Nintendo’s Lack of Interest From Gamers Force Them to Make More Bad Decisions

Today, some huge announcements were made by Nintendo. Announcements of new games were the center of attention as this is exactly what Wii U owners have been waiting for… or is it? The Wii U has done fair in sales for sure but has left players on the unhappy side in terms of games. Gamers want to love the Wii U but there is something keeping them from that feeling. When new announcements were made by Nintendo earlier today most players were alert and ready to hear exactly what they were going to say. There was an excitement in the air as we awaited big announcements from the company.

[TheSuperior]

Nintendo is seriously starting to mean nothing to me. Why do they even bother to announce new things anymore? lets continue to do the same thing but sort of change the color of the main guys hat but only somtimes cuz Luigi's dreaming about his brother... smooth :/

[NYC_Gamer]

Nintendo just doesn't build new franchises instead they continue with more spin-offs

[BullyMangler]

ha ha haaa . everyone reLax . this aint even E3 . ha ha haaa . it feels great to see how many people attack Nintendo Direct feeds like it was . hoh hohh !!

[Yodagamer]

They just announce 2 new games from new ips coming to the eshop. The wonderful 101 is another, if they own the rights to it. Pushmo/crashmo, sakura samuri, fluidity, xenoblade and the last story are also pretty recent.

[MikeMyers]

This article complains about the lack of Wii U announcements even though it was already known this would be more about the 3DS.

[chadboban]

Nintendo, does make new franchises. They just aren't marketed as well as games like Zelda and Mario. Hence why a lot of people assume that's all they do. It's kinda Nintendo's fault they're perceived that way to be honest and it's a shame.

People don't acknowledge games like Xenoblade and The Last Story as the Nintendo owned IPs they are because they don't seem like "something that Nintendo would do".

[WiiUsauce]

lol Nintendo doesn't put out new franchises? So Pushmo isn't a new franchise? Rhythm Heaven, Dillon's Rolling Western, Sakurai Samurai, Ketzal's Corridors, Pandora's Tower, aren't all new franchises? these are just very recent games and they all star brand new characters and worlds.

There's even more original stuff they put out on Wii and DS like Hotel Dusk, Elite Beat Agents, Endless Ocean, and Excite Bots just to name a few.

[FriedGoat]

@WiiUsauce

It's interesting that such a big fan of Nintendo has no idea about their IPS, Rhythm Heaven Fever is not a new IP this is the third in the series. The original (rhythm tengoku) being on the GBA, the second on the DS and the third being on the Wii.

This is actually one of the only remaining series that I like on Nintendo consoles, probably because it was created by the WarioWare team. Mind you, they haven't made a good warioware game jam packed with content since Twisted on the GBA - back when Nintendo were all about the games.

[Buff1044]

Those spin-offs sell in the millions and have a healthy shelf life long term. Can't say the same for a lot of games from Sony/Microsoft/Third Parties.

[Kurt Russell]

I've got no problem with spin offs and Mario based games as they are always fun and of high quality. What I have a problem with is the lack of wii U support. The console isn't exactly flying off the shelves due to the fact there is a limited amount of games available... Especially games exclusive to the console itself.

[PopRocks359]

Translation: I don't like this because Mario is in the title. Let's not bother to see if the game has anything new to offer to the formula, nope! I see Mario, I'm done. *wipes hands*

I honestly can't believe that this stupid community is actually ONCE AGAIN taking new game announcements and turning it into bad news.

[bicfitness]

There's nothing wrong with not liking Mario. It doesn't make you inbred or a nazi or anything. And if you take away Mario, or lifestyle software and get down to the games really, the proportion of desirable content gets exponentially smaller. What new IPs has Nintendo put out lately? 1st party stuff. Not sporadic titles that get released every 5 years or so, but genuine fresh IPs that they nurture and build? What was AAA, 1st party, fresh IP? I can't even recall.

[ThePsychoGamer]

I don't think I've seen any one but complain so much about an online community (well except for trolls), if you don't like this sites community, then leave, the doors right there. Go find some community the sees the same illusion of Nintendo that you see, or make your own. But please stop with the negativity towards this community.

[Neonridr]

it's hard to take this community seriously when there are so many people on here that automatically assume anything Nintendo does is garbage, but if Sony or MS copy it and slap their own branding on it, suddenly it's acceptable.

The reason Nintendo stays the course is because their games sell. Wanna know why there will be a Mario Kart Wii U? Because the Wii version sold 33 million+ copies. Name one Sony or Microsoft game that has done even half of that? Oh what, you can't?

Nintendo is a business, and their end goal is to make money. If 20 million people buy a Super Mario Brothers game don't you think they're going to want to release another one?

It's simple economics here people, they aren't in business to make you feel special inside or make you feel warm in the pants. They are here to make money.. And sales don't lie.

Not to mention that this whole Luigi thing is just a DLC addon to an existing Wii U game. Something to add more value to a game, and it's frowned upon... WOW.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Why is it that all nintendo news is good to you?

Can't you admit that maybe just maybe they are doing something wrong? I am a sony fan but I can at least see that they also f**k up..

I wouldn't want an uncharted: Karting, Uncharted: tennis and new uncharted:spin off for the next 20 years. Really one recipe for every generation might not work forever.

But I can understand you like mario since you played mario games for a long time.

Even I liked mario galaxy!

But really nintendo is kinds looking sad with all the repeating games.

Since the 80's man...

It's like you already know what to expect and that is no fun.

But lol I think nintendo is eying sony hence the announcements.

I would would be stupid to not consider buying wiiU later in the future when games start to come.

Xenoblade is looking hot!

I hope nintendo and sony dominate next gen. I like both better than Microsoft.

[Qrphe]

Well they're opinions, not everyone likes Mario and Luigi still. I don't find these news exciting so they're neither good nor bad.

[LOL_WUT]

It's the same old formula with Nintendo. Fans gladly accept anything Nintendo throws at them no wonder Nintendo doesn't bother taking any risks.

@ThePsychoGamer Well said ;)

[Yodagamer]

I love mario, i'll be the first to admit it, but mario has been in a slump (probably because the last titles have been nsmb titles). I mean they don't even try to change the wheel on those. Heck even mario golf on the 3ds shows more creativity than the recent 2d mario games.

[RuperttheBear]

'Fans gladly accept anything Nintendo throws at them no wonder Nintendo doesn't bother taking any risks. '

What the f*uck does any other company do? Really?

Lay it down the line and ask yourself what any other company does to make games? What difference has Sony made to gaming? What has it added to gaming, and be honest.

Because I don't see a lot of difference coming from Sony. Last of Us? I want it, but it's been done before. I've played games like Stalker, Resident Evil, Silent Hill. It's nothing new. It might have a layer of polish, but it's not reallly anything I haven't seen before.

God of War: Ascension? Seen it all before. Oh but it has multiplayer? So what, pretty much every game has multiplayer.

Beyond: Two Souls? You watch a cutscene and decide which path to take. Deciding which path you should take through a game has been going for years, decades. What does it really do that is new? You have prettier graphics.

Little Big Planet? Making your own levels has been standard for pc for years. It's nothing new, it just has better presentation.

At the end of the day Nintendo is no more guilty of recycling game ideas than anyone else. The fact is you don't see it.

[Donnieboi]

Relax fanboy. Realize that MAYBE the reason that the MAJORITY of people are growing bored of Nintendo is because Nintendo might be...I dunno, boring?

You don't have some special insight that allows you to see why Nintendo is somehow magically amazing, while the rest of us are left in the dark, do you? They are not doing anything to excite the average gamer. Nintendo fans never demand much. Nintendo only now finally stepped out of the stone-age and into modern gaming, online, etc. Nintendo could release Yoshi-printed toilet paper, and Nintendo fans would be content.

The rest of us are not. It's not HATE towards Nintendo, it is us coming to a realization that Nintendo is just plain losing it (Core-gaming-wise). Nintendo may sell like crazy, but I don't personally know anyone (who is an adult) who feels an attachment to Nintendo's franchises anymore. The irony with that, is that it is mostly adults who have the fondest memories of Nintendo, SNES, and N64. Yet, Nintendo never grew up with us. I'm fine with family gaming, so I don't mean mature rating games. What I mean, is that their franchises have never evolved. I grew into an adult, I have experienced new things. I evolved. When will Nintendo? So it may sell, but who is the demographic? The reason why 3ds is selling so well is because of children. I only once seen an adult with a 3ds (seriously). I seen more adults with Vita's (although 3DS out-sells Vita 10-1), Old DS's, and Mobile Phones instead of 3ds. I see mostly children with 3DS. Why? Because parents will not buy their small kids/pre-teens a mobile phone. And the Vita is barely marketed and no adult in their right mind would give a Vita to a child who would break it so easily (and it barely has any kid games). So 3DS only wins by default.

But let's stay on Wii U. If you think that most people are wrong, and that you are so right, then maybe your the one who is delusional. Look at the comments, look at Wii U's sales (software-wise). The only games selling on Wii U are children games/first parties (the first parties due to fanboys buying Super Mario Bros Wii U which is an HD rehash of the Wii version with new maps whipped together using a simple level deitor Nintendo probably had). Most people are not impressed by Nintendo's lack of initiative any more (same goes for Microsoft's handling of 360/Kinect/Live fees in the last 3 years). And I think it's because of Iwata that Nintendo is losing it's edge (he was prez since Gamecube to now). But Iwata is a whole other topic.

So I always hear you guys talking about how everyone else has it wrong, and are just haters. But I got news for you: NOT everyone is trying to hate. Almost all of us probably owned and loved a Nintendo product at some time. But MAYBE the majority of people just plain fine Nintendo "Underwhelming" NOW. Maybe that's what the "U" in Wii U should stands for.

[bicfitness]

@Rupert. Folklore, Genji, Rain (think that's what its called, not Heavy Rain), Gravity Rush, Heavenly Sword, Demon's Souls, Soul Sacrifice, Tokyo Jungle. I could go on and on. All new IPs, all created by Sony (1st party) in the last 5 years or so. What's interesting is about 1/2 of those weren't commercial explosions, yet Sony made them anyway. That's how you spur creativity. You don't keep painting the same picture and expect it to be just as evocative as the last, you paint a new one. With fresh ideas and subjects. Sure, it might not be as good as the last, but it COULD be better. A masterpiece even.

And Beyond doesn't play like HR at all, if you actually read developer interviews. One thing that I'll give Mr. Cage is that he's actually making games for an adult audience. I'm not talking about that bromance, space-marine crap, that's just as juvenile as Mario can be. I'm talking about emotional journeys that involve families and decision making. I'm a 30+ year old man now with a family, I enjoy games that cater to this aspect of my lifestyle. That's not to say that I can't sit down and enjoy a mindless shooter or a platform game or two, but those sorts of experiences aren't made to stimulate an emotional response other than gratification.

Also LBP is the perfect example of a broadly appealing game. You can play that game with a child as its platforming is simple enough, but the British narrator and his wry sense of humour (Tim Fry?) and the deeper construction elements are definitely geared toward adults. Its like a Pixar movie in terms of different levels of perception operating within the same experience. There is no "deeper" level to Mario. He's still after the princess, he's still collecting gold and jumping around, and he'll probably beat up Bowser at the end. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. And for some people like myself, we've looked elsewhere for more moving experiences.

Gaming is a fantastic medium that is just now starting to age and grow with its audience. I can't wait to see where it goes next, and I hope that Nintendo jumps on the bandwagon one day instead of relying on rehashing IPs.

[RuperttheBear]

Ninja Theory made Heavenly Sword, Game Republic who are now no more made Folklore, they are dead. They will make games no longer.

Demons Souls was made by From Software, who clearly didn't rely on Sony for their sequel as the next game in the series went multiplat.

Soul Sacrifice? Well the Sun shines on a dogs ass at least once a day.

Tokyo Jungle? Who cares about Tokyo Jungle? Lol, you are seriously reaching.

The Sony exclusives only really concern the Sony faithful. There are games that might be something to shout about, but most people don't hear you.

We're too busy playing other games.

[bicfitness]

Rupert.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Heavenly Sword was a JOINT VENTURE - 2nd party - IP that Sony OWNS and SCEE helped make. NT originally was trying to prep the game on the Xbox, but MS didn't want it. Sony stepped in and sealed the deal with an exclusivity clause, and/ or formalized the IP (I'm not sure that it was "Heavenly Sword" at that point and not some random brawler). Same with Demon's Souls and From Software. SCEJ actually worked on assets and coding and everything with that game. Game Republic worked on Folklore and the PSP sequel as 2nd party as well. Sony OWNS and nourished/ published the IP.

You clearly ignored Gravity Rush and a bunch of other games simply because they didn't fall in line with your rhetoric. If you'd like to make the argument that Nintendo are more supportive and experimental with publishing IPs than Sony have proven themselves to be, go on, I'd like to hear it.

[Imalwaysright]

@ Rupert True. Imo the last revolutionary game this industry has seen was GTA3. Pretty much every game released this gen has followed templates that were set by games released more than 10 years ago. Having said that I think its safe to say that Sony has done a better job at offering their fanbase more varied experiences than Nintendo. Twisted Metal, Warhawk, MLB the Show, Motorstorm, Siren series, Demons Souls, Sly, InFamous... are examples of that variety.

[PopRocks359]

You know what I love about all of the moronic ingrates here who are accusing me of being a fanboy and saying it's not okay to dislike Mario?

The funny thing is I never said anything of the goddamn sort. I said it was stupid that this article and the early commenters were trying to make the announcement of Mario games sound like a bad idea. It's like trying to say Disney putting out a family film is a bad idea. It's beyond stupid, and so are some of these comments.

@ThePsychoGamer

So basically you admit that the community is shit and I should just up and leave. Okay, bite me first. I've been following this community for a couple of years, commenting for at least one and there has been NO improvements on the immaturity or the blatant bias. Seriously, I'll be as negative toward this community as I care to be because it's completely warranted.

New IPs, look at the eshop. I don't see Microsoft bringing out any new IPs either. But hey, let's single out Nintendo cuz it's fun!

@shutUpAndTakeMyMoney

Because I thought that tying games to a console or giving some poor soul less than half the money (on the wrong shop no less) he needed for lost VC games were good news? You're completely false there.

And no, I won't admit that because the Mario formula is a good one that works and continues to work.

@Qrphe

Never said otherwise. I just think it's stupid that announcements for a company's mascot character is construed as bad news.

@Yodagamer

Fair enough; I disagree to a slight degree. The only games that truly repeat the same thing over and over are the sports titles (generally) and NSMB. The 3D games almost always innovate.

@Dannieboi

The majority. Yeah. Right. You sir, are nothing short of a fool. THAT was as ridiculous a comment as I'm gonna see today.

Honestly, I don't think I've seen more strawman arguments in one post. Good show.

EDIT: Also lol "fanboy." Like I haven't heard that one before.

OH HEY!! You know what I love the most about you condescending individuals? You act like my "fanboyism" is so horrible when really at this point I'm just annoyed at the constant barrage of negativity on EVERY. SINGLE. Nintendo news on this site. And it's always you same guys as well. Go figure.

If I was half as negative on Sony related articles, I'd be down to a single bubble in less than a week.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Maybe if you weren't blinded by how much you hate for this site, you could have comprehended what I said, I said nothing about this community.

I said that instead of annoying and degrading this community purely because some of it's members have a different opinion then you, you should leave.

The site would be better with out you you trolling the community

[PopRocks359]

@ThePsychoGamer

Hey, taking my words out of context. That hasn't happened at all either!

Yeah, I'm the troll when all I have done is defend Nintendo (and apparently myself). That makes a crapload of sense when you and several others here ONLY spew the same negative rhetoric on every single Nintendo related article.

Not to mention before the system even came out, you would not stop obsessing over region locking. Every article, no matter what the context was about region locking.

So yeah, clearly I'm so horrible for this community. With guys like you, who needs trolls?

EDIT: You DID mention the community. Read your own comment, you troll. And by the way, given this website's (and its community's) shoddy at best reputation, you'd do well to do some thinking before insulting me just for criticizing said community. At this point I could have said much worse and it still would have been accurate and warranted.

[Stroke666]

debbiedowner just proves the double standard, as she stupidly admits her minor nephew playsmature rated COD(plz don't cop a plea that he's 18 in hs cause then u wouldnt make the mario comparison) by the way the dude that shot up the kindergarten in conneticut played cod should i be worried about ur nephew. back on track, cod has been done how many times but thats fine, nintendo uses there ip and something is wrong with that? nintendo is the company people love to hate.

[SilentNegotiator]

"it's hard to take this community seriously when there are so many people on here that automatically assume anything Nintendo does is garbage"

That's a load of sh**. No one "assumes everything Nintendo does is garbage". A lot of people are just sick of Nintendo making the same games over and over.

[insomnium2]

@neon

"Nintendo is a business, and their end goal is to make money. If 20 million people buy a Super Mario Brothers game don't you think they're going to want to release another one? "

But what's in it for you? Another Mario chasing the same princess all over again. You want that?

[kirbyu]

What are you talking about? If you're talking about the New Super Luigi Bros. U DLC, it's not just replacing Mario with Luigi, Iwata said all the levels were redesigned.

Why does being a sequel automatically make a game bad? Why does being a new IP automatically make a game good?

I also don't get why people keep saying the Wii U needs 3rd party support.

3rd party games aren't automatically good, 1st party games aren't automatically bad.

@bicfitness
That's not what he was trying to say. He was saying you shouldn't judge a game solely on what franchise it is. I don't get why so many Mario games is so bad. It's not like they're all the same.

[bicfitness]

Well to start off, he called the entire N4G community "stupid", so that set the tone for hostility, not discussion, right there.

It is the process of creativity that drives invention and ingenuity. Developers and publishers should always be pushing for new IP. Continuing to capitalize upon a successful franchise while outputting next to nothing that is new is not good. Eventually, you go creatively bankrupt. People who think that Mario will endure for all time at the rate the market is shifting are in for a rude awakening. Giants like WoW and, CoD are finally starting to peak and erode. It happens to every IP after a while and with the explosion of indie games, Kickstarter projects and bold new ways to publish, these archaic IPs will continue to look more and more dated.

Its in Nintendo's best interests to make new IPs while they're still relevant. My nephew and niece are 3 and 5, respectively, and do you know what they play? What they have plushies of? Angry Birds. Not my cup of tea, but its a great lesson in how brands can shift on a dime.

[amaguli]

People see that lack of new IPs from Nintendo very disheartening, because there was a time when Nintendo introduced fresh, new franchises to gaming.

Now it is just Mario, Mario spin-offs, and party games. No one is saying Mario is bad, it is Nintendo's heavy reliance on the franchise that is bad. We understand that Mario is a big name and is guaranteed to sell like crazy, but that is no excuse for the lack of innovation from Nintendo.

It is just tough love from the community.

[ElectricKaibutsu]

@Amaguli

Sony made 3 new IPs last year according to Wikipedia: Wonderbook, Sorcery, and Tokyo Jungle. Nintendo also made 3: Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower.

It's like if a game doesn't have Mario in the title people don't know it's a new IP by Nintendo, but if a game does have Mario in the title people complain that they don't make new IPs.

I agree Nintendo releases a lot of games with Mario in the title but I don't think that makes them any less innovative. Every Mario game, excluding direct sequels, are drastically different from each other. It seems to me that the people who tend to bash Mario games (not you) are the ones who would never give them a chance. In the end, Mario games tend to be well made, fun games. If someone has some specific aversion to the Mario character then I could see how that could limit their enjoyment of Nintendo games, but otherwise I don't see the problem of having a mascot as long as all the games aren't the same.

[Mottsy]

Well said Electric! Nintendo games are fun! I like Mario games. From tennis to paper Mario they our different. Now I agree Nintendo may not be for everyone, gaming as a community is so diverse now adays. When I grew up with Nintendo and Sega it was mostly a nerdy not socially acceptable for the most part. Now we see video games everywhere.Certain games are going to attract a different crowd. Nintendo for the most part has a well solid formula and I believe they are trying to just please all the crowds, Old and young. But the proof is in the pudding you can't please everyone. I don't just enjoy playing Nintendo games I enjoy most games from all consoles PC included but I for sure can say I do not hate Nintendo. Playa Don't Hate! just play!

[chadboban]

Sony and Nintendo have always been the consoles I buy and honestly, neither of them have let me down yet. Sure people will have their different tastes and whatnot, and there is nothing wrong with not liking Mario, but to me saying they're all the same without playing them is going kinda far. I mean you seriously gonna tell me that the new Mario and Luigi RPG they announced is the same as Luigi's Mansion 2?

People always say that Nintendo doesn't take risks, it's pretty much like Nintendo didn't even announce that new Monolith game, you know that RPG with the mechs and giants monsters. Yep, that's just typical Nintendo right? And crossing over Shin Megami Tensei with Fire Emblem, sure there is absolutely no risk there, correct? And lets not forget releasing games like Xenoblade, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower(I'm aware that TLS and PT are published by XSEED in America but Nintendo did have a hand in making these games) in a market where JRPGs are constantly being called irrelevant.

I know Nintendo is seen as being a company that does the same thing over and over, but if you ask me, this gen, they really seem to be trying harder. especially since their doing stuff like publishing games like The Wonderful 101 and (please don't attack me for this) Bayonetta 2, Monolith's new game and SMTxFE like I mentioned before.

Like I said in the beginning Sony and Nintendo have always suited me as a gamer, but as I go around the internet I always see people fighting over which one is the best. It's only since the day I began to browse the web I became aware of this thing where we apparently HAVE to pick sides. Well pardon my french here but I really don't give a shit. Just enjoy what you play, because in the end that's all that matters.

[Denethor_II]

"Nintendo’s Lack of Interest From Gamers"

Don't alienate gamers in favor for your fickle causal player then.
Microsoft need to take note here. Yes you can make some money from this consumer base, but they'll jump ship as soon as something else catches their eye. Sony did it right this gen, and although had to share its core consumer base with MS, I think it will pay dividends next gen if MS go full retard with Kinecto.

[N4g_null]

Really we might need the gamer zone back. This is why I'm glad Nintendo has miiverse. You don't have to put up with all the trolling. I'm glad to see they did this direct and I hope the alien game is fixed on the wiiu, we may even need a demo now also.

[morkendo23]

this not for you "THESUPERIOR"

NINTENDO could have won me over with titles for wii-U from SNES portfolio but that has not happen (YET). soooo many great games could have been re-done.

[Bobby Kotex]

I'll get downvoted, but look at the Nintendo fans. They eat up every new Mario game like candy when it's just the same crap with a fresh coat of paint.

[linkkjm]

Eh, I never was a Nintendo fan.

[NintyJazz]

So why are you here?

[linkkjm]

Really?

[NintyJazz]

That doesnt answer the question. If you don't have any interest in Nintendo, what made you click on the article and comment? There's nothing rational about that, just saying, I know this site is full of trolls though

[Neonridr]

The last Nintendo Direct focused more on the Wii U, this one was more on the 3DS. Nintendo has an extremely successful handheld department that they have to continue to support are nuture. There are over 25 million people with 3DS devices that are eager to learn about what new games they are going to get to play. We had some pretty good Wii U coverage with the whole Resident Evil Revelations, Monolith Softs new game, the new Fire Emblem game and Bayonetta 2.

It's funny how they have a really good Nintendo Direct with a lot of surprises, now suddenly everyone expects them all to be like that...

[kirbyu]

Anyone who was expecting Wii U announcements shouldn't have. A whole bunch of Wii U games in the last Nintendo Direct, which was like, only a month ago. They're probably saving their big announcements for E3.

[sandman224]

They should really lower the price of there console to 199. Then maybe it wouldn't be so bad. If not they're going to be joining sega and jaguar in retirement!

[Yodagamer]

There isn't even a chance of that, why anybody thinks that is insane. They've pretty well said they have money saved up, it's gonna be a very long time before nintendo goes under.

[wiiulee]

lol...and the bad decision is what...give gamers a unique system and bring out games for it...ok? silly articles

[TongkatAli]

Sigh, why is everything a dick measuring contest ? Just play the games you like that bring joy to you.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I would never be a dick and say turnabout is fair play, because I've said time and time again that there are people actively trying to dismantle gaming, yet we have "gamers" destroying it from the inside out with all this bickering. I just find it ironic that this is exactly what PlayStation fans had to wade through for almost the entirety of this generation. Hate hate hate hatred. I know its the user base who approves articles, but sometimes I feel like its this guy sitting at a desk just pulling every single string

[Kratoscar2008]

If it werent for the 3DS success i would say Nintendo is going under.

[Whymii]

No one says that you have to like Mario. No one says you have to like Nintendo. No says you have to buy a Wii u. So you don't like Mario, hate Nintendo and will never buy a Wii u because you will only own a PS4 or Nextbox, then good for you. Enjoy the many great games that will appear on them. Just stop fooling yourselves that your not trolling when you post nothing but negative comments against a game, company or system.

Having an opposing opinion is fine, but they should be balanced and not blindly biased.

Love the games, not the console.

[SuperShyGuy]

It wasn't supposed to be a Wii U based Nintendo Direct.
It was a 3DS focused Nintendo Direct.

Seriously people are just looking for reason to jump on Nintendo even if they have to create their own strawman to attack.

[XboxInnovation]

Nintendo are too old-school, they are not up to date with new school gamers. They need to hire some young guys. Get rid of Reggie should be first priority.

[Whymii]

Your opinion and arguement is well thought out and succinctly articulated. Just one little point though, what does Reggie have to do with game or console development?

[Jek_Porkins]

They should seriously rename this place to something more appropriate, all the negative comments are sickening. Nintendo has always done a good job at guessing where the people will want to go when it comes to gaming.

Nintendo always tends to innovate and the other companies wait and see if it works for Nintendo and then they use it, while beforehand they trash Nintendo for doing it! The Wii U has been out for less than 3 months, they haven't come close to hitting their stride. Do people honestly think when we see the first real, new Zelda game in full HD that people aren't going to be interested?

[Old McGroin]

"They should seriously rename this place to something more appropriate, all the negative comments are sickening."

I only think of this community as Negativity4Gamers now, you're right, the troll to real gamer ratio is vastly in favor of the trolls.

[RAFFwaff]

really dont agree with any of this article. the europe nintendo direct at least was only suppsed to be about the 3ds. and as for your tone that no one is really focused/or more concened with wii u than 3ds, well check the sales graphs and you will see the millions who are focused on 3ds. the next few months of games are gona reinforce the 3ds dominance in hand held market AND keep it holding its own against the hd consoles.

[NirvanaInChains]

Yeah that really is a bummer about there announcements but i think real soon they will start pumping out wiiU games because they have recently been pumping up the 3ds library like crazy, Seems like there trying to fill it up to play catch up then shift majority of dev to 1st party wiiU. But they should address this to us like how they did about the new zelda taking 2 years not keep us wondering.

[ElectricKaibutsu]

That's kind of what I'm thinking. The 3DS has been out for 2 years and is really starting to hit its stride. All these games that have been in development are finally being announced and released this year. Hopefully that's what will happen with the Wii U next year.

[KillrateOmega]

This announcement may have been more focused on the 3DS, but the statements in the article and here in the comments still hold merit. Nintendo can best be described right now as 'underwhelming'. Likely because of their heavy reliance on the Mario franchise and other franchise spin-offs and/or bad decision-making.

I just don't get excited when I look at Nintendo now-a-days.

[Deku-Johnny]

You must have ridiculous standards for you to think Nintendo are underwhelming after the two Nintendo Directs we've had this year.

[KillrateOmega]

I'm talking about their games; specifically focused on the area of the WiiU.

[khowat]

Cool, stay underwhelmed

If Nintendo can't please you maybe somebody else can

[KillrateOmega]

I'm an Xbox gamer, so that is not a problem :P

I don't see why everyone is so butthurt about people like me and others expressing discontent with Nintendo as of late. It's our opinion and one that is not unreasonable. If Nintendo wishes to prove people like me wrong, then they should step up their game.

[Tzuno]

Do they even play games? :)

[RockmanII7]

I feel like yall aren't giving Luigi the respect he deserves

Respect the Luigi

[MNGamer-N]

I like Nintendo games and enjoy greatly my 3ds and wiiU. And, yes I am an adult. And there are millions more like me. If that bothers you, then that's sad. I don't, and probably never will, understand how anyone can hate games from any company and call themselves a gamer. Well I guess I'll just go back to playing my lousy new Fire Emblem game. Peace.

[Clarence]

The problem is Nintendo just released a whole new console without releasing it main console selling game. Mario or Zelda.

Instead they're talking about 3ds games to cover up the fact that as of yet they have not one good game to go with the Wii u. I would like to see a new Mario game. Not the stupid 2d Mario game Nintendo's been rehashing for the past couple of years.

Not to many people are interested in the Wii u, the sells indicate that. The excitement wore off faster than it did for the Wii. No Wii sports means no sells right now. Old people won't be buying this new console. The kids who wanted a Wii are now teenagers and they are interested in the Playstation and Xbox now .

[khowat]

Games don't come out of this magical game hole
IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE A ZELDA GAME
Perhaps they should have just ported Sky ward sword to WII U and made it a launch title and everyone would be happy

[e-p-ayeaH]

nintendo better stop making consoles its embarrassing they have no idea what do now.

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

OBVIOUSLY,
We ALL saw different things during the Nintendo Direct,

You guys saw Mario and Luigi-

I however,
SAW Nintendo saying, "Ha ha ha, you don't own a 3DS!? You want to play Fire Emblem? - you want to download these maps and content?- give us your money punk!"

I am surprised no one else saw that.
I would be offended but I am a Fire Emblem junkie.

[DivineAssault]

i dont even care what they do anymore..

[Deku-Johnny]

> Watches Nintendo 3DS Direct
> Expects a lot of Wii U announcements...

I want whatever you guys are smoking.

[LeiAndLove]

Am I the only one who enjoyed this Nintendo Direct? They unveiled a new RPG, sports game, puzzle game, 3D port, and major pack of DLC, along with announcing the release date for Animal Crossing and discussing a lot more. It was a pretty darn good 30 minutes, as far as I'm concerned.

[Deku-Johnny]

No you're not, I was happy with it. It's good to see the 3DS finally seems to be hitting it's stride. That's the problem with gaming, people expect consoles to deliver straight away and I don't a console ever has.

[schlanz]

People have the balls to say Nintendo doesnt make great games a week after the sublime Fire Emblem Awakening is released.

Tsk tsk.

[yeahokchief]

Nothing new here. I just wasted 5 minutes to hear that the Wii U won't have any games that i'll be interested in until next year at least.

No news is good news I guess. I suppose I'll keep my money then. GL Nintendon't.

[Novistador]

So.. people are spelling doom for Nintendo after they have released 2 press releases within a short time each one announcing a new game, release dates, and updates to current games. This is the 3ds "doomsday" period all over again.

[VikTheStampede]

lol,whats not to like? More games to be explored and enjoyed :3
Was it more focused on 3ds? Yes.
Did we know this? Yes.

Honestly, I think it was pretty good, I do not own a 3ds but with all the recent anouncment I sure wish I did, and im seriously considering getting one these days.

[axisofweevils]

3DS conference in focuses on 3DS shocker.

[younghavok]

In the gaming world its cool to do two things, hate on Call Of Duty and Nintendo. But lets be honest, neither Nintendo or activision care. They still outsell the competition consistently. Kiss Sony's ass all day, their IPs dont make them anywhere near the money Nintendo's does, or even Microsofts for that matter. And Nintendo has more IPs than Sony. People will continue to hate because when Nintendo "milks" its franchises it makes more and more millions. When Microsoft milks its franchises it makes more and more millions, when Sony tries with its franchises it doesn't even come close.

If people want to hate or have different tastes that is on them. But trying to downplay Nintendo when they announce the games that people will clearly want, its just pointless cause it wont stop the cash registers. Bring on the disagrees or whatever but it is what it is

[Main_Street_Saint]

Another example of people wanting a company to cater to them. There is Sony and Microsoft folks! If Nintendo isn't releasing software, just go elsewhere.

[Hellorama]

Don't tell the other companies didn't do the same. On Xbox360 there are 4 Halo games, 4 Gears of War games, 3 or 4 Forza Motorsport. Sony has 3 Uncharted, 2 GoW, 2 Little Big Planet, Killzone, Rat&Clank. And the same IPs are on the Sony handhelds. So Nintendo is really not different from the other companies, that has new IPs, but only because they have more support from 3rd parties. This is bussiness, maybe it is sad but that's the truth.
If you don't like what a company offers you don't have to worry, you'll find something else somewhere else.
Honestly, I'm ok with Nintendo. I really enjoy their games, and this is what really matters!

[corrus]

@DebbieDowner
Calling people stupid ? If you weren't a Nintendo fanboy I would be offended, but you are a Ninty fanboy so how are you smart ?

Do you see the garbage you pay 35$ or 60$ for. Rehashed level designs, the fruitiest of the fruitiest games, no voice acting, no story, no boobs, no adult language and bad hardware with the Fisher Price seal of approval.

People won't miss much if Nintendo went far far away. It would also be better for our American kids who play this garbage making them do bad in school. My nephew loves COD and his grades are amazing.

HAHAHAHA you're right that Nintendo only makes garbage and sells it expensive and washing brains with that Mario cos their fans are monsters Nintendo are losers and always will be and about E3 2013 for Nintendo will be like E3 2012 and 2011 and 2010 or with other words they will show nothing is not worthy to watch their stupid press conference

[millzy102]

I have a 3ds and to be honest none of them games really intrest me, I never really liked the Mario sports games and rpgs etc, is it a bad thing, no. why, because I already own or know about the games I wanted, like pokemon x and y (yeah I know its sad I'm a 25 year old playing pokemon), zelda (both ocarina 3d and new one that is gonna come at some point), metal gear 3d, dead or alive dimensions I could go on.

however I can understand why people don't play nintendo or like them, that's why I also play PlayStation and am looking farward to Feb 20th plus my Mrs only plays PlayStation and phone (she is a casual gamer so choosing phone or console is bs, casuals play both phone and Nintendo, PlayStation or Xbox), I used too play Xbox and 360 but I have up Microsoft 3 years ago. do I troll Microsoft no and am I defiantly not getting a new Xbox next to my ps4 and wii u, no I'm waiting to see what games they have to ofer as I know Sony and Nintendo never disappoint in the software. I can play mario, zelda, xenonblade, bayonetta 2, uncharted, killzone, littlebigplannet, metal gear solid 4 and any multiplayer that tickles my fancy

now I don't like any fanboys for any company, its silly your just limiting your self, but at least Nintendo fanboys support them, how many Sony fanboys here own a vita? I do and it is a really great system.

also geezer above me are you seriously saying your nephiew has good grades for playing cod, shit I wish that was out when I was at school, but seriously I smoke pot and that is delusional

[kariyanine]

I tuned out after "Year of Luigi".

[wheresmymonkey]

Another day another stupid article telling us how nintendo are doomed.

then the usual bollocks in the comments about nintendo making the same games starts from the usual people that dont have a clue.

Sure i'll be called a fanboy for this but the fact of the matter is that the actual facts of the matter back me up.

The wii has still sold more units than the ps3 and 360 have and the 3ds is kicking the vitas arse, actually selling faster than the orignial ds did.

Also nintendo actually published a hell of a lot of 2nd party exclusive console on the wii such as Xenoblade, fatal frame 4 and the last sotry as well as bringing back numerous franchises that hadn't been seen in years like punch out and sin and punishment.

A trend it looks like they're going to continue on the 3ds and wiiU.

Besides all this talk of there being no games isn't exactly exclusive to nintendo. the ps3 had a servere doubt of decent games for the first two years of its life and 360 had similar. as did every other console from time in memorium.

[ozzywazzy]

Year of luigi, lol. If that's the best they can come up with..

[jakmckratos]

Im kinda excited to still have a 3DS honestly...but the Wii U s severely lacking. Don't worry it'll announce Mario 3D, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and the real Legend of Zelda Wii U and everybody will hail it as a masterpiece of a system all that while.

The Wii U lacks games that will appeal to Nintendo fans looking for something besides those core four games and 2-D side scrollers. Let's be real in the last 3 years they've had DK Country Returns,Kirby EPic Yarn, the other Kirby game 2 New SUper Mario Bros, now a Yoshi Yarn game...and they're full price games. That's the thing that kills me. If you're going to release a 2D game then make it cheaper unless it offers something supeer original. We're not necessarily the same people who former their love over video games in the 2D era.