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Pachter on the PlayStation 4, Cloud gaming and the damage multiplayer is doing to the industry

Digitally Downloaded writes: "Here at Digitally Downloaded, we recently got in touch with notorious business analyst Michael Pachter ahead of the apparent PlayStation 4 announcement scheduled for February 20th. We spoke to him regarding his expectations and perspectives on the PS4 as well as its potential impact on Sony, the next generation and the video-games market as a whole, as well as clarifying a typical example of him being misquoted by an overly enthusiastic press. As you can guess we gathered some remarkably thoughtful responses."

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Dylila4091d ago (Edited 4091d ago )

michael pachter -
" I didn't say the word "hyper-realistic;" that was a NeoGAF interpretation. I said "capable of rendering 240 fps" as an example to a business reporter of what a four-fold increase in data processing could mean. The people who found that comment offensive are clearly just unhappy people with nothing better to do or games to play namely nintendo fanboys. Specifically, I said a four-fold increase in processing power, and simply multiplied 60 fps by four to illustrate the point. I do not expect games to be made that fast, as elaborated above, because I don't think it will add much to the experience. As my idol Jamie Kennedy says, "haters gonna hate" no matter what I say"

i cant wait for ps4 announcement and to own my own ps4.

GameLord084091d ago

"...games to play namely nintendo fanboys. "

He never said this. Don't alter things to your taste when quoting an article.

Qrphe4091d ago

Although he should already know that most of his comments go under great scrutiny, saying that the PS4 could do 240fps was a poor way of conveying its power to begin with (PS3 could do 240fps if you run a game on just wireframes and low resolution).

TheGamerDood4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

Oh but he did say that.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp...

“They’ll be able to put a lot more characters on the screen and allow for hyper-realistic games,” Pachter said.

GribbleGrunger4090d ago

LOL ... is it worth it? naaaaaaaaaa ...

Please continue.

nukeitall4090d ago

Sometimes the media quotes another source, that quoted a misquoted article and so on.

TheGamerDood4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

@Nukeitall

Is that why I'm getting disagrees? lol You people think it's a misquote? I did a quick google search to try and find the source and all other articles sited the JPTimes...it IS the original source! Also he didn't say that the interviewer misquoted him, he blamed it on NeoGaf.

And here's the thread on Gaf responding to the idiotic 240fps claim.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

oh look, here's the sub to N4G and guess what, it links to...wait for it.... the JPTimes!
http://n4g.com/news/1166419...

checkout GribbleGrunger's comment, he actually thought 240fps was possible! lol

"Great analogy there Darkride66, and I agree with the points you've made"

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4090d ago

Even Patcher knows that USA>Rest of the World.

"
The Japanese market is no longer as important, and Western markets are far more important."

That's why whoever wins USA, really wins it all.

Suck it rest of World! USA>You! :D ;)

Qrphe4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

USA != "Western Markets"

I'm so sorry the education system has failed you.

If you would have wanted to make a better point, it would have been more wise to choose a better quote from the article if anything.

Conzul4090d ago

midnight here is not representative of the intelligence level of most Americans. Tact, maybe, but not intelligence. Ignore him.

PickAShoe4090d ago

Go home miDnIghtEr, you're drunk.

akaakaaka4090d ago

hey Dylila PM your number ;) i'm from LA..

on topic quote of the day "hatters are going to hate"

deSSy27244090d ago

Well, you are just a Sony fanboy, normal Sony fans dont act like that...

240 FPS and maxed out settings aka "next gen graphics" (whatever) cant do even the best PC to this date with new games. You can have that much FPS with very old games OR low graphics settings etc. You get the point, for relatively cheap price that isnt possible at all....

SuperShyGuy4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

@ Dylila

michael pachter -
" I didn't say the word "hyper-realistic;" that was a NeoGAF interpretation."

Yeah he is a lair and just trying to not look stupid

http://www.bloomberg.com/ne...

-"“They’ll be able to put a lot more characters on the screen and allow for hyper-realistic games,” Pachter said."-

You are a hypocrite Dylila with your "PS4 day 1" talk and you haven't even seen the console nor games and yet have nerve to be critical of Nintendo fans

Also lol Jamie Kennedy! When was the last time he was relevant? 2002?

Edit lol GAF thread after he blamed them
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

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KwietStorm_BLM4091d ago

That look on his face is exactly how I look every time I see another Pachter article.

NegativeCreep4274090d ago

The look on his face is the same look I have when I'm sitting on the toilet after a night of tequila and Baja Fresh.

ramtah4091d ago

People still listen to this idiot?

PickAShoe4090d ago

lets narrow that down, people who has nothing to do.

solid_warlord4091d ago

This guy is such an ugly looking man. Is there any reason to show his face, we know how he looks and it isn't pretty so please N4G. Do not post a pic of his face.

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Conzul4090d ago

Looks and intelligence are inversely proportionate.
You dummy.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers6h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g2h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H92h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

SegaSaturn6691h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle51m ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg18h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos17h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola12h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken20d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga20d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken20d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6420d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long20d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197220d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12520d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91320d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer20d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher20d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher20d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken20d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2320d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218320d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder20d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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