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CD Projekt Red trailer: Yet another symptom of a sexist games industry

Digitally Downloaded writes: "It's a pity, because CD Projekt Red games are incredible. The Witcher 2 is my favourite western-style RPG since the original Baldur's Gate, as cringeworthy as its portrayal of women is. I have no doubt whatsoever that this game will also be incredible.

So why the heck do they feel like they need to prove the critics of the games industry right?"

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ElementX4113d ago

Well you don't want some peopleofwalmart.com women as models for the game. I suppose a lot of the male characters are butch, muscled, and have sculpted features. It's not just the gaming industry, either. Look at models for clothing, cologne, anything really.

Bathyj4113d ago

Well said. Every industry uses sex to sell.

And if I'm a guy, and I love girls, and I'm the key demographic why shouldnt the devs cater to me?

And why should I be made to feel bad about that?

000014113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

this cracks me up because, i have some friends who are male models and even they dont look as good as nathen drake or as buff as marcus phoenix. the male protagonists in the video games look as sexualized as their female counter parts. im tired of people trying to be mad about big boobed gorgeous girls in games when the men are just as superficial. how many male gamers actually look like the characters we play as in games, im sure not many.

zeal0us4113d ago

Make a trailer of a half naked muscular man with rock hard abs killing or doing etc. No one complains but half naked women YA GONE TOO FAR!!!!

SilentNegotiator4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

"Whatcha got there? A game where a muscular guy runs around in a loincloth? Cool"

"Whatcha got there? A game with a woman that is half-dressed?!!?! OMG DATS SEXIST!!!"

Most games feature attractive males and females. What we have here is an exaggerated issue, I tell you what.

Red_Orange_Juice4113d ago

not sexist, that's how humans work, it's call biology

hay4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Sooo... Extremely instable, dangerous, blood dripping blade equipped female cyber psychopat is kneeing among massacrated and mutilated people and that's sexist for some because as a predator she's dressed provocative?
While more sexist stuff is being projected into minds of minors by the mainstream media?

Damn world went wrong. And stupid.

ravinash4113d ago

It's basically super stimulus.
Enhancing the items beyond their normal form to heighten their attractiveness.

http://enhancingmylife.blog...

nveenio4113d ago

Boo hoo, someone made women look beautiful... How lame that the characters aren't chubby, gassy, and not willing to shave their legs in the winter...

I'm not for objectifying women, but let's face it...we're animals. If someone wants to provide me a beautiful woman to look at, there's nothing wrong with that. I don't get all bent out of shape over Marcus, Drake, Depp or Pitt... If women have a problem with beautiful women, maybe they should try being beautiful themselves. As it is now, it seems like women who complain about this stuff are just jealous. OF A CARTOON. It's pathetic. Therapy worthy, even.

slayorofgods4113d ago

A different perspective...

I actually think cdprojekt is ahead of its time as far as incorporating sex in games.. In the industry today it's still considered taboo to go very far with it even though Hollywood goes much further.

Cdprojekt games such as Witcher 2 also has a more grown up / mature feel to it.. I give them props for everything they do...

MmaFan-Qc4113d ago

peoples who whine about sexism in media/games are usually simply a bunch of jealous fat cows and ugly girls.

FACT!

ZombieNinjaPanda4113d ago

Sexism: Prejudice or discrimination based upon sex.

Another term that has become a buzzword.

Parasyte4113d ago

It's the sad reality of the double standard that is present in our society.

snipes1014112d ago

I'd say that this article is a pretty good summation of what element said:

http://geekrevolt.com/2012/...

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Bimkoblerutso4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

I don't really like being associated with the folks that accuse every pretty lady portrayed in the media of conforming to a sexist agenda (and god knows given our lack of context, this is not the time to already be throwing the "sexist" card around for this game), but it WOULD be nice to get some female characters that weren't super-sexualized and/or over-empowered. You rarely get that in games, even for male characters.

It has always been my stance that there is nothing wrong with sexuality existing in games, but at some point it gets goddamn boring seeing the same characters portrayed with different sexy skins.

Again though, just speaking generally. I am VERY excited for 2077.

DeadlyFire4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

WTF is this crap. Sexist? ...............

Submit another article like this MattS and I will block you and hopefully anything you submit.

Don't disrespect Cyberpunk 2077 without having the full game in your hand and actually witnessing the way it is meant to be portrayed. Right now everything your writing is an assumption. We all know what that means.

dedicatedtogamers4113d ago

Videogames are meant to be played. They are games. They are designed for us to escape and enjoy a fantasy world. It's entertainment. If we're allowed to conquer galaxies and annihilate nazis and fly through the air in a jet and besiege castles (oh wait, we're not, because that makes us violent...), then I don't see why it's such a big deal that we would be allowed to look at an attractively-designed fictional character.

Why would I want to play "Irritating, Lumpy, Lady in the Grocery-Store Simulator 2013"?

Cosmo8114113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

You fundamentally misunderstand the issue. Those male character are not sexualised. You do not enjoy playing as them because they are sexy, and women do not either. When a man in a video game is butch and muscled with a strong jawline, husky voice, etc. it's about POWER, NOT sex. If they were walking around in skin-tight speedos bulging at the front THEN they would be sexualised. But they are not. They are "powerised", so to speak.

AznGaara4113d ago

It's sad that this article has more hits than the actual trailer itself. -_-

Christopher4113d ago

Not really all that good of a trailer to use to rail against a sexist industry. After all, in the end, she ends up bald and wearing combat gear that hides her features...

Nothing in this trailer suggests that the person will play or look like that the whole game. Seeing one scantily clad woman throughout does not suggest the direction of the game similar to how the nuns in Hitman: Absolution are not in the whole game either.

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Mutant-Spud4112d ago (Edited 4112d ago )

Riiight, and the Witcher games aren't "sexist" if you apply the same standards? When you hear words like "Sexism" or "Racism" they'll immediately be followed up with hypocrisy or a double standard.
Geralt having sex with hookers and collecting saucy cards with their picture on it isn't sexist but the new CD Projekt trailer is...I see.
The stupidity here is that when the first Witcher game was released these dumb liberal "writers" were screeching about "misogyny" and sexism yet here this noob is praising them...you just have to shake your head.
Fake scandal is fake, like RE5 was "racist" but "no Russian" wasn't a problem, White protagonists slaying waves of Africans "The Horror!", White protagonists slaying waves of Whites..meh...

Hydralysk4111d ago (Edited 4111d ago )

You do realise what racism is right? As in discrimination based on race, not nationality.

You could argue that the violence was worse in CoD2, but there is a big difference between white psychopaths shooting up white civilians, and a white heroic protagonist with arms the size of melons killing hordes of African tribals throwing spears at you from their swamp huts...

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Godmars2904113d ago

Right now its just an announcement.

Also got from the trailer that the woman being shot at was the same as the one in the copper suiting up at the very end.

greatcrusader444113d ago

It almost certainly is. Remember how the woman got shot in the cheek and it left a scrape? Woman suiting up at the end has the exact same bullet scrape on her cheek.

Christopher4113d ago

And you know how sexy bald women are, Godmars. Just look at them flaunt about her bald head for those few seconds. Heck, why don't they just strip her naked if that's how she's going to look the whole game! /s

Godmars2904113d ago

Wait, what? What?

Two women in what could be in different positions of the same situation who both have the exact same scar on their cheek.

What is it with the baldness?

joab7774113d ago

Exactly. Its getting absurd! espn just appologized for innocent compliments from brent musberger. Her boyfriend/QB wasnt pissed because of comments but because she ia getting more attention than alabama. She was miss alabama...r u kidding me. And now, as soon as a great trailer is released by a great company for what is sure to be a great game, we get trolling articles like this.

Cosmo8114113d ago

Video games are just as valid a form of art as movies or paintings. It's time they started being held to the same standards.

prototypeknuckles4113d ago

oh but its okay if movies do it, no problem at all, this guy needs to F off

MattS4113d ago

didn't read it, did you? Article quite explicitly states that it's not OK when movies do it.

prototypeknuckles4113d ago

ill admit, that this is the first time i havnt read the article and only looked at the title, mostly because im gettting tired of these sexism in gaming articles, its just getting redundant, lets be honest who walks around looking as buff as kratos, marcus fenix, or as perfect as nathan drake, so i apologize.

joab7774113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

So, u only wanna see certain types of movies and games. Not realistic ones or fantasy ones, but PC (politically correct) ones that reflect an altruistic version that meets somebodys standards. We dont actually know these standards cuz they change everyday, the result of a reletavistic society. Remember that while trying to implement your certain type of morality u box everyone else in. This is just absurdity that results from boredom. Instead of allowing freedom and money (or demand) to decide, u want to decide for us. Many women watch movies and many more play games. If it is meant to change, it will. I am tired of being lectured to by quasi-moralists.

Pandamobile4113d ago

Stereotypes and sexism often goes both ways in any form of media.

It's automatically not okay for a hail of bullets to be fired upon a female robot, but it'd be a-okay for a hail of bullets fired upon a dude.

Hicken4113d ago

Love how the comments are already closed. Got something to hide? Or just not able to deal with the consequences of your ill-thought-out actions?

Put simply: you're reaching. I guess you can take comfort in the fact that you're not the only one, but... really, you should stop. As a female commenter on the article said, you're doing no one any good.

It's great that you want to end sexism in gaming, but you have to KNOW WHAT SEXISM IS FIRST. You, obviously, do not. Rather, you are superimposing a projection of sexism onto a situation where none is present.

Ironic that you talk about the video having a lack of context, and then supply your own in the way of screaming "SEXISM!!!!"

Pathetic.

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Phil324113d ago

Great [not] reading [the article at all] skills there, chief.

jrbeerman114113d ago

to be honest, i dont fault him for not giving a hit to a site looking for cheap hits.

TiberusX874113d ago

I would also like to point out that you see the woman suiting up at the end of the trailer. I don't think this says anything for sexism against women.

BanBrother4113d ago

I find the new Dante sexist. No guy I know is that handsome (whether you like the game or not, you can see he is one sexy bitch lol).

Too bad I was born a white, middle class male. I never fit into any minority, thus have no 'right' to complain. Even so, I wouldn't exactly call females a minority.

Megaton4113d ago

Some people just sit around at their computer all day waiting for something to get angry about. Enter MattS, hypersensitive blogger and N4G contributor.

jrbeerman114113d ago

its the problem with media these days is any ignorant person can write an article to complain about anything.

Just look at what happened with miss alabama and the rose bowl. 99% of people disagree with all the complaints about an announcer calling a pageant winner beautiful. but you only hear the ignorant 1% in the news.

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CD Projekt Red Thinking About Cyberpunk's Mobile Version

During CD Projekt’s Fiscal Year 2023 earnings call, CEO Michael Nowakowski said that the company is keen on licensing its IP rights to third-party developers to create mobile adaptations of its titles.

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Cyberpunk 2077 Developer Shares Stance On Microtransactions, Offers Update On Upcoming Projects

CD Projekt, the developer behind The Witcher/Cyberpunk 2077, has stated that there is no place for microtransactions in single-player games.

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anast16d ago

MP games need micros to keep the lights on. Path of Exile is a good game with micros. It can be done as long is the game is not the scheme itself.

CrimsonWing6915d ago (Edited 15d ago )

You end up paying more than $70 in micros for a game specifically designed around them and that’s not a “scheme” by design?

I’ve played plenty of great MP games that didn’t have micros. I love how at one point we were like micros bad, GaaS bad, and now we’re like, well GaaS is MP so it’s ok.

anast15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Path is a free game. How else are they supposed to keep the servers on? You don't need up spending more . I've been playing the game since the beginning and I've spent less than $20.

Destiny on the other hand....

An MP game embedded in a SP game shouldn't have them.

I know you understand this. I have to be optimistic here.

CrimsonWing6915d ago

@anast

I’d argue “free to play” are more egregious than just a traditional pay to play game. You end up spending far more on a game than just $70 and I think the “free” games are sneaky by design to make a consumer think “well, it’s free, let me dump money into it.” I mean, they’re specifically designed to make you continuously put money into them. I heard with Path of Exile you hit a point where the grind is obnoxious without buying micros.

lucian22915d ago

Odd, I remember micro transactions for Witcher 3

CrimsonWing6914d ago

What micro-transactions do you remember being in Witcher 3?

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

I agree, I never pay for microtransactions, and in the few cases where I have, I've felt dirty afterwards, especially when older games used to give you so much content for free (like cosmetics).

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Cyberpunk 2077 Generated $752 million in Revenue as CD Projekt Shares Update on its Future Games

Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher developer CD Projekt hosted its fiscal year 2023 earnings conference, and provided details about its games and business alongside comments on the use of generative AI and licensing its IPs for mobile games.

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just_looken18d ago

Though this news in a way should be good new trilogy making cash taking a break from cyberpunk and all that i would like to reminded everyone that the new cdpr is pro esg. There focus going forward is to make games for everyone so the next witcher will have less everything watch the swearing/blood be political the main character might just be a woman that is trans lesbian perhaps likes dogs who knows.

see video cfo cdpr there new esg vision
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I am a witcher fan enjoyed cyberpunk but i know the old devs are all gone the people that made red engine are all gone so this is a new team with a new visions under the esg the same esg that looks at a company like sweet baby as visionaries.

So take this news with a grain of salt as the chance of witcher 3 magic again is very low seeing how starfield removed gore to appease the masses and we are gun ho with live service. We will see what this looks like but keep your expectations low.

I mean remember how netflix wither is being handled though yes more on that teams side than cdpr but yikes.

I will leave rebel wolves site they are made up from former cdpr devs
https://rebel-wolves.com/

Though still hush hush on there new rpg.

Zeref18d ago

Not sure what's bad about esg. But you mentioned Sweet Baby Inc. So I'm gonna say you're one of those

AdonisIsBeast18d ago

Lol you must be very sheltered to not pay attention to what esg is doing to the United States

TheColbertinator18d ago

Definitely one of those. I would laugh if they weren't so pathetic.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Esg/blackrock are the behind the scenes companies like the old mgs games were the say our leaders are puppets.

esg promo vid
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Instead of making a game a game they make it to the esg stranded or how i call it the clipboard effect.

Here is a good fyi video about esg and disney
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

CrimsonWing6918d ago

I honestly think Cyberpunk is one of the best games I’ve played this gen. The immersion is still better than any game I’ve played in the past several years. Really glad this did well, but we all know CDPR better not bull sh*t people with fake trailer and gameplay previews or try to hide a dumpster fire last-gen version of a game.

just_looken17d ago

They made more than 2 game series by the way there pokemon go clone failed and gwent is basically dead so in a way they already have.

And now they are pro esg