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Major missed opportunities in the Playstation 4 meeting

MMGN.com discusses some major opportunities missed in the otherwise successful PlayStation 4 presentation.

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mandf4072d ago

Focus on the negative instead of talking about all the info. Some of these websites are just taking shot after shot at Sony. Go read all the failed articles it's a joke. Video game journalism needs to grow up.

Zuperman4072d ago (Edited 4072d ago )

The only thing I laughed about the Sony Conference is how Square keeps showcasing these amazing CGI, Ingame, or whatever it is whenever they can't finish previous titles such as VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xPhearR3dx4072d ago

There' nothing wrong with criticism. If no one ever criticized Sony/MS/Nintendo, they would always do the bare minimum. There's 1000 positive articles for every 1 negative right now. It's not a big deal, not everyone is a troll you know. Sony can't please everyone.

mandf4072d ago

It goes beyond pro and con. It's outright hate. People have been saying it this whole gen. If people can't see it by now they are part of the problem. We as gamers should demand accountability from journalists to have an unbiased viewpoint.

DOMination-4072d ago (Edited 4072d ago )

I don't think this was honestly meant to come across as hate. The article description even says it was a very successful conference. I personally loved the whole thing except was very disappointed with Media Molecules confusing segment last night. The difference is, I wouldn't go and write an article about it.

I guess you're always going to get somebody who isn't quite satisfied. It's definitely a bit moan-y. We all know Sony has other stuff to announce in the coming months so lets just wait and see. These next few months are going to be possibly the most exciting there will ever be in gaming, as I feel we might not see consoles in this form again in the future. Lets make the most of it.

colonel1794072d ago

"Essential details, like the cost of the hardware" This right there is what's wrong with so called journalism. Who in the right mind was expecting Sony to announce the price of the PS4? When has a company announced a console and a price the same day?

JoGam4072d ago

Theres was nothing, NOTHING, wrong with that meeting yesterday. Sony never said what they're showing. The fact that this meeting came out of nowhere, the fact that Sony never gave info other than come see the future of Playstation, the fact they showed just that in two hours instead of one, and didnt pull a Wonder Book on us..... You can't get no better. Its Feb 20th for crying outloud. Why will Sony show everything they have? This is like poker, not spades. We still have TGS, GDC, and E3. Sony needs to save info to keep this momentum moving forward.

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jc485734072d ago

not going to click, but square enix is a joke. That is all.

colonel1794072d ago

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Square Enix is the worst developer nowadays. They never released Versus XIII, and now they are teasing another FF for E3? I don't get why they were there in the first place. They screwed with Sony fans so many times this generation, that I don't think anyone wants them anymore.

jc485734072d ago

give me back the 6 years I wasted.

majiebeast4072d ago

Square enix at this point isnt even relevant anymore. Lightning returns looks like a turd when you compare it to Ninokuni.

Narutone664072d ago

Hopefully, they learned their lesson and it's not too late for them. The second guy was apologetic asking us to wait for E3.

Blackdeath_6634072d ago

anything missed in the press conference whether intentionally or not will likely to be revealed at E3

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Yuji Naka guilty of insider trading breaks silence to accuse Square Enix producer of lies

Yuji Naka was fined $1.2 million and given a suspended jail sentence for the crime.

Profchaos6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I find his comments around how Balan turned out to be very insightful as to why the game is trash. He basically apologises for its existence

solideagle5d ago

can you please give some of us who don't know anything about this, a summary of what happened?

Chocoburger5d ago

Balan was knowingly rushed out by S-E, it had an extremely short dev cycle and was fairly low budget.
Naka was the game's director until near the end when he was fired or perhaps he quit, I forgot.

carrotcakeag5d ago

@Chocoburger Yeah they did fire and replace him which caused him to unload a bunch of rants about the company. The project only existed because of Naka in the first place, he convinced Square to give him one shot at making a platformer. They gave him an opportunity but pulled the rug out before he was done for reasons not explained.

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Top ‘Dragon Quest’ Producer Steps Down in Square Enix Overhaul

The top producer of Square Enix flagship Dragon Quest franchise is stepping down from the role, following delays in developing the next installment of the popular series.

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shinoff218311d ago

Please o please don't turn dragon quest into final fantasy square enix we dont wont that. Dragon quest works well just as it I. Plus you'll piss off Japanese fans to.

jznrpg9d ago

Hopefully they don’t. From this it doesn’t sound like that is the case and development is just taking too long.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies12d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken11d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga11d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken11d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12511d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91311d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher11d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher11d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken11d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder11d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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