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Pachter: Sony '100% certain' to announce PS4 on Feb. 20

Industry analyst Michael Pachter, of Wedbush Securities for example, feels Sony is "100 percent certain to announce the PlayStation 4" at the event. That's according to game developers and retailers supposedly familiar with Sony's plans.

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NeverEnding19894090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

Announcement or no announcement, I'm going to be waiting a few years before I buy a PS4. Sony hasn't given me, as an investor, confidence that the PS4 won't be the next Dreamcast. Before I spend $500+, I want to be sure that my consoles name won't be changed halfway through the generation to 'Samsung Playstation'.

nrvalleytime4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

For once, I completely agree with Mr. Pachter. And I just saw a flying pig outside my office window.

Edit @NeverEnding1989: As an investor, you should be buying the product because of your faith in the product. I'm guessing you're not actually an investor, so I'm not sure how you can say it might be the next Dreamcast. The PS4 has a brand history, stellar lineup of exclusive IPs, and a customer service in PS Plus that's second to none. And I say all this as a 360 owner.

Dylila4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

i cant wait for the comparison of ps4 games and wii u games on feb 20th. it will be quite funny when people actually see the jump in technology on the ps4. most fanboys are expecting to see games akin to ps3 game tech but they are in for quite a let down.

most fanboys love to tout about power doesnt matter and graphics doesnt mean anything its all about gameplay. these people have been gaming on system with npcs tha looks the same and predictable enemies that do the same thing constantly. with power there is a chance to limit predictablility in games and develop enemy characters that all look different and act different. there are so much improvements which having a powerful system can make better.

i cant wait for ps4 announement. ill be buying two day one but the pictures, games and specs of the system will be amazing to have. i cant wait for the pics of the ps4 because ill make it my background on my pc, ps vita and ps3. if sony shows uncharted 4, killzone 4 and gran turismo 6 i know theyll look better than anything ever seen on any gaming system

JoGam4090d ago

Ignore him. He's been trolling since 1989. Its NeverEnding.

kreate4090d ago

That's a failed investor right there lol

By the way I don't mind another competitor joining the console industry.. especially if its from Samsung.

RuleofOne343 4090d ago

Think he was referring to himself as a consumer , more than an actual E*TRADE kind of investor.

raWfodog4090d ago

Here we are talking about the PS4 (that's means the FOURTH console in the history of Playstation) and some people are still talking about Sony not giving them 'confidence'? Playstation has been around for ALMOST 20 years now and people still aren't confident in the brand?

TheGamerDood4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

I have no doubts they'll debut the PS4 on the 20th but I just hope it's not a tease and they offer up a ton of details on games, xmb, services, etc.

also, if this new info on durango pans out to be true then Sony has nothing to worry about next-gen; Durango is looking to be more of a casual consumer box that'll compete with the Wii U and whatever Apple releases in the future than the PS4.

World Exclusive: Durango’s GPU detailed
http://www.vgleaks.com/dura...

@neverendingtrolling

your post history speaks for itself.

That-Guy4090d ago

If Pachter's wrong, I want to see him pack up and leave.

LAZL0-Panaflex4090d ago

Dude is never right, he swore on his cat's life gears would come to ps3.....(fart noise).....wrong!

shadow27974090d ago

Get excited: they're announcing Cross Game Chat for PS3.

nveenio4089d ago

Ha. That would be funny. No PS4, but cross-game chat is finally here! (Or will be with the next big update, due in November of 2013. Which will be pushed back to February of 2014. Just in time for the PS4 reveal.)

On a serious note, I'm trying not to get my hopes up. We haven't seen a leaked photo, and that would make this Sony's best kept secret. Sony is horrible at keeping secrets. Without a leaked photo, I don't know what to think about Sony's plans for the 20th.

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Irishguy954090d ago

Oh....jesus, I REALLY REALLY hope sony don't announce on the 20th...just for Patcher. It would be so epic if his 100% goes no where.

ZoyosJD4090d ago

Only if they announce on the 19th of Feb at 11:59 PM.

#cantwait

DeadlyFire4090d ago

Well I personally would love to discredit him as well, but he only states the obvious with his own personal guesses and beliefs added to them.

rainslacker4090d ago

I couldn't care less about making him look bad, he does enough of that himself. His predictions mean nothing to me as a gamer, and I want Sony to come out the gate on fire this time around.

It's all but confirmed that this is a PS4 announcement, with some reasonable doubt thrown in for who knows what reason. It doesn't take a genius to make a 100% prediction when it seems to be the majority consensus among the major media and internet goers.

BitbyDeath4090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

Don't worry, it'll be the 21st here so he'll still be wrong in some countries

LAZL0-Panaflex4090d ago

Hell yeah! I love it when this dude is wrong! I I wanted Romney to win but seeing dick morris and karl rove sittin there eatin shit it was pretty damn funny.

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DigitalSmoke4090d ago

Your opinion is out of whack son.

UnSelf4090d ago

Patcher Paradox: anything Patcher says is always false.*

There goes the PS4 announcement.

* This paradox is subject to change

...... nani?

NotSoSilentBob4090d ago

What Patcher says 99% of the time the opposite happens.

akaakaaka4090d ago

wtf not true, patcher is know because he just use loggics and says the obvious not because he is always wrong but because he says the obvious.

get that right.. and that is why most people say wtf i can do his job and i bet anyone can..

iNMyFiN4LH0uR4090d ago

You are not an investor if you BUY the Playstation 4, you are simply a consumer/customer. Investors tend to INVEST in the company rather than their products. Secondly, I'd like to know based on what do you assume the PS4 will in any shape or form follow the Dreamcast?

Sony-although struggling mightily-remains a giant in electronics. Playstation regardless of it breaking even so late in the cycle is a cash cow for Sony considering its life cycle.

Qrphe4090d ago

Can someone do a C-COMBO BREAKER with this troll and agree with him? It's just that I've never seen such a high disagree-to-agree ratio before.

NukaCola4090d ago

What if all this was for an official PS app or something?...the internet will be on fire regardless of what they announce...but with all the focus on this, more than anything else in the last coupe of years, it's going to happen. It has to happen. This is a big event, live streamed and all the top dogs from the gaming media are showing up. I wonder what will get announced with the system or demoed? Killzone 4 or maybe something fresh from Sucker Punch? I would love to see a real kick in the face to the fanboys and huge apology to the loyalists, like (Gabe's E3 Portal 2 announcement) and have Bethesda drop Fallout 4 on PS3 with full attention, exclusive content, the works.

FlameBaitGod4090d ago

"as an investor" That crap made my day

ps3_pwns4090d ago

You will be waiting a few years before you ever have more then one bubble bruh. Im getting the ps4 day 1 as I already know it will have things that make it more valuable then any other system.

007Bond4090d ago

I agree Metal Gear and the last of us is all that's really interesting in PS. All their other franchises they just copy and paste with better graphics like Uncharted/ Killzone just like MS does

Quiescent4090d ago

U STUPID *flag for personal attack*

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nosferatuzodd4089d ago

When have you ever see Sony change their system name ?
Better yet, name the time you saw sega change their system name to something else other than sega. I would realy like to know please enlighten me?.
Stop being a troll ..

kupomogli4089d ago

The brand name is usually at the forefront of any product. Magnavox Odyssey, Atari Lynx, Sega Master System, Nintendo Gamecube, etc.

Sega has had a new name every single system they've released. Master System, Mega Drive/Genesis, Game Gear, 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast.

Playstation has pretty much became their own brand. What do you hear every single Playstation event. "We here at Playstation." So the Playstation Vita would just be the Vita.

Who knows if the PS4 is going to be called the PS4. It could be called the Playstation Orbis just like rumors say. Which it will then be referred to most people as just Orbis. It took Nintendo awhile to get off just using Nintendo. Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, etc, or Gameboy and all the Gameboy revisions. Sony might finally be adding console names.

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OC_MurphysLaw4090d ago

Even if they weren't planning to do so I think now they are pretty much in a corner and have to announce something. Can you imagine the let down and back lash if they came out on stage and merely talked about the games coming to PS3 and Vita? No, no...Sony know they need to pull the trigger at this point.

Darrius Cole4090d ago

Actually they could get of the hook by announcing a release date for Versus 13.

Godmars2904090d ago

If only he'd stake his job...

Seriously though, if this announcement turns out not to be the PS4, who's not going to blame Sony for it being *their* fault when everyone else jumped to that conclusion?

rainslacker4090d ago

I wouldn't blame Sony. I'd be upset they didn't quell the rumors though. I find it makes bad business sense to allow all this hype to generate over a different product than you want to showcase during this event, as it just means the hate would overshadow whatever it is they announce, possibly causing the announced product to fail because of the negative connotation that it got at it's reveal.

Darrius Cole4090d ago

So far the best evidence that I have seen so far that Sony will NOT announce the PS4 on Feb. 20, 2014 is the fact that Michael Pachter says that he is 100% certain that they WILL. If he is right, this will be like the 3 time out of 100 predictions.

DigitalSmoke4090d ago

He's such a doushbag, making un educated guesses about something he has ZERO feeling for.

Such a tool, and vote this shit down, lets get rid of the muppet.

sourav934090d ago

You're right. Sony will not announce the PS4 on Feb. 20, "2014". That'll be too late.

PurpHerbison4090d ago

Obvious troll, or an innocent mistake. Either or, your reply was worthless. So was mine though, cause I wasted time typing this.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies14d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken14d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga14d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken14d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6414d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long14d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197213d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12514d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91314d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer14d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91313d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit13d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher14d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6913d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit13d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher14d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken14d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2314d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218314d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder14d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts14d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades20d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken20d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades20d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii20d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit22d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9521d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia21d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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