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Bayonetta 2 trailer confirmed as real-time graphics on WiiU

The developer video from Platinum Games shown during the most recent WiiU Nintendo Direct presentation. Showed off a very huge monster at the end, which most believed to be CGI. But was confirmed through Twitter by Yusuke Hashimoto to be in game graphics.

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Neonridr4088d ago

That's good news, because the monster looked quite impressive, and if this rendered in real time with the game engine, then I don't think we'll have to worry about what kind of visuals the Wii U can pump out..

Ck1x4088d ago

I agree! If this is any indication of What Platinum Games may show off at e3 of Bayonetta 2. People are going to be really shocked at how WiiU games stack up against the PS4 & 720. Especially since people are now using photos of the GPU die to now say that it's weaker than both the PS3&360... Most of the things they are guessing at are custom designed and they have no clue what this chip is capable of, or its functions. But they still guess anyways. Next they will come out and say WiiU is just 4 GameCubes duct-taped together. Lol

bryam19824087d ago

We havent see how the graphics that ps4 and xbox720 are going to be which i believe are going to be way better than this

MmaFan-Qc4087d ago

well, we cant say that the Bayonetta 2 video was impressive, in fact it was pretty minimalist and barely showed us something.

nothing to be hyped really, if you played the first game... you know exactly what you will get.

now lets hope that the game wont bomb like MadWorld did simply because its not where the target audience is.

metroid324087d ago

Here the gpu is officially the.

http://nintendoculture.file...

simple as that there was no need for the tear down it has 32 MB Edram for both gpu and cpu,2GB RAM,it has a GPGPU,Memory intensive design,Iwata said all this ages ago,so couple this with my link and that Mayamoto's words that he believes the cpu isn't weak and seing Xenoblade and Beyonetta2 ect it's not a HD4670 ????

JP13694087d ago

Sorry, but most of that image in cloaked in shadow. Not exactly proof of power.

Ritsujun4087d ago

Don't get mad when PS3&X360 get Bayonetta 2 HD Edition few years later and PS4&X720 Bayonetta 2 VHD Edition, just like many of those 3rd party Nintendo exclusives.
ROFLMSAO.

corrus4087d ago

PS4 specs the real specs

System Memory: 8GB
Video Memory: 2.2 GB
CPU: 4x Dual-Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (so, 8x cores)
GPU: AMD R10xx
Ports: 4x USB 3.0, 2x Ethernet
Drive: Blu-Ray
HDD: 160GB
Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1 & 7.1 channels

AsimLeonheart4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

WTH?? That is just a one second clip of... something. We dont get to see any textures, lighting, FPS, details or animation. Why are you getting excited for this? Come on Nintendo fans, you need to try harder to prove that your console is also powerful.

TheGrimReaper4087d ago

@Ck1x:
Photos of the GPU die suggest that is around 1.5 times more powerful than the GPU of Xbox 360. People are saying this and not that it is weaker than PS3 & 360.
And as for the CPU: It's a tuned Wii CPU which itsef was a tuned GameCube CPU.
The comment "just 4 GameCubes duct-taped together" isn't that ridiculous ;)

Wii U IS more powerful than PS3&360. Anybody who is denying that has to be a fanboy imho.
BUT thinking Wii U will be as powerful as PS4/720 is a different topic. IF the rumored specs are true, Wii U will be way behind in terms of raw processing power.
Let's wait for E3 before jumping conclusions...

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Dwalls11714087d ago

Im actually happy for nintendo fans....I hope this games is amazing so you guys finally get somthing to play

And if its good they will do bayonetta 3

WiiUsauce4087d ago

^ this type of comment is unheard-of on N4G, the Sony fanboy hangout site. lol

Deku-Johnny4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

An actual positive comment towards Nintendo and it's fans on N4G? Am I dead? *Bubble vote added*

Ritsujun4087d ago

Yup they should be glad that they're finally getting a non-casual game.
Aren't they sick of those Justin Bieber games? Oh god.

CalvinKlein4087d ago

lol that isnt positive tho. Its stealth trolling saying they "finally have something to play."

Kinda like the ps3 this year after all the casual crap released last year for it, finally some good games, not casual nintendo wanna be games. I hope that last of us is good because all this casual kiddy ps3 exclusives are killing me. If I wanted nintendo games Id have bought a wii or a wiiU.

nintendoland4087d ago

"finally get something to play." You lost it there

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aceitman4087d ago

I can't believe that people are going by that 2second clip . That shows nothing just wait till real gameplay trailer is out to judge.

LOL_WUT4087d ago

I know right? They are grasping at straws. The monster at the end (which is only 2 seconds of video) is being praised? People it's not like we haven't seen this throughout this whole gen. ;)

http://n4g.com/news/1167661...

StraightedgeSES4087d ago

Well if you took time to read the article the director of the game confirmed that it was real time.

ElectricKaibutsu4087d ago

Honestly, all I can tell is it's pretty dark. At least it's shiny(?)! I have no doubt the game will look good, but let's just wait until E3, shall we?

BullyMangler4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Yep .. i got a ps3, but still want to play the 1st beyonetta . Whys it gotta fail on the ps3?, and why does not fail on 360? . . And why did the game devs say that the 1st boss will feel like the last? . Hek does dat mean? . . Nintendos pissing off a lot of peeps with all their exclusives and innovation. . . Or maybe just the fanboys and girls

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meetajhu4087d ago

The trailer was a joke. wii U is joke of 8th console generation.

SilentNegotiator4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

There's really nothing impressive about what little was shown being real-time.

Were there even ANY background/scenes being fully rendered? Plus, there really wasn't GAMEPLAY and gameplay uses a lot of processing power for programming.

They're really grasping at straws with a strawman-esqe argument.
The real issue: Is it impressive at all? No, hardly anything was fully rendered and there wasn't gameplay.
Strawman: Wowiez! It's real time!

WiiUsauce4087d ago

lol so many haters in the comments. Why do you guys hate Nintendo so much? You guys act as if Nintendo snuck into your room in the middle of the night and raped you for you guys to hold such a grudge over the company LOL.

Apex134087d ago

I wonder that very thing and I bet a lot of them started with Nintendo.

Personally, they dare to be different and their games are better built then the other 2 which is why I always will have their system. I will compliment it with one of the others as there is never much differences bar exclusives.

showtimefolks4087d ago

This argument about how powerful won't die till we know the specs for ps4 and next Xbox

I am happy Nintendo has finally joined rest of the world in HD era but as a fan of ps and Xbox I do believe both systems will be more powerful than wii-u.

3rd party support where is it? Why are so many 2013 games not showing up on wii-u?

We see a trailer and all of the sudden we know what wii-u is capable of? God of war has huge boss fights so hats doesn't mean much.

This may seem like a hate comment but it's not. Nintendo is great at making quality 1st party games but to be successful this time around hey are gonna need 3rd party support. But this wii-u isn't what wii was so everyone isn't going nuts and buying one.

That casual crowd has moved on to utter systems to mobile gaming but core market is here and for Nintendo to have any chance of competing with ms and Sony they gonna need to get their acts together and get 3rd party publishers on board. Easier said than done

HERE IS A FUN FACT, THE LAST SYSTEM FROM NINTENDO TO GET GREAT 3RD PARTY SUPPORT WAS SNES. Now let that sink in because SNES was a long long time ago.

Whether ts right or wrong but Nintendo's systems have a long history of being looked as kids or family friendly gaming systems. So M rated games automatically are set up to fail

herbs4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

I ran out of bubbles on the Wii U GPU discussion so I'm going to post this here. Digital Foundry and Eurogamer made it sound like they had the GPU specs nailed down 100% but they are infact making some assumptions and there are still some very big??? It's super lame when sites jump the gun like this just for hits on there site because they know the fanboys will eat it up.
This video sums it up eloquently...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

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Starfox174087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Everything from the level design and the sheer scope of Beyonetta 2 makes the 1st one look like a ps2 game to be honest.

deafdani4087d ago

And you say that based on... what, exactly?

Munnkyman4086d ago

Um what footage are you lookin at lol. This game will be Greta but no real footage has come yet

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DivineAssault 4088d ago

hopefully it looks & plays better than the 1st.. i need to see gameplay before i can say anything about this.. The wii u isnt as strong as people think

Qrphe4087d ago

"hopefully it looks better than the 1st"

You must've played it on the PS3.

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As far as the video, at no moment did it look CG to me.

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YoungPlex4087d ago

This guy... -_-

Everyone knows that games built from the ground up on any console always have an advantage over multiplats. This looks amazing yet he still finds a way to knock it. smdh... Anyway, pure awesomeness!

DivineAssault 4087d ago

dont matter.. Wii u isnt nx gen period.. Last of us looks amazing.. God of war looks amazing, beyond 2 souls looks amazing, etc.. Dont mean theyre nx gen games.. Sony will prolly get this game like they do the rest in due time

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

profgerbik4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Most "fans" are blind followers of course not all of them but I guess that is where the word fan came from, just look at the Super Bowl.

There is nothing wrong with not liking the first game.

It was far from impressive and it got plenty of very mixed reviews and I can almost bet you will find more people who disliked the game versus to those who thought it was amazing.

In terms of graphical achievements Bayonetta was never anything to talk about, so I have no idea why people disagree with that but it's those same people who will be in another Nintendo thread talking about how they don't care about graphics but are always so quick to defend them.

I personally don't think the 2nd one is even really something to talk about graphically. These people must not have seen or played Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, it is made by the exact same developers and shows far more graphical prowess over Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U but I am sure just because it's not on the Wii U this will get mad disagrees.

When it's proven over and over again the Wii U is practically on the same level if not slightly below the PS3's which MGR is on.

As they say you can't talk sense into the senseless.

OmegaSlayer4087d ago

Nintendo fanboys are desperate because WiiU will probably be the last Nintendo console and 3rd party devs won't even consider making gamnes on the platform.

YoungPlex4087d ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night! Wii U is indeed a next gen console. Now if you are looking at it from a graphical point of view then that's fine, but if your looking at it as a whole then of course it is! Do you really think that anyone in their right mind wouldn't buy a game like Bayonetta 2 or X because Uncharted 40 or GOW 17 comes out on PS9!? Maybe you wont but unlike you most gamers buy games for playability not strictly for graphics. Give it up man!

TheBlackSmoke4087d ago

Actually the reason Bayonetta 2 is exclusive is because no one bought the first one. Its not a system seller.

And trying to undermine uncharted and god of war like they are not good games makes your opinion invalid. Did you know it is possible to have amazing graphics AND great gameplay...oh wait your a nintendo fan nvm..

Wii u is not next gen, just wait until ps4/nextbox come out and you come to the realisation developers arent making wii u games anymore, hell even now they are leaving it out with curent gen multiplats.

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RedDeadLB4087d ago

judging from the screens the monster doesn't look all that detailed, it's just heavy on specular maps as far as I can tell. But still, I'm interested. We'll see in the future just how it turns out.

Blacklash934087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

With the dark lighting from the environment it's impossible to tell how detailed it is. You would barely be able to see in it that scene if it weren't for the specular maps. If it isn't that detailed, it could be just becuase you won't see it it anything but dark lighting. Likewise, no way to tell.

But really, this is just a very brief moment of footage in a darkly lit level in a far from finished build. There's no way we can scutinize it to judge or get an impression of Bayonetta 2 or its graphical quality.

RedDeadLB4087d ago

That's what I said, we'll just have to wait and see how graphically impressive it is.

Considering it's just a monster in a room with nothing in it practically, during gameplay it might not look as well as everyone would hope.

But again, we'll see. When is this supposed to release anyway?

Kaiou4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

CG? that is a lot of aliasing for a CG , come on!!. (not that it looks bad)

stuna14087d ago

There sure is a lot of flip-flopping going on in these threads! Reminds me of a fish on the deck of a fishing boat.

There will be improvements of course, but they will be minimalistic at best! Like someone said above due to what is being shown, anything can look good if it's in a room by itself, and me playing the original Bayonetta personality, it's not like it was a graphical beast to begin with! Of course I'd expect there to be some that would disagree with me.

The preview of the game X would be more apt to get my blood pumping as far as anything I've seen on the WII U thus far.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

Seeing that they showed wire frame I am pretty sure it was real time.

I wasn't blown away by anything but I am sure it will be good.

Now we need to find out if nintendo only gamers want the game seeing that never played it.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 22h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 20h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 19h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 11h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 10h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 22h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 22h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 22h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 17h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 11h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 19h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 5h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel8d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing7d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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The Nintendo Partner Spotlight Sale Is The Perfect Excuse To Get These 6 Gems

Huzaifa from eXputer: "The Nintendo Partner Spotlight sale event has discounted a number of worthy titles on the Switch. Here are 6 of them you should check out."