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Sony Fined £250,000 Over PSN Hack

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has been fined £250,000 ($396,100) following a "serious breach" of the Data Protection Act.

UK authorities said a hack in April 2011 "could have been prevented".

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Prodigy-X4102d ago

This fined is really nothing. That's not much much money.

Red_Orange_Juice4102d ago

it is for the one who's getting it :D

MrDead4102d ago (Edited 4102d ago )

I think the fine would of been higher if the encrypted data was able to be accessed. The stolen data seems to be useless but I don’t think that was the point of the hack, it was retaliation against Sony for going after these people.

Anon19744102d ago

Odd. Citigroup was hacked at the exact same time and millions were stolen from their customers even though they didn't admit it for months. To my knowledge no one reported losing one cent due to the PSN hack and the regulators admitted "there is no evidence that the encrypted payment card details were accessed", which would on it's surface seem to indicate that Sony's security measures protected customer info. Yet I can't seem to find any news regarding Citigroup's fine despite the actual theft.

I'm sure that fine's coming though. Even though the media pretty much ignored the theft of millions at the time to howl because encrypted PSN data made it into the hands of hackers, I'm sure the regulators still have to address fines for lax security for Citigroup that resulted in the actual theft of money. Right?

And does anyone even remember hearing when Sega was hacked a couple of months after Sony and data from 1.3 million customers was stolen related to "Sega Pass"? Much like Sony, there was no evidence there that credit card information was taken either. Odd, I don't remember that being a big deal either.

While I understand the need to keep company's on their toes, does it not seem like for some reason the media has been fixated on Sony over this? You'd think the actual theft of millions would be bigger news, but it was almost completely ignored. And why is there never any focus on the criminals who perpetrated these crimes? If a bank is robbed, we hear about the manhunt for the robbers, or if they have no idea who the robbers were a plea to the public for help. You never hear about the bank getting fined because it's door had a slightly out of date lock on the front.

It's interesting to see how the media treats crimes differently. A bank is robbed and the criminals are responsible. A company is hacked and it's the company who is scrutinized by the media. Again, I think regulators should have a look in cases like these to make sure our information is being safeguarded by the companies we entrust the info to. I just find it questionable how the media prioritizes when it chooses to report these incidents.

nukeitall4101d ago

@darkride66:

That is a nice spin on it as usual. However, this is negligence, not the fact that "Sony was hacked".

Sony failed to put adequate measures in place to protect the sensitive data they were collecting. You should be happy somebody is doing this considering, this company didn't care to protect your data at all by:

a) not encrypting user password

b) using out of data security software

These are things that are standard for even small blogging sites, let alone a technology company that has put a lot more effort into protecting their own assets with the security against piracy on PS3.

"You never hear about the bank getting fined because it's door had a slightly out of date lock on the front."

No, they have a security guard in front and massive security in place. These other financial companies getting hacked probably had proper security measures in place.

You don't blame the company (or bank) for getting hacked (robbed), but you do blame them if they didn't take proper security measures like Sony.

It is irresponsible and negligent of Sony, and it is even more irresponsible of consumers to accept such behavior. It doesn't matter if is MS, Nintendo or any other company.

It is even worse when a consumer twist the thing around to protect a mega corporation in the wrong!

"Yet I can't seem to find any news regarding Citigroup's fine despite the actual theft."

In case you didn't know, that theft goes out of citicards pocket. Credit card fraud is a cost the credit card company pays. There is no fine, probably because they had proper security measures.

Again, it is NOT the hack that is fined, it is the lackadaisical security Sony employed.

testerg354101d ago

Umm.. its not that they were hacked, but how crappy their security was.

ZombieNinjaPanda4101d ago

The bank didn't get fined because they're deep in the pockets of corruption.

Lvl_up_gamer4101d ago

It is when you're already having to sell your assets to pay off debts because nobody will give you a loan due to your "junk" status.

Extra financial liabilities is NOT a good thing for Sony right now.

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zeal0us4102d ago

Oh no 250,000 Euros oh lawdy what will Sony do?

Rush4102d ago (Edited 4102d ago )

Don't you mean Sterling, it's a complete different currency from the Euro.

However still nothing to a business like Sony.

Kran4102d ago

Sigh...

Somebody doesnt know the difference between the euro icon and the great british pound logo.

GBP £
Euro €

They dont look alike much either

KrisButtar4102d ago

i didnt know what the difference was, thanks

MsButterbean4102d ago

And those responsible? Lulsec? When are they going to land in jail?

tachy0n4101d ago

the only responsible here is sony, imagine how crappy their security was, LOL putting user information in plain TXT files.... stop being a fanboy, for companies like sony we are just numbers.

Hicken4101d ago

Because better security stopped governments and banks from being hacked by the same group, right?

"Oh, you got robbed because the lock on your door wasn't good enough. We'll fine you instead of going after the people who broke in. We put NO responsibility on the perpetrator of the act, only the person victimized."

Is that what you'd wanna hear from the cops after somebody broke into your home?

tachy0n4101d ago

@Hicken

*facepalm*
that comparison is so stupid since companies like sony, have more than enough money to ENCRYPT user information, its sony's fault since they have the money to buy a proper security system and instead they did not cared until they got hacked.

STOP DEFENDING SONY!! SILLY FANBOYS!! FOR THEM WE ARE JUST NUMBERS!!!

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197213d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91312d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos21d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9521d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia21d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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