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Is Microsoft's Illumiroom the Future of Gaming?

IGN - Why augmented reality is the way of the future, regardless of IllumiRoom’s success.

core_54094d ago (Edited 4094d ago )

is that just stolen from the BBC and Phillips Ambilight?

Gazondaily4094d ago (Edited 4094d ago )

The Phillips Ambilight? That just emits a light that corresponds with the picture not fully fledged extension of the video.

There is a possible advantage in terms of field of vision in fps games but to be honest, I doubt it'll operate as anything more than a gimmick because there are so many variables to consider as far as individual home setups are concerned.

Other than that, I really do think augmented reality is the way forward. Once implemented correctly and wholly, it can only serve to make the gameplay experience more immersive.

ThatGuy24093d ago

OMGZ I CANT WAIT FOR MAH KINECT ANIMAILZ 3 WITH ILLUMIROOM GAMING!!

StreetsofRage4094d ago

Absolutely it is. Unfortunately we're still in its infant stage and at least a decade away from actually playing in a virtual world. But we have to start somewhere.

Gamer19824093d ago

No its not I think you got the wrong idea of what it is. This is not virtual reality its a lighting effect in your room. It's a nice idea but does it add that much to your games? Not really purely because you are too invested on whats happening on the screen and not whats around you right now. Its a start I'll agree with that but this is nothing like virtual reality. Only thing I would like this for it movies. Imagine LOTR or something when they going through snowy mountains and it looks like its snowing in your living room? Very nice. But gaming? Not really...

Also this could increase price of 720 at launch which could be detrimental to its launch and also give gamers the wrong idea of where the consoles heading like Kinect has done.

Side point here though.. We still don't know if this is coming to consoles in any shape or form MS has not said so which makes me think its just like the Virtual reality tech Sony came up with last year. Just an idea or maybe part of Kinect 2? Which could come after 720 launch..

MikeMyers4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

There are too many hurdles to evolve gaming ideas into the mainstream. Look at the compromises the Wii U had to make in order for it to be affordable. If the Wii U had the latest technology it would be well over $350. As it is now Nintendo is losing money on it. So to fully experience this Illumiroom you will need next generation Kinect cameras and a projector. It is possible to create a next generation experience but at what cost? Even Sony tried to create a True HD game platform, the PS3. But that too was met with compromises as very few games actually had 1080p native resolution and very few games went beyond 30fps. It was also $500 for the cheap model back in 2006.

There are a lot of ideas that never come to fruition and it takes big marketing for it to happen. 3D was a big push a few years ago, now Sony doesn't even really talk about it much for games now do they? Great idea but met with harsh criticism in its application and there simply isn't enough demand. People don't want to wear the glasses, some people don't like the effect, it adds more cost to the consumer and so on.

Kinect worked for Microsoft because it had a huge marketing campaign. But even then the actual impact in gaming was very limited. People are going to be a lot more skeptical just like they are with the Wii U when it comes to real world gaming experiences. Unless the game experience is improved or creates a more immersive experience consumers will be very apprehensive in supporting it. Which leads to a huge problem and that is game support. So it's a catch-22, you need people to sell to but those people won't buy if nothing warrants the sale to begin with. That's when huge risks are involved and not many want to take too many risks anymore.

StrongMan4094d ago

Nope. That's what they said about Kinect and look how that turned out.

Hellsvacancy4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

Not that im sticking up for MS but Kinect turned out ok, for MS anyway, they made loads of money

From a gamers perspective its probably not so great, MS dont care about little things like that

clintagious6504093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

Its exactly why i think MS has been lacking with new IP's for their core audience is because as mediocre as kinect games are to the hardcore base MS is gonna stick with whatever brings in the most cash. I bet they do the same thing with the Next Box they will draw the core in like they did with 360 & bring out a few new IP's to add along side Halo/Gears/Alan Wake/Forza & as soon as they know they have been a success they will cash in the rest of the way catering to the casuals like they are now and make money off them because the casual audience buy up most of the kinect stuff that come out now & they know The next halo/gears/forza & timed exclusive dlc for games like COD &other big 3rd party games will sell well. They honestly dont need a Huge Library of Exclusives to make money because MS is true success comes from xbox live & kinect & they have the money to advertise it so much that ppl buy into it. Thats what I see in my opinion.

Knight_Crawler4093d ago

@clitagious69 - You do realize that a companies number 1 priority is to make money at what ever cost right.

I know some of you people believe that your favorite company really loves and cares about you because they find joy on you defending them on the internet.

News flash companies only care about your money and do not give a flying cr@p about you emotional attachment to them.

clintagious6504093d ago

Knight_Crawler

Of course it is but with the lack of new IP's for the core base you would think MS wouldnt have a problem in that area especially with the way they spend so much money advertising kinect games. If u are telling me that your just fine with the few exclusive games MS has? Its no wonder MS doesnt give us core gamers any new IP's because of gamers like u who let MS have their way with gamers instead of making them listen to wat us gamers want from them. smh.

GribbleGrunger4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

The choice is a simple one: Do you cater for the fickle casuals or the hardcore devotees? Short-termism may look great on an investors spreadsheet but it's a risky and fragile investment. Films and books have convinced people that flying cars and androids that do the housework are the future because they wrap these ideas in a consistent and accommodating fantasy world -- Minority Report is no different. We evolved fingers and thumbs for a reason. Trying to ignore this will always leave people wanting.

MikeMyers4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

"The choice is a simple one: Do you cater for the fickle casuals or the hardcore devotees?"

Actually it isn't that simple. You can cater to both and be successful. The problem for Microsoft is they had to be very aggressive with Kinect in order for it to succeed and that led to ignoring the hardcore while coasting on existing ip's. So the hardcore crowd felt ignored and rightly so.

My hope is that going forward they can manage both. Games like Angry Birds draw mass attention and you can still have games that cater to both crowds. I imagine a game like Minecraft can appeal to every type of gamer which is why they wanted it on their system and it sold millions. Nintendo is also trying to bring a more balanced approach with the Wii U. Games like those with Mario and the Little Big Planet games can appeal to both crowds.

You (the companies, not you in particular) have to get rid of your baggage and simply move on. Nintendo has a lot of baggage and it will be hard to be seen again as a serious player for hardcore gamers but they can succeed.

I think it is a mistake to cater to only one crowd, whether it be the hardcore or the casual, in todays market.

GribbleGrunger4093d ago

Mike, that's what I'm getting at. They have to be really careful they don't create an audience that dictates more Kinect and Casual games. Nintendo made that mistake with the Wii and whilst it sold millions of consoles, it lost many third party games. Many developers are struggling at the moment and are likely to try to make quick money up front in the hope that they can stabilise their businesses for the future. Promote Kinect too heavily and those devs will flood the 720 with cheap tricks and shovelware. The balance is a difficult one. Keep it an option, not the main feature and all will be well.

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Baka-akaB4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

the problem isnt that they made money , but how utterly mediocre it has been for games thus far .

of course some could argue the same about 3d , but at least it was an option . Not of whole branch and offshoot of game funding that could have gone to better new or old ips

Illumiroom seems more interesting however , even if cautious about it

InMyOpinion4093d ago

Still, isn't there a larger game library for Kinect than the Move? So if you like Kinect games there's lots to choose from.

It's not for everyone but at least MS has been supportive of it.

Baka-akaB4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

Not really that varied when most of it , save rare good games like Dance central are mediocre casual stuff . And i'm not saying mediocre because they are casual , but mediocre because well just mediocre and poorly done (esecially 505 games ).

And kinect integration in "hardcore" games hasnt really led to much interesting either .

Move is as guilty of mediocre casual stuff , and wasnt even something that came to mind with my post above , but at least it remained a viable alternative control scheme for some games . "Better with kinect" has yet to happens and most wouldnt claims it's "better with move"

Illumiroom seems like something that could actually work with "normal hardcore games" (like move sometimes) , so now it can interest us cynical folks

claterz4093d ago

Well the concept of playing video games without the need of a controller is something we will be seeing a lot of in the future IMO. Kinect just isn't advanced enough to be used in most games and certainly couldn't replace a controller. it's a step in the right direction though.

I like the idea of augmented reality and bringing games into our living room. Anything that make games more immersible is a plus for me.

mcstorm4093d ago

I agree with what you have just said. If you look at what is going on with Kinect as a product you can see it is going to get better and better over time and revisions of the product just like anything in the tech world. I see Kinect being used in every game next gem for the next Xbox because it will be included from the start but it will be a more advanced version of the product. Kinect has been a massive success for Microsoft and the Xbox name as it has opened the door to the none core and if you look at some of the games like fable, Kinect sports, dance central ect they were not bad games just not games the hard core like.

As for Illumiroom I do see Microsoft using this technology at some point or selling the technology to tv companys to use.

I really like Microsoft as a company at the moment they get alto of stick esp on this site but 10 years ago it was a company stuck in the past but over they last few years they have really started to show what they can do when they put there mind to it. Yes some will never be made into a product but that's the same with everyone.

NukaCola4094d ago

I highly doubt it. It adds a bit of immersion and possibly a large case of seizures, but for the future, it's just some extra flashy lights and flair, nothing interactive. Also, this thing as in the video, had advertisements projected on the walls. Come on already. This looks like it's could be implemented with a Kinect 2.0, but I wouldn't invest stock in it as a game changer by any means.

bozebo4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

Actually, knowing MS it probably is worth investing in. They've probably gained patents whereby the way they are worded means whatever is done in the future that is remotely similar will net them royalties.

The whole thing is probably all just about securing patents because it looks pretty impractical as it stands now (not a valid consumer product, just a projector and a 2nd viewport in the game outputting to it), the technology business is sometimes more about securing patents than improving technology these days, especially where MS are concerned (they make more money for each Android phone sold than each Windows phone sold, though they think developers are going to care about their Windows app store which would net them some cash due to vendor locking their customers into it)

jetlian4093d ago

it could bypass the pc double and triple screen setups now you can get over 180 degree views in forza or any game.

So long as its clear not costly it could do well

KMCROC544093d ago

When can I buy it & how much.

KMCROC544093d ago

To all with the disagrees ,what is wrong with you funts.
can't stand to see someone want something you don't like. If you don't like it or see no use for it then don't buy. But stop being a bunch of funts.

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10 Weirdest Video Games of All Time

Plenty of unforgettable games have completely messed up their players throughout the years, all the way back from the PS1 days to the dark recesses of the modern internet.

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JonTheGod13h ago

Why are the Katamari games not on the list??

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy852d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted2d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere2d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook72d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy852d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga2d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher1d 11h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble1d 5h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike2d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv721d 14h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

BoneMagnus1d 13h ago

@darth - Nice collection!

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire1d 12h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga1d 11h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk1d 20h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7211d 15h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty1d 8h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds1d 18h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx121d 18h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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It's A Crime That There's No Sleeping Dogs 2 Yet

Huzaifah from eXputer: "Sleeping Dogs from the early 2010s is one of the best open-world games out there but in dire need of a resurgence."

LG_Fox_Brazil3d ago

I agree, I consider the first one a cult classic already

isarai3d ago

You say "yet" as if it's even possible anymore. United Front Games is gone, along with anyone that made this game what it is

CrimsonWing692d ago

That’s what happens when games sell poorly. And I’ve seen people wonder why people cry when a game sells badly… this is your answer.

solideagle2d ago

Majority of the time it's true but if a company/publisher is big (in terms of money), they can take a hit or 2. e.g. I am not worried about Rebirth sales as Square will make Remake 3 anyway but if FF 17 doesn't sell then Square might need to look for alternative. <-- my humble opinion

Abnor_Mal2d ago

Doesn’t Microsoft own the IP now since they acquired Activision?

DaReapa2d ago

No. Square Enix owns the IP.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

Oh okay, Activision owned True Crime, but when that didn’t sell as intended it was canceled. Six months later Square Enix bought the rights and changed the title to Sleeping Dogs.*

*As per Wikipedia

boing12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Sleeping Dogs was a sleeper hit back then. It was fantastic. It actually still is. Would love a sequel to this, or at least a revive of True Crime series.

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