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I want the PS4 Controller to have a LCD Screen, just to Expose one Person

Playeressence's Furious Francis takes a look at the possibility of the PS4 having a LCD screen on the controller and how he wants to expose one person in the gaming industry with it.

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VonBraunschweigg4105d ago

Please not, it will probably make it less ergonomic. I have no problems with inventory screens and simmilar stuff on the big screen, and the mini-map definitely needs to be on TV. Sometimes you're using the mini-map every 1-2 seconds or so, try focussing in and out, away from the TV at the controller and back, multiple times in a 10 second period while processing the info...that will get you a headache for sure, and probably won't improve your game.

ElectricKaibutsu4104d ago (Edited 4104d ago )

Whenever someone who has played the Wii U for any length of time comes on N4G and says why a controller with a screen doesn't suck (like I'm about to), it always turns into that book Green Eggs and Ham. "No Sam-I-Am, I do not want a screen in my controller." C'mon, just try it!

It's like:
"You can control your TV."
"I have a remote."
"You can browse the internet."
"I have a computer."
"You can play a game while someone watches TV."
"I have 2 TVs."
"You and a friend can play co-op and each have their own screen."
"In addition to two TVs I also have two PlayStation 3s."
"You can hold it up and move it around and it seems like you're looking through a window into the game world. You can use it for on the fly weapon switching. You can use it for video chat. You can plug your standard PC mic headset into it. You can use NFC for some inexplicable reason. You can use it to search for youtube videos even while a youtube video plays on the TV. You can use it for Hulu, Netflix, Tivo and get live play updates for sports. You can use it with Google Earth and Street View to feel like you're strolling around any street on the planet. You can use it to type this very comment on N4G."
"It's too big."

All that stuff is just what developers have come up with in the first 2 months. This is no waggle motion control. A controller with a touchscreen is an actual worthy update. Again, I hope PS4 uses it. I HONESTLY think you'll enjoy it.

(edit: I know everything I said might not make it to the PS4 even if it did have a screen in the controller, but most would I'm sure. Heck, Sony would probably have a bunch of better stuff it could do too.)

one2thr4105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

After looking at my DualShock 3, I can see it having a (2in. X 1-1.5in.) touch capacitive screen on it. After they increase the dimensions by a small degree, and go with a similar PSVita modular button interface design, and even if it only displays messages or other system/game related feed back , it'll be a definite game changer (controller wise) for the PlayStation brand.

But all-in-all I'd like the controller to change, but not by a HUGE degree.

kneon4105d ago

I can see it going up to as much as a 3 inch screen, though the controller would be a little bigger. I certainly don't want a monster sized controller like with the Wii U.

one2thr4105d ago

Me neither, and a slightly bigger dualshock controller would be a great benefit for gamers with huge hands, such as myself but not to big where its like trying to play with the VERY first Xbox controller.

Amazingmrbrock4105d ago

that would be a nice size, it would work well for apps/game mods. Specially if they made a semi open market for them, easy to make, free to charged app store style.

Conzul4104d ago

DEM SCREENS GUN DRAIN THE BATTRY THO.

We'll all have to make sure we have two controllers, one to charge and one to play.

3-4-54105d ago

People who aren't regularly playing games or actually making games don't know anything about games.

IF you don't play them a lot or don't make them then shut up about them because you don't know what you are talking about.

Tons of people who make games and play them don't even know what they / we are talking about sometimes, so how would a guy who's busy most of the time and doesn't have time to play games as much and admitted he doesn't game a ton....how does this guy know anything about games ?

He doesn't. He's a con artist....and he's fooling millionaires into putting their money in places that only Benefit Mr. Pachter.

He has them put money into A...while he puts personal money into B...and trashed B while telling others to go for A.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4105d ago

OMG did you just define business? Congratz! (/sarcasm)

Let's face it, regardless of what we think/feel Pachter is just doing his job.

firelogic4105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

Even if sony puts a touchscreen on the controller, it still doesn't validate nintendo's decision on the wiiu. It's still a gimmicky idea that has no real purpose other than having a map or inventory on it, that drives up the price of the hardware.

Even if MS and Sony implement touchscreens, I'm still against it.

I'd rather look at my inventory/map on the TV where I'm looking already, than take my eyes off of the screen to look down at my controller.

KrisButtar4105d ago

You are right in my opinion, bubble up for writing what I didn't have to

Theyellowflash304105d ago

Thats what people said about the DS before it launched and early in its lifetime. Give developers time to make some innovative things. Plus your forgetting the multiplayer aspects of the Gamepad. Having a buddy come over to play Black Ops online with no splitscreen is cool. Nintendo Land mini games also prove the Wii U Gamepad can be used for more than maps and inventory screens.

EddieNX 4105d ago

Nope , that's BS.

Off screen play - You can watch TV or someone else can whilst playing , this feature has been MASSIVE for me and has literally CHANGED the way I game.
Asymmetric play- In Rayman One person uses the pro controller the other uses the touch screen to interact. This is not a gimmick but rather a fresh , perfectly functional new way of thinking about gaming. A normal controller is MORE of a gimmick than that because it can do LESS.
Having a screen each for FPS' , like in CoD where 2 players can have their own screen - Not a gimmik but a blatant evolution of gaming.

And like you say touch screen maps , inventory , etc streamline game-play meaning you don't have to pause your games all the time. Amazing.

Sorry but the wiiu Gamepad is far from a gimmik. In fact it does EVERYTHING a Normal controller can do and 10 times more. In simple terms it's far superior in every way to any controller before it which is an indisputable fact.

And if you like old school controllers then you have the Wiiu Pro controller...

firelogic4105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

Yeah and what happened with the DS? The vast majority of games use the second screen for inventory or maps. The small handful of interesting games doesn't validate having it. Same with the 3DS. How many games are out right now that utilizes 3D in a meaningful way other than simple depth perception? I would rather have a single larger screen.

And the Wii. All the flagship nintendo titles late in the Wii's life didn't use waggle. What does that say about it when the creators don't want to use it?

Also, why would I want to play any HD game for any length of time on a tiny cheap screen like the WiiU tablet? If I don't have access to the best way to play my games, I simply don't play. ie. if remote play ever becomes a thing for the PS3/Vita, I still won't use it. I tested it out with GoW2 HD and it wasn't anywhere near the quality of playing on a big screen with surround sound. I'm not so impatient that I'll hinder my limited gaming time by playing on an inferior screen.

Don't get me wrong, having more options is great! But not at the cost of the higher price.

Just to show I'm not just bashing Nintendo, I seriously hope Sony doesn't include 4k compatibility in the PS4 if it's going to raise the price in any way. I also hope they don't integrate the Move into the next controller.

On Microsoft's side, I hope they don't include Kinect in the box, but I know they will.

The next systems should just strictly be gaming consoles with no other bells and whistles. use that money to make a kick ass system at a low price point like $300-$400. Put in a good gpu, cpu, and give the devs the ton of RAM they've been wishing for.

Ck1x4105d ago

Alot of people think that the second screen thing is a gimmick. But even though WiiU just launched and the games haven't fully utilized what its capable of. Just playing a game like Darksiders 2 with the GamePad vs Controller Pro is night and day. Equiping items and weapons on the fly, searching the map for additional information or stats is made simple with the GamePad. It takes a short time to get use to because you're not familiar with that much going on in the controller. But it only takes a second to glance down at the pad and make necessary changes while gaming. After all it still has the normal controls and buttons of a full functional controller.

Benjaminkno4104d ago

Your controllers are outdated.
So you're all for graphics getting better but you don't want to play games differently?
Why have a new console if you're not going to do something different with your hardware?

Having a screen on your controller doesn't mean you have to look at it, but then again, you don't know what you're talking about.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.