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PS4 controller: new details emerge pre-reveal

A VG247 source has seemingly confirmed that the PS4 controller will include a front touch-pad, speaking a week before the console’s expected reveal in New York.

NeverEnding19894087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

So it's pretty much confirmed that the PS4 controller will borrow heavily from the ergonomic Xbox 360 controller and recycle the Wii U front screen.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery, but what happened to the innovative SONY of the PS2 days? Are those days so far gone?

Where did the SONY I know and love go?

Walker4087d ago

What the hell are you talking about ?!

ExCest4087d ago

"The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock" wtf you talkin' 'bout? Where does it say it'll borrow from the Xbox controller?

"We’ve been told today that the L2 and R2 buttons have been remodelled for the better." Does that instantly mean "hurrdurr copy MS"?

Recycle the Wii U front screen: Or integrate a vita?

GribbleGrunger4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

When did Nintendo and Microsoft patent a slight curve in the triggers (which is what I take this to mean). Could you show me those patents please?

This jealousy needs to stop. It really is exposing the youngsters out there.

fabod864087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

It's a touch-pad and not a screen, like the one in the back of the PSVita. -_-
Also "The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock"... where did you get any relation with the 360 one?
What a........ :/

Edit - Seams someone preceded me. :P

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

"NeverEnding1989"

There is no sony you love you just hate them.
If they cured cancer you would say they ripped off the medical industry and are not innovative.

If Killzone 4 look super realistic you will say they ripped of real life and xbla bobble head avatars playing tennis is purely amazing.

I am pretty sure you purposely ignore the innovative games sony makes. And will not complain when 720 uses blu ray.

You only troll sony articles and never once complain that xbox has few AAA games or charge for multiplayer.

And yet something is wrong with sony?

Maybe if their last new AAA game was in 2010 like alan wake you would feel better about sony?

Instead ni no kuni, god of war, the last of us and beyond the same year as ps4 is not enough?

Also you probably think nintendo is innovative for making a tablet controller in the middle of a tablet boom.

Good job. You are and Grade A troll.
I will buy you a bridge so you can live under it.

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guitarded774086d ago

I would ask you where you got that idea from, but you only have one bubble and cannot reply :D

kratos174086d ago

Never ending troll since 1989

dafegamer4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

since when is a touchpad a screen dumbass
also "The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock". Speaking of reading comprehension skills

Clarence4086d ago

You must be smoking! They just said
"The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock. We’ve been told today that the L2 and R2 buttons have been remodelled for the better."

BattleAxe4086d ago

"PS4 controller will borrow heavily from the ergonomic Xbox 360 controller and recycle the Wii U front screen"

Dude, you must be on drugs. More like they're borrowing heavily from the PS Vita.

Ritsujun4086d ago

NeverEnding1989 has been mad since 1989.

Convas4086d ago

ROFLMFAO!!!!

ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney talking about trolling.

The sweet, sweet, SWWEEEEEET irony.

SonyAddict4086d ago

I think you will find that everything xbox was in fact copied from sony!,or should I say stole.The only reason Microsoft got into the console business was to piss of sony in the first place and remember what paved the way for Xbox?,It was PLAYSTATION!...so don't forget what came first and what ruled as the KING of all consoles

evilhasitsway4086d ago

more like there using the back of the vita you retard.

humbleopinion4086d ago

What's the problem with not being innovative? You don't innovation if your product is good, and borrowing the Xbox controller ergonomics as well as the WiiU gamepad screen sounds like a very good.

The Wiimote was innovative. The Kinect was innovative. The sixaxis was innovative. Does anyone care? I rather have a good controller than an innovative one that doesn't work

nosferatuzodd4085d ago (Edited 4085d ago )

Wow! nice stealth trolling there very good job mate..

nosferatuzodd4085d ago

This is a classic case of being an Xbox nazi,
If its up to this guy we would all have a chip in our heads
Playing Kinect adventures with a windows phone and apple and google workers would be going to the gas chamber on live television broadcast,And we would all
Have a SWAT STICKER burned in our forehead ..

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TheGamerDood4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

I'm sick of all the rumor articles but I can't help but click on and read all of the latest info. -_-

Only 7 more days to go, hurry up Sony, make time go faster dammit! :D

Spinal4086d ago

As long as we got some good triggers im happy :)

Ares84HU4086d ago

Imagine if they do show off the PS4. How impatent you will be to wait for months for it's release!

Skips4086d ago

I hope they didn't touch the analog sticks. Other then making them concave.

I don't like analog sticks that aren't aligned. lol

stage884086d ago

No no no. Concave is an awful idea. My fingers ALWAYS slip off the 360's sticks.
Lets hope Sony stays with the convex sticks and of course aligned.

squarecircle4086d ago

My thumbs slip off convex sticks and I always find I'm less accurate when making slight movements, I always play with the rubber concaved stick covers.

To be fair it's all down to personal preference, I hope they give you an option this time.

Fil1014086d ago

I would like to see the L3 & R3 stiffened up abit and made abit more durable.

thorstein4086d ago

I got 49 disagrees the other day for claiming it would launch at $350. This article is claiming $400 (not too far off).

N4G, I gotta love ya!

xursz4086d ago

350 is what Nintendo is charging for the Wiiu. I think 450 will be the sweet spot for PS4 and the xbox720 will be 400.

Ritsujun4086d ago

It's all about the MATERIAL, dudes.

andibandit4086d ago

@Stage88

Convex is a NOGO, i cant play more than 2 hours with convex sticks, and please make it assymetrical or let us choose.

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delboy4086d ago

Nah, only a touch pad, disappointing, can't draw p***** without a screen.

rainslacker4086d ago

Despite the fact that many professional 3D artists use touch pads for drawing, and they don't have screens on them? You'd be amazed what can be done with a touch pad.

ZombieNinjaPanda4086d ago

@Rainslacker

Except professional 3D artists don't use a touchpad that is (projected, assumed, rumored, and hyped) to be the size of my thumb. A friend of mine is a professional 3D artist and the touchpad he uses for personal use is the size of a 15 inch laptop screen.

rainslacker4086d ago

And how does that refute what I said? Touch pads can be used to draw. I personally have one that is 7x9" which is bigger than a controller but still not that large. A small touchscreen can be just as effective as a big one. And a controllers touchscreen is likely to be bigger than one's thumbs. A controllers touchscreen primary purpose isn't to draw anyhow, unless there is some application for it with software, which possibly there will be, along with other applications a dev may come up with.

delboy is a troll who doesn't like anything. He always makes stupid remarks like this in a desperate attempt to seem smart and knowledgeable, all while disparaging anything that may be positive.

AngelicIceDiamond4086d ago

"It was reported that it will come bundled with a camera last week."

That's the part that worries me. It was inevitable, its apparent Sony wants that share of the market. Officially.

poopsack4086d ago

If the cost is the same then whats to worry? Its better they include it with every console from the beginning rather than release it down the line and invest money to support it, only to have it fall flat because not everyone has one. It makes for better integration and support, and turns it into something Sony doesnt have to worry about getting into people's houses separately, so they can focus better on their games. They're going to go for that market either way, but this is the best way to go about it.

BLAKHOODe4086d ago

Same here. I guess I would have easily been labeled an "Xbox fanboy" once upon a time, but then Xbox became all about Kinect and ruined it for me. So, now I play PS3. I'm super excited for the PS4, but if it becomes another "Kinect", I just might have to give up video games and read a book.

evilhasitsway4086d ago

well sony did have the camera before ms even started using there kinect crap.

sak5004086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

@evilhas

The crap you're talking about is the pseye toy right?

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Pillsbury14086d ago

They are advertising on YouTube. This has to be something BIG (ps4) if they are paying to advertise the event.

Dee_914086d ago

The touch pad sounds expensive to me
hopefully its optional.Because if its more than the six axis its gonna be awhile before I can buy a second or third controller.
Man im getting pumped

IAmLee4086d ago

I forgot the wii u invented screens... -___-

yeahokchief4086d ago

blah. i was hoping they'd make the controller more ergonomic like the gamecube and 360 controller.

all a touchscreen is going to do is drive up the cost of the console.

im disappointed.

Matt06114086d ago

218 disagrees has to be a record, right?

zeee4086d ago

I think I am one of those who like both DS3 and 360 controller. Perhaps because I have both the consoles? Not sure but I don't think that either of them are perfect.

360 controller at times feel too big and too heavy and no, I don't have small hands. Also, sometimes my left thumb would get tired but that was not a big deal. The biggest problem that I had with 360 controller was the D-PAD. Try playing fighting games that involve D-PAD more than the sticks and you'll know what I am talking about. So I hope that Microsoft will change that in the next controller design. I am still using the controller that came with my Xbox back in 2009 so maybe the new ones are better? Though I can't say as I haven't tried the new ones. Also, I think they should ditch the AA batteries in favor of rechargeable ION battery. Should help reduce the weight of the controller.

Sony needs to work on DS3 controllers as well. The analog sticks could be moved a bit further apart? Not sure if that's a good idea but I think Sony should experiment with a few new ideas.

Also, the L2 and R2 should have triggers like 360 controller.

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of touch pads. I'd hate to accidentally touch a button only to stop a game or bring up the menu screen in the middle of battle. These days the menu screens of different games do not really pause a game, it just brings up the menu while the game is running in the background.

This is my personal, unbiased view of course. I can't wait to see what both SONY and Microsoft bring to the table. I so want to move to the next-gen consoles!!!

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SonyNGP4087d ago

the 20th cannot come soon enough. i cant wait for real next gen and i cant wait for ps4

EliteDave934087d ago

To be honest, I have a feeling it might be something about Gikai. But who knows.

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GribbleGrunger4086d ago

The question is, will it actually be a touch-pad or a touch-screen? There would be many uses for a touch-screen because it could display things like Trophies, messaging or even a small keyboard... The problem of course is cost. One more week of speculation and we'll all know for certain!

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Sharius4087d ago

"that the L2 and R2 buttons have been remodelled for the better"

oh, really, then i will miss the day that when i put down my controller to check up my phone and the last thing i saw is my character beat the f*ck out of the NPC with heavy attack in dark souls

DivineAssault 4087d ago

happened to me too lol.. Hated that cuz i would have to shut it of but yet they attack me when i turn it on still.. That sucked

StockpileTom4087d ago

or heavy attack off a ledge to your death lol!

Abdou234087d ago

Or throw a grenade in battlefield

Cam9774087d ago

Don't remind me, that happened to me in DaS and DeS.

MetalProxy4086d ago

that thing happened to me in darksouls. It was a very important blacksmith npc :(

Nicaragua4086d ago

Lol, I had the exact same thing happen at the blacksmith - I went nuts !

FunAndGun4086d ago

lol, I hit that merchant lady in the sewer on Dark Souls because of that!! Then she ran away and wouldn't sell me anything. I had to farm like 40,000 souls to absolve my sins by that dude in the clock tower. What a mistake that was!

ZoyosJD4086d ago

LOL...Any time I was near an NPC I set my controller down upside down when I had to as most of the time running off a cliff would be a more viable option than hitting an NPC.

-Alpha4086d ago

I killed the Onion Knight (Siegmeyer of Catarina) and the Crestfallen Warrior because of this :'(

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USMC_POLICE4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Good I'm sick of using L1 and R1 to shoot and aim in battlefield.

r214087d ago

The L2 and R2 being remodeled, not the L1 and R1 buttons. Thankfully, this means for PS4 we wont be getting accidents when placing down the controller.

USMC_POLICE4087d ago

i was saying because the current L2 and R2 buttons are bad battlefield makes us use L1 and R1. so if the buttons are made better like the 360's back buttons maybe battlefield 4 will let me use L2 and R2.

GribbleGrunger4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Or slippage when sweaty. God, that drives me nuts.

Persistantthug4086d ago

How about button mapping?

Can't be that hard to do.

mastemikegee4086d ago

Shouldn't EVERY game allow that to some extent?

I loved how fallout allowed me to customize my button layout.

Some games don't even have multiple layouts let alone custom!

If I'm not comfortable with the default controls and i dont have an option to change them, the frustration could lead me to stop playing the game.

JamieL4086d ago

I was surprised at how many games out there don't even have a southpaw option. I was a everyday average right-handed American minding my own business, until the day I decided to drive my motorcycle into the side of an SUV that pulled out in front of me (not my fault & still didn’t get paid). I lost the complete use of my right arm, and for a long time all I could play is Skyrim on PS3, because I could map the buttons how I wanted. I put the right attack, and left attack on the R3 & L3 buttons so I could walk, look around, and attack with one hand. It was handy as hell. There are almost no other games that do this, and many don't even have alternate set ups. I definitely feel for the lefty's out there, and think it should be standard with all games.

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Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow19h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos7h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos5h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje5h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon5h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola2h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola2h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum1h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad4h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola2h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos2h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai4h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK3h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh3h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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FACTUAL evidence9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville4m ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.