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Let's Be Honest: Nintendo Was Not Ready To Launch Wii U

This is not another article saying how crappy the Wii U is. I personally have one and enjoy it. It's their best made console since the N64. It is just so blatantly obvious that Nintendo launched their console too early in order to beat out their competitors. In all honesty, they should have waited and prepared their best features even if that meant releasing the following year.

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PopRocks3594083d ago

I can admit as well, the launch did feel somewhat rushed. I mean it was initially going to launch around March of that year, I think, until it was pushed back to the holidays.

But I still don't believe it was bad. It had a lot of content, ports or otherwise. And games like Nintendo Land and ZombiU are actually good games. It's just a shame there was no big Zelda game or another AAA title to really get the units moving.

Studio-YaMi4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

Does it really have that much content ? I have the WiiU,only bought 3 games,Nintendo land,super mario brother U and Zombie U(which isn't that good tbh) and I feel short !

It's not too bad by any means but it's still lacking lots of content,especially video games ! I wanted to play First party exclusives and all I got was 3 games with only 2 of them being fun to play.

Yes,I hold most of the blame for buying the console knowing that there wasn't that much content with it,but the point stands,the WiiU needs quality games and needs them fast .. I want my Mario Kart fix DAMMIT !

I say to people wanting to buy it,give the console a couple of months when good games comes out for it .. then buy it.

It's a great experience and I love the new controller,it's just lacking content right now.

jmc88884083d ago

It has quite a bit of content. People just want DIFFERENT content.

Even though the same will be said on the PS4/720, as you'll get the same games on the 360/PS3 mostly as well.

It also depends on what kind of gaming system you have besides or before the Wii U. If you just had a Wii, there is an epic amount of games.

If you're like me and have a PS3/360/PC, then many of the titles you've already played or passed on, and on the newer ones you might have chosen a different version. Personally I got the BLOPS2 on the Wii U. No nuketown and lack of players sucks but the gamepad makes it really fun to call down killstreaks (even if you are using a pro controller).

How many games do people think they should be able to get on a new console 20-30 that they actually want to play?

I remember getting the 360 and going great I have Perfect Dark Zero...and what else is there?? Oh I'll buy Gun. Call of Duty 2 imo sucked. It really wasn't until march-april when it started hitting its stride.

When PS3 came out it was basically my Resistance Fall of Man machine.

This is just what new consoles do. It takes awhile for a flood of games to come out. Sometimes it's worse than others, but Wii U's launch isn't that bad game wise.

Gazondaily4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

Well I bought quite a few Wii U's hoping to cash in on them but had to send them back because Amazon never really sold out.

I did feel that the whole launch felt rushed. Not a lot of people knew about the Wii U at all and still don't to this day.

darthv724083d ago

pretty much every console launch can be looked at as rushed...after the fact. I can see the emphasis would be on the new games but one aspect that nintendo didnt really drive home was that people could play all of their existing wii games on it.

We (the informed gamers) know this but the uninformed consumers (the ones who bought the wii as part of the trend) did not. To them they didnt see the wii-u as something new and different. They probably felt content with their initial purchase.

Looking at something like the 3ds, its ability to play ds games was apparent from the beginning but (again) nintendo didnt focus on that convenience. So after some time, the price comes down to where a new buyer would look at both the ds and 3ds and the small price difference leaned them more towards picking up the 3ds to play both.

I cant recall what it was exactly but it was obviously enough to convince consumers that buying the 3ds OVER the ds was the better choice. Nintendo should be doing the same for the wii-u.

buying a wii-u doesnt suddenly mean you have to stop playing wii games. you can play them in addition to wii-u games. Whoever is in their marketing department needs to really rethink that part. Consumers are wanting more for their $$. I mean what is more than the hundreds of existing wii games (and wiiware) being readily available to someone who buys a wii-u. It certainly fills a need when it comes to the amount of playable games for the platform.

Looking back, even sony touted the BC of the ps2 with ps1 games as a selling point. People didnt have to give up their library when they upgraded their system.

eferreira4083d ago

most launches are pretty weak but the vita had a decent one

user39158004083d ago

Please. lets not come up with excuses to established a good relation with your sale and money wasted. I bought one for my son and to be honest, I regrte buying that over hyped GARBAGE... Maybe it gets better with new games, but right now its a paper weight, not to mention its compatible with 360 and ps3, problem is they are 7 years behind. They should bite the bullet and stop production and bring a console for next gen competition the 720/ps4. Out of all the hardware they ever made, this is by far their worth mistake on the consoles business, this is another virtual boy.

ahronith4083d ago

Huh, thats funny cuz im always on mine...playing games while kids use the tv, chatting on miiverse, drawing, and pretty much using it more than my wife would like to admit.

jmc88884083d ago

Wow simply wow.

360 and PS3 that you are talking about had the same problem when they launched. Did you buy one of those early on? If you had, you would have seen the same thing and understood this to be the case.

Also PS4 and 720 will only be 3x and 2x as powerful if the rumors are true...which means not too much. They closed 2/3rds of the gap between the Wii and the 360/PS3 with the Wii U and the PS4/720.

Virtual boy was just bad. Gave me headaches at the local blockbuster. EVerything was also red, and the games sucked.

If you chose to play Assassin's Creed 3 or BLOPS2 on another system then those are games you could have been playing on the Wii U.

NSMBU is great game. ZombiU is good.

Looks like you're going to be really disappointed with 'next gen'. It's not going to microwave your food for you and rub your back.

PopRocks3594083d ago

"Please. lets not come up with excuses to established a good relation with your sale and money wasted."

My, my. Look at how mature and courteous you are. Your mother ought to be proud. /s

Gamer19824083d ago

The WiiU was 2-3 years late. It should have capitalized 3 years ago before any ps4 and 720 talk really started getting going. then people may have chose it over current gen consoles.

rainslacker4083d ago

I didn't feel it was rushed. We knew about this thing for two E3's, and knew for the most part what it was going to be. I do kind of feel that the majority of 3rd party support came in late to supporting it however, and now that long term support is being called into question, although I'm sure it will have more than people are giving it credit for.

The system itself isn't bad at all, but the lack of really compelling software for the moment is making me think I could have waited to get one.

On a side note, I am the proud new owner of a 3DS XL.:) Can't wait to get Fire Emblem in the mail.:)

monkey nuts4082d ago

Sign up to club nintendo asap! I got to choose a free retail game download when I bought my 3DS xl and signed up. Theres 6 or so titles to choose from, I got SM3D Land. Epic game, and the lasy ninty console I bought was the N64.

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LOL_WUT4083d ago

If only Nintendo could've held off the Wii U till this years holidays, they would've had some of their key franchises ready by then Smash bros, Zelda, Yoshi and a new 3D Mario game.

Even though it might've competed with other unannounced hardware (PS4/720) it would've made it a killer launch. ;)

Gamer19824083d ago

Holding off would have done nothing the games needed to be ready for launch I agree but they should have been out last year..

dangert124083d ago

Nintendo has become really ignorant if you ask me, they refuse to accept the people who have made them big way back have grown up now and are more capable, so is tech and the people know this...now im not saying none of us like nintendos new games far from as even i like them...but outside of mario and the gang they dont give a ish but we the fans do! so now they are digging themself a hole

TheWhyButton4083d ago

Personally, I think Nintendo does a heck of a better job at acknowledging the fans than Sony or Microsoft. It's not rare for them to give away free games, or games at a great discount (similar to how they are doing the 30 cent retro games every month). If you get their consoles early on, then they almost always reward you. I bought a 3ds on release day, and when the price drop happened a month later I was pretty disappointed until I found out about they were giving me 20 free games for the inconvenience. Now I'm getting great retro games for 30 cents and I can't complain with that. I feel like Nintendo is probably the most down to earth company out of the three becasue of deals like these, but I guess that's just me.

dangert124083d ago

That's fair enough, but i honestly think sony has a competitor for Nintendos big games and most the time PERSONALLY sony come out on top.

Modnation VS Mario Kart
LBP VS Super Mario Bros
(Kind of Comparable) Ratchet and Clank Vs Mario Galaxy.
PS All Stars Vs Brawl

i could go on but sony has direct competitors for Nintendos games where as the more mature games Nintendo only really have metroid and Disaster day of Crysis...So sony takes the cake for me and no service compares to plus...even cheap retro games lol

zebramocha4083d ago

@danger wrong! Lbp has nothing in common with Mario other than that they are platformers,lbp and modnation are the same game different genre,only one that kinda makes sense is pasbr, Sony had the crash series of games that went head to head everything Mario.

Old McGroin4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

@ dangert12

Wow, by your comment above saying that Sony come out on top with the exclusives you named you've clearly never played any of the Nintendo games. If you did you would know that they make the Sony exclusives you name look like the mediocre clones that they are.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

"Personally, I think Nintendo does a heck of a better job at acknowledging the fans than Sony"

lol maybe when it comes to hand held or something.

Nintendo wont capture the hardcore crowd..

They need a new just dance fast.

neogeo4083d ago

I agree. I get excited to get home from work and play wiiU.

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schlanz4083d ago

I think its the core crowd who is ignorant. Mass market could give two shits about specs. All they want is a great user experience and fun games, and that is what Nintendo delivers for all of its systems regardless of horsepower.

It's the same strategy Apple employs. The iPhone 5 is hardly the most impressive device on the market but the people buying it don't care about that. It's a device that stands on its own and doesn't need the fastest processor or highest pixel density. The Wii U (and its predecessor, which was wildly successful) takes the same approach.

mochachino4083d ago

Mass market aka casuals couldn't give a shit about paying more than 1.99 for videogame.

Mass market is playing on their phones, tablets, browser, and facebook.

Wii was like a gateway drug, but they found better dealers with cheaper product that satisfies their needs just fine.

schlanz4082d ago

You're wrong about that. The mass market might not be as clued in to the industry and all the AAA games that get released but they can certainly tell the difference between angry birds and Super Mario Galaxy.

If there is a developer out there that continues to resonate with the mass market its Nintendo, and its why many of their flagship series go on to sell millions. The Wii sold over 800 million games, four times as much as the gamecube, so you can't attribute that to just Nintendo fanboys.

TongkatAli4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

^
Free games suck for the Sony haters. "bu but you pay 50$" and you pay 60$ for each new console game, lol fail. I'm happy with the Wii U what do you expect FROM A THREE MONTH OLD CONSOLE, common sense please noobs.

Venoxn4g4083d ago

yea, it was rushed, still I love my Wii U..console has potential and I know that after some time everything will be fine

TheWhyButton4083d ago

My thoughts exactly, I still have faith in the little guy!

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.