushed to the limit can achieve that quality with gimped tricks and good mastery of the hardware. its gonna be a case of devs optimizing engines to run on 8gb of ram that will be the future down fall 4 years from now should they choose to pull a exclude Nintendo from everything.

[pixelsword]

It's not just specs, it's also the talent of the devs.

[bigrob904]

if you look at the game deep down they showed, it would be stupid to compare it to any game the wiiu ever does. that is one of the single most impressive looking games i have ever seen and i have seen games running on ultra settings on a pc.

[subtenko]

WiiUPS4 LOL We UPS! ....yea its late

[BattleAxe]

WiiU - 2GB DDR3 RAM

PS4 - 8GB DDR5 RAM

I'm sorry, but based on the RAM specifications alone, the WiiU is pathetic.

[ABizzel1]

First off these are two very different games. While Xenoblade 2 may be open world, RPG's don't have to render things that FPS have to constantly keep running like particle effect, bullet effects, weapon fire lighting, etc... Also looking at the games you can see Killzone has tons of graphically effects that the "X" trailer doesn't have like real-time reflections, insane lighting effects, and tessellation (X has great textures, but none of that going on). So off the back Killzone is pushing a lot more graphic intensive features thus "X" is able to hold it's own a bit more simply because it doesn't have to worry about said features and can focus on polygons and textures rather than advanced processing. Killzone is also running 1080p and X is most likely 720p.

Secondly the image quality of both screenshots are horrible. They're both foggy looking, and it looks like the author purposefully picked the least impressive shots of Killzone.

This is a much better comparison if only I could get them side by side. Solution click Killzone then click X one after the other to better compare.

Killzone

http://pressakey.com/show-g...
http://www.gamalive.com/ima...
http://www.gamalive.com/ima...
http://www.abload.de/img/de...
http://www.everyeye.it/publ...
http://blogs-images.forbes....

X (A lot of the images are sub 720p, but that's because the image quality seems to vastly deteriorate when using anything 720p or higher, so the game may have been rendered on something more like 720 x 480, instead of true 1280 x 720. So for quality I used the lower resolution for better looking images.)

http://blogs-images.forbes....
http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/...
https://lh5.googleuserconte...
http://17f0418678386b4e6860...
http://imagenes.es.sftcdn.n...

As you can see X looks great on the Wii U, but it doesn't compare to Killzone on the PS4. This is nothing against the Wii U at all, and X is doing some really impressive stuff with the console, but again that's going to be one of Nintendo's next batch of games, while Killzone is a launch title. By no means will this be PS360 vs. Wii, but Wii U is still behind nonetheless.

Capcom's Deep Down is a better look at the future of the PS4. Chose this scene because it actually looks like gameplay.

http://www.totallygn.com/wp...

Not trying to bash the WIi U at all, just being fair.

[Quetzll]

Most people don't consider the fact that if Nintendo wanted direct competition with Sony and Microsoft, then they would obviously make a "just as powerful" console. But Nintendo quit worrying about that after the Gamecube.
No point in trying to compete with Sony, Microsoft, and PC when they could just focus on their own style and not have to worry about the other 3 cutting in on their potential profits.

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Not to be a negative nancy but this was the worst article I've ever read. No one thinks the Wii U can compete graphically with the PS4 any more than the PS3 can. The PS4 has amazing and expensive tech designed for graphical power. The Wii U is nearly the opposite and is designed for low cost / low power consumption with its gimmick being lagless streaming to the gamepad.

You might as well compare my ability to drive a manual transmission car to a baby's. I'll kick that baby's a** no problem. Does that make it a terrible baby? Does it make that baby a worse person than me? No, because that's not the point of the baby.

I know no one on n4g actually reads the articles and this time I wish I did the same. I think I lost some IQ points.

[That-Guy]

Nah, somehow I get the vibe a lot of the developers are just going to snub the Wii U. However, unlike last gen, this time Nintendo's console should be much easier to develop for, or tune down as it'll support most of the major game engines.

[NobodyImportant]

@ElectricKaibutsu

"No one thinks the Wii U can compete graphically with the PS4"

Is this your first time on N4G? ;-)
Can I show you to Exhibit A ... ExtremeAzure's comment below. VVV

"I just hope people get it through their heads that the Wii U isn't as technologically challenged this time around. NFS: Most Wanted U is proof of that."

[mistertwoturbo]

ElectricKaibutsu

lol I literally laughed out loud.

This guy just made an analogy of driving a manual transmission and kicking a baby.

I've seen it all.

[SugarSoSweet]

The PS4 is much stronger then the Wii U

One has 2GB of DDR2 memory the other has 8 GB of GDDR5 memory

do the math!

[Shadow Flare]

Never gonna see anything remotely close to this on Wii U.

http://i.minus.com/ibkLh2II...

[ProjectVulcan]

Performance wise the gap will be significant. Don't know why anyone would try to pretend otherwise.

PS4 is an order of magnitude faster across the board, much quicker CPU, much more and much faster memory and system wide bandwidth, much faster GPU to the order of 4 times at least.

It isn't all about specs. It is about the games portfolio.

BUT if you are talking about specs, then it is ridiculous to think Wii U is close to PS4. It just isn't.

PS4 is easily capable of besting Wii U assets running games in 1080p, compared to 720p or less for most Wii U titles.

Closer than Wii was to 360/PS3, but still a yawning chasm.

[lizard81288]

3DS vs Vita. The Vita should be kicking ass, but it is failing. I'm more interested in the games, rather than specs.

[xursz]

We'll see the difference when Watch_Dogs launches on both systems. Regardless. Let's be nice about it because I want Nintendo to stay in the game and not turn out like Sega. :)

When the Wiiu gets a decent price drop it should do fine.

[edit]
@above; Urgh, that statement angers me.

The psvita isn't failing any more than the Wiiu is, in fact it has a larger install base (for obvious reasons) and far more software sales. Third parties like Ubisoft have admitted to acceptable software sales for their exclusive Assassin's Creed game on psvita meanwhile they switched the exclusive Rayman Legends to multiplatform just to be sure they can make a profit.

I apologize if this came off rude. I disliked that fanboy tone.

[AKR]

I agree. I just hope people get it through their heads that the Wii U isn't as technologically challenged this time around. NFS: Most Wanted U is proof of that. If we see devs coming out with the same level of effort, the Wii U has a bright future on its horizon.

There's no doubt that there's going to be a visual difference when comparing Wii U to PS4/720 - but there's NO WAY we're going to see another Wii vs. PS3/360. The gap is much smaller this time around.

[firelogic]

Yes, the WiiU is great compared to PS3 and 360 which is downright pathetic. The WiiU came out 7 years after the 360 and you're lauding how great NFS looks in comparison?

The WiiU is not even in the conversation, yet again. It's all about PS4/XboxX.

[quantae06]

@firelogic All XBOX is going to have is Gears & Halo that's it with a bunch of 3rd party multiplats that other console will have. You may get some Kinect casual games. I say it's more like PS4/WiiU.

[HammadTheBeast]

Look at NFS Wii U, then DriveClub.

Yeah, massive difference. There's no way around it, the PS4 is much more powerful than Wii U. Also, remember all these other features in the back. Resume/Suspend mode. Share button allowing recording and uploading on the spot. View/Try mode.

Wii U better have a massive firmware patch soon that can take advantage of that whole GB of background ram.

[truechainz]

@Hammondtheone I don't think anyone is disputing that so why say there is no way around it? It is FACT of course that the PS4 is much stronger than the Wii U, but all he was saying that the gap betwee Wii U/PS4 is much smaller than Wii/PS3 which is also FACT. Also I'm pretty sure that the Wii U can suspend/resume games as well, but I'm assuming the PS4 will run a lot smoother regardless thanks to its 8 gigs

[_-EDMIX-_]

I find it strange that you're actually using a current generation game as an example. the Wii U is not as technically challenged......compared to the PlayStation 3 and 360 that is. but could the same not be said about the Wii versus the PlayStation 2 an Xbox?

( slow down everyone the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 need to watch out the Wii now has PlayStation 2 graphics now! Look out PS3! can you believe thatGun, Tony Hawk wasteland and Need for Speed Most Wanted were running on the Wii!!!! Looks like the Wii won't get left behind after all)

now I question this to you where is Mass Effect where's Assassin's Creed and where is Battlefield on the Wii?

you know why watch dogs is on the WiiU? Because there's a PlayStation 3 and 360 version. I could assure you not a single next generation IP being announced will be announced for Wii U. only the games that happen to have current gen versions of ie watch dogs

[AKR]

To continue ~ I used NFS Most Wanted as an example, because of the effort that was put into it. It uses the high-res textures of the PC version of the game, which is pretty impressive. They also improved the lighting and shading, and even reflections.
If more devs follow Criterion, with that level of effort to really try and make use of the hardware, the Wii U can see some pretty great looking multiplat games.

I'm not disputing the fact that the PS4 and 720 will have an edge, but the level of difference will be more subtle than Wii vs the PS3 and 360.
And also ~ Driversclub was made for the PS4, from the ground up. Most Wanted U is still an enhanced port, so you can't really make a solid comparison there.

And I doubt the reason that the Wii U is getting a game like Watch Dogs only because last-gen versions exsist. Like I said, the hardware has potential, but its up to the devs to use it. 'X' looks amazing, and that was just alpha footage, not to mention its an early game. I can only imagine how Wii U games will look, once devs get better acquainted with the tech.

[NobodyImportant]

@ExtremeAzure

"I'm not disputing the fact that the PS4 and 720 will have an edge"

That is quite an understatement. lol

[mistertwoturbo]

Why is this conversation even happening? My god???

[MNGamer-N]

I agree as well. PS4 + WiiU = You get to play every game that will be created next gen, minus any Xbox exclusives. It's the perfect combo. And with the news of off screen play with Vita, I am now considering a purchase of that system as well.

[Blackdeath_663]

pc+ps4 is the perfect combo. not really interested in nintendo games but thats just me. i really hate microsofts focus on kinect

[ambientFLIER]

How is it the perfect combo when you're missing out on killer apps like Halo 5, seeing as how amazing Halo 4 was...

[HammadTheBeast]

@Ambient

Too bad you missed out on GT5, Journey, Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet, God of War, Uncharted, Starhawk/Warhawk, MAG, Resistance, Sly Cooper, and many more.

See, everything goes both ways.

[donman1]

100% agree, WiiU/PS4 combo for the win.

[Just_The_Truth]

I don't see the wiiu getting a ton of multiplatform games, if any at all. It's not even getting support right now. Third parties tried to make wii games because it was a massive hit. Everyone had one but the wiiu is a different story.

[Venoxn4g]

wow, you just compared no HD console (Wii) to HD ones :D sorry, but this time around it will be different.. plus Wii U can run next gen engines.. so there's a decent chance that multiplatform games will come to Wii U.. for me next gen is PS4 & Wii U combo.. :) ..and Vita with 3DS

[jmc8888]

Actually the Wii U has received a good amount of 3rd party games.

The point is right now there aren't many games coming out for any console, and most games that are, are exclusives in the works for 3-4 years.

The Wii U is capable of pretty much any game that releases on next gen consoles, unless it is severely CPU bound, which is very rare.

Even then the other next gen consoles will struggle too, since all next consoles have crap for CPU's. Even the PS4's 8 core chip is a tablet/mobile low power chip.

It's 8 cores are signficantly less powerful than a midrange PC desktop from 2007-2008. So I think it's accurate to say that while all will be able to have great games, the CPU portion isn't the primary pusher and any game maker that tries to make a game based more on a CPU is going to fail when it comes to a console version.

[AKR]

Remfmber how many games the 360 and PS3 missed out at the beginning of their lifetimes?

It's new tech, entering at a time when newly releasing titles may have been in development years before. Devs would now have to take the time to port it over. That's why the Wii U is getting a large tsunami of third party titles at this time, but it will pick up soon enough.

Even so, the third party games already released, and to be released, are already much more stronger third party support than what we saw on Wii, so that's a good sign.

[DA_SHREDDER]

If Watchdogs can be done on the WiiU, what more can you ask for?

[Just_The_Truth]

Good point but I remember unleashed 2 was hardly the same game. The AI was terrible and the enemies were cut in half. This may not be the case with watch dogs though.

[akaakaaka]

Watchdogs an be even done on a PS3 with lowered visual nothing new there.. it was the must ugly game showed in the PS4 but the game lay seem fun!

[MasterCornholio]

Well that isnt much proof of anything since the game is coming to both the 360 and the PS3.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

"Watch Dogs coming to Xbox 360 and PS3 'for sure,' producer says"

Edit: Those pics are kind of bad. Here are some better ones.

X 1280x720P

http://cdn-thumbs.viddler.c...

Killzone Shadow Falls 1280x720

http://cdn-static.gamekult....

Dang its difficult to compare these 2.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't understand the you seem to think that the name of the game means the exact technical build? If I tell you crysis is running on the PlayStation 3 do you truly believe I'm referring to it running in 1080 p 60 frames and looking the exact way as on PC? It's almost like saying assassins Creed is on the DS I can't believe it can achieve PlayStation 3 graphics..... please don't be so naive and ignorant.

I believe they game by the name of Call of Duty 4 was also released on the Wii please go back and take a look at it and tell me how great it was. because if that is what you're referring to buy "playing" on the Wii U I'm sorry but that system is going to get left behind fast.

why should a third party developer waste any time trying to port games to such a low tech system? They might as well just keep porting to PlayStation 3 in 360 if that's the case. it won't happen because publishers are not just in some sort of big team together they're all competing against each other why should they waste precious resources porting to a lessor system?

put it this way the Wii is the number 1 selling console this generation yet it still didn't get ports to any of the major third party IPs. is there a reason they should change their minds?

they are going to repeat what they did this generation. don't expect next generation IPs on Wiiu there wasn't on the Wii.

Resident Evil 5? Mass Effect? Battlefield series? all successful huge series this generation all skipped the Wii! even despite it being the best selling current generation system. expect more of the same by third party developers anybody notice that battlefield 3 has been absent from the WiiU?

I'm curious to see where that game is now, EA hasn't said a peep about it

[mistertwoturbo]

I will quote Reggie.

"If you did a side-by-side comparison," Fils-Aime said, "You would actually see that third-party games like Call of Duty look dramatically better on our system."

Granted he was talking about the PS3/360.

I can bet you he will have a different answer if someone asks him about the PS4.

[PopRocks359]

@Neonridr

As usual, a very level headed and insightful comment.

The graphics on what's been shown on the PS4 do indeed look exquisite and clearly better than what's been shown on the Wii U, but I don't think the Wii U will be left behind graphically either.

I may be proven wrong with time, but until then I'm keeping my expectations level. I am happy with my Wii U and I am also interested in the PS4.

[Godmars290]

But this isn't a comparison to the Xbox/PS3 and the WiiU, but the WiiU and the PS4. And there is a notable difference between the WiiU and PS4. You even admit to as much and are yet trying not to?

[lilbroRx]

There is a noticeable difference between the Wii U and 360/PS3. It has been seen Trine 2: DC wasn't presented.

[Snookies12]

Yes, the Wii U looks good right now, and it WILL look better as time goes on. However, it is only a step up currently from PS3/360 games. The PS4 that was shown is like 5 steps up, not to mention the fact that it has so much more room to grow. The thing has 8 GBs of ram people, that is 16 times the amount the PS3 had in terms of the base value of ram, not to even mention the fact that it's GDDR5... In the end, it really will leave the Wii U in the dust. That's why the Wii U needs to focus on getting some really seriously sought after core games.

[Neonridr]

huh? Nobody said that the graphics on the PS4 weren't better than on the Wii U. We were saying that the gap between what we saw with the PS3 and the Wii won't be the same this time around with the PS4 and the Wii U. The Wii U can produce some pretty stunning visuals which means that most sensible gamers won't be as unsatisfied as they were with the Wii visuals when comparing to the PS4.

[rainslacker]

The differences may be notable, but I don't believe they are drastic enough to leave the Wii U behind. Maybe by the time the Wii U reaches the end of it's life cycle we will see a dramatic difference.

I personally feel what I've seen from the Wii U so far the games are up to par graphically. On the other hand I'm not really a graphics whore.

[Steadyhndz]

The Wii wasn't really left behind...in terms of hardware yes, but in terms of how well it did financially...no.

What is happening in reality is somewhat contradicting what you're saying though. For instance, lets say the Wii didn't do well in sales either, but this time you say the Wii U will not....The Wii U is already behind in Nintendo's projections by millions of units. So with that being said, it is behind in sales.

Lets take a look at the hardware. Well there isn't much to say because the PS4 as predicted pretty much has a modern day computer put into it (Don't take this as exaggeration if you're going to comment on this). So the limits of the Wii U are immensely less than the limits of the PS4...just have to wait and see what Microsoft has to offer to see if you're statement is half true for the time being.

[Angrymorgan]

My only real concern is if wiu starts selling well, third party games will be on all 3 next gen consoles.
Does this mean we will have half assed ports on ps4/720? Will wiiu be holding back full third party potential on ps4/720?.

Don't get me wrong, I like nintendo, but I don't wanna see them holding back what's possible on nxt gen ps/xbox.
Just like all consoles hold back 3rd party multiplats on pc.

[trikster40]

The Wii outsold the 360 and PS3. How many half-assed ports did the 360/PS3 get? Hardly any.

Even if the WiiU takes off, developers will still be drawn to the other two systems because, for some unknown reason, 3rd party games just don't do that great on Nintendo systems. It's bizarre.

[DivineAssault]

umm wii u doesnt even have 1/4 the amount of 3rd party support as sony/ms has.. They may get some gems that get ported here n there but games being held back by wii u is the last thing u need to worry about.. If anything, wii u geting anything at all from outside devs is what should concern u..

[TranceXTheory]

you are a moron! really. consoles hold back PC so... tell me what your saying and how its valid. graphics shouldnt be the concern but AI control. i rather have smarter enemies in game than tweaked graphics

[Angrymorgan]

Nice....there is always some keyboard warrior who has to insult me.........sorry dude.....please don't hurt me lol

What I'm saying is. Multiplat games are usually made for the weaker system, using said systems limitations, then they are ported to pc etc. Thus holding the pc/higher spec systems version back.
Is that really such a moronic thing to say or are you just naturally an ass hole?

[pain777pas]

You guys are forgetting important things. Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica. Look at the Last of Us and God of War Ascension. The Wii U cannot even match that right now. The potential is there without streaming to the pad. But, like the 3DS gimmicks will hold the system' graphical prowess. PS4 is going to amaze. There is no question about it. First Party for Sony is too strong in every area of development.

[truechainz]

I don't know I do see value in the gamepad and clearly sony does too (not saying they stole the idea just saying that they wouldn't have put it on if there wasnt something to it). Games like watchdogs have components that look like they would have amazing gamepad implementations so there is definite value there. That doesnt mean that the PS4 wont still be amazing though so the way I see it we all win.

[pain777pas]

Which gamepad? The Wii U gamepad is a waste. It should be exactly what the Razer tablet is with low specs. That would be revolutionary. Ninty has done is fisher price tablet stuff. The system is too much of a toy being tethered to the console and not being a stand alone tablet. Mario, Zelda and Metroid fans (like myself somewhat) will save Ninty from disaster as we always have but Sony is going to do great for core gamers.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Mario Kart Wii sold more than ALL of Naughty Dogs PS3 games put together!

In other words, unless your a die hard Sony fan, NOBODY buys (let alone cares) about PS IP's!

[pain777pas]

Mario Kart is a perfect casual game with the mascot of all mascot's. You have to understand that Nostalgia makes Ninty go and me aswell. Sony competes with everyone and Nintendo relys on a great past. you have to understand that Mario is like almost 30 years old and is recognizable to just about everyone. But objectively Naughty Dog are the industry leaders. They made the best Mario Kart type game, best 3D platformer and now they are proven and can do whatever they want to keep gaming alive and well for the FUTURE. I respect and love the past but anticipate the future.

[DivineAssault]

well wii u is HD at least so the games wont look ugly anymore.. However devs might not want to put in the effort to downscale games & or optimize em for wii u when the heavy hitters release.. Ill always support nintendo to the end but support wise, i know its going to be the same exact thing again

[MariaHelFutura]

In terms of specs they're not even in the same league. Nintendo chose to do this, accept it. E3 should be interesting this year, I'm not sure Mario in HD and Zelda in HD are going to get much attention between MSFT talking about their new console and Sony showing ground up PS4 gameplay footage.

[jmc8888]

So you're saying a PS4 with a midrange 2011 GPU and a midrange 2007-2008 CPU is out of Nintendo's league?

Why because it has 6gb's of memory dedicated to a video card that can only properly push 1.75-3 GB's?

Because what you saw yesterday was a PC demo and you thought it was a PS4?

Think of it this way, people that understand this generation know that any dev that wants to support the Wii U, can support the Wii U. The next gen engines scale well. That's why you see 'next gen' engines running games on the 360/PS3 for the past couple of years. Crysis 2? Crysis 3? Battlefield 3? ETC.

If an uber PC is 3x a midrange PC and a midrange PC is 2.5-3x a PS4 and a PS4 is 3x a Wii U, yet all can play the same games, then yes, they are ALL despite the vast power differences, in the same league.

The real question is, how do the consoles slow down PC gaming starting around 2016-2017 because more attention is paid to consoles by the big devs. Thus the gap between consoles and PC's will be worse this generation then last generation, unless it's a much shorter generation.

Other than that, we're still years away, and between now and then there's tons of fun to be had on Wii U/PS4/720/PC.

[HammadTheBeast]

LOL Mario and Zelda THATS NEW!

Face it, Nintendo screwed up, the PS4 does everything the Wii U can and so much more. This wasn't even E3 it was a random presentation by Playstation. They haven't even shown the console, yet hype is escalating. PS E3 will blow everything away.

But, we could also let Microsoft announce something and have its time in the sun. Until the PS clouds come in.

[Amiroo]

@Neonridr

True, as a xbox fan i didn't even think of that the wii u will get behind. it has powerfull hardware and lost of potencial and i really like it and i'm sure nintendo and it's fans doesn't feel they left behind.

actually i love & respect nintendo because i grown up with it.

sorry for crappy english :)

P.S: and this whole PS4/X720 will destroy Wii u thing or do that or spec this & some articles earlier is just a hype for announcing new consoles and that's it. important part is what fans really think of their platform

[user3915800]

PSST, you have no idea on what you are saying, 8 core, 8gb ddr5, blu ray does not = 2GB 4 CORES of generic wii specs.

The play field its simple 8gb of ram its what both xbox and ps4 will use with similar cpu 8 core, now grow up and stop trying to patch a hole in which the wiiu is in. Facts are there, are we blind enough to lie to ourselves?

Simple wiiu its dead comparing it to next gen its the most ridiculous thing any fanboy can do. PS4 AND 720 will be 3 to 4 times more powerfull then wiiu, ps4 already is by the spec shown, do we need to say anything else? Grow up and acept defeat, its healthy to know when you have the lowest deck of cards.

[n4f]

i looked at the wii ans ps3 and 360 and im pretty sure you said the same thing.
now i look at wiiu ps4 and durango i dont think things will change again

[Killzoner99]

Are you kidding me? The WiiU runs on outdated and ancient tech, it's basically two Wii's duct taped together. It can't even out perform the PS3 .Sorry to burst your bubble but Nintendo is pretty much done now. There is no way they can compete against the PS4 . Plus with the Vita the PS4 will do everything the WiiU can but 1000 times better. Trust me , in about three years we'll all be playing Super Mario games on the PS4.

[silkylove]

I'm a WiiU owner and I plan on buying a PS4 as well. I wouldn't count on the PS4/Vita combo besting the WiiU at their own game unless Sony plans on bundling a Vita together with the PS4. If they don't then you have a splintered userbase and 3rd parties will design most PS4 games with the Dualshock 4 in mind, because that's what everybody has. They may include vita support as well, but that won't be a key feature.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Name me one example where the most powerful console has won ANY console war?

Thanks for your tired old clique though!

[delboy]

You'll never ever have a good game experience using remote control.
I tried it with ps3 and psp, and is way to laggy to play games.
The same goes for Gaikai and streaming, it's just a poor attempt to push the DEAD VITA.

Gonna wait for MS to decide for next generation.
But now it looks like I'm going to PC for graphics and multi platform, and WiiU for innovation.
Yes, ps4 lacks innovations the interests me,I could care less about share button LoL and uploading game video WTF Sony?
And for watching someone playing a game, well I have YouTube no need for ps4,so it's a useless feature, again WTF Sony?

[paul1974]

This makes me laugh! 60% of the world has poor internet! the vita and ps4 rely on the internet to connect! poor internet means lag and latency! so no they cant do what the wii u does!!!! learn your facts Wiiu has NO latency at all.

oh and wii u here in the uk is £225 for premium, ps4 will be £400 and the vita £200 so £600 vs £225! not sure anyone can afford the ps4! it's going to die a death too!!!!!!!!!!

[MEGANE]

amen dcbronco, amen!

[greenpowerz]

What exactly is being compared here? Finalized Wii u specs/games on a console vs PC footage with PS4 specs.

Bad comparison as things changed on un finalized specs assuming Sony is being honest about what they're doing.

[deafdani]

Nope, the Wii U game that was used for the comparison is in its early alpha stage (early development), and we don't even know if it was actually running on Wii U hardware.

It's a pretty silly comparison, actually.

[Lifebanisher]

No offense, but i have a feeling that when a game gets released for wii-u, ps4 and xbox 720 whatever that game is. it will get dumbed down cause of the wii-u's limitations.

[Steelmanner]

What limitations? The Wii U has already proved its great graphics with need for speed: it was running the PC graphics on high. However, I will understand the concerns for the processing power, but come on, there is no way it could run games like Watch Dogs and Destiny (Hasn't been announced but is likely), without good processing. The only reason the version of a game would be different for WiiU is because the game would support functions for the gamepad. Also, nothing should be taken from this article the comparison shots were both blurry and on games that were in beta or even earlier in the development stage.

[Qrphe]

I'd say the jump from Wii to PS360 is actually about the same that the jump from Wii U to PS4. Many people imply the Wii was a terrible console when it could actually pull off a lot of features that 360 hardware could but (for starters) compare what a multiplat game between the 360 and Wii look like.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

There aren't many AAA ports that made it to Wii, but similar cases occurs for those as well.

[Ck1x]

The PS3/360 were like 14x the power of the Wii, how can you say that PS4 will be the equivalent jump over WiiU? The problem with the last generation was how different the Wii architecture was from PS3/360. But even in Sony's conference, they pretty much laid out that all of these next systems will be GPGPU centric and focussing less on CPU. The whole physics test running on the GPU is clearly showing that Sony is in agreement with Nintendo in having a more pronounced graphic set-up to the console. Will the PS4 be more poweful? Yes! But that doesn't mean that great looking games can't exist on the WiiU though. And people claiming that the 8core AMD APU processor is powerful, really need to stop! Now I'm not saying its weak, but it will be efficient for what PS4 needs it to do. But there are quad-core processors that shred this thing apart easily in benchmark tests, so lets not call it powerful.

[Gaming_Guru]

As of right now, nothing on the Wii U made me want to go out and get one. I understand the Wii U is more powerful than the current generation systems (PS3, XBOX 360, Wii), but what they offer does not appeal to me. When I saw the PS4 graphics it looked like they were playing in CGI quality, on top of that streaming live to your friends and even taking over a game while they watch you play, blows my mind.

[paul1974]

streaming live funny! half the world has crappy internet! this means lag lag lag lag! have fun in those laggy games! cue frustration! to get an understanding of lag and lag compensation streaming over the internet go to blackops 2 forums!!!

[Gaming_Guru]

To: paul1974

Well they have background processes going on, but time will tell whether it works smoothly or not. Either way it's still a buy for me because of the amazing features it has with assuming still free online.

[DomceM]

wii u will be left behind. anyone who knows specs knows this.

PS4, XBOX 720, and PC can be coded for somewhat in the same bracket.

Wii U is far behind and the only outlier.

[Rayansaki]

It's just wrong. Wii was equivalent to xbox in specs, so it was 1 full generation behind. Now Wii U is equivalent to the PS3 in specs and it's the exact same situation. Once we are 1-2 years into the next gen, Wii U will once again be left behind.

[sGIBMBR]

Wait, you actually believe in your heart of hearts that the PS3 was a generation ahead of the 360?

Please, that's too funny even for a Sony fanboy!

It is quite obvious the PS4 (Visually) is going to blow the Wii U out of the water, why are people even questioning this? I don't think anyone was expecting such a powerhouse when Sony announced the PS4. 8Gb of GDDR5 Ram alone is quite unbelievable.

My only concern now is the price, however... ShopTo (UK Games Retailer) have priced it on their website - http://www.shopto.net/video...

The shocker to me is that games are apparently £48.85 each, I hope this changes.

Nevertheless, this has got me pumped and I simply can't wait to see Microsoft's answer to this. As the 360 is my current number one choice of console right now (I do own a ps3) I can honestly say, it's do or die for MS now, they either show games or I'm gone! The other thing they need to do is justify Xbox Live's subscription, because if what Sony has shown remains free, there's no way you can charge for Xbox Live!

Sadly, I don't think Microsoft will WOW me, the way Sony's presentation did a few days ago.

[Rayansaki]

@sGIBMBR you must either be retarded or have fanboy shades so thick that you can't even distinguish "xbox" from "xbox360".

[sGIBMBR]

Maybe you should be more clear in what you say, just saying Xbox is very vague! And I genuinely thought you meant the 360!

However, you're still a tool! The Wii U is clearly ahead of PS3, even if it's not as much as some would of thought, you're just too far up Sony's arse to admit it.

[Psn800]

Let's just hope we all enjoy our preferred console .

[SilentNegotiator]

Many pubs/devs have decided to SKIP the Wii U all together because it's not the leap that they wanted.

Wii U WILL be left behind. They went with a more hard/core-friendly system and it won't be able to play a bunch of the games going to the Ps4/720. The incredible Nintendo fanboy denial on N4G needs to stop.

Less games AND less sales are all but assured for Wii U.

[stragomccloud]

It really won't I imagine that the bulk of the power difference between Wii U and PS4 has to do with the PS4s social networking/streaming/video recording ability. ...which is really freaking cool by the way!

[DomceM]

clueless much ?

[CryofSilence]

It would be more appropriate to compare an open world game to an open world game... like inFamous: Second Son. The PSBlog confirmed that it was in-game engine and assets (still under much development).

[HyrulianScrolls]

Exactly. This is what I've said about Wii U for months. Yes it will be the weakest graphically, but the difference will be nowhere near the gap between Wii and 360/PS3. I was not blown out of the water by any of PS4's real in game graphics shown. I can guarantee you the casual nongamer would have no idea those weren't 360/PS3 games shown yesterday. The graphics leap is obviously nowhere near as big as it was last gen.

And furthermore Sony proved PS4 is basically just PS3 with better graphics and improved social communication. And I really don't think that will sell anyone besides Sony fanboys on the system. PS4 will struggle just as hard out of the gate as Vita or Wii U, maybe worse depending on how high the price.

[trancefreak]

All i know is that there are some seriously exciting times ahead and I will be broke :)

[1upgamer99]

Here is a thought for Microsoft. Why the hell not just give up consoles and make games for PC only...Make a person say why the hell buy apple....I know for a fact I will NOT buy 720 and PAY for live...that is so 7 years ago. If Microsoft made games for PC we would have to buy them, for the PC and the games. Not the freaking Windows 8 running in the background of my GAME CONSOLE. At the end of 360's life cycle people started buying PS3...I am not saying 360 is bad, but really come on people. Sony and Nintendo are the best at making games.

[Link079]

Look X is technically a whole different beast than killzone ps4,X is graphically light years ahead ask any developer trust me ur blind if you cant see X is graphically better than KZ wow Killzone is like a cartoon in comparison ?

[Apex13]

I 100 a free with the latter. Ps or ms will compliment my U system

[joab777]

Maybe not miles but as a nintendo fan, i believe they missed a golden opportunity to get the jump like xbox did on sony last gen. Especially since the ps4 and 720 will launch at $4-500. I just wanted so much more. Ultimately, i would compare this to dragons dogma in yerms of graphics, and it may be better. But did anyone see deep down? There is no comparison. And sony has proven that once its first party comlanies build for the ps4, its gonna get crazy. Look at what naughty dog has done with the last of us. Now, i am a big believer in games. Sony has proven that their focus is on games right now. And while it may not look as good as a $1500 utra high settings pc, it doesnt have to because games are not built for those as most ppl dont have them. So, like sony, there is hope for nintendo because of their committment to games. I just worry that the third party games will kill them. That and all the other bells and whistles the ps4/720 will offer (ie. Kinect, eyetoy, sharing, remote play, gaikai/onlive affiliation for MS, illumiroom, and on and on)

[Shnazzyone]

I can kinda say the killzone graphics look better but I'm more at odds with the content of these games. I mean Killzone is very... HEY! SPACE SHOOTER! While X looks grandiose, beautiful, and genuinely as if it has real heart and deep creativity at it's core.

I dunno, it's like seeing a michael bay and Peter jackson movie compared for special effects.

[Donnieboi]

To hell with graphics. When devs tap into those 8gb's of RAM, it's over for Wii U. The amount of characters on-screen, size of maps, destructable environments, etc will be more important than graphics. I mean, graphics don't get much better than they've been. But there will come a time when Wii U's itty-bitty RAM (by REAL next gen standards) will be much to low for upcoming games that will use most (if not all) of PS4's 8 gigs of juicy RAM.

[Muffins1223]

yes it will...wiiu is already left behind.Almost no multi-platform games are coming out for the wii-u...and

[CruelCross]

this was shared with me this morning and got me interested in looking up why all of a sudden the wii u and the ps4 are being compared. http://wp.me/p1MUmK-gF do you think we'll need a vita and a ps4 to get the whole experience when the wii u is giving you that for a much cheaper price. they do cater to the mature market now.

[chadboban]

Anyone else think it's WAY too soon to be making this comparison. Should we wait until after E3 at least. I think watch dogs will be a good comparison once it comes out as it is being released on both consoles. But regardless of comparisons I know I'm going to buy both as I love what both Sony and Nintendo offer me as a gamer.

[rainslacker]

It is way too soon. No multi-plat games across the two platforms, and comparing a very early build of a Wii U game, to an obviously further along build of a PS4 game isn't a true sign of ability.

The Wii U will hold it's own for several years at least. I once said it has at least a 5 year life before it starts to feel dated, and by then I won't care because I will likely play some really good games on both systems.

[chadboban]

I know right, I especially can't wait to see what Retro is cooking up. This year the console wars are going to be all out and it's gonna be brutal.

But as someone who enjoys all consoles, as always I'll merely be a spectator to the bloodbath along with my fellow true gamers, up on a huge tower with a glass of the finest whiskey in one hand and a Cuban cigar in the other, not to mention a giant force field to protect us should any fanboy bullets come our way from the chaos below.

It's great to just enjoy gaming and not be invested in the console war, although they are quite entertaining to watch sometimes.

[Apex13]

Way too early. Especially, when majority of games are ports. Ps will take it but U won't be 2 far behind.

[Soldierone]

I don't think the WiiU will start truly slipping until a little while into next generation. Yeah the new consoles are going to have insane specs, but third parties won't utilize them fully till the transition is nearly done and they have a bigger target audience.

The only thing truly breaking away will be the exclusives, at least for the initial year. Especially since we can all expect ports for a while.

[jmc8888]

They're not insane specs.

Insane specs are 3x GTX Titan pushing 10-13 TFlops
or 2x GTX 790's.

With 16-32 GB of DDR3 2800 with a 6 core DESKTOP Intel CPU with Hyperthreading like an i7-3970x (overclocked with watercooling, or if you really want to get crazy phase change and/or dry ice).

Those are insane specs.

The PS4 specs are basically the equivalent of a 2007-2008 midrange CPU and a midrange 2011 GPU. Hardly insane specs.

Even if they WERE insane specs, the Wii U could still run games from the same game engines. Hell even a PS3 and 360 can to some extent with some proper TLC.

[sherimae2413]

is that all what u have to say...
always resort to PC's to topple the ps4 that couldnt be done by wii u
besides i dont consider PC's to be in comparison with ps4, wii u and nextbox cuz these systems cant be built and their games with these PC's
just admit the fact that the wii u is left behind and will always be left behind by sony and MS with it comes to HARDWARE! thats not too hard to understand isnt it oni-chan ^_^

[Lifebanisher]

atleast i dont have to watch livestreams of random people on the internet anymore. i could watch my friends and that's what ps4 offers your pc specs are useless.

[smashcrashbash]

Yeah we won't actually know that it better or not until we actually see the games in action. Watchdogs being on the Wii U doesn't prove it is as powerful as the PS4.Lots of third party games were on the Wii but they weren't even close to the level of PS3 or Xbox 360 games.Being on it doesn't mean it will be the best looking one.

[jmc8888]

The Wii versions were altered. They were either different games entirely or were drastically stripped down. I mean drastically.

The Wii U won't have

No one (except fanboys) is saying the Wii U will look as good as a PS4, and Sony Fanboys (aside from future PS4 owners because I will be one) would be the only ones to say the PS4 will outdo a PC.

The simple fact is all the next gen platforms are capable of receiving the same game, just with lower settings. They won't have to make it so the world is 1/2 the size, or cut out levels, or make a vastly inferior version from scratch.

That's the difference between the Wii and the Wii U. When it comes to third party games, the Wii U is powerful enough to handle simply a lower quality version of a PC game.

Think of it like this.

2014 Games
PC will have low through ultra
PS4 will have high-very high
720 will have medium-high
Wii U will have low-medium

Basically that's what you got.

All will play great games. But alot of Sony Fanboys are thinking that a 1.8 TFlops will beat a >10 TFlops on a PC or the 3-5.6 TFlops GTX 600 series. Let alone the 700 series will be out this year to increase those numbers.

Why? Because they somehow think a GPU that is only capable of pushing 1.75 GBs-3 GBs will somehow be better because it has 8 gb's, 2 of which will be reserved for OS mind you. So of 6, really only 2-3 are relevant until the end of the cycle (say 2018 or later) to be a band-aid to mask what at that time will be clearly inferior parts.

Or because they see 8 cores and don't realize like the Wii U, it's a low power chip, not a desktop chip. That like the Wii U, the clock speed is much lower than a 360/PS3 had...because it's a mobile/tablet chip that's trying to get bang for it's buck rather than raw power.

Or because Sony fanboys saw PC games being shown yesterday and drooled because a PS4 logo was loosely attached to what they were seeing. (talk about failing the pepsi challenge)

So again what makes you so sure the PS4 will get the best version? After all Watch Dogs was made with the PC in mind, not the PS4/720.

Thus all consoles will get downgraded versions. But all will be fun, look nice, and at least with the Wii U the game has major application potential for the gamepad.

I'll be owning the PS4/720. already have a Wii U, already have a PC stronger than any of these...but when it comes to Watch Dogs, I'm either getting PC or Wii U, and my determination of which to buy will be based on what the gamepad adds. It has major potential.

[sherimae2413]

never in my that i think that playstation and xbox would beat PC's heck even the Gaming Laptops but i want consoles because its hassle-free just put the disc, pick the controller and play i dont have to adjust any settings or sometimes the game crashes because of some incompatible mods or need to install these first and that i think you know what i mean ^_^

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

What's the point in this?

[laxbeav]

While the final specs make a difference, it won't be that big. As long as the devs. can make some quality experiences on the consoles then I'll be happy. It's a good time to be a gamer.

[Trago1337]

LOL, while you guys are tied to one system, i'll have BOTH.

[smashcrashbash]

Not all of us can afford to buy two or three consoles. Some of us have to choose and stick with it. I can't be buying games for two different systems.Do you have any clue how much money it would be to buy a Wii U and PS4 and games to play on them? So we are not all tied by choice by by limitations

[truechainz]

And I must say usually the comments I see from you are respectful or valid. There are plenty of people who can afford it who come on here and spew hatred. That is the important difference.

[Trago1337]

Just pokin' some fun at the trolls bro, I totally get it.

i couldn't care less which anyone chooses.

Many users of this site certainly have a preference, AND IT SHOWS lol.

so yeah, sorry if my comment rubbed you the wrong way. :D

[Kos-Mos]

One of the best comments on n4g in a decade. If you only removed the teenish lol.

[cleft5]

Same here bro and a great gaming pc too. This whole type of conversation reeks of pathetic poor people lying to themselves about what little console is better than the next. If these guys want an impressive ass system than do it right and drop a 1k dollars on an amazing PC setup. But that is way out of their budget limit so they argue over sticks.

Don't get me wrong, I am not all that wealthy myself and we are on hard economic times worldwide. But you know what bro, I don't go around lying to myself and pretending like these consoles are in anyway the best possible gaming solution.

[telekineticmantis]

but Golly! Killzone!

[Link079]

Please if ur excited for a killzone that looks too colourful in my eyes the ps3 one is way more impressive oh X is like 4x the graphics of killzone easy the detail in the geometry ect is way beyond killzone ps4.

[zalanis]

This supposed to be a joke. Y arent the screen shot comparisons based on the game watch dogs since tht game HAS been confirmed by ubisoft for WII-U, oh i kno y cuz no screenshots yet for WIIU version right?? Well since the watchdog trailer at PS4 conference was confirmed to b in actuality running on PC, then that in itself would NOT be a fair comparison. KNO wht else isnt a fair comparison?? Comparing a 1st party PS4 game VS a 3rd party WII-U game. The editor is obviously biased, but to all the monkeys who simply jumped on this article, whts your excuse??

[Qrphe]

Watch Dogs will be running on both PS3 and PS4, so I bet their engine is flexible enough to run on most systems.

[HenryT87]

Is this guy even serious over what he's saying?Can see abismal difference between each shot.It looks like CG sequences being compared to real-time current gen graphics.

[shackdaddy]

Comparing X and KZ4 is really dumb. It's like apples and oranges.

(BTW, they both look great to me)

[josephayal]

graphics are basically equal

[Link079]

X is better by farrrrrrrr.

[tbon3man]

That did not look like the Killzone video that i saw yesterday on GTTV. It was a lot sharper than that.

[thatruth86]

This is a joke right? 0__o

[thebudgetgamer]

Seems wierd to compare different types of games, gotta compare something to get those hits.

[kirbyu]

What do you know? More first person shooters!

[WeAreLegion]

What do you know? More monster hunting!

[Theyellowflash30]

Competition brings the best out of everybody. If the PS4 and Xbox 720 come out and destroy the Wii U is sales, functionality, graphics, and games then Nintendo has a problem.

I'm a Nintendo fan but by no means am I afraid for Nintendo to fail. They've got a Scrooge McDuck vault full of money and their portable division is doing well. In four or five years from now we could see the Wii U 2 or Wii 3. Then they will be up to par. We saw how long the PS3 and Xbox 360 lasted, the PS4 and Xbox 720 are going to be on the market for the next 10-13 years. The Wii U will not.

So in all, I'm a little mad Nintendo didn't put more into their system. I'm not a huge fan of shooters like Destiny, Killzone, or Uncharted. But I would love to see a Zelda game with the level of detail as that Deep Down game Capcom showed off at the PS4 event.

[diddybeats]

The way I see it if you know football is Nintendo are a bit like Arsenal. They are trying to compete at the top level whilst balancing the books - sacrifices have to be made.
Sony right now are Man City. They have put a lot of money into the PS4 judging by the fact it the hardware will likely be sold at a loss so they are risking their business if it doesnt sell great.

[hazardman]

PSbots can't let it go can they. You get your glorious day and then decide to compare PS4 graphics to WiiU. As if we havent written off Wii U as a next gen console along with a quite a few developers and publishers!

I know PS4 is gonna be a powerhouse, so why not compare it to PC games and see where it stands not Wii U!

[Chupa-Chupa]

As a Wii-U fan after yesterday's reveal. I'm dead inside.

[kingmushroom]

the wii was never a hardcore console, so the only thing the wii U needs are the games its fan base loves, Monster hunter, zelda, Pokemon act.

[deafdani]

Implying Monster Hunter, Zelda and Pokémon aren't hardcore games. Lol.

XD

[kingmushroom]

lol not for me.

[sherimae2413]

monster hunter is not really exclusive to nintendo
oni-chan it started in playstation and capcom is not owned by ninty we could se MH in sony or ms when the time comes

[kingmushroom]

I want to see MH on PS4

[lovegames718]

Bwahhh at this article specs speak enough and ps4 Is pushing 8Gigs of the fast ram and as was mentioned already during the presentation not only does ps4 Boast a powerful gpu but a powerful cpu. Wii has way less ram, moderate gpu and crapoy cpu. Give it up this is aleap ahrad of current gen ps3, xbox and wiiu so stop it. At least one or two games st launch will scream nxt gen on ps4 and thts a gen over wiiu as well. Absolutely nothing now or at wiius launch gave any indication Of nxt gen which is sad.
For your info kz was live gameplay off ps4 hardware no matter the casing. He was literally playing it there tht will be viduals on ps4 just for starters. The bs conception tht no launch games loook better thn current gen games is a scapegoat nintendo fans made to feel better. You guys can all talk bs in these comment sections but ps4 Spec wise, socially and online is leaps ahead

[Theyellowflash30]

I agree, as a Nintendo fan.... I feel that Nintendo half-assed the Wii U. They made a boatload of cash with the original Wii and DS... They have the money to make their system stronger AND sell to casuals.... I don't know what Nintendo was thinking when they made the Wii U's graphics.... uhhhhh.

I don't like Sony's games like Killzone or Uncharted but I would kill for a Zelda that looked as good as that Deep down demo for the PS4... looks like I'll have to wait 4-5 years. Nintendo has to bring out a new system by 2016. They have too.

[n4f]

that would be thc dumbest thing nintendo would do.
with this logic nintendo should have release a more powerfull ds against vita

[diddybeats]

Just because they have a stash of cash doesn't mean they don't want to make profit on the system. It already selling at a loss. Do you think that just because they have money built up they can go to their shareholders and say we are going to build this new system but over its operating lifetime we are going to be down £5,000,000 but thats ok because we have £10,000,000 in the bank and at least theyellowflash30 will be happy because our graphics are the best.

[quantae06]

After playing the Uncharted series nothing really wows me graphically much. I'm loving the improved drawing distance and open world gameplay for both Wii U & PS4 though.

[jacksheen0000]

Man I am not going to even make commit...

There's just no comparison. Wii U vs PS4.

LOL, it like a shark eating a gold fish.

[Ck1x]

My guess is that KZ is much further along in development than X is, since its a PS4 launch title and GG's has probably had more time to work on PS4 then Monolith for the WiiU. So the two games that I would like to see eventually compared to each are KZ and Metroid on WiiU. Those two games would have more in common with play style and environment then X does. But here's my question, when Retro finally shows off their game(Metroid) at E3 and if it looks very close in quality visual wise to KZ, will people finally accept the WiiU as Next-gen? Specs aside, if Retro Studios is able to pull off something of that magnitude at e3 then hopefully all of the hateful articles will stop then... This years E3 will probably go down in history as one of the very best ever! I can't wait

[chadboban]

They won't stop, you should know this by now. It's sad but that's the way things are, once fanboys are rampant there will always be naysayers for ALL consoles, not just the Wii U. Believe me when I tell, as hard as it is to believe right now, PS4 and Nextbox will get their share of hate as well.

Doesn't matter to me though. As long as I get good games, I don't care how many "hateful" articles there are. Long live gaming.

[black911]

PS3 graphics surpass Wii U. Just look at the link.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/...

[Indo]

There's only so much you can do with the Wii U. As its greatly overpowered by Sony's PS4 and MS Next Box. For sure 1st Party Developers will play a huge part in next gen as each console will bring something to the table.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

And Apple will beat them both with a $99 TV box and games like Angry Birds

Graphics haven't mattered since the PS1 era. Weakest console wins the gen. Just ask Sony, Nintendo and Atari.

[SkullBlade169]

Lol, Apple...

I'd rather go back to using my Sega Master System rather than use their junk.

[D2K]

Yup.

Nintendo Color TV Game
Atari 2600
NES
SNES
PS1
PS2
Wii

All won being weaker or weakest.

Odyssey
5200
7800
NEO-GEO
N64
XBOX
PS3

All of them LOST being most powerful their gen. Even in handhelds it works the same way. Atari Lynx, Game Gear, Sega Nomad all more powerful than the GameBoy, and yet it still won. NEO-GEO Pocket more powerful than the GameBoy Advance, but it still won. PSP more powerful than the DS and it still won and is the best-selling console ever. The PSVita is more powerful than the 3DS and it is winning. The regular DS is even beating the Vita.

[lovegames718]

Here we ho with the weakest, console bs argument smh. What matters to me is whats in my living room and what games I like tht wins imo. Sony always wins because no matter how good the hardware is they still have the best and more varied exclusives. They kill the myth tht good graohics and good gameplay cant, coexist. Thats bs so take tht somewhere else. Graphics matter like everthing else does.

[BladerunnerZX]

Im still impressed by the graphics capabilities of both the PS3 (Killzone 3 , Uncharted 2 @ 3) and Xbox360 (Halo4),

I have no doubt that the Wii U is fully capable of some very nice graphics also. Maybe slightly above the PS3 when maxed out.

The problem with the Wii U is its overall capabilities with AI and processing when compared to the PS4 and the Xboxnext.

I dont see games like Battlefield 4 being made for the Wii U because of the less powerful hardware.

We all know that there will be many PS4 and Xboxnext games that run new advanced next gen engines that will never be made for the Wii U.

Honestly The PS4 makes the Wii U look like the PS3 1.5 but without all of the great games.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

comparisons like this are pointless. WiiU can absolutely produce some very nice looking games...so can the PS3 for that fact. What neither will be able to do, is run a game meant for the PS4...with the same frame rate, same amount of on screen content, physics, AI and resolution.

This is pointless.

[HalfNerdHalfAmazing]

it Gonna be important for MS to make Xbox live free for next gen they dont have a lot of exclusives and it look like Sony got the upper hand now

[Tikisotito]

Graphics???? Games are what matters. If you want good graphics then buy a gaming computer.

[wiiulee]

lol thats what crybaby nintendo haters dont understand...the truth is wiiu hasnt had any graphical games built from the ground up for the system, game on the ps4 and next xbox will not look that much better then games on wiiu, sharper textures and more sweat will not make or break a game...nintendo just need to keep the games coming

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Xenoblade 2
Retro's project will have to Showcase WiiU's power
(In a Core way.)

And

ZELDA will Highlight the Game play
(The graphics may or may not appeal to the Core.)

[AWBrawler]

the thing to remember when comparing X to Killzone is this: JRPG's ALWAYS purposely hold back graphics to open up more space for cutscenes, stats, story, huge worlds, etc. so if a JRPG looks that good, imagine a linear straight forward shooter

[Novistador]

People need to realize that it will not be in the graphics department that the PS4 is making leaps, it is in the AI department and user functionality that you will see the biggest difference between the Ps3 and ps4. Not saying it wont have better graphics, but if you really want to see great graphics build yourself a gaming rig. To that the Ps4 is even lacking compared to my year old rig. Nintendo has always been the compliment system. It houses some of the best exclusives that can't be found outside a Nintendo device. Mario Kart and Zelda will sell systems like they always do. The question is will people buy the nextbox or PS4. Social media aspects are neat but may not be enough,now we will have to pay attention to what Microsoft is going to do. They get to be the last this generation.

[arbitor365]

i guarantee you that

most (if not all) of the wii u's upcoming titles will be running in 720P and all of the PS4's will run in 1080P.

the wii u's version of watchdogs is going to be the worst version

baynetta 2 is going to struggle to match or out-do god of war ascension in graphics.

the witness will decimate pikmin 3 in graphics (I think that it's already established)

the wii u is never going to have a shooter that looks as good as killzone shadowfall

those are my predictions folks. watch as they all come true, like they all have so far, with the wii u.

[-IronMan-]

Wii U still around eh...

[zalanis]

-KZ4 1st party title from sony
-"X" 3rd party from monolith, not Nintendo
NOT FAIR COMPARISON
-UBISOFT GAME WATCH-DOGS CONFIRMED FOR WII-U
-UBISOFT GAME WATCH-DOGS CONFIRMED FOR PS4
(SIDE-NOTE)(UBISOFT SAID THAT DEMO RAN ON PC TECH NOT PS4)
- BOTTOM LINE, IF ANY ONE IS GOING TO DO A COMPARISON OF
SCREENSHOTS OR GAMEPLAY, THEN WHY NOT DO IT PROPERLY AND
COMPARE A GAME THAT EXISTS ON BOTH PLATFORMS. EITHER
THAT OR AT LEAST WAIT FOR A GAME FROM NINTENDO THAT
FALLS A LONG THE SAME GENRE. e.g. futuristic fps like kz4
compared to 1st party title like next metroid not
nintendoland k. that would be fair.
not right comparing 1st party games to 3rd party ones.
peace.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Loving how even after Cloney showed of their 'not so superior Wii U beater' you fanboys are still deluded enough to think the PS brand still has a chance. We all know NOTHING will changing with Microsofts 3rd party first + DLC cash fest, and Nintendo with their far superior exclusives and different enough hardware (and yes, even the millionth Mario Kart will garner more interest than ANY PS IP's..... as always) taking the second console space, I really don't see the point in Sony no more. Microsoft will undoubtedly undercut the PS4 and with no next big media player to save it's ass, it's only a matter of time!

And the irony is, YOU ALL KNOW IT!!! Though im sure you'll go down kicking and screaming and saying it ain't so!

[saint_seya]

Dude u should wait for the weed effect to go before commenting in here, u would look less ridiculous..

[Riderz1337]

This article doesn't even bother using clear images. All 4 are very blurry and you can't see anything. I mean just look at these images and this GIF. Absolutely stunning. This is not to say the Wii U does not look good and I'm sure you can find better looking screenshots of the Monolith game.

http://i.minus.com/i7dVY2F8...

^ That GIF is amazing...

[Bumpmapping]

It's like PS3 vs Wii all over again except Nintendo doesn't have advantage this time.

[Menchi]

People need to stop watching blurry, low res videos and basing their opinions on them.

Wii U is going to be graphically trounced by the PS4, and most likely, the Nextbox. Did any of you proclaiming otherwise actually watch the direct feed, 1080P videos of Knack, Deepdown or Killzone?

They are simply above and beyond what the Wii U will -ever- achieve. Art style can only do so much.

[mistertwoturbo]

While that is true, Art Style can be great also. I mean damn, the Witness looked pretty awesome for an Indie Game.

[arbitor365]

people, the PS4 kills it. it is in the facts. it is in the numbers. not only is the PS4 stronger, but it has a much much much more accessible infrastructure.

live with it and move on.

http://www.ibtimes.com/play...

[Unknown_Soldier]

The only bad thing that comes with (Sony's awesome) next gen consoles......these stupid Articles.

[Soplox]

You guys really wanna see the difference between Wii U and PS4? Wait for Watch Dogs cuz it was confirmed for Wii U also

[solid_warlord]

Ive been saying this for far too long. Looking at high end PC of today and yesteryear. I have been convinced that even with 5x, 10x or 30x the leap from last gen isn't enough of a visual advancement seen from SNES to N64 or PS2 to PS3.

Tim Sweeney mentioned last year that for the eyes to see a huge massive leap from last gen, GPU & CPU will have to be 24x more powerful than consumer level graphics card and Central Processors of today such as GTX690 and Intel Xeon.

At 24x we will be visualy close to half way "Avatar" graphics in realtime.

Next gen consoles. PS4 and Xbox next will be more like PC's. We will see better looking and improved physics of current gen games and that's all. AI wont see much of an improvement. Don't expect Leap seen from Mario Bro 3 to Mario 64/ MGS2 to Crysis type.

[D2K]

I have an interesting idea. Why not compare this...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

To this

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

If people want to have a serious discussion on this matter instead of being immature and silly, lets put all the cards on the table. The two best looking graphical outputs of the Wii U against the two best graphical outputs of the PS4 so far. Keep in mind that neither console is being pushed at all to do any of this stuff. It is far too early for that. It'll take YEARS before developers get a grasp of the Wii U, PS4, and 720 hardware.

In my opinion, the PS4 footage looks better. Should it look better? Yes. The PS4 has more under the hood than the Wii U does. Does it look a WHOLE lot better or different? No. The differences are infinitesimal. Like comparing the Gamecube to the XBOX graphics. You see a difference, but it doesn't MAKE a difference. What matters is if you have a good time playing the game you paid YOUR money for. Some people will get more enjoyment playing an fully HD Zelda runnign at 1080p at 60FPS. Some people will get more enjoyment playing Killzone running at 1080p and 60FPS.

That is all okay. Variety is good and it s good to have options. The Wii U from what I can see can produce graphics that are far and beyond what the 7th gen could ever hope of doing. The PS4 is capable of doing that, and even more and so will the 720. This constant arguing over specs and graphical prowess needs to stop. At the end of the day each of us will purchase the console(s) we like the most and games we like the most. Who wins doesn't mater because unless you are an investor of the winner, NONE of that money is going into your pockets.

History is on the side of Nintendo because all 7 generations the winner has been weaker or weakest of it's gen. Unless the 720 turns out to be even more powerful than the PS4, Sony is in a precarious situation. The most powerful consoles always LOSE and with their company's financial woes and the PS4 most definitely going to sell at a major loss, this could be sink or swim for them.

[WeAreLegion]

Can I use this, as well?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[mistertwoturbo]

Wow those two games look like they were from two different generations.

oh wait...

[TheSaint]

This isn't even a fair comparison.

[DonFreezer]

Specs matter nothing.The first Xbox destroyed the ps2 in ways you had never imagined before.
http://wars.locopuyo.com/cw...
and yet the xbox fell to the last place.So matters doesn't mean anything.

[luisloco]

to truth that are gross wii u have 2gb of video ram and ps3 has 8gb of ram system as such no video

[andshesays]

Realistically.....

The Wiiu is doomed

Stop with this false hope

Pikmin isn't out yet...

[CptBladd]

PS4 and Wii U are just fucking different philosophies, you don't need to compare them. Both are good in their own right.

[jay2]

No point even reading this when the Wii U can't even match PS3a/360's frame rates. Let along when you compare Pre-alpha/beta code against released code.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Its ball game over for wii u the ps4 blows it away and when MS show the next xbox you may aswel put the final nail in the coffin.

[Braid]

Already??? You've got to be kidding me.

I'm praying to God that PS4 and the Nextbox would have similar specs so that we could put an end to this useless comparison cr#p. It's seriously gone out of control this gen.

[_LarZen_]

It don't mater if PS4 has superior gfx, as long as I cant play Wii U exclusives on a PS4 I am playing on a Wii U for many years.

Easy as that really...

[hobohunterz]

To be honest the graphics in "X" don't seem much better than final fantasy graphics on xbox and ps3, but I guess it is still early

[DeadPixel]

Dumbest article ever???

[Alcohog]

PS4 will be day one. WiiU will be when Zelda comes out, with a special Zelda edition hopefully.

[CatXFlash]

Why bother... SONY talked specs and the PS4 crushes the WiiU left to right.

[Tzuno]

You can have tons of high specs and shitty graphics if the graphic engine is weak and the game is not optimized. Sony has those 8gb of ram because they want ps4 to do multitasking i don't think a game on ps4 will ever use full 8gb of ram. From my knowledge 4gb are enough for gaming, what is over 4gb is for multitasking.

[jeenyus]

It takes someone with "special needs" to create such a bs comparison. How about SEGA Master System vs. SNES next time?

[Jamaicangmr]

I'm primarily a PlayStation gamer but come on this was uncalled for. This is like comparing my 100m time to Bolts it's not even right.

Then again Nintendo Fans were being really a$$e$ when the Wii U launched comparing it to the PS3 and Xbox360 and pointing out minute improvements.

So to hell with it what goes around......

[SIANSLOW]

nintendo have the highest rated exclusives of every generation and its games that matter

[Studio-YaMi]

Nintendo fanboys .. come on seriously,you can see that the difference is like night & day !?

It's funny when the guy who wrote this article come out and say "yeah we still haven't seen Zelda or metroid",you do know that even though these two franchises are to be respected and are really really great,but you can't possibly suggest that their graphics will come even close to some of the 1st party or 3rd party games that the PS4 can offer !

Nintendo has repeated what they have done with the Wii & PS3/Xbox360,not saying though that the graphics on the Wii U sucks or anything,they are better than what you could find on PS3 or Xbox360,but comparing it to what we saw on the PS4 is just laughable.

Still,I'm getting all the Exclusives that come out for the Wii U,but I don't think any multiplatform games are gonna be purchased by me or many others unless you're only a Nintendo fan & only have a Wii U.

[Spookshow]

Chad Warden is that you?

You Ballin'?

LOL

[Studio-YaMi]

ahh ..
Please don't compare me to that idiot ! :\

thank you

[mechlord]

why would anyone compare the two is beyond me;
I dont want to number crunch, but i think its safe to say anyone can see that the ps4, power-wise can emulate 3 wiiu's simultaneously.

Ive seen devs make marvels like UC, GoW, GT, Infamous and the gang with a complicated architecture like the cell was...
How much are you willing to bet these guys will blast any and everything any wii game has to offer now that the architecture is more friendly?

wanna talk about games? really? dunno, maybe its me but i ll still stick with SONY and their dunno, 20+? studios?

what exactly are we comparing? a machine that almost looks like it can run serious games at 720p@30 vs another that can put out 1080p@30 easily?

[sjaakiejj]

Lol I'm sorry but I couldn't help but laugh. X doesn't hold a candle to Killzone in terms of graphics. The obvious technological differences alone set the games apart significantly already, let alone the stuff that's going on in the background.

[MilkMan]

Why are we comparing these two again?

[konohashin]

Its not "can nintendo convince third party devs that the nintendo users buy their games"

Its more like "will third party have a short time loss (to regain the trust of the abandoned nintendo users) for a long term profit?"

The problem is not the Nintendo users its the third party devs.

Microsoft knows that and would be a great third party dev u know why?Microsoft wanted to be a part of the console players they lost a ton of money and now it worked out for them.

EA etc dont understand what their role is.

its in their interest that they invest a ton of time and money to CONVINCE Nintendo owners that their games are worht it. Doing 1 half-hearted game and then giving up is not going to work. They did this once the last 4 generations and it didnt work Its time to try something else right?

The more the third party keeps ignoring/fooling/betraying the Nintendo userbase the more money and time they will need to invest to regain the trust etc. Showing the Nintendo userbase that they cant count on you and that a generation worked quite well without third party doesnt help third parties at all.
But third party is full of ignorance lol.

Its sad that todays companies dont know how to be a company. You have to take short term losses to get long term profit. No company can survice from short term profit thats not how business works. You want to expand? DO something for it dammit!

[Chiefpitchanono]

There is no doubt the ps4 has more power than the U. The problem is it takes more than power to win the console battle. After seeing the ps4 videos im betting on nintendo. 5 or 6 yrs down the road i think the wii u moves more consoles than ps4. Not gonna comment on xbox untill they make there move. It seems nintendo has closed the gap graphicly on sony and that is gonna be bad news for them over the next couple of yrs as people start to purchase new consoles. I think nintendo has the total package to compete during there consoles typical 6yr lifecycle. Great first party titles who will all make huge tech upgrades due to the new hardware. Hardware that is just good enough to get other major third part titles and a price that the masses can afford. Sure as time goes by the u will get exposed by its tech limits but it will be a slow process and by the time it really starts to hurt sales it will be time for nintendos next console. If sony keeps extending there life cycle to a full 10 yrs this time. Nintendo may lap them and have a more powerfull machine the last 3 to 4 yrs of the ps4s life span. Just an interesting thought hugh?