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PlayStation 4 Are You Willing To Pay $600 For It? Shut Up and Take My…Wait How Much?

GamerFitNation's CEO Antwand Pearman AKA BlackBible asks if you're willing to pay $600 dollars for the PlayStation 4.On February 20th, 2013 Pearman will be attending the Sony press event to see if the rumors of the PlayStation 4 are true or false. He won’t be able to conduct an on camera interviews.So Pearman thought it would be awesome if he could ask, you the gaming community your thoughts on his opinions. In this video Pearman pose the question “Are you willing to pay another $600 price tag?”

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mandf4088d ago

I did it once and I'll do it again. No questions.

GalacticEmpire4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

It depends on if I feel I'm getting enough tech for my money. The PS3 was a fantastic games machine coupled with a Bluray player, which at the time were expensive, so I felt I easily got my monies worth there.

raytraceme4087d ago

You guys gotta understand that after inflation $600 in 2006 is really almost $700 now. That actually means that for if the ps4 is $500 than its almost $200 cheaper than the ps3. Though with the specs leaked I honestly don't expect to pay over $400.

guitarded774087d ago

Sony said they wouldn't do that again, and I don't expect them to charge that again.

aCasualGamer4087d ago

I'll pay 600$ yes, i don't want to... but if i have to i will. Why?

Because this is my favorite hobby apart from working out. It's my lifestyle. It's a part of who i am. And i'll gladly put in a 600$ investment every 7 years. What people don't realize is that spread out over seven years, that's about 85$ a year. I pay 200$ a year for my gym membership and i'll gladly pay that aswell cause it's part of who i am and it's my hobby.

Now... i'll ask again. Do i want to? No, i wish it was free. I'm a realist though, and i know Sony would collapse as a company if they sold it for 5$. That's the last thing i want, to see the gaming industry crumble and die.

So, will i pay 600$? Yes, if i have to. I'm ready for nextgen gaming, and i'm willing to invest.

Thank you come again!

Dylila4087d ago

i would gladly pay 600 for a ps4 if its worth it with cutting edge technology and very powerful. getting ps4 first day. why would i even think twice about sony ps4 when all their other consoles were cutting edge and powerful and more than worth the price.

i cant wait for ps4

Temporary4087d ago

I'll fork over 600 for a PS4 with no question. It's an investment that if you can afford, is well worth it. I bought a PS3 at launch for their price and I dont regret it one bit. I know i'm getting quality hardware and quality games with my Playstation for the next decade, so 600 dollars is nothing.

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Kevin ButIer4087d ago

600 dls price point would make sense if they add a 1 yr subscription to ps+... however, I don't think sony will push that price. No blu ray troy horse this time...

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andibandit4087d ago

Completely depends on the specs and the lineup of games.
Also it must carry games i can play in coop with my wife.

Irishguy954087d ago

I'll wait till it's 400 and has alot of games on it. Unless it's launch line up is so amazing that I simply have to get it.

Legion4087d ago

@raytraceme

I see what you did there. You threw out figures and then slipped in the new price quote of $500 instead of the talked about $600 and perceived a $200 savings based on faulty inflation logic.

You do realize we are in an economic downfall and virtual recession in the making so the inflation point is mute.

Not to mention that the price of the previous PS3 system was considered ridicules then.

Some people can't even afford bread on their tables these days. So the thoughts of saving due to historical inflation is laughable.

I know I have lost 20% spending power with retirement earnings in the past 3 years alone. That is all due to the power of the dollar dropping so much. (though obviously my situation does not fit that of all gamers)

decrypt4087d ago

Pay that much for a low-mid range locked down PC..

no thx.

scofios4087d ago

When it comes to paying 600 for a console people are fast to complain.

But spending 600 for a phone (Iphone / galaxy) seems to be no problem.

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darthv724087d ago

I've paid upwards of $600 for various systems throughout the years. Most notable ones: Neo Geo AES, 3DO, Pioneer LaserActive.

With the exception of the AES, the other two obviously werent worth it. They make good collectors pieces (especially the LaserActive) but I would not go that route again.

Hell, i didnt even pay $400 for my 80gb BC PS3.

LOGICWINS4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

What if they bundled it with a Vita and a year of PS Plus? Would you buy it then for $600? I would.

EDIT: Black, you were on CNN? Is the vid on Youtube?

nirwanda4087d ago

I loved my 3DO road rash, and need for speed, I felt alot more ripped off with my CD32.

NastyLeftHook04087d ago

i agree, yes i would pay 600 again. i bought 2 at 600 bucks online.

user39158004087d ago

I thought they failed at it onced? The machine its worth that much actually, but they have to sale it at a lost if they want to stay competitive, its what ms will do with 720, they sold the first xbox at a lost. The question is, will sony be able to afford a huge lost from sales of the hardware? Well, cough, cough, cough... I think they have been loosing money for the past 6 years, why not loose some more.

mi_titan274087d ago

"sale it at a lost?" who lost the sale?, is money tight right now so the need to loosen it up (loosing money)

nirwanda4087d ago

Most consoles have sold at a loss and made the money back later on, it usally take about 2 years before they make a profit.
Look at the kindle fire as another example, sold at a loss made money though apps and ads.

nirwanda4087d ago

Ha ha i read it wrong twice.

Anon19744087d ago

I'd wait until the price came down. $400 is the sweet spot for me, even though I paid $500 and $600 for my 360 and PS3 respectively. I've got enough games in my library currently to last me another couple of years, not even counting games I want to play but just haven't ponied up for yet. I'm in no rush to replace either console. I'm excited to see what the next gen offers, but I'm in absolutely no hurry to jump onboard.

insomnium24087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

LOL the rational person in me thinks exactly alike but come launch day the child in me might force me to act differently. My backlog is miiiiiles long and I still need to replay many old classics. I'm set for a decade ffs but like I said come launch day I might not be able to control myself. My god I remember how it went with the PS3 so I'm not holding my breath for this one.......

Lior4087d ago

You can buy a decent gaming pc for that much which performs better with a gtx 650 which is leaps and bounds better than the rumored specs of both next gen consoles and running with an i5 3.2ghz proccesor

Caffo014087d ago

but you couldn't play the awesome ps4 exclusives..

jetlian4087d ago

A console will never need to be exactly like a pc to beat it. Crysis 1 on pc needed 1 gig ram to run it on low settings yet a console with half the ram could run medium settings.

also the consoles predate crysis the game by 1-2 years

papashango4087d ago

But then you'd be able to play the even better pc exclusives

broken_back-man4087d ago

you must notunderstand the difference between counsles and pc no pc could run kz3 or uncharted 3 or ev3n the last of us on 7 year old hardware and on 512 mb of memory haha your comments are invalid buddy!!!

CrustifiedDibbs4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

why do consolers think old pc hardware cant run current games? optimization only goes so far. you dont need current high end pc hardware to get console quality graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

i would pay 600 for a console with specs that are worth it, but judging by the rumored specs, its not worth it.

Dasteru4087d ago

@jetlian:

Optimization does help but that was a bad example.

The console version of Crysis 1 was made with Cryengine 3 which was basically CE2 light.

It was heavily stripped down to work on consoles and neither the 360 nor PS3 versions looked even half as good as the PC version on the lowest settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

ps3_pwns4087d ago

no red dead redemption, ni no kuni, and gta 5 for you then. most pc exclusives are just the same mmo's and stuff no one wants. Console game devs are just better is why pc gamers been crying for console games on the pc all the time. Nintendo exclusives alone destroys pc exclusives dont even get me started on adding the ps3/x360 exclusives.

Its only so many times you can play the same skyrim type rpgs, sims games before its like meh pc need to make something better then these rag tag generic games. everything just looks like skyrim on the pc lol. WoW, the witcher 2, insert random game name.

jetlian4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

more like this dasteru

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

pc looks washed out and most people now use texture packs on crysis and dont know or remember what it really looked like in 07

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muttley654087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

ARE YOU FU'KING NUTS??? 600 AGAIN?? NO WAY 399-450 YES.
@ BITBY

Sony OUT BID for bluray to beat MICROSOFT HD-DVD NOTHING COME ON THE MARKET FREE!!

slapedurmomsace4087d ago

I did it once, and it wasn't worth it, no questions. Of course that is solely because the launch line up was eh', and the first year was turrible in terms of software. If the software is up to snuff, and there is no 1 year shortage I'd have no problem doing it again however. The moment pre orders are avaliable, put the $50 down and pay $50 everytime I get paid and by the time it launches, I have a new system with 4 or 5 games, and no uh oh, where the hell did that $800 go problem. Plus if the line up does suck, you can always get your money back, or put it towards something else.

Kinger89384087d ago

Same! Got an ipad recently and they are £470 so would pay more for a home console

GuyThatPlaysGames4087d ago

I paid $1,000 for mine 2 days after launch because I just had to have one. No big deal.

Flavor4087d ago

Twice burned, once a fool.

0ut1awed4087d ago

Shit, I have no problem paying whatever the price tag is. You know why? Because I am preording it, getting it day one, and selling it for 5 times+ what I paid. :D

The average price of the 360/ps3 was $3-4000 on ebay during the launch weeks. I have a top of the line gaming pc so I think I can wait the extra month or two to buy another one.

lilbrat234087d ago

I don't think it will happen I think that was one of the reasons it did not sell well at first was the price. I hope Sony learned their lesson and maybe it will be less then $400. But who knows.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

If it's near a high end pc and can be upgraded yes. Otherwise no.
$600+ for static hardware? nah..

BlmThug4087d ago

My opinion is, I would rather they price it at $600 than price it lower but skimp on parts

007Bond4087d ago

Mommy gonna buy it for you? Hell no am I wasting 600 on a video game machine, I work long shifts for my money F that

joab7774087d ago

I agree. i want to support Sony. I just worry about their non video game divisions. I will pay more if the money is used to support the ps4 so the loss they initially take is mitigated and can be used to make great games. I just wish they could figure out the rest so i had more confidence in their company as a whole. But yeah, $600 isnt so bad. My only worry is the xbox price and i dont want the ps4 to become too expensive for gamers again. It isnt outof the realm of possibilities that microsoft does a mobile phone type contract. 199$ and a monthly subscription. Ppl have proven that they will buy anything and pay monthly for it.

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mushroomwig4088d ago

It won't be $599, Sonys lessons have been learned.

BitbyDeath4087d ago

Not really a lesson learned, Sony were still losing money even at $600 and it paid off. (Blu-ray won)

Shouldn't be that high this time around unless they decide to bundle in some other new tech like VR.

BitbyDeath4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Blu-ray beat out HD-DVD and secured its place in the market.

Blu-ray was a huge part of why the PS3 cost as much as it did because at the time a blu-ray player cost more than the PS3 itself.

darthv724087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

not exactly. Stand alone players were cheaper than a PS3. Even sony's own line of BDP units were less but that was the intention. The PS3 was aimed at trying to capture the market like the PS2 did for DVD.

Back then, the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player but it wasnt the same for the PS3. There were more makers and the competition between HD formats drove prices lower in a quicker amount of time than back in the DVD days.

Remember, there wasnt really a competitor to DVD other than VHS so the conveniences that DVD offered were what kept it more expensive until the adoption rate was sufficient for even more companies to commit to releasing movies on the format.

Blu was bound to win because Sony was more than just the backbone on the format but a major content provider. They didnt have the studios under their wing back in the DVD days. They didnt acquire them until many years later. There is no chance sony was going to let Blu suffer the same fate as Beta and they made sure of that by securing deals with other studios by using the PS brand as leverage.

It worked in the end but nowhere near the rate that Sony was expecting. That could be attributed to the number of companies that were in the race to lower stand alone players. Sony lost out from one perspective (market share) but won from another (format success).

BitbyDeath4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

@Darth, It's hard to find prices now but here's some examples of what one cost back in 2006.

Samsung Blu-ray - $999.99.
http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

Sony Blu-ray - $1,000
http://bluray.highdefdigest...

PS3 was $600.

It wasn't until June of 2007 til Sony was able to reduce the price.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...

No doubt the PS3 highly contributed to allowing Sony to reduce the price of the tech so quickly.

Flavor4087d ago

Blu ray won.. I can't remember the last physical disc I purchased...

Physical media is so last century.

JamieL4087d ago

I know Blu-Ray won, but "pays off" suggest to me that it made them money, and that has not happened yet. I don't want to sound anti-Sony, but I don't see how the PS3 paid off at all. It seems to have been more of a problem for Sony, to me. It's really too bad seeing as how Sony has the best stance on what gaming should be from a gamers perspective. Sony does focus on bringing out new fresh new IP's, lots of games, and that should be commended, I don't know why that strategy fails so hard, but they do try.

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SeanScythe4088d ago

Sadly I don't think I could do something like that again...I've got more bills now then I did when I got the PS3. As much as I would love to be a first adopter I won't be able to do that if it's $600. Now if it's $599 or less I should be good to go. :)

SAE4087d ago

You will be able to buy the ps4 if it is 1 dollar less then 600$?..LOL. I hope it's a mistake or a joke xD..

SeanScythe4087d ago

Yeah it was a joke I'm not even talking about the $50 tax and games needed to even play it. I'm just hoping they don't drop a $600 price tag. Hell I see them doing two models again $499 and $399.

I would like to see the Dualshock controller stay since I'm used to it. What they could do is say for people that will simply be upgrading from PS3 to PS4 you can use the same controller and we will sell just a console without a controller. That would be $50 less on the price tag. But I;m sure they want money for whatever new changers they make to the controller.

Maybe this time it splits and can be used as a motion control, that's how move should have been.

SolidDuck4087d ago

Ya people bash the ps3's $600 price tag but I think a lot of them foget that stand alone blu ray players at the time were $500 plus. So it all depends on the tech.

LOGICWINS4087d ago

Take a $2 million Ferrari for example. Say you got a special deal where you could get it for $500,000. Thats a great value because your getting a 75% discount. Still, $500,000k for a car is too expensive for 99% of people.

Just because something is a good bargain doesn't mean that people can AFFORD to take advantage of that bargain.

For instance, even if the PS4s tech was future proof for the next 15 years, an $800 PS4 wouldn't fly off the shelves EVEN if the tech justified the price point.

Conzul4087d ago

You make a good point but the numbers in your final example are all wrong. People will spend that on a phone or tablet that lasts a year......and if PS4 somehow magically was going to last 15 years, it WOULD fly off the shelves @ $800

LOGICWINS4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

^^You put too much faith in the intellect of American consumers. This coming from an American consumer.

Just because people are willing to spend $500-$600 on an Apple tablet doesn't mean they're willing to spend that kind of money on other electronics. That assumption is ludicrous.

Operating under your reasoning, the Vita should be selling TWICE as much as an Ipad since its half the price...not the case in the real world.

You forget that price isn't the ONLY factor that people go by when making purchases. Brand recognition, word of mouth, and advertising play an even BIGGER role than price. THATS why Apple can release a tablet at double the price of Vita or PS4 and STILL smoke both saleswise VERY easily.

Dude why do you think Macbooks outsell Vaio laptops even though Vaios are cheaper? The argument that people who spend $600 on an IPAD are EQUALLY willing to spend $600 on a console is played it. Theres so much evidence out there that contradicts that theory.

Conzul4087d ago

Guess I'll have to concede since Sony's marketing is so atrocious. [non-existent]

LOGICWINS4087d ago

Sony will improve for next gen though. I hear they hired a new marketing company.

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KwietStorm_BLM4087d ago

The problem is too many people confuse value with price. The value of the PS3 was never in question. The price, simply was too high for many people, for what is primarily a game console. Even myself, a long time gamer and everything PlayStation owner, didn't get my first PS3 until it was $500, and that's still up there. I want a PS4 at launch, but not for $600, not that I expect it to be that price anyway. Another thing people don't understand is manufacturing costs. I've heard countless people say Sony was stupid for pricing the PS3 so high, not realizing they were losing $300 on every unit. The price tag was a result of what was inside. Being that they appear to be going with more modern, yet still powerful, tech this time around, I think the initial price should be reasonable.

ps3_pwns4087d ago

yeah i remeber when people who knew blueray was superior and what the world needed yet they were fanboys so they got the HD dvd movie format thing for the x360. this is why we cant have nice things in the world. people will sell there soul for crap things in time of war instead of just doing the right thing and getting blueray.

Fel084087d ago

If they price their new console anything above 400 bucks, they will be setting themselves up for failure. The fanboys will be first in line to buy it no matter how much it costs, but the general public won't be paying more than 400 bucks for it.

Conzul4087d ago

That would only be true if Sony continues to fail at marketing in the US

madjedi4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

@fel

$400 is the absolute minimum price point of either next gen consoles and likely $500 is the absolute highest price point either will see.

How the fuck do you know, have you done any polling at gamestops across the us?

I'll still buy it at $500, but i don't expect anything higher than $450.

Like hardcore 360 fans, will be any different when the 720 is released numbnuts.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow110h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos7h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos5h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje5h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon6h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum8h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola3h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola2h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum2h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad5h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola3h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos3h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai4h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK4h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh4h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville47m ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.