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Next-Gen: Why Sony Should Wait on Microsoft

Sony says they are going to wait until Microsoft announces the next Xbox to show off the PS4, but is that really a good idea? Joshua Mobley of VGU.TV thinks so.

StrongMan4107d ago

Well written article. Sony is in the driver seat now and next gen.

konnerbllb4107d ago

Xbox has sold more than PS3 to date, have you read the article? Sure PS3 has shipped 1 mil more, but MS has more consoles sold. Shipped ≠ Sold

Also if they were in the drivers seat they wouldn't be waiting for MS to go first. Sounds like they are riding shotgun.

morkendo234107d ago

no one know what these companies are doing currently. remember this site ONLY report rumors
not official "FACTS" FROM SONY OR MICROSOFT.
far as im concern the gamers in the driver seat.
(buying power)

extermin8or4107d ago

Nah Sony have actually said they don't want to announce any details till after Microsoft has; they said they don't want to risk the competitor making last min changes to ensure they aren't left behind in technologically etc. I think it stems back to when Sony annonced the CEL etc for the ps3 last gen Microsoft went to IMB and used the SPu design of the CELL in their design, only like 3 of them and in a different structure etc but it still pissed sony off apparently at the time. Fair enough if they don't want to risk it; if they come out the gate with something really new and innovative and powerful then it might make sense why they didn't want their competitors to know till it was too late- downside is tat you have less time between announcement and release for the hype train to gain as much momentum as possible

blackbeld4107d ago

"Currently Microsoft has sold 74.25 million consoles worldwide while Sony has sold 72.49 PlayStation 3 consoles worldwide. Sony did however just out ship the Xbox 360 worldwide, totaling 77 million units shipped opposed to Microsoft’s 76 million units."

Must be a BIG PILL for 360 fanboys.

Microsoft back to 3e place again!

MaxXAttaxX4107d ago (Edited 4107d ago )

The reason why 360 sold more (at first), was because it launched 1 year before the PS3. Plain and simple.

"Shipped ≠ Sold" True, but you also sound desperate.
It shipped more because it sells more. The fact that the PS3 has cut the 360's initial 9 million lead down to nothing, is proof enough.

Also, Sony and Microsoft are in two different cars. Sony is simply being smart. It may not be much, but there's a slight strategic element to their decision.

Army_of_Darkness4107d ago

Besides the given 4K support and blu-ray, I wonder what else sony has up their sleeves for the ps4??

kneon4107d ago

Sigh.. once again manufacturers don't track when consumer electronics are sold to the end customer, they are considered sold when they are sold to a retailer or distributor.

And even if you refuse to believe that, no retailer keeps months of stock on hand, so even if you want to say the number is shipped rather than sold then in a couple of weeks that shipped number will be the sold number.

MikeMyers4107d ago

"Sony is in the driver seat now and next gen."

Sorry to burst your avatar but no they are not in the driver seat. In fact nobody is. The days of the PS2 dominating the field are long gone. In fact the playing field has changed since then. Game publishers are driven by sales and we now have a much broader market of potential customers. It's no longer aimed at just the hardcore gamer. So while the Wii started off strong it has in recent years started to fizzle. That doesn't mean the more casual gamer is gone from the equation.

Look, no matter how many exclusives Sony provides for your enjoyment they still don't control the market. In fact it's anyone's guess how the next gen will unfold. There are reasons why it may be beneficial for Sony to wait. They still have the PS3 to push and Vita to market. They are also not as financially stable to keep releasing new products. Lastly and more importantly is the Xbox 360 is more dated than the PS3 so it is Microsoft who should flinch first anyways.

ShinMaster4106d ago

Xbox 360 has also sold more... to the same people lol

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EddieNX 4107d ago

Sorry but from a Neutral Nintendo point of view , Sony is not in the driving seat for many reasons.

A- They are in a horrible shape financialy and can' afford to take any risks and now have the Vita looming over their shoulders
B- Nintendo Have the big popular first party IP and it's hard for Sony to compete with them on that front look at PSABR and PS move for example
C- Microsoft is the hottest thing in USA right now with Developers prioritising development for the xbox and not the playstation.

All American third party support in the 8th gen is once again going to be more optimized on the next Xbox.

Sony is still awesome , but in the driving seat ? definitely not.

Ezz20134107d ago

*Nintendo Have the big popular first party IP and it's hard for Sony to compete with them on that front look at PSABR and PS move for example *

stopped reading right there

Knight_Crawler4107d ago

I think next gen both MS and Sony have to being some totally diffrent from each othet to the table.

This gen software and console features were almost the same on the PS3 and 360.

Online: both had it one was free the other was lsighlty better.

Achivements and Trophies - samething diffrent name.

Games: Sony had more exclusive but gamers spoke with there wallets and multiplats like Call of Duty abd GTA are king.

Gimmick for the casuals: Move and Kinect

Apps: both conso;es have them.

I can not think of more right now but my point was that Sony nor MS offered soemthing drasticlly diffrent from each other to say OMG I want the PS3 over the 360 or vice versa.

Skype intergrated well on the xbox is one feature that will set the 720 apart from the PS4.

and Gaikai intergrated well on the PS4 will do the same for Sony.

nukeitall4106d ago

Technically the Xbox 360 differentiate itself pretty well from the PS3, with a well developed online network (with cross game chat and later party chat among other things), achievements first and Kinect.

Kinect might have been fueled by Nintendo's motion control, but none the less it is a huge differentiating factor from Nintendo compared to PS Move.

Sony this entire generation spent their time copying the competition while MS and Nintendo led in their own way.

This just seems like a repeat of that.

jmac534106d ago

@extermin8or
There is not much Sony or Microsoft could change in regards to specs to counter the competition if we are talking even a couple months. It would cost millions upon millions just to change one component and that's not even mentioning the R&D. Sony can't afford that right now and they are just posturing. Microsoft is in the better position to do that right now.

rainslacker4106d ago (Edited 4106d ago )

In theory they could

-change the amount or speed of memory
-offer a feature not thought of initially instead of adding it in later.
-increase the clock speed of the CPU or possibly upgrade it to another one within the same class and pin structure(like PC CPU's are capable of doing)
-increase the hard drive size
-increase the read speed of the Blu-ray
-add an additional service for free they first sought to monetize
-change the initial asking price
-increase the clock speed or use a better GPU in the same class as their currently designed one...similar to CPU above.
-or decide they have to change nothing

Not everything means a major redesign of the system, and I think his comment was more about having to see what the competition was offering before reacting to it.

Granted...what they have hardware wise is probably what we're going to get at this late stage. Only change would be if the PS3 is significantly less powerful than the 720. However, I'm pretty confident that both companies know what the other is going to offer already...or at least close to it. They have really good researchers, and buy tech off each other which could give them a decent idea of what is to be.

user39158004106d ago

Well written? Lol.. The article was based on a bias stand of a myth, with the lack of foundation, facts, and superstitions of a view. Not even analyst dare to sugest what will be the right move. Im a Sony suporter and even I can tell he was incoherent and looking for hits. I see it as is, the more they wait the less sales they have during that period, does not takes a genius to know that in order for you to sale a product it has to be in the market. The sooner MSD its out in the market the faster they will earned more gamers that can only afford 1 console, its a fact temptation will be there. Waiting for someone else to show its not a positive thing, it only shows incompetenced and lack of security in your own products. Less powerfull console does not equal less sales. I support sony for their gaming knowledge of producing rich content of new exciting gaming titles, not for their waiting on their rears, to see what their competitor does. Mark this day, Sony and MS will be so similar to each other this gen, that the transfer will be nearly identical, they both have 8 core cpu from the same company, if rumors are to be believe ram are the same, sony with 5gb ddr5 and ms with 8 ddr 3. ddr 5 runs 2x faster but does not carry as much, DDR5 is like having 1x ddr5 = 2ddr3. They are so similar that by comparison the main thing making the changes will occur with the GPU and how much edram will be used on the system. Either way, I dont care, cause to run most pc games its almost always been less than 4, meaning the consoles will be able to do what they can in a better scale, since they are for gaming. I hate rumors, but its all one can do till the facts comes out lol... And the articke was garbage in my own opinion, just more flamebait, for those that wants to argue and establish an escape to the virtual BS of gaming.

Sucitta4106d ago

your wall of text had me gag.. please stop.

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Irishguy954107d ago

They should wait so they can attempt to Copy the 360's impressive System Software..again.

Prodigy-X4107d ago

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what impressive system software. You mean those two generic shooters.

Prodigy-X4107d ago (Edited 4107d ago )

My bad. You talking about their bad Operating System.

NukaCola4107d ago

I remember when LIVE used to be those blades aka 6 pages of boring text. But MS ripped of Nintendo's Miis and Sony's XMB and created the NXE. Now it's I don't know what..

SandWitch4107d ago

Yeah, Sony should copy those impressive ads

kayoss4107d ago

Copy? Name me one thing that ps3 copied the Xbox 360?
1. Ps3 had wifi at launch built in. Xbox didn't you have to buy it.
2. Ps3 you could upgrade with any compatible hardrive at launch. Xbox you have to buy microsoft hard drives.
3. Ps3 you can use third party peripherials. Xbox you have to use licensed peripherials.
4. Ps3 had bluray. Xbox had DVD.
5. Ps3 had hdmi at launch. Xbox don't.
6. Ps3 was more powerful then the Xbox.
7. Xbox have impressive software I agree but the first two years. But after that Sony had more impressive exclusives and software.
I own both consoles but your comment make you an immature dumbass.

DOMination-4106d ago

He's talking about the operating system. I guess he meant in game xmb and trophies. Can't think of much more though.

extermin8or4107d ago

O_o sorry the OS was not great on the xbox, whereas the XMB has won several design awards and awards for just generally being awesome :p It may feel old now but it's still very practical and usable and looks nice- also it's served the ps3 well over it's lifetime with new stuff being able to be easily added without making it feel really confused or cluttered...

Daoshai4107d ago

To say the ps3 OS is better than the xboxs is just plain silly. Even you diehard fanboys honestly know Microsoft's is better, that's what they do.

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PS4isKing_824107d ago

I personally feel that Sony is in a better position lately. Their stock is beginning to go back up recently and Kaz is doing a great job bringing them back.

Plus they won't make the same mistake like they did with the ps3.

PS4 will be plenty capable i'm sure but also much more affordable as well like the ps2 was.

Sony will absolutely have an incredible launch planned for ps4.

So them waiting again tells me they have a plan and they're confident in it.

Otherwise they wouldn't choose to go last again.

TheOneEyedHound4107d ago

To me the only reasons they won't launch it first, either they got something big that they don't want M$ to copy, or they are not confident in their product, and will wait for M$ to release it to upgrade it better than the NEXTBOX.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg9h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos9h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola4h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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