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Has the PlayStation Vita Failed?

Japan might still be excited about Sony's handheld, but as the first-year anniversary of the system's Western launch nears, software is looking dismal.

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majiebeast4101d ago

Been awhile since we had 1 of these...

TheLiztress4101d ago

I like to think that the Vita is just a late bloomer; that its library is going to rival that of the 3DS. Right now though, it's not looking good. But the Vita still has a chance to do well.

rrquinta4101d ago

I hope so. I really love the Vita, and I want it to succeed. I also want more great games to play on it!!

TheLiztress4101d ago

Same here. I mean, the Vita can offer a different experience than the 3DS. And I'm not saying one is better than the other. But rather, both are great in their own way.

I just want more from Sony when it comes to the Vita library.

FriedGoat4101d ago (Edited 4101d ago )

@TheLiztress
The vita library is equal to if not surpasses the 3DS library and it is not even a year old.

I have had both since launch. The 3DS had next to nothing for a year, and then Nintendo rushed out a bunch of mario games to make sales. Sounds familiar to what they've announced for the WiiU today actually, excluding the Zelda, but they do have an HD remake in there too, very familiar.

UltraVegito4101d ago (Edited 4101d ago )

Same,the Potential for this system is so Vast.

I hope sony manages to snag in more IP's like soul sacrifice and Gravity rush.
Sony needs to realize they have a amazing system and what it needs are it's own games.

The Vita is far from a failure in my eyes,and far too early to deem a failure from others just yet.

mandf4101d ago

More doom and gloom Attention n4g this type of crap hurts n4g not help it

rrquinta4101d ago

Did you even read the article? I point out the facts and how I HOPE things will change, but right now it just doesn't look good for the system.

mandf4101d ago (Edited 4101d ago )

Don't write an article if you don't want a conversation. You headline is complete fanboy drivel. You are not helping this industry. The points you make and defend are how you see it. The 3ds and 360 were in the exact same spot the first year but no one wrote about that. We have had at least a 100 articles about the same exact thing about the vita. Don't you think it's getting old. Stop writing sensational titles and you will get better response from the gaming community until then it's still a crap fanboy article for hits. Learn from this.

Every new console release has the same issues. It's just some websites like to magnify or gloss over problems as they see fit.

PinkFunk4101d ago

rrquinta,

Besides your awesome domain name "t.co", the title you chose for your article is sort of aiming for that sensationalist crap we're trying to avoid, especially considering the subject of the article.

Now, the fact that you post a comment reply only 3 minutes after mandf defending your article seems to me to indicate that you're awfully aware of the 'feedback' you'll be getting from N4G.

And if you spent any time on this website, you'd know without a doubt that a title to an article like this is considered poor sensationalism. In other words, we've seen this sort of article before, with different pros & cons.

So um, I did read your opinion piece (despite really wanting to avoid it). It was OK. IMO, considering this has been a hot topic and we've seen 100+ articles just like this one, if you wanted to set yourself apart, you might consider doing a full analysis of the subject, rather than a comparison about exclusives.

But w/e. Your title doesn't suggest this "hope" you're talking about; it's not original, and its main purpose (whether you know it or not) is to fish for hits.

edit: Nevermind on the t.co, don't know why it appears as that.

rrquinta4101d ago

I'm sorry you guys feel that way. Honestly, I love the Vita and have been disappointed that we don't have ANY games to look forward to on the system. The 3DS, which had a slow start, at least had games you knew were coming at some point in the future. I'm hopeful that E3 will change this with some big announcements, but right now, Vita owners don't have much to look forward to.

Good_Guy_Jamal4101d ago

"The 3ds and 360 were in the exact same spot the first year but no one
wrote about that"
Are you for real? I mean are you kidding right now? I mean what rock were you under when 3DS was being torn a new one everyday about its low sales which weren't even as bad as the VITA's?
I'd understand if you'd just said 360 cause who remembers 7 years ago but 3DS?? Come on now.

joeorc4101d ago

"Did you even read the article? I point out the facts and how I HOPE things will change, but right now it just doesn't look good for the system."

you point out the 3DS get's all these games but , the problem is the PSVita's development resources take longer to make games due to the fact the development of asset's are far greater for the PSVita than it is for the Nintendo 3DS. Could games be churned out faster, you bet just look at Playstation Mobile. but that is the thing Many of the games being made for the PSVita that are in development for the system are in fact lager development times required more resources made for games.

Take a look at Tearaway, KILLZONE for the PSVita look at any 3DS game and none sofar are anywhere near that budget or resources. Or time required to make such software.

Its not the same type of Handheld , the 3DS was not made for the market of Your Handheld combined with the smartphone and tablet market. the PSVita is. the longer this goes on the less and less the 3DS will be able to take advantage of that unified platform. The 3DS is arm 11's with 128 MB of system Ram a Pica 200 WITH 6 MB of dedicated video ram. GREAT FOR NOW BUT IN THE NEXT 2 YEAR'S YOU AND I BOTH KNOW NINTENDO WILL PUT OUT YET ANOTHER HANDHELD.

WHILE THE PSVita IS A QUAD CORE cortex A9 with 512 MB of system Ram, and a Quad Core SGX GPU with 128 MB of dedicated Graphic ram. even 2 years from Now PSVita will still be viable for development in parity with the higher spec's smartphones and TaBLETS. The 3DS not so much!

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dwightmccarthy4101d ago

I don't think it's failed as a handheld console but Sony failed to take advantage of its big start at launch. And i think they could do more to compete with mobile games by having more of those type of games on the PSN with trophy support and other online features

landog4101d ago (Edited 4101d ago )

i have not bought one yet, but it is getting more tempting, ragnarok looks good, soul sacrifice too

it just needs a few more rpg's to keep me busy, then i will grab one up. already own persona 4 and disgaea,

don't want ports, want NEW rpgs, throw in some srpgs and something like advance wars, plus we need some true hack and slash dungeon crawls, not a terrible port of a terrible port of a game that was on iphone first (dungeon hunter was NEVER a good game on ps3, iphone, or vita)

Ult iMate4101d ago (Edited 4101d ago )

Dungeon Hunter Alliance is not a port of any other game. It's a different game made specifically for consoles. It's a rather decent game with better design & gameplay than of mobile versions. But still not worth $40 though.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies12d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken12d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga12d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken12d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6412d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12512d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91312d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer12d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher12d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher12d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken12d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2312d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder12d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades18d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken18d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades18d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii18d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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