Crytek: Next gen launch games 'might not look much different to Crysis 3'

CVG: "Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli doesn't expect there to be much disparity between Crysis 3 and the first wave of games for the next Xbox and PlayStation consoles."

[NukaCola]

LoL, silly Crytek. When Killzone 4 launches this year, you will see the difference, mark me.

[e-p-ayeaH]

killzone 4 this year...very unlikely

[ABizzel1]

Actually it's very likely considering Killzone 3 was their last game back in 2011, and with the PS4 rumored specs. basically making it a mid range gaming PC.

With those rumored specs. Sony and MS has significantly less optimization they have to do to get games running on their consoles, because they're so close to being off the shelf PC's, which is why game development will not increase significantly in cost, and games will be developed much faster than last gen.

That being said I hope it's not Killzone 4, but a new IP. I enjoyed Killzone, but the PS3 top franchises need a quick rest and let the new PS4 trilogy's and franchises start things off holiday 2013, and kick in with the known IP's throughout 2014. I'm ready for something new, before diving back into games I already know so well after 2+ releases on PS360.

[Gaming101]

Evidently there are rumours of a Killzone 4 this year, but really who knows.

And yeah, Crysis 3 will have its own look on ultra settings due to its different engine, Killzone 4 will look very different which will make it harder to compare the two graphically, it will be down to subjective taste. But really, for a PS4, if you can get Killzone 3 looking like Crysis on Ultra settings, you did it for probably one third the price if the $450 PS4 launch price is to be believed.

[Mounce]

Depends on how long the team of Killzone have had time to work on PS4 hardware, but we have to look at it realistically, PS3 was launched in 2006, Killzone 2 came out in 2009, they needed 3 years to make as great of use with the hardware.

PS4 will be easier to utilize and develop for, but I highly doubt 1-2 years would be great enough to make something that takes GOOD advantage as an exclusive game to be a console benchmark as much as Killzone 2 was for the PS3.

[Ritsujun]

Let's compare the difference between Resistance1 and Resistance2/3, and the difference between between Uncharted1 and Uncharted2/3.

Now let's look at the laughable Crysis2&3 console versions. Crytek? More like Crowntek.
The Crying Crown Technology.

[ShinMaster]

which was worse than Crysis 1.

But they may be right. Like they said, launch games may not look that much better than Crysis 3. But within a year, I'm sure many more games will.

[InMyOpinion]

Killzone 4 pre-rendered trailer perhaps.

If the Crytek 3 MP beta is anything to go by next-gen games will look like crap.

[blitz0623]

Who cares if they don't look much different to Crysis 3. At least most of those games PLAY BETTER. Crysis will forever be a graphics powerhouse with mediocre gameplay

[I_am_Batman]

The thing I hate about Crytek is that they only speak about graphics all the time. I get the feeling they only want to sell their engine.

[shackdaddy]

That's where they get all their money from. So ya, they are...

[ABizzel1]

Yeah that's the main point.

Epic gets the vast majority of their money from licensing the Unreal Engine, and Crytek are trying to do the same thing.

That being said it is a great engine especially considering graphical capabilities, and art style / graphics are an important part of gaming whether we like it or not.

Now my question is does he believe PS4 launch titles will not look much different from Cyrsis 3 on PS3 or on a standard PC? My guess is a standard gaming PC, in which case he's likely right, but IMO that's completely fine because that's still a big jump, with no more blurry textures, better AA, better AI, 1080p resolutions, better framerates, practically no screen tearing, and tessellation FTW.

[Norrison]

@Abizzel1
I think he was talking about the console version
"I don't think Crytek can do more on current generation consoles than Crysis 3."
"I actually think people will be astonished that next gen launch titles from other companies might not be much different from Crysis 3."

[ABizzel1]

@Norrison

I hope not. I can't believe Crysis on consoles is what he's talking about, because if so then people will be disappointed. Crysis 3 looks good on consoles, but compared to PC it's a hot blurry mess.

Hopefully the full version sees some dramatic increases on console, but the current screenshots are like wearing prescription glasses when you don't need them or not having glasses when you do need them.

[SilentNegotiator]

They really don't do anything too impressive on the consoles anyway, and yet talk as if they're experts at console hardware.

[leahcim]

Yeah but their sales number are mediocre

[akaakaaka]

Maybe because Crysis 3 is a first gen, next gen game?

I hope Guerrilla Games is showing their game this 20th!
it will amaze anyone.. even PC gamers and this team.

[joab777]

If next gen launch looks like crysis 3 on ultra settings, that will be fine because its only the beginning. And killzone 4, which releases in2014 will look amazing but it isnt so much of a trick anymore to build for ps4 because the architexture isnt as complex as ps3 was at launch,. But i cant imagine what guerilla and naughty do will be doing in 3-4 yrs when they have had time.

[Intentions]

Lol comparing Crysis to Killzone, what a joke.

[Hellsvacancy]

I know, Crysis 2 sucked, and Crysis 3 doesnt look any better

[ATi_Elite]

Next Console Gen games will look just like Crysis 3 PC and Battlefield 3 PC of today.

So go play BF3 PC or Crysis 3 PC on High/Ultra and you will get a taste of what next console gen games will look like! 1080p 60 fps with some form of AA

to this day I don't understand why "some" consolers think your gonna get something better than what PC Gamers already have when the consoles are basically being made from old PC Hardware.

Perfect Example: The Cell and it's Graphics accelerator along side the X360's 3 core CPU and it's advance R520 GPU were NO Match for the 8800GT that launched shortly after the PS3/360.

PS4 = AMD A-10 APU with low end HD7000 gpu, toss in some cheap ram, a cheap HDD, some Plastic, wires, controller and this should keep you in the $400 to $500 price range.

PS4 will be a very capable machine to pump out Hi-res 1080p games and FINALLY be able to run Crysis on the CryEngine 2. (not that CryEngine 3 remake but the REAL DEAL)

[Norrison]

Don't get delusional, those specs you said won't run bf3 on anything higher than med at 1080p. I think 1080p and 60 fps is enough to be better than this gen since that will dramatically improve the gameplay, BUT framerate drops will be a lot more noticeable

[talisker]

I think you PC crowd are very limited in terms of intellectual abilities as most console titles have had AA for several years, yet you keep spreading your urban legends about "jaggies" (what a tech term!). It shows how clueless you are about technology and gaming. The only thing you are able of is spitting out specs from the box of your graphics card.

The last paragraph of your comment is the best. Previous version of the engine is better than the later version. Brilliant.

[ProjectVulcan]

To be honest most console games have pretty low quality anti aliasing, if they have any at all. If you run at 720p or less to get effective AA you generally need it to be very high quality and the current consoles can't, or more accurately afford to do it. Even the best looking console games this gen suffer from more aliasing than a half decent PC game running 4x MSAA effectively.

However if the next consoles can actually manage to get closer to 1080p native resolution, you can get away with less AA and still have much better image quality.

A good quality implementation of FXAA would suffice at 1080p, although MSAA is still better it is more costly.

[cannon8800]

Killzone's artistic style really makes it pop. I still play killzone 2 every once in a while. It has such an unique feel and look; not even killzone 3 can touch it at that. I think killzone 4 will do the same, and that is, to go for a very unique feel, look, and atmosphere, that will make it stand out from the other exclusives and competitive shooters.

[WitWolfy]

I dunno the game is beautiful and all.. BUT! The grey pallet really makes the game feel depressing, dead and boring.. I had to force myself to play through the game just looking at grey walls 80% of the time..every stage felt like a rehash of the last... Very underwhelming

If they want me to give KZ another chance then they need a more vibrant color scheme and pallets.

[SonyStyled]

@ WitWolfy

your being a little bit biased, KZ2 was full of greys and browns. KZ3 was full of life and color. here check out this MP map from KZ3. i imagine you must have skipped on part 3 based off the fact you think every KZ game is full of greys and browns?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Donnieboi]

Fox Engine already has Cry Engine beat. And Kojima may allow 3rd parties to lease it at a cheap price (and free for other konami studios). Also, Luminous Engine is beautiful too! And the new Unreal Engine is nothing to sneeze at either. I think the limit can go beyond Cry engine.

[007Bond]

Graphics aren't everything you know, last I checked the only GREAT killzone game was 2. 1 and 3 were barely average generic FPS, but you guys always make PS exclusives seem godly.

[WiiUsauce]

yeah, a game on a 400 dollar console is gonna look better than a game that requires a 1000 dollar + gaming PC. seems legit.

[LackTrue4K]

funny how Crytek said

"we push the ps3 to its limits with Crysis 2!!!!"

....and what have they said about 3???
(insert cricket sound here)

[uncharted56]

yes we will see how it stacks up against crysis 3 on pc. I dont think it will be better but could be close enough as Yerli said

[steve30x]

You dont know if it will be noticably different when you havent seen the game.

[NastyLeftHook0]

crysis 3 in 4k resolution 120fps? ok! crytek said it first folks!

[RuperttheBear]

You won't see any next gen games at 4k resolution with 120fps.

[aceitman]

hell killzone 3 and uncharted , the last of us ,and infamous can compete with crisis..

[NastyLeftHook0]

I think these are the graphics we will see.

[tachy0n]

no man, just dont, dont compare a sub hd jaggie fest against a graphical masterpiece like the cryengine.

[SamPao]

no man, just don't, don't compare a techdemo with an actual game that ACTUALLY plays like a charm!
and also is fun :)

[Ritsujun]

That's not even the actual gameplay footage, how old are you actually? THREE?

[specialguest]

No console game to date has beaten the first Crysis on Max settings on a technical graphics level. Some games like Last of Us might look artistically pretty, but the 720p res looks noticeably dated today. I own kz2 & 3, uc2 & 3, played infamous2, and also owned Crysis on PC.

In Crysis, every blade of grass is sharp but not jagged, leaves on trees have separation instead of one low res clump of mass, lighting is amazing, shadows are accurate. All of that and more is rendered in an open world.

[Lazarus69]

You are right however i doubt you will find a game that runs and looks better the the ps3 games you listed using the same specs as the ps3

[CapsLocke]

Uncharted, compared to Crysis. The ignorance is strong in this one.

[Shanks]

the arrogance.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Its just good graphics really not gameplay

[jay2]

Lol. Don't believe this for a second. There's what 4-5X more power, first parties will look better.

[Allsystemgamer]

You forget that 1080p requires MORE POWER than 720p. So it's likely they won't look as good ad you fanboys keep thinking.

[ILive]

How much power does this 1080p you talk about require?

[BanBrother]

@ILive

1080p has twice as many pixels as 720p.

Really, I am not to fussed with these comparisons. A lot of pointless speculation. All I know is that the transition from PS3/360 to PS4/720 will be amazing.

[ILive]

He is talking about crysis 3 on pc and not on consoles for clarification purpose.

[Tyre]

Exactly... The PC version is definitely nextgen quality...u have to be stupid and blind not to see the graphics quality of Crysis 3 on PC. I think the launch games we will see on Nextgen Console will have this quality for starters and i'm very happy about that...it could have been less.

[Munky]

A lot of stupid and blind (by fanboyism) people on here.

[bunt-custardly]

Hmmm having read this comment 10 times now he makes no distinction about whether he's referring to the console or PC version. Yet Yerli said: "I don't think Crytek can do more on CURRENT GENERATION consoles than Crysis 3.

"I actually think people will be astonished that next gen launch titles from other companies might not be much different from Crysis 3."

Therefore he must be talking about Crysis 3 on Xbox 360/PS3. Unless CVG are trolling and misquoted him deliberately for hits.

If we remain objective: Please guys for one moment. Compared Day 1 launch games for PS3 or Xbox 360 and compare those to the last best looking games on Xbox and PS2 like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, how big was that difference? Not huge.

Crysis 3 on consoles is a good looking game as are many games coming out now. The Last of Us, GOW Ascension, Gears J, Halo 4 etc.

Some of the lesser quality games and perhaps even some big ones might not look so much different other than the increased resolution.

It takes years or the biggest budgets to get the most from new consoles. So I am sure he does mean some lesser games will not look so much different to last gen games. It always happens.

The only respite is there should be some kick ass showcase games from first party developers.

[DigitalSmoke]

Crysis 2 is a joke, animation system is rinkadink and the gfx engine isn't the jump this generation which Crysis 1 was back in the day.
They are trying to blow a supreme horn, but they are out of line.

[sandman224]

I agree with you on the animation system does need some work but crysis 3 on ultra settings for PC look pretty darn good.

[Eldyraen]

I would also agree about animation--if its one thing Sony devs really did that blew the competition away this gen is to that extra mile on the animation front. I love many of their games and admit they look great but animation sort of stands out as a huge leap even though most focus on other aspects of visual fidelity.

[angelsx]

If the full game looks lika the beta on consoles then 100% don't belive that.

[bunt-custardly]

Already said this days ago.

http://n4g.com/news/1168685...

[SlyFamous02]

This from the same people who said that Crysis2 will be the best looking game on the PS3, TLOU and Beyond will destroy it not to mention KZ4.

[ZeroX9876]

well if I'm not mistaken, crysis 1 was released in 2007 and the PS3 2006 (360 2005). So even those Hardware couldn't run it to the maximum, even less crysis 2.

How do they expect to run crysis 3 full specs on consoles next gen? will it be different than this gen?

Even more, the rumored next xbox/ps4 are said to have 8 cores. Gaming as of now hasn't been optimized for more than 4 core (On PC, generally speaking, there could be exceptions) so maybe they could get a pleasant surprise on those new console too!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I get this is PR spin to say ...just buy our game now cause this will look as good as next gen...and to be fair Crysis 3 looks fantastic. What they don't say is while visually they may look close, what is happening, what can be done, load times, size of enviornments... that all will be very different with Next Gen.

[josephayal]

I think Crysis 3 looks spectacular but Killzone 2 looks %25-%45 better

[BanBrother]

I'm sure I speak on behalf of the N4G community when I ask; where the f*** did you get those percentages from? Lol.

Nevertheless, while it will be graphically very nice, I'd like to see it compared to Killzone 3 on Digital Foundry. As far as I'm concerned, Killzone 3 is still the best looking FPS on consoles.

[bunt-custardly]

People are in denial here. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli has most likely been working with next gen systems for quite some time now and therefore knows what the f*** he's talking about - and obviously is under strict NDA not to say too much. I'd say he's More informed than a bunch of websites who have nothing more than speculation and rumors to go by.

[Genuine-User]

I think he's comparing launch games with Crysis 3 on PC. If that's the case then sure, why not.

[-Gespenst-]

Yeah that's how I interpreted it. If not, then that's some serious arrogance.

[Genuine-User]

Let's hope we are right.

[PastyGangster]

Lol. Yeah, okay. Crysis 3 looks like crap on consoles. Stop being so full of yourselves, Crytek.

[XboxInnovation]

Crytek hasn't made a good game in years

[landog]

i am 100% next gen console games will not look nearly as good as crysis 2 on a modern gaming rig, on ultra, dx11, high res textures, let alone crysis 3

he means next gen console launch games will look a lot like crysis 3 on ps3/360, just slightly better

you are fooling yourself and setting yourself up for major disappointment if you think anything on next gen consoles will compete with a 2 year old gaming rig, let alone one built this year

2560x1600, 8x anti aliasing, real time soft shadows, ssao, bloom, motion blur, real time hdr

i mean come on, you think a $500 machine is going to deliver anything near that

it won't sorry...we'll all know for sure in less thna 9 months

[-Falaut-]

hehe, you brought up "rig" and then talked about resolution...You win!

[BitbyDeath]

As long as that is Crysis 3 on PC with max settings then that's a start at least.

[NatureOfLogic]

Well, I currently just start playing crisis 2 and I like the game and all but IMO MGS4 looks better than crisis 2 on consoles. If MGS4 had the lighting that was crisis 2 it would easily crush it in graphics. This is coming from someone who has played both on a 55 inch hdtv. Just my opinion though.

[WeskerChildReborned]

What's with Crytek in over hyping Crysis 3? Hell imo Last of Us looks better than Crysis 3 visually, also Crysis 3 for PS3 have muddy textures(well from the beta on my PS3, not sure if it's same for 360) and if it's like that for the story, it's not gonna be appealing also other games that look better visually, GTA V and MGS GZ.

[Convas]

Are there Sony fanboys in here honestly trying to say that launch nextgen games will look as good as Crysis 3 on Ultra-spec?

I need a tylenol.

[TheGamerDood]

Better! That's right, I said it. :P

UC & KZ will show the world what Sony developers can really do. Seriously though, it's awesome that we can debate about who has the better hardware/graphics again, this gen went on far too long.

[BitbyDeath]

@Convas, Can i haz your magic time machine when you're done?

[zbg31610]

Soo he thinks games will actually take a step back from this gen? He says the console version is going to look almost as good as next gen games. However crysis 3 on console wont look as good as killzone 3. So by that logic, Guerilla is planning to set a new precedent by creating Killzone 4, which will really look worse than killzone 3. This guy is funny

[ILive]

Whst about Witcher 3?

[ame22]

They will, trust me on this one Cevat.

[DeltaCanuckian]

When is Crytek going to learn to shut up? I remember them bragging about how much better they were than Naughty Dog and Bungie before Crysis 2, and that game was trash. The more they talk, the more I sincerely hope C3 crashes and burns.

[Funky_Homosapien]

Crytek needs to learn graphics aren't everything. All their games have been seriously lacking in the story/plot department.

[quantae06]

I know! I don't even like Crysis.

[Sp1d3ynut]

I really don't think graphics will be the battle ground for next-gen, like it was for most of this gen. I think A.I. and physics will see the largest leap, with the (supposedly) huge leap in RAM and CPU specs.

[solid_warlord]

This is what Next Gen should look like..Not even Killzone 4 or Crysis 3 look this good, why?. This looks almost photo realistic and in realtime, this is what i wanna see realistically speaking. Guerrilla Games and Naughty Dog, make this shit happen. Bring on Next Gen!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[IK IR Y IP T]

Exactly why I cant stand this website anymore bunch of morons he is obviously stating that next gen consoles will look no different then crysis 3 on pc at ultra settings ! thats common sense why would he say crysis 3 on this gen will look the same on next gen you guys are complete idiots ! get them play stations out of your asses and start buying more games and help sony out because last time i checked most of the first party games barley sold anything and you can take that to the bank or google it !! ps i have beat all the killzone games and they are generic fps they done even compare to crysis franchise

[brettyd]

blah blah blah

[Qrphe]

I actually downloaded and been playing the Crysis 3 beta. It's actually quite good

O.o

[PAYNEinc85]

I personally think Killzone 2 and 3 look better than Crysis 3. On consoles anyway.

[Fakdafakinfakerz]

After Crysis 2, all I have to say is : f*** you Crytek.

[Pandamobile]

Pretty much.

If you're expecting early next-gen console games to look better than the PC version of Crysis 3, you're going to be pretty disappointed.

[FlyingFoxy]

The problem with Crytek is that they focus on graphics too much and badly optimize their games, the fact it takes so long for the game to be playable at 60fps after release says volumes about their games.

I won't be touching any of their games, even if they are free. now Valve and Source 2 on the other hand.. sounds very yummy.

[Pandamobile]

Crysis was fairly unoptimized, but 2 and 3 have run smooth as silk on my computer.

"I won't be touching any of their games, even if they are free."

Well then you're just missing out on solid games.

[Tzuno]

Ha ha he's right, i cant wait for the next gen to slap you in the face all of you graphical whores.

[faraany33k]

To put PS3 fanboys at there rightful place, this is how your KILLZONE 3 looked

http://media.giantbomb.com/...

and this is how Crysis 3 looks like.

http://static.strategyinfor...

[plaZeHD]

Thank you for proving that Kill-Zone 3 is a better looking game.
This is how Kill-Zone 3 looks like by the way.
http://img689.imageshack.us...

[FlyingFoxy]

Don't really care crytek, for starters your games run like crap on the best graphics cards on release.

I game at 1920x1080 because it's the best res for speed and quality, i'll be getting a GTX 780 or 790 on release and the more fps i get the better, i don't want a game like Crysis that runs something like 30-40fps when i can play real games that are actually fun at over 60fps.

Pretty pathetic that their games run so bad on top graphics cards when it comes out.

[tommygunzII]

Come on Crytek, you know these kids can't handle the truth.

[MakiSaad2]

Damn they are so full of them self and arrogant we will see Crytek KILLZONE 4 WILL OWN CRYSIS 3 IN TERMS OF GRAPHICS

[Bio_Mod]

They said alot about what a juggernaut number 2 would be on consoles and It didn't really live up to that so I'd call hype alert, even if by some miracle they did pull it off you'd need a decent story and more innovation (the same can be said for most FPS) and not Crytek so wait and see , the next Homefront on the other hand with a continuation of the original storyline could be brilliant or at least I hope.

[SOM3ROiD]

Maybe he's talking about Crysis 3 for PC.. which is far better than on curr-gen cans.

[brave27heart]

"Next gen games wont look much diffetent to Crysis 3"

But I bet they're more fun to play.

[DivineAssault]

i dont mind cuz thats how it usually works during the transition.. I remember DOA4 on 360 looking JUST like DOA3 in high res.. No other differences that are immediately evident.. Native 1080p 60 FPS will be a nice touch tho if they do it at launch

[guitar_nerd_23]

I'm pretty sure he said when Crisis 2 was comming out that it was better than next gen already.

I find this guy pretty arrogant, especially seeing as his games aren't even that fun imo.

Art style > Technical achievement for me at least.

[tubers]

Crysis 3 on PC, yes.

I used to see Doom 3 on higher end PCs back in the time, then I was so excited for the PS3 graphics.. when I saw in real life.. ugh, not much of an upgrade compared to PC graphics..

Uncharted 2 was the first game that made me question PC hardware and game optimization.

[Deku-Johnny]

That's all well and good but how will they match up to Monolith's 'X'?

[mochachino]

On PC yes, on consoles no.

[inFAMOUS_KRATOS]

is crysis on console even as good looking as halo4 or uncharted?

i didnt see nothing special about that game, blown out of proportion comments.

[Jek_Porkins]

This always happens though. I know a lot of people are acting kind of shocked, but look back to the launch titles from the generation and you'll see a HUGE difference. Doom 3 was one of my last original Xbox purchases, it looked fantastic, when I played the first Saints Row or Condemned, you'll see that Doom 3 actually looked better.

One of the reasons is that a lot of the time they switch the development focus late in the actual game development, so most launch games were intended for the previous console before being switched. There is also the unfamiliarity of the new hardware.

Games have always looked better later in a console cycle, it usually takes a year or two for the great games to come out in my opinion.

[jakmckratos]

It friggin better. Im ready to see cutscene animations as regular gameplay just as this generation i from the last. If Kingdom Hears 3 is indeed a PS4 game it better be because the game is going to look like the opening scenes graphically.

I want to see the Element and Samaritan tech demoes become real games too

[koston3647]

Crytek is starting to sound eerily similar to Turn 10

[PersonMan]

That's disappointing. Crysis 3 doesn't look special.

[SephirothX21]

Killzone 4 might look better than Cryis 3 (for 360 and PS£) but it won't touch it running on a high end pc. It won't touch Crysis 2 running on a high end pc. My pc has 16gigs ram, a GTX 680 and an i7 overclocked to 4.5ghz. My pc costs about 1800 euro. The power supply alone is 1200w which costs nearly 250 euro because its Corsair gold certified. You will be very lucky if the PS4 has a gpu as good as the 580.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[stragomccloud]

Oh Crytek, console gamers will never understand that. Next gen consoles won't even be as powerful as high end PCs, so if people want to see what next gen console games will look like, maybe they should just look at current PC games on high(not ultra) settings.

Console gamers are expecting photo realistic avatar graphics, and that just isn't happening yet. Even the difference between PC games on high and their console counterparts isn't so disparaging as to seem like a generational leap like the one between PS2 and PS3.

[brave27heart]

Actually we're not. We're looking for the next step up but really what we want is more expansive gaming. We want to play in new ways. And we want to buy one machine that will last 5-8 years and give us consistent performance.

[stragomccloud]

Well, then you are a reasonable fellow sir.

[Master of Unlocking]

I really don't understand why all of you keep trashing Crytek and their games. Cevat Yerli is Crytek's CEO, it's his job to sell the CryEngine and talk about tech all the time, it's kinda what they do, you know.

Also, I must be one of the few on this site who had a blast with Crysis 2, then. I didn't like it quite as much as Killzone 2 or 3, but definitely better than Crysis 1, and in any case far, far better than other FPS games that people often refer to, like Borderlands, Halo, COD, Rage...

To finish with, we don't need a PS4 if some people here are shooting for only 1080p @ 60fps games, as the PS3 can already produce that (GT5, WipeOut HD, Lair, Super Stardust, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, etc. the PS3 has been doing it ever since it released 6 years ago). No, knowing Sony, if they release a PS4, it's because they have tech that will really make you forget about the PS3, so, capable of outputting 4K @ @ least 30 fps, maybe. Not just 1080p @ 60fps in any case, they wouldn't make their bottom line look even worse than it already does just for that. No way.

[aftershock]

All 3 crysis games look like blurry dog shit on consoles. If next gen launch games don't look better, then I won't be buying