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DMC: Devil May Cry Betrays Fans of the Series

DMC might be a reboot of Devil May Cry, but Capcom removed everything that the series was known for. Fans of the series will find a game that is missing everything that they fell in love with.

Trenta274098d ago

It was rebooted. Give this new series thing a chance. Jeez...

HammadTheBeast4098d ago ShowReplies(6)
zerocrossing4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

I gave DmC a chance, I gave it quite a few actually, and you know what? I still don't care for it.

DMC was fine the way it was, if I could think up ways to improve on the original then Im damn sure Capcom could have, I could have gotten into the reboot too if it retained anything of the original franchise I actually liked but it just wasn't appealing to me and apparently a lot of the core fanbase agree.

Accepting a reboot you feel is inferior in almost every way is one thing, but you'd have to be stupid to want to give money to Capcom and NT after all the insults and complete disregard they've shown for the core fanbase that supported DMC since it's original release on PS2.

prototypeknuckles4098d ago

right, heck im a huge Prince of persia fan and i loved the 2008 game, sure you couldnt die but prince of persia isnt really known for hard difficulty unlike DMC, but its known for great platforminh, great puzzles, great story, and great character interaction, and the 2008 game was just that in fact it felt more like a sequel to sands of time than warrior within did, it had things that were familiar from that game, and thats why i love it just the same way i do sands of time, but DmC not one thing screams Devil May Cry to me, and of course the insults from NT, who act like theyre one of the best developers ever when they arent, when they can make a uncharted, zelda, infamous,sly cooper, portal,a bayonetta,a prince of persia, halo, heck a pokemomn even, then they can talk.

Monstar4097d ago

Then dont care..who the fuk is forcing you? it's a REBOOT...a different take by different developers. Stop crying.

Sevir4097d ago

why are you still here complaining about it!? LOL

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Lord_Sloth4098d ago

I played it until I stopped due to sheer boredom.

Lord_Sloth4097d ago

Of course I don't want a cookie. I want Devil May Cry 5.

Blacktric4097d ago

I wasn't aware that it was a "series" now...

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Summons754098d ago

Clearly, we've been pointing this out the whole time. It was given to a dev with a very VERY mediocre games under their belt with poor sales to boot. Ninja Theory's ego is large and they insult everyone and everything that has an opinion that isn't in their favor. Look at the way they treated criticism for this game, they insulted everyone who pointed out the flaws. They insult Japanese developers and the creator. I was happy to see the sales of this game tank right away, only shows that the reviewers were only giving it a good score when everyone else hates it.

TronEOL4098d ago

This is completely false. Heavenly Sword is one of PS3's most loved "launch" titles. And Enslaved was honestly underrated.

As for that reviewers comment, that's complete bullshit. The only people complaining are the 20-30 people on the internet, while hundreds of thousands of gamers play and enjoy the game.

Whether or not it matches previous DMC standards is another beast all together. But DmC is certainly a really good game and well worth it's good scores.

prototypeknuckles4098d ago

ill agree with you that heavenly sword was pretty good, but enslaved isnt underrated it was pretty average and i went into the game very excited it was just okay gameplay wise story wise i played a few games very similar that came before but did it better, and trip was very reminiscent of characters like elika, or alex vance but she felt more helpless than those 2.

obviosuly there are more people complaining than you think DmC hasnt gotten half of DMC4 sales at launch, now its an average action game but really for a DMC game its mediocre though it is better than DMC2, but thats still not saying much.

Blacktric4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

"The only people complaining are the 20-30 people on the internet"

"while hundreds of thousands of gamers play and enjoy the game."

Did you conduct an honest, non biased survey while I was away just now?

"And Enslaved was honestly underrated."

Your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sevir4097d ago

No he can only gauge that by the ammount who have bought the and have been playing it still.

Just because its sold less than DMC4 is hardly any inidcation of its success! even Selling just below the mark the previous games in its series The game still manages to be within the 5 in all major regions, a Game like Bayonnetta has sold 1 million on xbox and 900k on PS3 in its life time while DmC has sold 500k in its week world wide across 2 platforms with the PC version only just releasing on Friday!

Great! You "OLD school" fans of DMC dont care for the game! Youve been speaking against it since the reboot's inception! Its released and you've been hurt because the game you hate performed well beyond your expectations critically but since the vast majority of the hack and slash market has shrunk or the DMC fans who you claim hate the game so much they ignored it altogether you somehow think you scored a victory! give it a rest! The game is here and its done well critically and it will likely go on to make well in matching DMC4's sales or at the very least surpass Bayonnetta in sales.

this hate for this game is unhealthy and if you take gaming that seriously its time to get out and get some fresh air!... Its gone on too long. From the outrage of the initial showing to the unwarranted, death threats sent to the developers down right to the extremely laughable and downright ridiculous attempt to petition the President to remove the game from shelves! It has to Stop! Get the hell over it! if the game ends up tanking because no one you claim wants to buy it because it "SUCKS" then it;; tank and the series as a whole will be put to rest and you fans who hate the direction and the fans who love the series and even the new ones that may have come in with this reboot will have to live with the death of a franchise from a company that's known to shelve IPs due to lack of support.

Move on

Lord_Sloth4097d ago

This is like putting an out of shape average joe in the ring against Steven Hawking and saying the average joe is the best fighter in the ring. Sure it's true, but the competition isn't exactly fierce.

I enjoyed Heavenly Sword but it didn't have any competition at the time of it's launch aside from Genji.

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ame224098d ago

Ninja Theory is very underrated, they really deserve more love from gamers and critics alike they've put out excellent games over the past years. I enjoyed DMC, it's not their fault that hack and slash has become a niche. I honestly don't think having the reboot handed over to a Japanese developer would've made much of a difference even with classic Dante. Metal Gear Revengeance will be out soon and we'll remind each other then.

Reverent4097d ago

"I enjoyed DmC..."* fixed.

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Minato-Namikaze4097d ago

Possible Ni No Kuni reference I'm sensing, lol

haymoza4097d ago

Correct laddie. En't it. Abra Ka Frikkin' Dabra!

OhMyGandhi4098d ago

So many iterations of Call of Duty come out year after year, and people get annoyed with the fact that it "hasn't changed" with each game, and that the "formula is too much the same".
Then we have a reboot, like DMC, where a developer wants to create their -own- take on the series, and what happens? "Too much change".
Make up your mind people, because had I worked for Ninja Theory, I'd be damned confused as to what I can't change and what I should change. It's unbelievable that this game can't get even the -chance- to do its own thing.
I am diehard Splinter Cell fan, loved the original trilogy (the first, Pandora Tomorrow, and Chaos Theory) and while I dislike the action-y approach taken with each new iteration, I still can appreciate a change in direction.
Compare Splinter Cell: Blacklists drastic changes in pace and overall genre (stealth being a supposed "nuisance", a boring activity that makes for a "dead experience", as said by the game's lead designer, a little sentiment I strongly disagree with) to Pandora Tomorrow, and then you have a realistic "issue" to contend with.
But DMC is still very much DMC. The aesthetic has changed, but the core gameplay mechanics are still in use, and haven't been relegated to an "action button" as is the case with Splinter Cell. it's considered a "reboot".
It's as if people walked into the "Amazing Spider Man", and became upset that Tobey Maguire wasn't Peter Parker.

4logpc4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

how is DMC like Devil May Cry?

THe game is extremely easy and requires no skill to achieve high ranks.

The characters are "punk" and use profanity and dick jokes to try and be funny.

The bosses are lame and have no creativity.

It had its chance to do its own thing and it failed. The story is boring and has no creativity. The characters are one dimensional and boring. Dante is one of the worst heroes ever. Ninja Theory tried way too hard to make Dante a badass, but somehow in the end be the hero of the people. It makes no sense. Why do I need to see Dante getting a blowjob? Or Mundus having sex with some woman. Stupid stuff like that has no place in the story.

Ninja Theory really just doesn't know how to make a good game that is challenging, is creative, and can live up to the Devil May Cry name.

ame224098d ago

Well said. A lot of gamers don't know what they want half of the time. They just hate for the sake of it.

ThanatosDMC4098d ago

"but the core gameplay mechanics are still in use"

You dont know what you're talking about.

Information Minister4098d ago

So because COD is getting stale, we should proceed to reboot every other franchise in existence? Your analogy is also flawed in the sense that we've had 4 DMC games in over 11 years versus 9 COD games (not counting spin-offs) in under 10 years. I never saw a fan asking for change in DMC. Quite the opposite actually: the 2 main criticisms pointed out to DMC4 were the backtracking and the switch on the main character. So, people were actually complaining about the changes! Apples and oranges folks, apples and oranges!

Also, the issues that people have with the DmC reboot are just about as "realistic" as your issues with the Splinter Cell franchise. In fact, they are quite similar, considering both involve a dislike of the direction the series has taken.

OhMyGandhi4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

**I've edited this post so much that's it's almost impossible to appease anyone with the slightest inclination against this game.**

I feel that this extends beyond the realm of franchise loyalty, and into a deep seeded hatred for Ninja Theory.

I absolutely loved both Heavenly Sword and Enslaved, and appreciated the unique, often beautiful visuals, and fun characters (with Andy Serkis playing a fantastic antagonist) and while the combat in both games may have been a bit simplistic, there was still much to appreciate about both efforts.

Do people want reboots or no? and where is that line in the sand?

pr0t0typeknuckles4097d ago

dude you have to look at it this way now i like change in my games but i dont like change to the point of where its completly different, now i love prince of persia and i loved every game in the series and they all retain elements of prince of persia, and i love assassians creed also but if ubisoft were to turn prince of persia into assassians creed meaning its just AC with a prince of persia skin then thats a turn off but if ubisoft makes a new PoP game with co-op and i care less for co-op but if it has elements from PoP then ill love it, heck god of war ascension it has multiplayer most people were like no, i said yes why because it stays true to god of war and its different, DmC has hardly anything that resembles DMC besides for names, and trophies/achievements, and there really isnt anything new the only improvement that DmC has over the originals is platforming.

TitanUp4097d ago

some changes are good i have always wanted to play as a younger dante with a reboot. but what we got was not what we asked for

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Hicken4098d ago

What? An article in which the gaming media actually AGREES with DMC fans?

Is this real life?

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5 Years Later, Devil May Cry 5 Still Quenches My Hack-And-Slash Thirst Like No Other

Huzaifah from eXputer: "Devil May Cry 5, the latest iteration in the iconic DMC franchise by Capcom, still holds its own as a fantastic hack-and-slash in 2024."

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Dragon's Dogma 2 continues Capcom's hot streak on Metacritic

Dragon's Dogma 2 continues Capcom's hot streak of favorably reviewed games as the studio lands first on Metacritic's top publishers ranking.

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Capcom Is 'Aware' of Dragon's Dogma 2 Frame Rate Issues on PC

Responding to a query about frame rate problems from IGN, Capcom said in a statement that performance issues on PC may be linked to the heavy amount of CPU demanded from NPCs in the game.

"In Dragon's Dogma 2, a large amount of CPU usage is allocated to each character and dynamically calculates the impact of their physical presence in various environments. In certain situations where numerous characters appear simultaneously, the CPU usage can be very high and may affect the frame rate," a Capcom representative told IGN. "We are aware that in such situations, settings that reduce GPU load may currently have a limited effect; however, we are looking into ways to improve performance in the future."

just_looken28d ago

What a load of bull there blaming the npc load for there poor performance? the new hitman games has way more going on beyond that they are saying any pc cpu is not powerful enough?

In the article it is also stated a ign reviewr got motion sickness playing ps5/pc version but still enjoyed it? like wow if that was me i would knock it down alot and asked for a patch asap.

So those about to play thank denuvo get a barf bucket if your on pc play 720p because like cites skyline its going to be a unoptimized cpu mess.

Man those on series s/steam deck/rog ally rip :(

just_looken28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Just putting up a pcgamer review

"its janky has bugs poor performance need lots of updates 89/100"
https://youtu.be/WKjZKfAivh...

Gameing bolt unstable frame rate rate below 30fps but that is great??????
https://youtu.be/s9rnh2250X...

Man have we dropped that quality bar for acceptable performance/optimization

a person's view on performance using a high end pc
https://youtu.be/nL9EvGTPbA...

andy8528d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Am I hearing that right, that reviewer with a 4090 is getting drops into the 20s when there's several NPC on screen. Sorry but there's zero excuse for that. BG3 had hundreds at a time on screen and that's a pretty game. What an absolute piss poor engine

just_looken28d ago

@andy

Yes the is correct but every review is giving it a past and or saying that its great that the performance is like the first ps3/xbox one game.

2012 20-30fps 2024 20-30fps dragons dogma keeping things the same reviewers like that apparently

just_looken28d ago

IGN put up a video showing the 4090 struggling aswell as console performance all versions are like the first game with fps issues.Remember dlss 3.0 can almost double your fps like that cyber punk video so without dlss on your looking at 30fps on the most powerful gpu that is out right now.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Cacabunga28d ago

Capcom where is Deep Down???

Tapani28d ago

@andy85 At launch BG3 dropped to under 30fps at the final chapter on 4090. I played the game at launch and had that experience. And that was with a 5800X3D. Everything watercooled and fine-tuned CPU/GPU and memory at 32GB with good timings, and a fast SSD etc.

just_looken28d ago

@tapani

I am sorry are we comparing a AA game with a small budget with alot going on 24/7 to a AAA game funded buy the billion dollar capcom?

You are right yes but that was patched and that team loves there community but if the first dogma said anything we should expect a patch or 2 but that is it.

andy8527d ago

@Tapani indeed but that was hundreds of NPCs. Not a few. It's piss poor

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lellkay28d ago

Can they be aware of the need for 60fps on consoles plz

just_looken28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Oh no kidding that "pro" model better have a 60fps mode.

But that ps5 pro PSSR will no doubt be a hold back as i see very few devs make a fsr/dlss/pssr game like really sony why did you spend millions to make upscale tech on the 6800 when amd already has fsr 3.0 just sitting there.

I remember the ps4 pro patches that dwindle over time yes new games had the modes but they were not standard and that was without the base ps4 using another upscale tech.

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In tldr form devs now make fsr upscale for ps5/xbox PSSR upscale tech on ps5 pro game then dlss/fsr upscale tech pc version and we also have intels xess just insane workload

Eonjay28d ago

'Oh no kidding that "pro" model better have a 60fps mode.'

Perhaps but only if Capcom addresses the issues first. substantially more powerful hardware is struggling.

Furesis28d ago

I mean it's not helping but this is something more than that. Plenty of games with denuvo that work fine

just_looken28d ago

That could be also taxing for sure sense the ps5 also supports that dreadful drm

This is also running off the RE engine remember those re vids with the denuvo drm on/off

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

MrDead28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Project Zomboid a simple looking isometric game has a similar problem as the Zombies are CPU heavy. If this is the issue GPU tweeks won't do anything, you need less calculations per NPC or more static NPCs

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH28d ago

Well that’s just great…looks like I’ll be holding off on buying this on PC until it’s fixed. If I wanted low frame rates I’d just buy it in console smh…