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Developer: Gearbox lied to SEGA, 2K over Colonial Marines

It's fair to say the Aliens: Colonial Marines story has been a fascinating one. From the years of hype, to the negative reviews, to the later confusion over who actually developed the game, there's a lot of mystery and controversy afoot. Here's Destructoid to add a little more.

We've recently been chatting with a developer who -- as you might have guessed -- wishes to remain anonymous. Under this condition, he agreed to let us publish the things he's witnessed personally and learned from fellow project members in the time he spent working on Colonial Marines.

Our man was involved with the game only briefly, between 2007 and 2008, but in just that short time he had some interesting reading for us. If his words are indeed to be believed, they further fuel the suggestion that Colonial Marines was increasingly sidelined for more "important" projects.

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rodiabloalmeida4076d ago

Not so hard to tell, considering the actual results.

nrvalleytime4076d ago

Sad, but true. This thing crashed harder than every android in the Alien series.

zerocrossing4076d ago

This whole thing looks bad for all concerned, If the rumours are to be believed Sega got screwed over pretty bad too, wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit happening against Gearbox.

SilentNegotiator4076d ago

If SEGA cares anything about what they're putting money into, they would have checked on the game.

Both SEGA and Gearbox deserve to feel the pain of this one.

wallis4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

You're wrong.

Sega don't have to care. Sega aren't artists they're publishers and they're there to make money. These are accountants, lawyers etc. who are waking up and going to work to generate an income for themselves and the economy. They signed a contract with gearbox - their side of the bargain is to provide marketing and some funding and gearbox's side of the bargain is to make a game.

I know this is hard for a lot of gamers to understand but this is a business. Sega signed a God damned contract with gearbox to design the game. Do you know what a contract is? It isn't a pinky promise. These guys should be able to trust a multi-million dollar game development company (who've just FINISHED a title) to actually make the damn game they've been signed to make. Sega should not have to expect such a legally binding process to be bypassed and they deserve to sue gearbox into the God damned ground.

I lost forty bucks over this affair and I'm annoyed... if I lost the sort of money Sega has lost on this I would beat Randy Pitchford to death while screaming "NERVE SOFTWARE? THE GUYS WHO MADE THE DOOM 3 EXPANSION PACK!? YOU DIDN'T THINK WE'D NOTICE!?? REALLY!??"

SilentNegotiator4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

What part of caring about WHAT THEY PUT THEIR MONEY INTO didn't you understand? If they let their contracted developers put out garbage, they lose money.

***YOU*** don't understand business if you think SEGA should just "trust" developers to make good products every time with good direction. Any developer can make a crap game and give false expectations and still fulfill their contract.

kungfuian4076d ago

when this game's sales tank, as they should, wouldn't be surprised to see some type of legal action against them from sega.

BanBrother4076d ago

Oh definitely. This guy said that when Gearbox first started working on it in 2007, the development team for Aliens: CM kept getting smaller and smaller, as they were pushed over to help with Borderlands 1, WHILST Gearbox still was collecting money from SEGA, and lying about the actual number of people on the job.

If SEGA can prove this, which I'm sure they will be able to with a lot of employees coming forward, this will be a large lawsuit against Gearbox.

Funny, this whole time, even before Borderlands 1, Gearbox were being shifty. This is another Lance Armstrong fall from grace kind of thing. I am not angry, I am just disappointed and sad. Gearbox have tainted their image, and SEGA was treated unfairly.

We can only imagine when the inevitable lawsuit comes forward.

MrWonderful4076d ago

someone should file a class action lawsuit

NYC_Gamer4076d ago

It's sad how Gearbox lied and then tricked hardcore fans into buying some mediocre piece of garbage

WeskerChildReborned4076d ago

And then saying "we needed to sell it", if they knew the game was shit they should have scraped it instead of lying to their consumers and making Aliens Colonial Marines into a cashgrab.

Kingscorpion19814076d ago

Its not even Mediocre its worse.

ZombieNinjaPanda4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

While the game isn't good by any means, it's not as terrible as you people are making it out to be and it is playable. But I agree they need to face the repercussions.

MysticStrummer4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Hell just the fact that it's a movie license game makes it better than all the whiners say. All the talk about lawsuits is really hilarious. Here's a tip... how about you don't base your purchase decision on a really old demo, real or not? I bought the game based on a livestream I saw a week before release, and I like it just fine. I knew exactly what I was getting and I'm not letdown at all. It could and should have been better after all this time, but it's fun to shoot aliens ( and to play as one online ) so I'll enjoy that and hopefully someone will eventually do the license justice. Expectations kill fun.

Its9000orMore4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

@MysticStrummer The "gameplay" demo was shown only a few months ago in October. It contained Randy Pitchford spewing out a lot of BS showing off graphics and gameplay that was misleading and not representative in the least of the final product.

"...and I like it just fine. I knew exactly what I was getting and I'm not letdown at all."

You must have extremely low standards. If you really aren't phased by developers lying to and misleading consumers, then that really shows your true character.

"Expectations kill fun."

Developers that lie to consumers and put out a crappy game kill fun.

theWB274076d ago

Will Gearbox make it to next gen? Severely tainted image..

RememberThe3574076d ago

This is really messed up if true but really most people wont know anything about this and since Boarderlands is established and frankly, hella fun, it'll probably do fine.

Hardscore fans or people that were burned by Colonial Marines might still be pissed but when your talking about a game that movies millions of units a couple hundred people aren't really that important.

3-4-54076d ago

They just sealed their fate.

New Gaming Generation is the best / easiest time for new companies to get in the mix and thus make liars like Gearbox obsolete.

theWB274076d ago

IKR...I didn't even care for Borderlands but still don't like to see the potential for this to happen. People losing jobs over bad PR...it would have been so much more respectable if he layed low before release knowing it wasnt going to be very good.

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Gearbox confirms layoffs following sale by Embracer

Gearbox Entertainment has confirmed layoffs at the company, following the announcement of its sale by Embracer.

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UltimateOwnage15d ago

I’m glad Embracer is selling them. I hope someone other than MS buys them and frees them up to make great games.

Knightofelemia15d ago

Says right in the article Take Two bought Gearbox off of Embracer.

Sgt_Slaughter15d ago

Reading the article is hard for most people it seems

Knightofelemia14d ago

@Sgt Slaughter

I just like how when a studio automatically goes up for sale. People automatically think Microsoft is just going to jump on it like a fat kit eating a cake.

SimpleSlave15d ago

I mean, having multiple CEOs is a redundancy, soooo... Good luck Randy!!!

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Layoffs Hit Gearbox Staff Hours After Embracer Sale

Less than a day after the news that Take-Two Interactive would acquire Borderlands developer Gearbox Entertainment from the embattled Embracer Group, layoffs have already begun. In the hours since former Gearbox employees were made redundant, they've taken to Twitter, and while the total number of staff impacted remains hard to determine, it sounds significant.

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Knightofelemia21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I am glad to see Gearbox under Take Two. But lay offs I am not surprised they aren't the only company cutting staff and they won't be the last. And I have a feeling the Borderlands movie honestly will tank when it comes out. The cast is just wow a complete mess Lilith is too old Roland is to small and scrawny. They are missing Brick and Mordecai and I don't think Tiny Tina will be as bat shit nuts as she is in the games.

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Inverno20d ago

The movie will definitely flop. It has all the usual actors that have casted in all these video game movie adaptations. Whenever I see Kevin Hart or The Rock or Jack Black i just know it's a cash grab. More so when it's all three together. (The Rock isn't in it)

Juancho5120d ago

When you see actors like that in a movie you can expect it to be bad, i definitely do. They have good chemistry but the movie doesnt shine because it just banks on their presence and people going to see them.

Inverno20d ago

Pfft, literally said yesterday how it must be nerve wracking for the devs and then this shite. People aren't looking to get fired, and these companies don't care in the slightest.

Andrew33620d ago

People aren't looking to get fired. Good insight.

kaos8920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Inflation post 1/20/2020 is really causing pain to everyone. The cherry on top was companies waiting post 11/8/2022 to start doing layoffs. Hmm, I wonder why they waited past that date... Staring with Google in January 2023 and everyone following suit there after.

anast20d ago

Companies that over-hire should be fined heavily and the CEO loses his/her bonus during layoffs, and that money can go to the workers that they laid off.

Leeroyw20d ago

There's a lot going on in this post that needs further scrutiny.

anast19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

It's a game forum. But you are free to chose one and argue it.

Shiore2u20d ago

I hope Pitchford got let go for the sake of employee safty. The man is a walking grease fire waiting to happen.

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Embracer Group Looks to Sell Video Game Studio Gearbox

The game developer is best known for Borderlands, which has generated more than $1 billion in revenue

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persona4chie219d ago

Hey n4g, can we maybe not allow articles where you can only read 3% of it before hitting the pay wall?

Snookies12219d ago

The disagrees were from people that already paid, haha.

neutralgamer1992219d ago

They just bought them not long ago. This is absurd. Embracer owns so many gaming studios and IP’s. They just don’t know to manage them right TBH

Give us saints row 1-2 proper HD remaster (3-5 million in sales confirmed as long as no major bugs)

Focus on AA games that cost less than 40 million go develop while funding 2-3 major AAA titles. Those smaller titles should aim for 8/10 type games with focus on fun and be released within 2 years while bigger games are given 3-5 years

Sniperwithacause219d ago

You got it all figured out!
Sounds like you need to send over your resume to corporate office! Lol
All jokes aside. They need to figure it out quickly.

neutralgamer1992219d ago (Edited 219d ago )

Lol no they need suits and number crunchers haha

What use to be available to us as bonus content for free by unlocking or cheat codes is now micro transactions

Gaming is generating so much money that we have so much soulless content simply for money grabs

Ristul218d ago

Embracer's problem is that they have spent too much on acquisitions of game studios and when they did, interest rates were lower when compared to today. With higher interest rates on their loans, they have to sell studios to raise capital.

crazyCoconuts219d ago

Sounds like a multi-million dollar "oops"

BrainSyphoned219d ago

If they would have bought Bethesda their stock would have crashed and sunk the company a couple days ago.

1Victor219d ago (Edited 219d ago )

I’ll be the jerk that says it
Get’m Microsoft get’m, or Sony 🤷🏿

Outside_ofthe_Box219d ago

Hopefully Microsoft saves us and buys them. Gaming has never been better because of them!

shinoff2183219d ago

If your not a borderlands fan what have they made good

dumahim219d ago

@shinoff2183
Brothers in Arms series.

1Victor219d ago (Edited 219d ago )

Thank you your disagrees makes me feel good to know you don’t think I’m a jerk 🤣

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