Sony Releases Complete PS4 Specifications

Check out the complete specs of the PS4.

[TobeyMaguireFan]

they got rid of the cell?

[NastyLeftHook0]

omg ps4 is a beast!

[DasBunker]

Glad it will be more accessible. Hoping for a $400 starting price point.

[TobeyMaguireFan]

rumor in the other article says it will be $599 us dollars again

[Skip_Bayless]

True next-gen technology has been revealed.

[Gazondaily]

A few months ago we were begging for these kind of specs and people told us it wasnt happening.

Well, it's happened and then some! This machines specs are more than enough. The glimpses of the games we saw are a testament to that fact.

[LOL_WUT]

Confirmed next-gen console, showed games running on it and specs revealed... Yep pretty much how its supposed to go down ;)

#Take notes

[vickers500]

Can someone who knows their computer graphics tech explain to me how powerful the ps4 gpu is compared to say, an nvidia card? Like is it comparable to a GTX 460, a GTX 600 series or what?

[Enemy]

Looks like Tobey's crying again.

[Persistantthug]

an Nvidia 660.
That's just the GPU and just talking about Teraflops.
http://www.gpureview.com/sh...

However, we haven't really been told what the CPU's Teraflop output is yet, so the total will end up being a bit more.

[Eazy-Eman]

@tentons
so...when are you making the video of you eating your hat? Can you put some tobasco sauce on it before you eat it?

[ABizzel1]

@vickers500

What @Persistantthug said, although I don't understand why he used NVIDIA instead of AMD seeing how that's what the PS4 is using.

Using AMD the GPU is somewhere between the 7850 and 7870. Factoring in the CPU and the amazing RAM and it should be on par with that HD 7870, so mid-high PC graphics.

However, developer tools are better at coding for consoles, as the tools are focused on consistent and specific hardware, so expect to see games running comparably to current high-end PC's in the next 2 - 3 years.

On a side note seeing how precise the recent rumors for the PS4 were (besides doubling RAM), it's safe to assume that the Xbox 720's specs. are pretty close as well, for better or worse.

[ProjectVulcan]

It's going to be like a Radeon 7850. Just under 2 teraflops combined system performance. 7850 is 1.76 teraflops. 7870 by itself is 2.5 teraflops. The CPU we can assume Is the touted Jaguar cores simply because it was also called an APU and the CPU and GPU are on the same die. So it isn't gonna be a big CPU.

Being x86 architecture it will be directly comparable with desktop pc parts. If it is the 8 core 1.6ghz Jaguar based design then it's about as fast as your average dual core desktop CPU. Jaguar cores are small and designed really for tablet style applications. So pretty much any desktop quad core from the past 4 years will be quite a bit faster.

Raw performance of a midrange PC.

Current top of the line single AMD GPU 7970 is 4.3 teraflops by itself. 7990 dual GPU card is 7.4 teraflops by itself. I read somewhere that an update of the Radeon product line due this year would put their top end single GPU card to at least 6 teraflops. Which is believable.

So you get an idea with these examples.

[TheGamerDood]

"Axe99: Aye, but have to deal with a lack of optimization (because of the various hardware setups) and the huge tax on performance that running on Windows (if you're actually playing high-end games - there's very few high-end PC games on Linux or Mac) entails. Once you take into account the Windows resource 'tax', the PS4 specs actually compare pretty well with high-end PCs - far better than I expected, that's for sure."

[Cueil]

Try a 7750... that combined with the APU would put that around 1.8tflops

[evilhasitsway]

that it is so bet youll have to pay a decent amount for that beast which i do not mind doing.

[WarThunder]

@TobeyMaguireFan
U jelly? xfan? hehehehe

[mrbojingles]

Who are you even replying to?

[UnSelf]

me

[SilentNegotiator]

Anyone that's been around N4G for a while knows that is another account by the infamous user "Bungie", a great troll and/or a massive Xbox fanboy.

[Kevin ButIer]

@silent

Ohhh the irony... he can't use "Bungie" anymore... LOL

[HammadTheBeast]

lol PS4 has made you so mad. Also, check his comment history before defending him people.

[gunnerforlife]

can someone explain to me how good all this is compared to lets say pc specs, does it make ps3 as powerful as midrange PCs or lower then that?

Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon™ based
graphics engine

^ any good?

[CGI-Quality]

Nearly 2T.FLOPS for any console is amazing! I'm running a GTX 690 in my rig, which can manage 5.6T.FLOPS, but to even have a home system that can do 2 is going to work wonders for devs like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games (as we've seen with the new Killzone), Santa Monica, and Quantic Dream!

[chasegarcia]

pc equivalent:

GPU= ati 7850 (estimate by TFLOPS)
CPU= AMD FX-8120 (A good guess)
Memory=GDDR5 ---------The best part of the specs.

Specs overall are pretty good. It is going to be like another ps3 > Wii difference between PS4>Wiiu.

[--Onilink--]

single chip?? i thought they said they were on the same die?

[showtimefolks]

ok so is wiiu still considered a next gen system lol?

not a lot of great 3rd party support for nintendo again.

on topic:

its a day one purchase even if its $599. sony has a proven track record of delivering games and as a gamer above everything else i want games

[silvacrest]

personally i consider the wii U just current gen

[hivycox]

wii u is next gen...its silly to even ask that question...

un by the way = poeple around here doesn't know the true power the wii u has... its highly customized which is hard for analysts to determine the power of the console...

but due to the fact that the architecture allows the system to put out better graphics than last gen consoles and only need mere 40W to power it ..its certainly next gen...

The 8GB GDDR5 RAM inside the PS4 won't allow the system to sell under a minimum of 450$...at LEAST

[NBT91]

Wii U is a next gen system.
Nobody bought a WII U thinking "I am sure this will produce better graphics than the PS4!" if you STILL don't see the point of the WII U, you never will and as a gamer, I pity you. It must be a shame to only play games with mind blowing graphics while missing out on other great gaming experiences. Should we not play GOW: Ascension next month since it is releasing on PS3 which isn't as powerful as PS4?

Well I will be loving playing Metal Gear on my PS4 and round of SSB WII U thrown in for good measure, if people want to limit their selves to only the first because they feel they owe it to Sony then that is their problem.
Sony fans are like the posh slobs of gaming, thinking because they pay more and get better hardware that everything else simply isn't worth their time. I love PlayStation but dude, it's not all about graphics and hardware.

[showtimefolks]

NBT91

dude graphics and atmosphere makes a hue part of the game, and no wiiu isn't next gen its stuck somewhere in the middle and will be over shadowed by ms and sony when it comes to next gen consoles

releasing it a year before isn't gonna do it any favor, 3rd parties will be again on ps4 and next xbox. so yeah its great to have wiiu but only for nintendo exclusives.

and as a long time sony fan i am glad they always raise the bar something nintendo hasn't done in a long time.

call me a graphics whore but every game that comes out reviewers lavish it and say it looks amazing so what's wrong if i want my console experience to be stunning looking?

[Ryo-Hazuki]

8GB GDDR5 RAM......INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Statix]

8GB of GDDR5 RAM was a huge shocker for me. All leaked specs indicated 4GB (although Sony stated to developers they were aiming for more).

Hell, my recently-purchased AMD GPU "only" has 3GB, and I thought that was a lot!

[starchild]

Yeah, me too, Statix. I have an HD 7950 with 3GB of GDDR5.

The PS4 will be a very powerful console. Especially if it has good tools (as rumored) and devs can code more to the metal.

[Awesome_Gamer]

Amazing. I can't wait to get a PS4.

[hivycox]

its gonna cost ... and its gonna hurt a lot of people

[Cueil]

it's not just size... what is the bit width of the bus... is it 128bit bus a 256? It wont be hire that's were the expense really starts getting crazy

[Lior]

C'mon people the big news today is the nvidia Titan is being released today for 839 pounds

[akaakaaka]

PS4 8GB of GDDR5 QUANTUM LEAP > TITAN is like 6GD og GDDR3? lol old gen.. even GDDR5 is still inferior because the PS4 has 8gb of it!

[trancefreak]

I am happy for a few reasons 1: I love when new console tech comes out. 2 I will have amazing new games on this new console to play with and 3rd: Finally game engines will evolve further on PC and this new console tech. If that all makes sense cool.

[boldstarr]

You wan't a cheap console with same games every year, buy an xbox
You wan't a kiddie games with outdated hardware, buy an Wii U

You wan't a console that's future proof, lots of diff game genres to choose and play, and a premium hardware buy a PS4

[SignifiedSix]

For one, you can't even say anything about the next xbox as we know no actual facts about it. For all we know, it could be a more powerful system, or be on par with the ps4.

Microsoft has plenty of games being made for next generation. And many we dont even know about, like Fuse from crytek.

You're just another troll that plagues this website.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Unnecessary.

[dafegamer]

how does this guy have 5 bubbles?

[FlameBaitGod]

Oh they went with amd this time :O, nvidea must be pissed.

[Malice-Flare]

nVidia's fault, they priced themselves out of Xbox, they priced themselves out of PS4...

plus, they're so draconian when it comes to licensing tech that the PS3 Linux does not have hardware access to the RSX GPU, which inspired hackers to hack the PS3 in the name of 'homebrew'...

lol, Project Shield...

[pain777pas]

Sony just made the local news here in primetime and are doing a segment. Nice job their Sony!

[Zodiac]

They should have Layman's terms for computer talk.

[dirthurts]

Around the power of a radeon 7850 with a mid range processor.

[Cueil]

No... a APU with that... drop it down to a 7750... you have ~800GFLOP combined with the ~ 1tflop from CPU

[RememberThe357]

Haha your getting disagrees as if most people here know how to talk all that computer spec mumbo jumbo.

I completely agree with you, I'm not a computer guy so without any context these number are useless to me.

[nrvalleytime]

GDDR5 8GB

This makes me very happy.

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

im with you on that brotha

[Rainstorm81]

And devs happy...no excuses for Crytek

[Knight_Crawler]

And Bethesda :)

[mt]

that made blizzard happy as well.

[WarThunder]

And a 8 core AMD CPU! i have a 6 core, AMD is the best, Low price great performance.

[2pacalypsenow]

Not better than intel Heyoooooooooo!

[WarThunder]

@2pacalypsenow

AMD is Better than Intel
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

EDIT:
Before u Disagree watch the video first.

[Tsar4ever01]

Sony probably would've used Intel, but they probably charged way to much for their hardware specs, amd was far more reasonable which is the reason they went with them instead.

[chadwarden]

ABAP

[torchic]

Mr. Warden you must be extremely impressed with the new console.

when will your new viral video on YouTube release? :)

[--Onilink--]

it definitely does, that is some huge amount of RAM, especially that its DDR5.

Though my wallet is crying in the corner of the room right now thinking of much money i will have to spend this gen again to be able to play in all formats

[mushroomwig]

'802.11 b/g/n'

Hurray! My biggest problem with the PS3 was the wireless.

[NateCole]

Shit i was hoping for AC. Oh well still great.

[krisq]

Correct me if I'm wrong but only old phatties didn't support 'n' protocol. Slim and SuperSlim do have it.

[mushroomwig]

No, none of the PS3 models have 'n' protocal sadly.

[Ilovetheps5]

The specs are really good in my opinion. I am very happy with the specs and can't wait to see what games they create on the PS4.

[josephayal]

nice, but We Still don't know what the PS4 looks like

[buddymagoo]

personally, it could look like a shoebox and I would be happy.

[jeeves86]

Confirmed, PS3 will look like a shoebox.

I'd still buy it.

[karl]

i dont know why i cared so much till i read your comment..

[rainslacker]

I personally don't care what it looks like, but lets face it, Sony is really good at making awesome looking devices.

[Flyingdog670]

Well... Sony still needs things to show at E3, they already got the specs out of the way and the user interface. They are going to most likely show the console, reveal the price, give an official release date, give us more info Gaikai connectivity, and the best part... MORE GAMES!!!! I see sony stealing the show this E3. Microsoft is probably going to waste time talking about the specs and hardware, and talk about all those useless features we don't really care about. Nintendo will do really well, showing the new Mario, Smash Bros., and all the other good stuff. This E3 is going to be the best E3 in a while.

[jonboi24]

ps4 is the first invisible home console

[sashimi]

I thought that was the wiiU but it seems like the people below says its the ps2 lol

[stage88]

This is the console of 2013.

[majiebeast]

Okay so now the doomsayers cant say its download only.

[v0rt3x]

It was kind of strange to see the PS4 being announced, but not seeing the actual console.

[paradigmfellow]

The PS2 was like that back in 1999.

[torchic]

bodes well for the future, seeing as how awesome PS2 was :)

[Jobesy]

@ torchic, the Wiiu was like that as well. I don't really care though, the actual console doesn't NEED to be shown yet as long as we know the specs and see the new controller which was shown today.

[paradigmfellow]

The PS2 announcement was like that back in 1999.

[maniacmayhem]

Funny I said this in another article that Nintendo did the same thing and the internet instantly blew up saying that the controller was actually the new system.

[InTheLab]

Except N did it at E3 and not a small gathering...

[Rainstorm81]

I think It was the name and how it was unveiled....PS4 should leave no confusion..Wii-U could've been yet another Wii named peripheral

[N4g_null]

This is actually a Sony viao no really it even has the laptop touch pads and just wait on the price! This one might actually hurt.

It was nice seeing watch dogs again and why is infamous copying watchdogs? So far it's the same ol Sony with boring pretty games.

[Just_The_Truth]

They need to save something for E3. Plus didn't you realize there way no big reveal of the ps4. They don't want it to be the main focus right now but rather the software.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

Was anyone else even a little disappointed we didnt see the console?

[d0nT wOrrY]

E3 buddy, E3.

[silvacrest]

i didn't expect sony to show their entire load on day one

[KillrateOmega]

Not really. We pretty much got all we needed from the PS Event. Showing the console will mostly just give us insight into its aesthetic value.

I imagine that they're are either finalizing its design or keeping it from us so as to keep interest and excitement for the system at high levels by exploiting our natural curiosity on the subject. Doing so ensures that they'll make as big of a splash as possible come E3.

[jay2]

Wow, shocked no 5G wifi :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... new model in a couple of yrs then.

[dirthurts]

5G and Wifi are two totally different things.

[Just_The_Truth]

I think he meant a new vita with 5G/Wifi lol

[eldeladi]

he means wifi ac, which is 5th gen. it's not needed to stream games, n speeds are large enough.

[pody]

My computer is more powerful then this.

[BitbyDeath]

PC games are not using anything this powerful

[kevnb]

what makes you say that? Because other than the 8 gigs of ram, they certainly are in some games. When watching actual gameplay of killzone it felt like crysis 2 on pc, which contradicts what you say.
I dont think any devs are fully utilizing the ps4 at the moment, I dont even think they have any idea what to do with all that ram... Unless of course they plan on going 4k or some other really high res. There we can see systems use up to 3 gigs of ram, and cards like nvidias new titan have 6 gigs of memory for video ram...

Now I probably will get a ps4 at some point, I like sonys first party games after all. But I havent seen much to make me go out and get one just yet. The first year or two of a new console is usually pretty rough compared to what comes out later, so Ill just hold on to my gtx 460 and ps3 for now and see what happens.

[Count]

You're delusional.

[N4g_null]

Nope kev we already are getting screen tear at current resolutions. You are seeing the peak of the hardware now. Direct x 11 is pretty ain't it, even Capcom can do uncharted now.

Sony just made a laptop a console... It's going to have heat problems too unless it is liquid cooled. I expect ms to do the same now Sony is totally exposed ms is just going to throw money at their next system.

[Qrphe]

@kevnb

GTX 460?

The SE Demo was first showed running on a GTX 680. This same demo looked the same running on the PS4.

You need to upgrade to have a better point

[nypifisel]

@kevnb

If you actually knew anything about anything you'd know that what we saw today in the killzone demo is nothing we'd ever seen before, the technical achievement of rendering that world is astonishing and Crysis 2 doesn't even come close. I'm not saying it wasn't possible on PCs before, cause it was I'm just saying no one has crafted anything like it for PC before.

I was utterly impressed of the technical side of the demo, the 3D was really good and you need some prowess to render that kind of environment, and at least that's certainly not something any current gen console could manage.

Not to forget the Unreal 4 demo on the PS4 which bodes for a bright future (cause as you might or might not know, not even PC got any games built with that engine yet).. And I only play PC games, this excites me cause now finally we might start using some of the potential of the PC (at least the next year or two)

[BitbyDeath]

Note: I stated games, not PC's themselves.
Biggest game is Crysis 3 and PS4 exceeds it spec wise. eg. 8GB GDDR3 ram will get you max graphics on PC where as PS4 has 8GB GDDR5.

For the record, only 2GB of ram is req'd for Crysis 3 to work on minimal.

[taco_tom237]

we don't care...

[bluetoto]

Say it louder brother! NO ONE CARES!

[Shadow Flare]

70 million people won't have your computer. But they will have the ps4. That's sort of the point of a console. Get back to your home office

[tubers]

Not all of that 70 million people will have PS fan boy blinders that will only have a PS4 as a gaming platform.

[UnSelf]

good boy. heres a treat. get it boy!

[Nicolee]

your pc got more than 8 cores cpu ?

[Sangheili85]

Sure, why not? Google AMD FX-8350, its an 8 core CPU for only $199

Its nothing special, AMD has been making high core CPUs for a while now and they are dirt cheap, but thats for a reason. AMD's 8 core processor gets beat out by a quad core Intel i7.

I'm guessing that is why Sony went with AMD, seeing that their chips are very cheap compared to Intel.

[Nicolee]

AMD FX-8350 is 8 cores . my previous comment i asked about that if his PC has more than 8 cores.
as you don't know what speed of cpu of PS4 will be yet so your comment about i7 is not valid to compare at all.

[Sangheili85]

Fine, we aren't comparing speeds? What about a AMD Opteron 6234? That is a 12-core server processor for only $400.

[BDG]

and how much was that computer then??

[pody]

Wow.. So angry!

[orakle44]

Stupid comments get silly replies....

[Highlife]

Specs please. Games aren't optimized on pc they have to play nice with many different setups. On console one system you can optimize for that system and get better results with less power. Uncharted as an example.

[Count]

What are you talking about? PCs are capable of dishing out much better gfx than a console can. A console will have the same hardware for a multitude of years, but a PC can update its hardware every few months.

[Highlife]

I didn't say that PC's aren't capable of better graphics just say that consoles do a better job of optimizing what they have. They get more out of lesser specs.

[tubers]

That runs 720p at 30 fps? While PC games go beyond 4K more than a year ago?

[dirthurts]

Mine too Pody.
Still, it's a nice jump. Multiform games will look better now.
Guess I'll be saving up for that new video card.
I may pick up a PS4 if the price is right though.

[chad22hkd]

Don't be a fanboy, yeah its true you could spend 3,000 dollars on the (most) high powered pc you can buy now, and get roughly 10% more power then will be in the ps4.

On top of that, pc is always held back by console focused development, so this will be an upgrade for pc gamers as well.

Futher more, d bag dude pc elitist idiot man, in the world right now, and when the ps4 releases, maybe 4% of all pc gamers will have a rig that strong.

So.... No pc games will utilze all your expensive wasted POWAR!!!!!!BUT you can keep going and flashy you gimpy E penis to everyone,

All this coming from a playstation/pc fan,

my modest rig- nividia 660 ti overclocked,
intel i7 2600 @3.40 ghz
with 8 gigs of ram,

good day sir

@DomceM okay so then tell what pc you will build Mid range for 800 bucks that powerful.

[DomceM]

you know why pc guys are elitist? Because people like you are ignorant and annoying. You dont understand hardware so dont talk about it? 3k for 10% more power? stop pulling numbers out of your ass. PS4 is going to be equal to a mid range gaming pc price 7-800.

Stop imagining magic hardware in your plastic box. Its the same parts as PC uses except you cant upgrade.

Also i love PS and will be getting a PS4. I just hate stupid ppl spouting nonsense.

[1886afc]

4% really? anyone with a card above a hd7850 has a has a better gaming pc NOW!!!

[kewlkat007]

lol..... 3,000 dollars pc= 10% more power then will be in the ps4.

[kenshiro100]

...Grow up. Seriously.

[1886afc]

yea ps4 is a mid range gaming pc now, but when it releases it'll be bottom tier gaming pc at best.

[silvacrest]

does not matter, your PC wont even see most of the games shown anyway

[lovegames718]

Where are all the haters and bs talkers saying this system wouldnt be a big leap and only marginally better thn wiiu? Lol you guys are sick and for knowing it all are always wrong. These specs wipe the floor with competition. Not only tht gpu and cpu are powerfull

[SaxScrotumz]

Actually thinking the same thing, man. I am stoked!!

[--Onilink--]

i dont think anyone really said that it would only be marginally better than the WiiU.. most people have said that the leap wouldnt be that big (which this gen was freaking huge) and its true, there is definitely a big difference in power. But if you ask me, i still dont see any reason why most 3rd party games would not be released on the wii u. PS4(Ultra settings)/720(Ultra-High settings) / WiiU (Medium-Low settings). But nothing like this gen that they couldnt even use the same engine

[Root]

Actually I totaly forgot about the Wii U

Damn...Nintendo are in a bit of trouble aren't they. I bet they didn't expect this.

If the price is good then that's going to hurt Nintendo the most.

No way if third party devs going to support the Wii U when they can do better stuff on the PS4 and possibly the Nextbox

[silvacrest]

developers will go where the install base is, right now, the wii u is selling pretty poorly

[nikoado]

Blu Ray 6x,USB 3.0, and 8 GB GDDR5 Ram.

That all sounds great to me.

I wonder is it a solid state hdd though? Even if it isn't included, it'll probably support them anyway.

[pody]

Lets hope.

[--Onilink--]

haha i think you are pushing the boundaries of what Sony is able to put into the market with a purchaseable price if you want Solid State Drive.

With 8Gb DDR5 it really shouldnt make that much of a difference anyway, they can load most of the stuff on the RAM

[Zefros]

I wonder how big Hard drive we will get. Hoping for atleast 250 gigs what i really want is 500gb, that would be perfect. If not i hope we can remove the HDD and insert another one.

[ExCest]

It says built in hdd so the hopes of many (including mine) have been shattered.

[Hicken]

The PS3 has a built-in HDD. Not stopping anybody from swapping that thing out, is it?

[BitbyDeath]

And people thought this wouldn't be as powerful as a PC.

[iamgoatman]

Well you can't say it's "as powerful as a PC." as all PC's are different, but if we're comparing PS4 specs vs max potential PC specs of today, it's still way behind enthusiast level gaming PC's. That's just a fact, PC's will always be ahead of console, but they do come at a cost.

[tubers]

That's a dumb and vague statement at best.

[isyourhouseonfire]

This PS4 is a bomb already.. As a gamer, I'm scared.

[XIIIWARRIOR41]

Where is the console?

[Tsar4ever01]

The spec haven't been finalised yet, Final hardware specs with casing supposed to be sometime this summer. Most likey E32013

[Azurite]

6x BD, that's 216Mbit.
Quite a leap from the current 2x 72Mbit.

[mushroomwig]

Does that mean no more mandatory installs?

[Azurite]

Good point, maybe.

[Skate-AK]

Yeah probably just optional.

[GodGinrai]

whats crazy is how accurate semiaccurates reports were. This is pretty much the spec they have been saying for nearly a year now.

@pody..as is mine but I think this is good for a console.But the games are looking good. Aint that all that matters?

Drive club dont look that impressive but Im willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now. KZ, infamous and deep down look like they will be fun though. Im sold.

But why they being so shy about the looks you would think it was an ugly betty the way they are behaving! lol

[r21]

With that much memory, its hard not to be excited bout open world games. Oh and another game which I will hugely be looking forward to, LBP3!

[GodGinrai]

correction KZ looked amazing..them glass buildings...sheesh!

[orakle44]

Yep when i was watching the vid, i was like well now there just showing off. lol

[jagstar44]

i bet Nintendo are shitting themselves

[worldwidegaming]

people crying about Nintendo need to realize Nintendon't care!
Pokemon,monster hunter,Zelda,Mario etc They make money and will continue to be profitable in the future.
we all have real world data to show that Nintendo was well into the Black while Sony was wallowing in losses non stop.
Mario is shitting but he has a throne made of golden coins.
I am curious who is going to have good launch titles.

[NBT91]

I bet they aren't.

[Studio-YaMi]

A beast console,that's what it is,I really enjoyed the meeting seriously too awesome ! can't wait for E3 !!

[SkyCrawler]

Waiting for the usual "My pc is better because..." comments. Seriously PC elitists are acting like whining babies. Every time theres a positive comment about the PS4's capabilities I always see the usual PC elitists ready to throw down their specs. No one asked you. We know what the PC is capable of. They can't make games without them. It looks like they're the underdog crying for attention and its really annoying. At first it was Console fanboy vs. Console fan-boy. Now its PC fb's vs. console fb's. Either way, all of the fanboyism's annoying.

[duplissi]

my pc is better.

[kevnb]

well the titan gives 4.5 teraflops, so it wont be long before mainstream pcs are more powerful. The unified ram thing is interesting though. edit: Well just saying, the titan is expensive right now, but wait a year or two and then that kind of power is affordable. Im not talking about something that matches the ps4 in power, im talking about something that should be able to blow it away.

[mushroomwig]

The titan costs as much as a complete gaming set up with no real benefits to the average gamer.

[duplissi]

the titan is only for masochists.... it costs more than my whole pc, which btw can run everyting maxxed at 1080p

[Lucreto]

Official press relese of spec

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[nevin1]

any possible DS3 support?

[LackTrue4K]

i had read a week ago that yes....the DS3 will be supported

[volcane]

If it supports the Move controller, I assume it must support the DS3.

[volcane]

Seems I assumed wrong :(

http://www.egmnow.com/artic...

[ambientFLIER]

Hmm, this looks pretty good. Maybe this gen I will actually get into the Playstation brand. My PS3 is collecting dust. Mostly it's the controller...too small, too uncomfortable.

[SkyCrawler]

you do know there are alternative controllers of all different shapes and sizes out there, right?

[ambientFLIER]

I do. I also have a thing against PSN. It's a pain in the ass to use compared to xbl. Downloading updates takes forever, then they have to install for a while as well. Then the game itself has to get updated. I'm just not feeling the overall experience, even if it's free.

[Grandmaster-B]

The RAM is a bomb, but not the X86. The Cell is not much behind this CPU.
Sorry to say, but thats the truth.

Looked KZ4 16xRAM better than KZ3???

[nypifisel]

x86-64 is what all modern PCs uses today... How is that not only a good thing from every point of view?

The obvious advantage with using a PC architecture is with what ease developers will be able to code for it, it doesn't have any disadvantages over the Cell, and as already stated, every single PC in the world have been using this architecture for decades now and it's still standard in every tier. So what the heck do you mean?

[3GenGames]

The Cell is garbage for game calculations. It was designed for a server, and should have been able to give gaming an advantage in theory, but in practice, it never showed. Ever. The Cell was a failure. Failure for Sony, the programmers, everyone.

[stuntman_mike]

it aint gonna be cheap. :( I need to sell some stuff, like a kidney lol.

[barb_wire]

What kind of HDD and size included though? SSD? 1TB?

[Bobertt]

Not gonna be a SSD thats gonna just raise the price and not be worth it. They will have different models so the hardrive size will be probably chosen when they decide on a price.

[RevXM]

Hdd?
Is that really confirmed?
I havent seen the whole conference.got in just before the kz demo.

So no ssd then?
Though it was going to have that standard.

[Skate-AK]

SSD's aren't cost friendly.

[Reborn]

Now Sony... the price please.

[GodGinrai]

Im hoping they dont go over £400 here in the UK. Other wise ill wait till it is! but seriously sony..£400 max at launch! ill buy on day one , I promise!

[Bobertt]

The guys on IGN said there was a rumor that there will be $429 and $529 model.

[Chuck Norris]

Since it's using BD, I'm guessing it's BC as well.

[Skate-AK]

No it won't. It will stream PS3 games.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

M$ better change that 8gb DDR3 into 8gb DDR5 lol!

[Jek_Porkins]

Microsoft hasn't released any information, just like the rumored specs on the PS4 were wrong, why believe rumors on the next Xbox?

[JAMurida]

I just want to know if it's going to be SATA3 for the HDD.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

Everyone is talking specs, what impressed me most was sony's online network! Looks like live will FINALLY have BIG trouble!

[BladerunnerZX]

The PS4 is a very impressive machine.

The Infamous 3 demo looked great and Killzone 4 was good too.

Sony finally took notes from the game developers and are providing them will a powerful well rounded tool to create incredible next gen games with.

Once Battlefield 4 is released for PS4 I will sell a kidney to get one.

Where does this leave the Wii U ? I love Nintendo but I think its time for the Big N to becomes a third party developer / publisher now.

It looks like the Wii U is dead in the water now. Casuals dont care about the Wii U and Hardcore gamers are gearing up for PS4 now.

[Funky Town_TX]

Once that puppy is $250 and the PS4 and Xbox720 are still $400 plus people that don't care about GFX will eat up the Wii U.

[TABSF]

AMD APU Jaguar 8 cores (1.6GHz is what we've been hearing)
The GPU element according of AMD Jaguar is Southern Island and around 2TFLOP/s we're looking at Radeon HD 7850

So to draw comparison

Wii U
IBM Espresso Tri-Core 1.2GHz
AMD Latte GPU 320 Unified Shaders/ 16 TMUs/ 8 ROPs
2GB DDR3 RAM (1GB reserved for system (Bandwidth 12.8GB/s)

PS4
AMD Octo-Core 1.6GHz (rumoured)
AMD Radeon HD 1024 Unified Shaders/ 64 TMUs/ 32 ROPs (My speculation based on TFLOP/s)
8GB GDDR5 RAM (Bandwidth 175GB/s)

PC (Intel and Nvidia System)
Intel Core i7-3970X 3.5GHz/4GHz (Turbo) 6 Cores/12 Threads
Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan 2688 Unified Shaders/ 224 TMUs/ 48 ROPs
System RAM upto 64GB DDR3 51.2GB/s
Graphics RAM 6GB GDDR5 288.4GB/s

PC (AMD System)
AMD FX-8350 4GHz/4.2GHz (Turbo) 8 Cores
AMD Radeon HD 7990 4096 Unified Shaders/ 256 TMUs/ 64 ROPs
System RAM upto 32GB DDR3 21GB/s
Graphics RAM 6GB GDDR5 288GB/s

Based on the PS4 spec I'd be surprised if its under £400 or $600. Sony may have to sell it at a loss on this one.

[stragomccloud]

Very nice for a console. Guess the gap between the next gen consoles isn't that big after all. Save for the ram. Hopefully I'll be picking up a ps4 and a new 8000 series gpu for my pc at around the same time.

Anyway, I can't wait until this releases and we stay seeing developers do some cool things with that controller!

[Funky Town_TX]

The controller looks better. It looks like Sony learned from this gen. 8 gigs of RAM and it's not split. Lets see how much the OS take up. I hope the analog sticks are tighter and the online downloading from PSN is better (no download then install). I can't wait to see the console.

[sak500]

Bu..But teh cell? What happened to your favorite chip which was 360 killer?

Seriously this is just a lower side mid range PC with slightly better Memory config. NO BC other than streaming, if that's the case too bad for many of the sony followers who had hyped the Bluray games to kindom come.

Now lets see what MS shows at E3. BC should not be problem for them since their architecture has been similar to PC from teh start.

[BeAGamer]

go back to your cave troll

[DivineAssault]

might be online only too.. The rumors were true about this & the same sources claimed nx box requires internet to play lol..

[TemplarDante]

PS4... oh my....I'll take 3 !!

[GraveLord]

This is a fucking beast of a console. 8gig GDDR5. U mad Xbox?

[DivineAssault]

great system specs.. Perfect for a lower price point than PS3 was at launch.. Cant wait to see what they show at E3!

[bucky1965]

It will have the power of of an entry level laptop. I don't expect the power consumption to pass 100 watts. It will still struggle to do 1080p. Mobile OEM's not exactly top of the line.

[Jamaicangmr]

Sony is going for the jugular. F-ing love it.

[Clarence]

Winning!!!!

[M83_]

I'm not well up on the tech side of things, apologies, but can someone stack up these specs with the ones that were released by edge 2 weeks ago. IIRC, they stated a bulldozer CPU, 8GB RAM, GPU, etc.

People seemed to be very happy with them, as they are now, but are these specs better by comparison?

Thanks. I know you don't get something for nothing these days, so who ever helps out gets a free rimjob.

That's what all you crazy kids are after nowadays, right?

[jocomat9]

no..... just no.. .

[jalen247]

The specs are great.

[Kennytaur]

The specs where better than expected, 8GB of GDDR5!!!
But it's also important to remember that it's all connected in a much more efficient way than a PC, and that it's not running through Windows and such, resulting in a package that's greater than the sum of it's parts.

It's going to be super easy to code for and port to compared to the PS3, so all developers will be able to access much more of the potential.

[Rupee]

Should be a much better E3 for Sony this year. Probably a much better e3 for everyone. Last years was pretty dull.

[isyourhouseonfire]

I can't believe Sony held a conference for a SPEC SHEET. The console itself doesn't exist yet. OMG, is the blunder of blunders?

[Tzuno]

Make a move MS i can't wait until E3 at least tell us 50% of the specs.

[KillrateOmega]

That RAM, man :)

[PS3DOESIT4ME]

Am I the only one that's hurt cause they ditched Motorstorm?

[Silly gameAr]

Beast.

[spike]

If the PS4 gets GTA 5 at launch I will buy one day 1. If not I will wait a year.

[leogets]

there's a lot of confusion amongst you PC fan boys on which gfx cards are best and what they're capable of doing.. leads me to thinking none of you have the foggiest of clues what y'all talking about lol.. sad to see, n e ways ps4 is a power house and with naughty dog and guerilla games developing for it its a no brainer what gamers would prefer to play on..