How Square Enix Is Ruining Kingdom Hearts

GamingUnion.net: "One of the last things SquareSoft did before merging with Enix to become Square Enix was release Kingdom Hearts for the PlayStation 2 back in 2002. Kingdom Hearts mixed together characters from the Final Fantasy series and many different Disney worlds. The two different properties came together to tell the story of a young boy named Sora and his friends who lived with him on Destiny Islands. Over ten years later the Kingdom Heart series has spawned over seven game, but the reputation of the franchise has been sullied by Square Enix over the last decade."

[NukaCola]

KH has gotten too weird. I loved the first two but over the years it got repetitive and the story is getting so wrapped up in a mess of inception its hard to follow or even care. We shouldof had KH3 years ago. They really have strung out a story that didnt need to go that deep.

[bothebo]

I don't think Birth by Sleep killed it, I think it added to it because you knew where the game was going to go next. I think the 3DS installation killed because it made the story so much more complex than it needed to be.

[mephman]

And required people to buy yet another console in order to experience it...

[Root]

Yeah they added in Dream Eaters or something

Heartless...fair enough. Main enemy on the games

Nobodies from the remains of those who have lost their hearts to Darkness...ok I guess, I understand it. Good way to bring new enemies in

Dream Eaters....wtf

Seriously why couldn't they just do non canon side games to the series on the DS with new characters and keep prequels for the PSP/PSV.

When we get the chance to finally play on KH3 I won't have a bloody clue whats going on.

[SugarSoSweet]

I completely agree KH 1 and 2 were great perhaps even masterpieces but now KH has gotten so tangled in it's own confusing story I suspect that even the developers themselves don't know what's going on

[rezzah]

I don't own a 3DS so I watched DDD on youtube.

You'll learn how all games fit into the entire world as a whole at the end of DDD.

In fact you might even think that the all that you did in 1 and 2 was all pointless.

Overall Master X, forgot how to spell his name, is one of the most awesome villains of all time.

[user3915800]

Square-enix destroyed what squaresoft was the pinacle of japanese excitement and innovation. Now square-enix introduces nothing else but manure, they have pooped all over the major franchise. Square-enix suck, while squaresoft rock.

[mephman]

Yea, it's difficult to understand why they felt the need to make the story so convoluted. Also, it's rather annoying that they consider the handheld games "spin-offs", yet their story is pretty integral if you want to know what the heck is going on.

[Root]

Look at chain of memories before KH2

They said you didn't need to play it, it wasn't needed but it bloody was. I had to watch the cut scenes online and after that I appreciated and enjoyed KH2 much more. They didn't even explain it to you in KH2 about what happened in Chain of Memories it's like they expected to you buy it.

You end KH by traveling down a path at night in the middle of no where and in the next game you wake up in some sort of sleep pod in some castle.

and that was just one...ONE side game

We've had 1 DS games, one mobile game, one PSP game and a 3DS game which ending will be the start of KH3 apparently so that's 4 games in total before KH3. How some of us who aren't obsessed KH fans are going to understand is beyond me

[wishingW3L]

I remember beating the first KH game and then when I started with the second one I didn't play Chain of Memories first and I was like, I have no idea what is going on! Who are Organization 8, who is Roxas, why is Sora sleeping there? lol

Seriously, it blows my mind that this confusing mess still has fans left. =/

[Torchwood4]

It actually is sort of upsetting to see how many people will never play all of these awesome games and experience the great story.

[Canary]

Well, it's inevitable. The series, which was originally intended to be a simple trilogy, is just way too convoluted. The fact that it's spread across four different platforms doesn't help anything; and the fact that the two (and only) primary games of the franchise are not playable on any currently-produced console makes it even worse.

If the games ever do see a PSN release... assuming the PS4 has even limited b/c... I would expect to see a great many new gamers find their way to the series.

[Torchwood4]

As long as it is handled properly by Square Enix is what will make the difference. They really need to learn that you cant just throw a game out with a few ads on Disney channel to sell a game anymore and need to put some real time and thought into these things to make the fanbase grow again instead of slowly dwindle away.

[TenkoTAiLS]

I guess that's why they are releasing KH 1.5 HD Remix, with an eventual 2.5 following as hinted at by Nomura. That way all of the games will be available on one platform. Well 356/2 Days won't be playable, its just an HD movie, but at least you get the recap from the game in there. Plus its the Final Mix version of the first game which was previously only available in Japan, so there's some positives in this HD re-release.

[rezzah]

There is always youtube, if they can't learn to use it then it is their loss.

[animegamingnerd]

to many spins offs which made the story very confusing

[rezzah]

They are not spin-offs.

All link the story in a proper flow.

Miss these "spin-offs" and you barely know anything.

I suggest watch the cut-scenes on youtube.

[Megaton]

Loved the first two, haven't bothered with any of the portable junk. Stopped waiting for KH3.

[matrixman92]

the idea of "lets put our series on every platform in existence" is so stupid...people dont care anymore

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

The Next title is KH3. But If ppl havent played KH:358/2days, KH:BBS, and KH:3D U will be mindf*cked in KH3. Unless they have a really good recap. If u have played all the titles tho it isnt too hard to pull the story together.

I mean if they had none of the handheld titles where does KH2 go afterward? And u cant even call any of the handhelds spin offs really they all hold story relevance especially KH:BBS and KH3D(except for KHre:coded).

[truechainz]

Did they ever confirm that KH3 is the next game? It just kinda looked to me like there is room for more side games by the end of KH3D so I was wondering.

[Root]

"I mean if they had none of the handheld titles where does KH2 go afterward?"

They get a letter from Micket at the end of KH2 which would obviously set up a story for KH3

But no they wasted that on the 3DS story which had a crap ending.

<Spoilers>

Sora dosen't even become a Keyblade Master...Rikku does despite all the good things Sora did, saving both worlds twice. Rikku just fell into darkness a bunch of times

[rezzah]

The ending didn't suck, it explained everything and it brought all the games together.

Spoilers

Sora was never meant to use the KeyBlade...Riku fell into the darkness so Sora was the next available person to use it. During the trails Riku ended up having to save Sora, so Sora failed his test.

This does not mean Sora is incapable of being a Master.

[coolasj]

Kingdom Hearts 3 is there trump card if they ever are about to severely go out of business. The company can easily keep afloat for the 3 years in would be in development. That one game would buy them an extra year or two or more go get there stuff together.

[solidjun5]

To be honest, the title should be "How Square is ruining just about everything they own."

[CatXFlash]

That is mess up the way they are treating KH players... at least FF players get games even do they are not the games we ask for >.> ..but yeah give KH players a console game!!

[-Gespenst-]

The reason the story has gotten so complicated is a reflection of the games concepts. The series is basically a giant metaphysical system. I mean, it's not like some sort of dense, philosophical treatise, it's delivered in a really digestible and accessable way. If you can't hack it just quit. I'll admit though it's a nuisance that so many of them are on different platforms. You can't help but wonder whether they were bribed or something to bring titles to the Gba, the ds, the 3ds and the PSP... who knows though.

3D was excellent. The level design was awesome (at long last) and the game was just as fun as the rest, and Birth by Sleep was obviously great.

[wishingW3L]

they already ruined it when they made so many spin-offs that are relevant to the main story-line on so many different systems.

[Roper316]

Well what doesn't SE ruin this gen? They are a mere shell of their former glory days imho.

Hopefully they can bounce back next gen but as long as their focus is on westernizing everything & Wada leading the way it is very doubtful.

[JAPS3KHLBP14]

Do people understand that these spin-offs have added a lot to the story, I know the KH story is confusing but in my opinion its better now then before they had all these spin-offs i suggest reading this http://www.gamexplain.com/a... and the other parts