XBox Next/720 silicon production day arrives

Remember when SemiAccurate exclusively brought you the news about the XBox Next/720′s main chip taping out? Remember when we said customer silicon was likely to go in to production in 2012? Guess what?

[jujubee88]

New MS console in 2013 confirmed.

Now . . . How about that PS4?

[redDevil87]

Wait for an announcement about the PS4.

[jujubee88]

Hmmm. A novel concept if I had ever heard one. Sorry, I wont wait. My breed do not know of such a word.

I will browse every rumor, divine every bit of online speculation, and pray to the gaming gods for a VITA+PS4 budle and entry level SKU under $400 USD. All this I will do until the day comes that Sony announces something (anything) officially.

Wait? It has already been far too long since I got my high...and all I did was click "refresh" (on another PS4 rumor). DO YOU SEE? DO YOU SEE NOW?!?

I am clinically insane, is what I'm saying. ^____^

[HammadTheBeast]

^ Never happening sorry.

[sikbeta]

MS launching first will kill any PS4 chances to sell well in US+UK, this gen went for too long, the core is starving for a new beast of Console...

[kneon]

@jujubee88

I don't want a $400 Vita+Ps4 bundle because that would mean they cheaped out on the tech in the PS4.

If we're going to get a new console it should be a worthwhile upgrade, not just a minor improvement in features and performance.

[ProjectVulcan]

According to this source from long ago, the next Playstation was supposed to be a bunch of fast separate chips possibly on an MCM while the next Xbox silicon here is supposed to be a Fusion style SoC. BOTH machines according to the source claim to be AMD lockouts, AMD CPUs and GPUs. However other sources claim Microsoft have gone with an IBM CPU.

All we have heard since from a bunch of alternate sources though is that Sony are in fact the ones going in on the SoC 'fusion' style concept. Sony are the ones who apparently have gone for the x86 bulldozer CPU and AMD GPU.

It is difficult to separate fact from fiction here as the waters are still hazy.

I like looking at these articles and remembering all the rumours a couple years down the line from now, so we'll see who was closest and try to +1 them.

[BitbyDeath]

"Now . . . How about that PS4?"

Here ye go
http://n4g.com/news/1146014...

PS1 ended production 24th March 2006
(just 8 months before the PS3 released)

http://au.gamespot.com/news...

Which means we may see the PS4 release as early as September this year.

[DeadlyFire]

3-6 months later PS4 arrives Spring 2014! I expect PS4 production to start Mid 2013.

That's just my opinion though. No facts to go on at the moment other than the way the patents got released. Only a couple of months apart with XB3 being first and PS4 being 2nd. Production and release will likely be along those lines.

[Knight_Crawler]

I do not think its a good idea for Sony to launch the PS4 ater the 720 - 3-6 month is not bad but if Sony releases the PS4 a year later they will be in big trouble.

Next gen is diffrent being that no gen has ever lasted more than 5 years so gamers will be exreamly hungry to play a next gen console - console loyalty will not matter and gamers will buy the first next gen console to release.

[DeadlyFire]

Well either way I am buying PS4 first. I bought X360 first last gen and it didn't please me. I own 90% of my games on PS3/PC.

Unless Microsoft can pull out more than one new great IP that can entice me to think of Xbox as more than just Halobox I believe I will be standing my ground.

[sikbeta]

OK, see what happened this gen when Sony launched after the X360 and how MS totally won the US+UK market after the Wii appeal died down? guess what's going to happen now that MS became a powerhouse by its own....

America = Xbox-Land

[kneon]

Sony releasing the PS3 later than the 360 was only a problem for the media and fanboys. They are now pretty well tied in overall sales despite the PS3 launching 12-24 months after the 360 depending on the region.

So the PS3 sold at a faster rate than the 360 even though it's been the most expensive console throughout this generation.

[nunley33]

@sikbeta, xbox 360 has sold better over in the united states but not by much. and ps3 has outsold it in uk+japan. so 360=america land but PS3=UK+Japan land and this was after launching a year late.

[Thatguy-310]

Think Microsoft console will come out first but Sony will follow it couple of months later. They won't wait a whole yr like this Gen.

[Kurt Russell]

I'm calling October for Xbox.

[morkendo23]

According to MS game programmer production crew member a PERSONAL friend I SEE DAILY. has his take on "DURANGO" : "Quality control" is having problems with heatsink testing and cooling ventilation once again also inferred connectivites issues ( kinect) 720 maybe delayed til mid 2014

this was mention in nov. 2012

[Lvl_up_gamer]

Can't wait. 2013 is going to be a great year for gaming.

Xbox 720 day 1 buy for me. Just need the date. Reveal should be coming before summer.

[iGamerZERO]

Wow ! Your comment is clean and right to the point of what you would like to see happen in 2013 and you got disagrees , gotta remember theres a ton of broke ham n Eggers on N4G that just saved enough for current gen consoles and are sweating the idea of new consoles.........I'm buying PS4 , Xbox next and a steam box with hesitation DAY ONE.....

[SilentNegotiator]

It's called "comment history" and "agenda"

[JamieL]

@ silent
You would know a lot about that huh? You're right though, your "comment history" clearly shows YOUR "agenda".
Hypocrites, gotta love'em.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

After reading the article... I don't think this is confirmation that the silicon issues are resolved. This merely is an article saying the production date has come and if they aren't producing by now, we wont see it in 2013. There was no concrete source stating the kinks were ironed out.

Edit from the article:

"While we have not definitively heard about a go/no go wafer in decision, if Microsoft is going to launch their next generation console this year, they almost assuredly made the December 31 date. Any delay of more than a few weeks will mean no new console in 2013, there just won’t be enough time to make them. If no one credible leaks news soon, I wouldn’t go stand in line for a new Microsoft console in late August."

[RandomDude655]

There was actually a rumor not too long ago about MS delaying by six months, and there hasn't been any word about if the yields/problems improved.

I personally think they missed it.

Should find out in a couple months anyway.

[DiRtY]

There has been a rumor and because there hasn't been another rumor contradicting the previous rumor, it might be true!

3 - 4 months and we will find out.

[bobshi]

Absolutely.

This article is trash.

It even says itself that they haven't actually received word that the deadline was met!

And that was a deadline set in summer 2011. Clearly the author has never worked in a deadline driven environment, because deadlines are hardly ever kept - especially not when they're set over a year in advance.

[IAMERROR]

I personally believe the 720 is coming out this year. There's a reason they're releasing GOW:J early in the year instead of the near-end of the year GOW titles always had. The Holidays will be dedicated to the 720 and launch games.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I agree that the plan certainly is for the next Xbox to hit in 2013. Their Calendar of games (lack of) for the first half screams new system. BUT.... if they really are having issues with the silicon fab still then no matter what they "want" wouldn't matter since this would dictate the production.

Most likely I think they do a staggered launch and launch in NA first especially if they have limited units.

[IAMERROR]

Pretty much what I think, they might do a limited release late in 2013.

[akaakaaka]

this is the most logical way of thinking and it seem that few n4g kids can't use logic..

Playstation, XBOX and even 3rd party devs games are in the first half of 2013, the second half is a mystery with few games which is normal for PS3 and 360 to still be supported after PS4 and new XBOX is out.

[00001]

im thinking with the non-stop next generation talk as of the last month, now that it is 2013 hopefully we start getting news of some next gen games! >:D

[IAMERROR]

I want to see some next gen games already! :3

[3-4-5]

Sounds legit. Which means expect Xbox 720 in Feb 2014...

If they released earlier there will be RRoD type bugs. They need time to see if time effects their machine.

[god_mode]

Definitely think that the 720 will be out by Xmas of 2013.

I really hope it does look like the mocks provided by OXM. That console looked sexy and would be a sure day 1 from me.

[Wikkid666]

The cpu is being manufactured by Global Foundries. Test runs have been going on for several months.

[TemplarDante]

^Exactly.

[ajax17]

It's going to be a great year ≧◡≦

[BitbyDeath]

Why do i get the feeling this year is just going to drag waiting for these to arrive. -_-

[CC-Tron]

The year might drag but the months will fly. The months might drag but the days will fly. The days might drag but the hours will fly.....

[cannon8800]

hey you should be a rapper.

[mochachino]

Give me a taste of the next-gen PLEASE! Just a quarter of a screenshot of a PS4/NeXbox would be satisfy me.

This will be the biggest E3 in half a decade.

[Plagasx]

Go play some PC games to satisfy some of your next gen cravings. :)

[mochachino]

I don't want HD 60FPS versions of current gen games, I want next-gen.

Don't get me wrong, PC games look great but leaps in graphics are dictated by console generations. Currently, PC mostly gets ports of console games as most of the profit from AAA is from consoles.

Next-gen graphics engines are held being held back until the next-gen consoles release (U4, Luminous, etc). PC gamers should equally anticipate the next-gen consoles as their get ports will utilize the next-gen engines finally.

The next-gen starts when next-gen consoles release.

[TemplarDante]

Take what Charlie says with a pinch of salt..
Trust me.. Ive read semi-accurate countless times in the last 6 months. The speculations and rumors abound they spread, then they try to intepret it, but it was Never true to begin with..
All Im saying is.. Charlie has been known to Bs many times..
Look how he worded the article.
Basically, he says, IF they havnt started fabbing by now.. it wont release 2013. YET, there were rumors since August saying the Nextbox is so intricate, there were delays with yields. Charlie is basing this entire article on a date he was told (31 December 2012) fabbing would need to start to make a holiday 2013 launch date. Any later and MS cant launch 2013.

[evilhasitsway]

first off im fine with the games that ps3 will get this year xbox can just take it were the sun doesnt shine. i will buy ps4 as i have always been a sony fan. dont get me wrong xbox is a ok system but the exclusives are much better for sony. and on top of that who wants to pay to play online another reason sony is the way to go. im not poor but why in the hell should we have to pay for that gay. and as for steam box not buying it. if you have read anything on it, it is being made for concle players who want to play pc games. me i have a awesome pc that plays the same games that the steam box will have which will probley be the games that are on steam which half of them are lame anyways. sorry for the rant but hey someone had to kill the steam box. oh yeah even if the ps4 comes out before 720 sony still wont hurt that bad cause look at all the money they will make with the exclusives coming out this year so many. i will say that i believe ps4 will hit shelves before or same time as 720 i think sony is just keeping a lid on it to get the surprise on ms.

[TheKayle]

ps4 will arrive after the end of the first new xbox prodution cycle...coz ms own contract with companies that will produce the chips wafer ...sony HAVE to wait coz they will produce in the same fabs ...

semi accurate told us this.....beyond3d told us this....guru3d told us this.....so better for u ...u take it for real

so u will need to wait 6/8 months at least after the next xbox

"The discussion comes from Semi Accurate, although much of what’s mentioned has appeared elsewhere over the last few months. Regardless, the report mentions two codenames: Kryptos – the next Xbox, and Thebes – the PS4.

The chipset in the PS4 – apparently an AMD CPU and GPU – is likely to be fabricated at Global Foundries or IBM initially, with the Xbox’s “Oban” chip first out of the line.

"That would most likely be the spring of 2014, but it could be fall of that year too,” says the site.""

ps4 will be announced (is the only thing sony can do ..to stop xbox hyping) but will arrive after the xbox

[chukamachine]

I still won't buy a nextbox720. Same old games and pay to play online. They won't change it because they make too much money on it.

PS4 all the way.:)

[00000000000000000001]

Could this be the reason why Major Nelson has a countdown to E3 2013??????????????????

[tisoyboy2]

If Sony doesn't launch at the same time as Microsoft they are dead in the water. Even if they launch within a few months it will cost them years of trailing behind in sales. If they do make the mistake of launching second, they will have to under price the next Xbox while still matching or surpassing their GPU. Also, will PS4 online be cross-gen? If yes, then they will have to continue to offer free online services.