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Sony: PS4's main selling point will be 'new playing options, not improved hardware specs'

As Sony Computer Entertainment warms up its blue lighting and double-checks its playlist for February 20th, one unnamed SCE official says that the PlayStation 4 will act as more of a home entertainment hub than what we've seen in the past. They added, according to the Nikkei, that the main selling point won't be the rumored eight-core AMD64 CPU or other hardware specs, but how it opens up new styles of play -- something Nintendo is also focusing on.

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Angainor74087d ago

this is lame.. i'm sure ps4 will deliver just like ps3 did.
Xbox 720 vs PS4 = Huge battle, huge win for all of us..

Dylila4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

this is sony so going by there philosophy the ps4 will have cutting edge technology and have a powerful hardware.

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Skips4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

http://www.computerandvideo...

Pretty much what you said. I don't really get why people are giving you so many disagrees. LMAO.

They'll probably HAVE the power but won't focus too much on it with the advertising. You can't really sell hardware spec to the average joe. lol

darthv724087d ago

will be like every other console that has evolved from a previous platform. The revolutionary systems are generally the ones that are new to the game.

From that point, the follow-ups are deemed evolutionary. Improving on things to differentiate themselves from the previous release. Sony knows what they want to have in their next system. be it new ways to play or trying to reinvent something that failed before but the timing is better now to bring it back.

The tech will be improved but please understand that cost has always played a factor and we as consumers are expecting more for our $$ but the companies too have expectations to deliver for a certain price range.

The main selling point of ANY system is the games and perceived entertainment value it can bring. No manner of hardware will sell without the right software to showcase it properly.

If sony chose the conservative route and released the ps4 with much more internal ram and better cpu/gpu but stayed with the existing idea of the hdd and bluray then so be it. It will still represent an evolutionary step up from the ps3.

Many seem to forget that competition isnt always about the other guy but also about themselves. Sony will obviously make the unit better than the ps3. That is the idea for any new platform from an existing company. Making it better than the other guy is just a bonus.

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Outside_ofthe_Box4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

***"that the main selling point won't be the rumored eight-core AMD64 CPU or other hardware specs, but how it opens up new styles of play -- something Nintendo is also focusing on. Sony is going to push the new console as a home entertainment "nerve center," with a focus on the hardware's ability to connect and share to mobile devices -- the rival that's pulling gamers away from traditional consoles."***

So if this is to be true, all those that praise MS for making their system go the route of being an 'all in one' box and praise smart glass for it's functions and being compatible with multiple smartphones as opposed to a single device like the Vita and all those that praise Nintendo for bringing about new ways to play games should have no problem with the PS4.

All those that bashed/criticized MS and Ninty for the things mentioned above should be okay too, so as long as Sony doesn't fail to deliver on spec front and/or stop focusing on games... I don't see why anyone should be unhappy with the PS4 assuming the rumors are true unless if you're a fanboy of course.

decrypt4086d ago

Just means..

Sony knows...

Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics.

kino174086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

I would like to know who was the guy that started this "gameplay over graphics" bullshit. Graphics is equal if not more important than gameplay. Take the god of war series. Same gameplay for years, with better graphic over time. If the game looked like the ps2 days on the ps3 ,NO one would care and it, and the series wouldve been dead years ago. I play games for both. But if the game looks the same as the ps2 days (jaggies and bad texture) i woulnt pay for it no matter how good the gameplay is. So please Kill this bs saying. Without great graphic how would you imerse in a game with good gameplay? Alot of us wouldnt except it.

TenkoTAiLS4086d ago

Riiight..do you remember the original Playstation? Or even the Playstation 2? Neither of those home consoles were better than any of the competitors systems that launched alongside them. They were always the underdog until the PS3.

Brilliant systems, brilliant games, but don't go trying to say they always have cutting edge tech or powerful hardware. Until PS3 they lacked both of those things. By console standards anyway. No console has cutting edge hardware, they are all made out of old cheap, outdated CPU, GPU etc, that's a fact you can't argue with.

deafdani4086d ago

It's really hard to say what Sony's philosophy regarding power is. On one hand, the PS1 and PS2 were fairly weak consoles, but on the other, the PS3 was powerful. And the PSP was vastly more powerful than the DS, but the Vita, although more powerful than the 3DS, does not show such a big gap as the one that was between PSP and DS.

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GraveLord4087d ago

Who said it wouldn't?
You can have a focus on innovations/features while still having a powerful console. This is Sony, they're not stupid like Nintendo. We already have the specs and PS4 > Xbox 720.

whoyouwit044086d ago

@GraveLord

We already have the specs and PS4 > Xbox 720.

No we don't we have rumored specs.

rluvah4086d ago

You must be young because it was Sony who always had the weakest system up until PS3.

irepbtown4086d ago

rluvah

Have you already forgot the PS2?

Bigpappy4087d ago

I wonder what the "new playing options" are? The only new options that have been hinted at was a wii-u like controller, and a Kinect like camera. Is there some thing else, or will I have to wait for Feb 20?

rainslacker4086d ago

Hard to say. I do like the fact they call them "options" however. I'm not a big fan of being told how I should play my games, and don't want to see a focus on one specific method of control or usability of the games themselves.

zeddy4087d ago

if this is true, i shall be very disappointed. i dont really care about new styles of play.

ILive4086d ago

The reason console gamers want the best tech possible is because most console owners cant afford pcs that we constantly have to keep upgrading. That is why it is disappointing when you hear pc people talk about their graphics card and how consoles cant keep up. Its true. But can we at least hope that we will have a significant upgrade granted that no one knows what the specs are truly capable of? We get it, pcs will always be ahead of consoles.

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Cocozero4087d ago

Sonys a little late to the media hub game, MS are miles ahead in that area.

At least Sony is being smart by copying MS, that way that may be able to make some money this time around.

DoomeDx4087d ago

They are definatly ahead!
Paying for netflix, and the lack of Blu ray really makes them ahead of Sony.

They are just about equal dumbass

JP13694087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Which console has always shipped with wi-fi, hdmi, blu-ray and a hard drive?

As mentioned by Doome, have fun paying twice to use services like Netflix, Hulu, etc.

Cocozero4087d ago

And the damage control begins...

Monkeycan84087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Well don't say something that's false and expect to not get a response. I remember back in the day when Sony said that the PS3 is a media hub for games, movies, music, ect.

All the Xbox fanboy were saying we buy them to play games not watch movies blah blah blah blah. Its the hypocrisy in this generation that makes me hate it so much, which mainly comes from the 360 crowd from what I see.

JP13694087d ago

It's not damage control. We're simply pointing out the stupidity of a baseless statement like the one you made. You should expect those comments when you say something that is so obviously untrue.

DigitalRaptor4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

@ Monkeycan8

Well said. I see I'm not the only one to think that.

As far as fanboys go, both sides are as bad as each other, but what irks me is that other fanboys such as Septic and Lvl_up_gamer label this place as a "circlejerk haven for PS3 fanboys", when let's face the facts:

Back at the start of this gen when 360 was most popular and in the mainstream light more than ever, it was the complete opposite here on N4G with everyone and their grandma bashing on PS3, hating Sony, it's games, everything about it, and... mostly the 360 fanboys on here outnumbered the PS3 guys vastly.

And they still do the same, but the difference is that when PS3 gains traction and things turn around, these people just ignore the history of events and act disgusted at the behaviour of PS3 fans, when people like them were doing the same things a few years back when it was in their favour to say or do such things. Why was it that PS3 fans were right all along that PS3 wasn't doomed, PS3 had games, Blu-ray wasn't doomed etc., etc,. Yet they should just sit back and watch Xbox fans praise MS for the things they poo'ed on?

It's not damage control - it's years of 360 fans talking bullcrap that was never true and filling the comments sections with epic proportions of hypocrisy and double standards. Some of the current 360 fans on here feel vicitimized that Sony fans are hating on the 360 or Microsoft? Well, harsh sh*t.

To conclude, Sony simply do more in this industry, thus, there is more Sony news and discussion, thus, there are more Sony fans on a website dedicated to gaming news. Deal with it!

rainslacker4086d ago

hmmm...well I use my PS3 for all my media serving and watching needs, outside of the cable box that is.

So not sure what your on about MS being superior. MS own media serving solution in windows is one of the most abysmally designed and counter-intuitive programs I've ever used, so yeah, MS ain't that far ahead when you can find free options to serve media which are a hundred times better and offer more features.

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boing14087d ago

You forgot to add 'only in US'. In EU Xbox is collecting dust as media center.

Christopher4086d ago (Edited 4086d ago )

***Sonys a little late to the media hub game, MS are miles ahead in that area. ***

That is factually incorrect, FYI. PS3 is a set-top box in Europe for many already. PS3 has blu-ray. PS3 doesn't have 'media app' additional subscription requirements.

I'm not quite sure how you got to your thinking. Perhaps it is because the 360 released a year before the PS3, but it's been behind on many elements in comparison to the PS3 on many major media elements and lost out by backing the wrong media device for HD movies/tv on disc.

I'm not going to say that Sony may not copy something Microsoft or Nintendo is/has done, but your logic makes no sense.

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EliteDave934087d ago

If this is true im very disappointed.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197213d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91313d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6913d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos21d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9521d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia21d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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