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EA on Wii U: not a next-gen console

During EA’s Jan. 30 investors call, the major publisher stated that Nintendo’s recently released Wii U is not quite a next-generation console.

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SilentNegotiator4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

People don't have to like this, but it's not what publishers and developers wanted. And when that happens, you get thin third party support.

The top devs/pubs were asking for a lot more power so that they could expand games' horizons. Not touchscreens.

BullyMangler4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Nintendo will show this genetation HOW to use this much power PROPERLY . . .just look at what capcom did with the Gcube and Res Evil 1 Remake . . i have yet to see a game that looks more astonishing than that Res game . and its for the Gamecube . . . ha haaa . this gonna be goood . .

blitz06234096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

It IS Nintendo's next-gen console PERIOD. Why does this issue have to be brought up again? EA is just describing console generation. For them, it hasn't started yet because all games right now are still maxed out at the PS3/360 level. They are correct, next-gen hasn't really started until we see games that the PS3/360 cannot run.
It's already crystal clear the Wii U is just in the area of the PS3/Xbox 360. But it is STILL Nintendo's next-gen console.
It will STILL belong in the SAME generation as the PS4/Orbis and 720/Durango just like the Wii belongs in the same generation as the PS3 and 360.

TruthbeTold4096d ago

If by expand "games' horizons" you meant be lazy with coding since it's not crucial to optimize, then I agree.

I have no idea why people want/expect these majorly powerful consoles when

1. It will be so expensive that relatively few people will buy them.

and

2. Extra 'power' will just mean developers can be lazy. Most games won't come close to pushing the envelope. Only a few 1st party games will WOW people.

Developers as a whole aren't chomping at the bit for more power. RAM, yes, certainly. But what they want most are consoles that are less expensive to develop for. The built in architecture for all 3 of the new major consoles have/will have that.

Kevin ButIer4096d ago

I don't see any interest from Nintendo to play the "generations" game in the industry, wich somehow is a good thing for consumers. Diversity is always good.

ShinMaster4096d ago

Successful(maybe), but not truly next gen.

The caliber of games is about the same as current gen consoles playing the same current gen games like ME3, AC3 and Batman, much like the Wii played games like Okami and RE4, which were PS2 and GC games.

Is it Nintendo's own next-gen? Yes. It's the Wii's successor. But in the industry, it's not.

metroid324096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Look this is Sony and Microsoft using developers to tell porkies because EA havn't put a single game on ps3 or 360 that comes anywhere near Xenoblade WiiU them graphics are like a Nextgen Skyrim with out the screen tear ect,the waterfalls and birds in the backgrounds and the textures,lighting,and especially the shadows look incredible and way beyond anything on pc,ps3.360 ect yes that's due to consoles holding bk pc or pc would be better ?

The WiiU is clearly dx11 comparable going off that Xenoblade footage it looked dx12 in most area's,so if you think this is 1st gen wiiu games when ps4 hits the WiiU will be onto it's second gen games in other words Metroid,Zelda,Smash,Eternal D2, ect.

All this ps4 and 720 will have better graphics is just pipe dreams as from the rumours ps4 will be using the same chip confirmed by a respected developer to be the HD6670 and we all know the 67** series is at least 40% more powerful ?

About these high end engines Retro studio's and Nintendo have Engines that rival UE4 that's the word and with Retro i believe this Engine when shown will destroy EA's Engines.

SilentNegotiator4096d ago

"If by expand "games' horizons" you meant be lazy with coding since it's not crucial to optimize, then I agree"

Ummmm, no. Super Mario 64 wouldn't have been possible on SNES if Nintendo weren't "lazy".
GoW1 wouldn't have been possible on Ps1 if Sony weren't "lazy".
Crysis wouldn't have worked on Xbox original if they weren't "lazy"

Optimization only takes you so far. Devs/pubs are ready to make NEXT gen games, however, and they need some FAST RAM, a strong CPU, and a next-gen GPU to make bigger, more complex, and prettier games.

Donnieboi4096d ago

If Wii U is next-gen simply because it's Nintendo's latest console, then I guess that Ouya is next gen too since it came out later. But we all know it's not next gen TECH, so cut the crap Ninty fanboys. Nobody believes that 6 year old tech is next gen no matter how much u try to spin it. And when the real next gen multiplats roll out, with wii u being left behind, then you'll see why it's not next gen.

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Army_of_Darkness4095d ago

LOL! i just had to say that;-)

guitarded774095d ago

Architecture... It determines where developers go.

Whichever architecture is most common (install base) determines where games are made.

Developers are asked by console manufacturers what they'd like to see in terms of architecture, before the system is designed.

What is important to the developer is CPU, RAM and GPU. We are at a point in CPU development where size is flat-lining due to heat restrictions... GPU's are becoming more powerful, and most systems won't even use more than 4-6gb of RAM.

I haven't fully seen the Wii U's specs (I have been looking though), but even the most hardcore Nintendo fans must be aware that the Wii U will not have the same power as the PS4 and NeXBOX.

It's not the end of third party support though. Wii U shouldn't have a problem running MANY games that will be on PS4 and NeXBOX. Remember, AAA power pushing games are more expensive to develope, so not everyone will be making state of the art pixel pushers.

Some games (especially downloadable only) will run on Wii U too. EA and Nintendo have a shaky relationship, but Ubisoft and Platinum Games and Capcom have shown support. As long as Nintendo can sell consoles, games will be made.

I don't worry about it because I own all consoles, which is the best option if you are willing to spend the money. If not, buy the console which is best suited to you.

QUESTION: Does anyone know how many ALU's are in the Wii U GPU?

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user39158004096d ago

There it is another publisher saying it out loud and I agree nintendo wiiu its a retro console with a poor handheld, sorry, I love nintendo, but the facts remain its a retro machine that can do what ps3 and 360 can do poorly.

AdvanceWarsSgt4096d ago

Wait......are you saying that the 3DS is poor or the WiiU tablet is poor?

metroid324096d ago

People forget AMD confirmed via Twitter that the wiiu uses a custom HD67** series so even the lowest of that series walk rings around the HD6670 that 720 and ps4 have,google it a respected dev confirmed this gpu for both consoles ie weaker than WiiU.

GET OVER IT WIIU GPGPU IS BEAST WE HAVE A XENOBLADE TRAILER TO PROVE IT NOT JUST CHEAP TALK and Moonlith say zero cpu issues or limitations just like Michel ancel zero limitations,and gearbox ect ect proof is in the pudding is what i say and Xenoblade looked way beyond current sub HD consoles,Beyonetta2 looked like an open world Beyonetta that demolishes the 1st one in everything scope,gameplay,graphics,you name it.

ziggurcat4095d ago

@ metroid32

1. none of the specs on the next playstation/xbox have been confirmed, so talking about the GPU being weaker on those systems is hearsay.

2. you're forgetting that the next playstation/xbox will likely have significantly more available RAM (probably faster, too), and a better CPU.

so really... quit trying to grasp at straws when it's painfully obvious that the next playstation/xbox will be way more powerful than the wii u.

and lol - nintendo just only joined the HD realm, so how is the PS3/X360 "sub HD"? xenoblade looks way beyond current consoles? give me a break... every current and upcoming first party title on X360/PS3 say, "hi."

southernbanana4095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

@ Metroid 32
Xenoblade Chronicles, my favorite wii game, is nowhere near the graphical level of the Xbox 360 and PS3. Not sure where you are getting the idea the wii is at the same level of the other two. Does it matter? No. Just find your rational interesting at the most.

Soplox4095d ago

@ziggurcat & @southernbanana

He's taking about this game

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LOL_WUT4096d ago

Finally this debate can be put to rest... ;)

PopRocks3594096d ago

Because someone from Kotaku tweeted that someone from EA made a statement about the Wii U?

Seriously, get real.

GraveLord4096d ago

From a specs standpoint it obviously isn't. I think even Nintendo fanboys can't deny it. EA and all these big 3rd party companies are building these high-end engines for PS4/720 and even PC. Wii U is the last thing on their mind with these engines.

solid_warlord4096d ago

Nintendo Wii U is increasingly looking like it will be like the Gamecube...Im really worried for them. The Wii U is meant to be the console that competes againt Ps4 & xbox next, i dont think they will be able to compete. I

1upgamer994095d ago

I'm just saying "Looking like it will be like the Gamecube" have you forgotten that PS2 had far less power than Gamecube, yet blew Xbox/Gamecube out of the water?

solid_warlord4095d ago

@1upgamer99 hahaha the Gamecube was not far more powerfull than ps2 u retard...The Sony brand also made Nintendo Gamecube sound like a childs play. Sony was dominant force, the Xbox was more Powerful than PS2 but you couldnt see a huge difference, but ps2 had better games. Nintendo had childish games, why do they continue that path. Take for example there network...they are way behind Xbox Live & PSN. The entire online is child freindly. Most men do not think Nintendo Wii U is a console for grown men.

Outside_ofthe_Box4096d ago

***"Never count Nintendo out. They have great IPs. You will see a bounce when they bring these out. We see no correlation between Wii U sales and what we expect from other next-gen consoles, can't talk a lot about that though. What we describe as "Gen 4" is yet to come. We're excited and investing in it."***

Why are they calling it "gen 4"? Isn't next gen the 8th?

Joegrine204096d ago

This isn't hard, you guys.

Quote:
We see no correlation between Wii U sales and what we expect from other next-gen consoles, can't talk a lot about that though.
Translation: Wii U is next-gen, but we don't think it's struggles will translate to other upcoming platforms.

Quote:
What we describe as "Gen 4" is yet to come. We're excited and investing in it.
Translation: We also haven't invested anything into new engines for Wii U, meaning all of our products for it are using old code/frameworks/paradigms -- thus even though the Wii U is next-gen as a platform, our games for it are not. "Gen 4" represents the new framework for forthcoming, more graphics-oriented games.

Outside_ofthe_Box4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Now it all makes sense when you see the quote in it's entirety and understand it's meaning.

***"We see no correlation between Wii U sales and what we expect from other next-gen consoles"***

Keyword: OTHER meaning they think of Wii U as next gen.

The quote was taken out of context... and look at the result it brought with the comments on here.. shoddy journalism and typical kotaku, LOL!

Ju4095d ago

That just means, the WiiU as it stands doesn't justify the investment in pushing the envelope. First it doesn't sell like the Wii did - nor the current consoles for that matter - and it doesn't push the envelope enough to make this "minimalistic" leap forward. While with PS4/720 the leap will be bigger and the market impact will be significantly bigger as well. Those are two paltform none the less. WiiU might see some improved content as soon as the new consoles are out.
Doing this with the WiiU now would still not push the next gens and require another upgrade cycle when those release - with the WiiU being somewhere inbetween the current and next gens. As a developer I can understand you'd rather make one big step than two small ones.

yeahokchief4096d ago

I agree it's not.

More importantly it also currently does not have enough games for core gamers.

No metroids. No new Zeldas. No new anything exciting really.

And the stuff they do put out is all focused at teenagers or younger. I do not see this console picking up at its current pace. Waste of money.

xursz4095d ago

I've been saying this forever. I can't find anything that makes me want to have the system and the price is still too much even if i did want it.

morkendo234096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

from JAY2
no it's not.

who CARES!!!! long as friendly gaming is before you.
everyone not into 3rd person shooters,first person shooters,multi-online player shooter games as yourself.
some might say they like zelda,pikmon,metroid,castlevan ia,contra more than those game.

live2play4096d ago

its not !?
D:
oh no! now i wont be able to enjoy
the wonderful 101
pikmin 3
smash bros u
xeno U
super mario U
bayonetta 2
windwaker HD
..oh no wait

ape0074095d ago

they are very good games but nothing compares to a new generation leap

lfclee4096d ago

Jay2 your the expert now are you ? The Wii u is a a next gen console how I know I have one and I will tell you there community is absolutely brilliant nice people and great games on the way !

showtimefolks4095d ago

Here we go again publishers or developers saying ts not next gen and Nintendo fans denying it all the way. Bottom line is this is a bad sign 3rd party support wise

In 2013 most big games are skipping wiiu, I would love to know the R&D that went into gamepad and the cost of gamepad that could have gone to improve the actual specs of the system and we could have survived with a normal controller like Sony and ms have

But it is what it is. I said it before and I will say it again the day ps4 and xbox720 hts the market is the day wiiu becomes not last gem but also not this gen and its not a good thing to be stuck in the middle

Enemy4095d ago

Wii U owners have two ways to look at this opinion.

1. You could accept that it isn't, and that it's only really competing against the PS3 and 360, as the Wii wasn't HD.

2. You could deny it, and then feel sad when the PS4 and next Xbox come out with superior hardware specs.

AsheXII4095d ago

Actually that is not what EA said.

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NYC_Gamer4096d ago

It's not when really compare Wii-U hardware Vs current gen..

Kevlar0094096d ago

The WiiU is just getting started. 2 months vs 6-7 years is no contest

HammadTheBeast4096d ago

Yes, but next-gen should NOT be compared to current-gen, it just shouldn't happen. We shouldn't be saying "Hey the Wii U is better than current gen" and arguing about it, it should be a clear fact. When the next gen competition comes in, that's when the final statement will be made.

chestnut11224096d ago

"The sales of Wii U were smooth at the beginning but since the turn of the year they have been losing momentum," Nintendo President Satoru Iwata told reporters in Osaka after revealing the loss forecast. He blamed the lacklustre performance on a dearth of games titles to woo players back.

Donnieboi4096d ago

But it's already using 6 year old tech. If u think it can be pushed much further than good luck with that buddy. Even a 25% increase will be nothing when Ps4/720 release. Sorry.

Old McGroin4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Don't really care if it's next gen or not (it's not), Nintendo's exclusives are always exceptional so a HD Nintendo console is welcome. I was getting bored of the 360 and PS3 so the Wii U is good for a change. It could do with a few more games though!

finbars754096d ago

Getting bored on the 360 and ps3?Im sorry but the Ipad has been around for a while with awsome fun games that cost next to nothing.Why would I shell $350 for something we all I have.The games are still mediocre and they still cant come up with anything new and innovative console and games.Its like Im playing the same games from the original nintendo.Nintendos days are numbered and they are paying for it with this console.sales are terrible along with there games.Nintendo has never understood how to attract every gamer instead they confuse people with the wii-u.next gen no even close this gen yes but this gen is t the end so nintendo needs to not only stay with current gens they need to figure whats more important gamers or themselves.

n4f4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

nintendo day numbered?
clearly delusional

ThyMagicSword4096d ago

What are you talking about, the Ipad should not even be considered as videogame-platform. "The games are still mediocre", the good ones are not even out yet and Nintendo does not need to attract everyone, they have their fanbase, while gaining some new customers each day. I have bought a Xbox 360 this gen (my first console from MS) and I greatly regret it, the console got boring really fast. Ps3 has offered much more for me, good exclusive games and PSN were good, but some games lacked substance, good graphics does not mean good gameplay, to tell the truth ... I've bought the Ps3 for Team ICO's The Last Guardian, waiting for several years for a release window now and still there is no precise release date, the game I enjoyed the most on my Ps3 was Shadow of the Colossus HD (which per se, is a last gen game) and some Demon's Souls of course. Should I buy the next Playstation just for one game (The Last Guardian) or the next Xbox, although I know they won't have enough exclusives, other than shooters like Halo or Gears of War ...looking at the Wii U, one can notice, that the line-up is starting to look good, so why is the Wii U hated? I don't understand this hate, give the console it's time, in time you'll see, that the hate wasn't justified at all.

s45gr324096d ago

Well okay have fun with the wii u. I do disagree about wii u offering a change from ps3 or 360 is the same thing now with a tablet attached to it.....

Seraphemz4096d ago

Bored?? How many iterations of a Mario game can one take...

Old McGroin4096d ago

I haven't had a Nintendo console since the SNES so Mario is pretty fresh to me. I think the question should be how many iterations of Halo, Uncharted, God Of War, Gears of War and COD can one take because I feel like I'm playing the exact same games with different coloured backgrounds for the last 7 years. And that gets pretty boring.

BullyMangler4096d ago

who's gonna play every mario game out there ? . .thats why thers mario galaxy 2 (:

zillanoir4096d ago

How many mario games... real mario games does one see each generation? One or two tops. How about halo,call of duty,little big planet, gears of wars etc,etc? More than two gens of mario games. Ha, regardless if wii u can produce better quality games in many areas with lazy ports like cod blk ops 2 at the begining of its life how can it be on par or less than the pervios gen? No sense there.
I remember clear ther was a slight bump initially for 360 over the 1st gen xbox but it was well into the year when u really could tell the jump. They just got better n maxed out.
Haters gonna hate i know i know but atleast make sense.

thezeldadoth4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

when's the last time EA made anything even remotely as good as the games Nintendo makes. The games nintendo make on wii-u will be exceptional, and i don't need nvidia physx and 16x AA to enjoy them, not that sony and msofts consoles will be able to do those either. I use my PC for things like that.

s45gr324096d ago

Well put use the PC for multiplats and the wii u for its exclusives.

SilentNegotiator4096d ago

"when's the last time EA made anything even remotely as good as the games Nintendo makes"

You can't be THAT delusional...or can you?

thezeldadoth4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

which games then? I think the last 2 mass effect games were terrible, TOR sucked, BF3 is average. The only one i can say i enjoyed published by EA was need for speed most wanted.

Imalwaysright4095d ago

Dragon Age and Dead Space are some of the best games I played this Gen.

kupomogli4095d ago

Mirror's Edge, The Saboteur, Need for Speed Most Wanted, Dead Space 1 and 2, Army of Two 1 and 2, Dante's Inferno, Dragon Age Origins, Battlefield 3, and Fight Night Champion.

EA has published a lot of amazing games this gen.

sitharrefus4096d ago

Next article "The Wii U has no games"......

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.