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Dev: Wii U may do ‘even better’ than Wii

Amidst a wasteland of negativity and scepticism, a developer spurs our hopes, claiming that the Wii U could outsell the Wii.
On the Wii U, Giants Software’s Mark Schwegler says, “There’s a lot of potential that’s not tapped yet, if it is and if it will be then I think it could be more popular than the Wii because it’s something more.”

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jay24085d ago

Nah. I doubt it................

darthv724085d ago

on how you view it.

From the games POV it already does wii games better than the wii. That is related to upscaling and convenience of the system overall.

As far as untapped potential, that has been a very common thing even since the days of the 2600. Generally, game development improves within a platform over time.

this is primarily due to experience with the hardware and knowing where certain limitations exist. finding creative ways around those and delivering an optimized product as a result.

We have seen it on the NES, Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2 and we are seeing it on the PS3 and 360. Even the wii received some better made games slightly before the release of the wii-u.

Now patience is a tough thing to have but its worth it if the end result delivers. I have been entertained by many a late bloomer game in the various console generations that really impresses me. Already calling the wii-u a failure is not warranted just as those calling the ps3 a failure was not warranted. Or any platform a failure for that matter.

It just takes time and good creative development to get the best out of something. Trouble is, too many companies are just looking to do the quick cash in on any investment instead of really putting in the teamwork to make a quality product. Some...not all (just to clarify).

those that do put in the effort, you can tell they have a passion for creating games.

deafdani4085d ago

Post that says "I doubt it" > 32 agrees, 7 disagrees.

Well elaborated, well thought reply with absolutely zero fanboyish nonsense behind it, grounded on common sense and optimism > 2 agrees, 10 disagrees. Sigh.

People must really hate to read. Bubble up for intelligent comment.

BakedGoods4085d ago (Edited 4085d ago )

You're forgetting a couple things.

DINNER PLATE: the controller. imagine holding this beast during a 4-hour skyrim sesh---AINT GONNA HAPPEN. touch controls won't help a damn. I'm sorry, but if you consider absolute reaction time, looking at my damn controller SUBTRACTS FROM THAT. pretty colors and flashing screen notwithstanding.

ONLINE: jesus christ. When is Nintendo going to swallow their pride and admit THEY DONT GET ONLINE. i was born and raised Nintendo; I owe them my childhood, but seriously, MS has been doing this RIGHT for two generations, Sony's playing the same tune. Nintendo is lagging behind.

GAMES: Make or break. Nintendo is brilliant at first party, but considering previous points (1) and (2), why the #@%^ would a dev choose the Wii-U if not to make a half-assed port? Beyond that, why would I even choose a Wii-U multiplat game over a PS4 or Xbox-whatever?! Not a damn reason.

Nintendo: you're breaking my heart. Figure it out soon, or this will be the first gen I won't throw you a dime.

Benjaminkno4085d ago

Honestly, Nintendo would be lucky to see WiiU do even "half" as good as Wii did.

I would argue that Nintendo would be more successful if they could get third party game sales to see an improvement over Wii.

I can see why Nintendo isn't taken seriously anymore, much to their competitors avail.

AJBACK2FRAG4085d ago

Baked Goods, Sorry I one hudred per cent disagree. I think the WiiU is customed designed for a Skyrim like experience navigating menus with a touch screen would stream line the endless menus and the Skyward Sword contols would fit this game in my opinion perfectly. Onlline. Nintendo's online service is incredible now chatting and video conferencing is cool but I've seen the most amazing art in those little rectangles and get this everybody's very cool and extremely nice. Example I'm a huge Nintendo fanman and this person had drawn a really cool Nintendo themed piece of artwork and I was like that's a really cool piece of art and I went on to say I'm a big fan of the big N and I own all their home consoles and they said they did to and I was like oh have you ever heard of Gumpei Yokoi? They just drew a set of eyes and a huge smile and It was very intense It was very weird to find someone that liked Nintendo as much as me just cause I like their art. Do you own a WiiU? Have you utilized Miiverse? If you have you'd realize Nintendo has beat Microsoft at the one thing their good at. Miiverse>Xbox Live. You'd know that if you used it. Nintendo is the best softare developer in the world. That's not opinion that's common knowledge. Nintend creates nigh indestructible hardware. Fact. Nintendo offers the best customer service of any company. That's why they're number one.
See you at e3 kids!

ZombieNinjaPanda4085d ago

And to think Ps3 fanboys bitch about others "trolling" Sony/Ps3 news. Look at the first comment here.

Hicken4085d ago (Edited 4085d ago )

Hardly trolling. Given the Wii U's current situation- not to say that it won't change- having it outsell its predecessor doesn't sound very likely.

The system had a great launch, but it's moving very slowly now. Hopefully, that'll pick up as upcoming games are released, but as it currently stands, the Wii U isn't going to put up Wii numbers.

If you're being objective- and your comment says you'd rather try and bash others than do so- then jay's comment is sensible.

IF.

Edit: To be fair, he SHOULD have had more content to his comment, but that doesn't stop the comment itself from being fairly reasonable... which is rather the opposite of trolling.

rainslacker4085d ago (Edited 4085d ago )

Thank you for that insightful analysis, jay

Mounce4084d ago

Basically what I was going to say, but with more laughter. Like: BAAHAHAHAHA.....Yea okay there. The only way they'd get success even financially with Wii U? Is if they slash the price like they did with 3DS, but Nintendo is in desperate need for actual profit. So if by them pumping out 1st party software doesn't remedy their problems....Well, Nintendos going to be a BIT in trouble.

3DS wasn't a hit at launch and Wii U wasn't too great in comparison itself, 3DS needed a giant slash before it started selling and at this point? 3DS doesn't give Nintendo profit per sale and I'm unsure about Wii U, all I know is the only way for them to sell more is to slash the price or introduce a better software lineup. If they slash the price it will promote higher sales, but less profit at the end of the day.

Nintendo better think of something fast, beyond simply pumping out more Zelda/Mario games.

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PopRocks3594085d ago

Too early to tell obviously. 3DS didn't start off well, and now it's selling faster than its predecessor. So who knows?

TruthbeTold4085d ago

Already over 30 million sold, when just a little over a year ago haters had it dead/doomed, and shareholders wanted Iwata's head. Who knows for sure what will happen with the Wii U, but I'd like to think that come mid 2014 or so, we'll once again be laughing at the negativity and hate of this time period.

PopRocks3594085d ago

Who knows. There are some people who insist that the Wii U is weaker than/on par with the 360/PS3 despite the recent development with Criterion's port of Need for Speed on the Wii U.

At this point I'm pretty certain those who are bias against Nintendo are going to remain so no matter what the hell they do.

delboy4085d ago

Power will be with Sony and MS, but price will be on WiiU side.
So in 2014,every console will have great games, but the cheapest will sell the most.
So don't be surprised if wiiu sells beyond everyone's expectations.

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wiiulee4085d ago

honestly if nintendo can get their acts together and straighten things and bring out the games...wiiu can end up selling more then wii....wiiu is a unique system with great possibilities and the gamepad controller fits casual and hardcore and is the future controller, you already see sony copying it on a smaller scale..nintendo need to hurry and release the big games and more games and collaborations announcements and get better commercials pointing out the uniqueness of wiiu.

-IronMan-4085d ago

ummm no someone is delusional.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10110d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref9d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde9d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19729d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21839d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos9d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai10d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref9d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan9d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197210d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref9d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde9d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19729d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19729d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier9d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto9d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21839d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts9d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts8d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel16d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8816d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing15d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS15d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder15d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218315d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.