270°

5 Reasons Why YOU Should Be Excited for Sony's Meeting

Love Sony or hate them, their meeting which is set to take place on February 20th @ 6 PM EST/3 PM PST has large implications on the gaming market. Here are five reasons why YOU should be excited and/or intrigued for Sony's meeting.

GalacticEmpire4080d ago

Next gen is here and Sony are making all the noise. Come on MS get your finger out and give us something to get excited about. It seems like they're just giving Sony all the buzz.

LOGICWINS4080d ago

Microsoft doesn't have to do anything until they damn well please. Just like Sony. In fact now they have the advantage of knowing what their up against after the 20th.

dgonza404080d ago

Even if they do know, they can't change much hardware wise unless they plan on delaying the release or announcement which wold do more harm than good.

BanBrother4080d ago

Logic

At MOST, MS could change some of the software/features of their console. In no way would they be able to change their hardware, not unless they want a mid-year at the earliest release.

So, Sony have nothing to fear. Also, I won both the PS3 and Xbox 360. Even some of my friends on Xbox are getting sick to death of MS. They are very ready to jump ship next-gen, and some have moved onto PS3.

I like many games on PS3 and Xbox, but the fact is there are not enough unique experiences on the Xbox, no way. I'm not trolling, as I said, own both.

I just hope that people will open their eyes. All you have to do is ask yourself this;
Do you want a Kinect and 'app' oriented console, or do you want a console for the core? Easy. Just ask yourself that. At the end of the day, it is YOUR hundreds of dollars being used to purchase either console.

guitarded774080d ago

I agree, MS doesn't have to make a move on next gen until they want, but they could at least make a move for this gen while we wait. MS is too quiet... at least give us something to enjoy while we wait. Sure, there's Gears Judgement, but that's about it... and it's a spin-off from the main series at that, focusing on support characters.

LOGICWINS4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

What about features, exclusives, online integration, value etc.? There are many other ways besides hardware changes that Microsoft can make to improve upon whatever Sony does on the 20th...if they CHOOSE to that is. Hardware isn't the end all be all of a consoles success(hence the Wii).

"I just hope that people will open their eyes. All you have to do is ask yourself this;
Do you want a Kinect and 'app' oriented console, or do you want a console for the core?"

I don't...but that doesn't mean other people feel the same way.

Kinect sales are at 24 million. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean that there isn't an audience for it out there.

GalacticEmpire4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

I never said they HAD to do anything I just thought that, with Sony hogging the limelight and all the buzz around PS4, MS might want to grab a piece of the action. Seems to me like they're just twidling their thumbs and hoping people don't get too caught up in the excitement.

Is it so surprising to expect something from MS? These are the guys who sailed a giant barge ad past the PS3 launch.

Edit: @below

"You make it sound like some L.A Blood/Crip gang war where both parties MUST immediately react to every grievance the other side has imposed lol."

I'm British and have absolutely no idea what you're on about here :S

Only fanboys would scream "they are just copying or following" or whatever, the fact is MS have a good opportunity to steal some thunder and they're letting it pass.

LOGICWINS4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

"Seems to me like they're just twidling their thumbs and hoping people don't get too caught up in the excitement."

Or maybe their refusing to react because they don't want to put across that everything they do is a counter move against Sony. Thats called being a follower. Why would Microsoft put themselves in that position? They'd look stupid.

You make it sound like some L.A Blood/Crip gang war where both parties MUST immediately react to every grievance the other side has imposed lol.

MikeMyers4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

Microsoft might not change much in the way of design of the hardware but they can change the way they market it. You can bet they are going to be looking closely to what Sony shows on the 20th just like how both Sony and Microsoft looked closely at what the Wii U was going to be and what Nintendo plans on doing going forward.

Some people on here may disagree but all 3 of them actually respect each other. The problem is many of us get caught up in the daily drama from all the headlines, misquotes and interviews taken out of context. Of course some people like to cheer on their team like a sports fan. That's fine but some take it too far.

I'm always excited whenever we get to see new hardware, regardless of who's putting it out there. I like to see them push each other and innovate and come out with new ideas.

guitarded774080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

@ MikeMyers

If by "respect" you mean the relationship a zebra and a lion have, I agree. They definitely observe each other, but even more so, they observe how the market responds to one another.

This can have a negative effect on us gamers when sales trends point toward less core AAA and more casual fluff. I agree with everything you said, and I cannot stand gamers who are more about brand loyalty than gaming in general.

Regardless of what Sony's long term plan is with the PS4, the 20th will be focused on the core gamer because Sony knows that is the early adopter market. We saw Nintendo attempt to focus on the core market when introducing the Wii U, because they know the same thing.

Sony will also show their ease of accessibility by (rumor) moving to an x86 architecture (even though the cell is a better architecture... it just hasn't had the time the x86 has had to build a library of instructions).

For MS, we can pretty much figure the NeXBOX will also have an x86 architecture, so it should get the same third party support as PS4 and vice/versa. So what is going to distinguish them from each other will be marketing, exclusives and features. And each will be watching the other seeing what needs to be done next.

jocomat94080d ago

i dont think there gonna release the tech specs on the 20th. atleast i wouldn't just yet.

MikeMyers4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

guitarded77,

You brought up something interesting. Do you (not you but Sony and also when Microsoft unveils the next Xbox) market the PS4 to the people you already know will buy the machine or do you try to market it to a broader audience as well? We both know gaming is changing but that doesn't mean we won't still see big games like God of War on the PS4.

Perception is key and so is marketing. Sony could have the best tablet on the market but to try and get consumers to buy it in a world dominated by Apple is a tough go. This is why first impressions of the PS4 might go a long ways.

I'm a little concerned at todays market with the Wii U not selling very well or the Vita. So a good launch is very important. There are games on so many devices now that it's hard to know what the future lies and where the market will go. These systems they make cost lots of money from the ground up in research and development to retail outlets and I'm not sure if the old way of doing business will stand up as well as it used to. What I do know is a lot is riding on the success of the PS4 for Sony as the company tries move forward.

cannon88004080d ago

If MS decides to change the hardware in the last minute and not do any longevity tests to see if it's good, they might as well sell their console as a conventional oven or maybe a heater. That way you could play halo 5 and heat up some cheese sticks at the same time! :D

BullyMangler4080d ago

thats very sad if you think about it. Whats the advantage of waiting for others to go first?

we are supposed to be unique, not copy cats .

+ Show (9) more repliesLast reply 4080d ago
Milesprowers4080d ago ShowReplies(3)
-Falaut-4080d ago

A little bird told me there are other events planned for next week that journalists attending are not allowed to talk about. I have a feeling that these might be from the MS camp.

lolwithtim4080d ago

Totally agree. It's interesting that Sony has all the buzz with rumours and the 20th reveal. Just makes me think will Microsoft just sit there or try to ninja their way in with an announcement around the same time.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 4080d ago
DigitalSmoke4080d ago

Need no reasons, just look at how PS3's blowing everything out of the water at this point.

Same momentum and on the PS4 and nothing can compete within the core gamer scene.

JohnnyAkiba4080d ago

I need to freeze myself just like Eric Cartman . xD

clrlite4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

Or build a time machine.

ApolloTheBoss4080d ago

FEB. 19th will be the longest day ever.

BanBrother4080d ago

Agreed. I'm supposed to be picking up a refrigerator that day, but CBF. I know I'll be yelled at, but hey, these announcements come once every many years.

You know how people say; "*grabs popcorn*"?
Well, I just loaded up on butter and Caramel popcorn yesterday lol. Looks like I will be bringing it.

lolwithtim4080d ago

For me the reveal is late in the evening. the 19th won't be that bad, the majority of the 20th on the other hand ...

Show all comments (44)
280°

Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

Read Full Story >>
techraptor.net
ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6415d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long15d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197215d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 14d ago
DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer15d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 14d ago
Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197215d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218315d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

Show all comments (43)
80°

Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii21d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

280°

Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

Read Full Story >>
gamesindustry.biz
S2Killinit23d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

22d ago
Profchaos23d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

Show all comments (13)