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XBox Next/720 silicon production day arrives

Remember when SemiAccurate exclusively brought you the news about the XBox Next/720′s main chip taping out? Remember when we said customer silicon was likely to go in to production in 2012? Guess what?

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jujubee884125d ago

New MS console in 2013 confirmed.

Now . . . How about that PS4?

redDevil874125d ago

Wait for an announcement about the PS4.

jujubee884125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

Hmmm. A novel concept if I had ever heard one. Sorry, I wont wait. My breed do not know of such a word.

I will browse every rumor, divine every bit of online speculation, and pray to the gaming gods for a VITA+PS4 budle and entry level SKU under $400 USD. All this I will do until the day comes that Sony announces something (anything) officially.

Wait? It has already been far too long since I got my high...and all I did was click "refresh" (on another PS4 rumor). DO YOU SEE? DO YOU SEE NOW?!?

I am clinically insane, is what I'm saying. ^____^

sikbeta4125d ago

MS launching first will kill any PS4 chances to sell well in US+UK, this gen went for too long, the core is starving for a new beast of Console...

kneon4125d ago

@jujubee88

I don't want a $400 Vita+Ps4 bundle because that would mean they cheaped out on the tech in the PS4.

If we're going to get a new console it should be a worthwhile upgrade, not just a minor improvement in features and performance.

ProjectVulcan4124d ago (Edited 4124d ago )

According to this source from long ago, the next Playstation was supposed to be a bunch of fast separate chips possibly on an MCM while the next Xbox silicon here is supposed to be a Fusion style SoC. BOTH machines according to the source claim to be AMD lockouts, AMD CPUs and GPUs. However other sources claim Microsoft have gone with an IBM CPU.

All we have heard since from a bunch of alternate sources though is that Sony are in fact the ones going in on the SoC 'fusion' style concept. Sony are the ones who apparently have gone for the x86 bulldozer CPU and AMD GPU.

It is difficult to separate fact from fiction here as the waters are still hazy.

I like looking at these articles and remembering all the rumours a couple years down the line from now, so we'll see who was closest and try to +1 them.

BitbyDeath4124d ago (Edited 4124d ago )

"Now . . . How about that PS4?"

Here ye go
http://n4g.com/news/1146014...

PS1 ended production 24th March 2006
(just 8 months before the PS3 released)

http://au.gamespot.com/news...

Which means we may see the PS4 release as early as September this year.

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DeadlyFire4125d ago

3-6 months later PS4 arrives Spring 2014! I expect PS4 production to start Mid 2013.

That's just my opinion though. No facts to go on at the moment other than the way the patents got released. Only a couple of months apart with XB3 being first and PS4 being 2nd. Production and release will likely be along those lines.

Knight_Crawler4125d ago

I do not think its a good idea for Sony to launch the PS4 ater the 720 - 3-6 month is not bad but if Sony releases the PS4 a year later they will be in big trouble.

Next gen is diffrent being that no gen has ever lasted more than 5 years so gamers will be exreamly hungry to play a next gen console - console loyalty will not matter and gamers will buy the first next gen console to release.

DeadlyFire4125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

Well either way I am buying PS4 first. I bought X360 first last gen and it didn't please me. I own 90% of my games on PS3/PC.

Unless Microsoft can pull out more than one new great IP that can entice me to think of Xbox as more than just Halobox I believe I will be standing my ground.

sikbeta4125d ago

OK, see what happened this gen when Sony launched after the X360 and how MS totally won the US+UK market after the Wii appeal died down? guess what's going to happen now that MS became a powerhouse by its own....

America = Xbox-Land

kneon4125d ago

Sony releasing the PS3 later than the 360 was only a problem for the media and fanboys. They are now pretty well tied in overall sales despite the PS3 launching 12-24 months after the 360 depending on the region.

So the PS3 sold at a faster rate than the 360 even though it's been the most expensive console throughout this generation.

nunley334124d ago

@sikbeta, xbox 360 has sold better over in the united states but not by much. and ps3 has outsold it in uk+japan. so 360=america land but PS3=UK+Japan land and this was after launching a year late.

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Thatguy-3104125d ago

Think Microsoft console will come out first but Sony will follow it couple of months later. They won't wait a whole yr like this Gen.

Kurt Russell4124d ago

I'm calling October for Xbox.

morkendo234124d ago

According to MS game programmer production crew member a PERSONAL friend I SEE DAILY. has his take on "DURANGO" : "Quality control" is having problems with heatsink testing and cooling ventilation once again also inferred connectivites issues ( kinect) 720 maybe delayed til mid 2014

this was mention in nov. 2012

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Lvl_up_gamer4125d ago

Can't wait. 2013 is going to be a great year for gaming.

Xbox 720 day 1 buy for me. Just need the date. Reveal should be coming before summer.

iGamerZERO4125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

Wow ! Your comment is clean and right to the point of what you would like to see happen in 2013 and you got disagrees , gotta remember theres a ton of broke ham n Eggers on N4G that just saved enough for current gen consoles and are sweating the idea of new consoles.........I'm buying PS4 , Xbox next and a steam box with hesitation DAY ONE.....

SilentNegotiator4123d ago

It's called "comment history" and "agenda"

JamieL4123d ago (Edited 4123d ago )

@ silent
You would know a lot about that huh? You're right though, your "comment history" clearly shows YOUR "agenda".
Hypocrites, gotta love'em.

OC_MurphysLaw4125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

After reading the article... I don't think this is confirmation that the silicon issues are resolved. This merely is an article saying the production date has come and if they aren't producing by now, we wont see it in 2013. There was no concrete source stating the kinks were ironed out.

Edit from the article:

"While we have not definitively heard about a go/no go wafer in decision, if Microsoft is going to launch their next generation console this year, they almost assuredly made the December 31 date. Any delay of more than a few weeks will mean no new console in 2013, there just won’t be enough time to make them. If no one credible leaks news soon, I wouldn’t go stand in line for a new Microsoft console in late August."

RandomDude6554125d ago

There was actually a rumor not too long ago about MS delaying by six months, and there hasn't been any word about if the yields/problems improved.

I personally think they missed it.

Should find out in a couple months anyway.

DiRtY4125d ago

There has been a rumor and because there hasn't been another rumor contradicting the previous rumor, it might be true!

3 - 4 months and we will find out.

bobshi4125d ago

Absolutely.

This article is trash.

It even says itself that they haven't actually received word that the deadline was met!

And that was a deadline set in summer 2011. Clearly the author has never worked in a deadline driven environment, because deadlines are hardly ever kept - especially not when they're set over a year in advance.

IAMERROR4125d ago

I personally believe the 720 is coming out this year. There's a reason they're releasing GOW:J early in the year instead of the near-end of the year GOW titles always had. The Holidays will be dedicated to the 720 and launch games.

OC_MurphysLaw4125d ago

I agree that the plan certainly is for the next Xbox to hit in 2013. Their Calendar of games (lack of) for the first half screams new system. BUT.... if they really are having issues with the silicon fab still then no matter what they "want" wouldn't matter since this would dictate the production.

Most likely I think they do a staggered launch and launch in NA first especially if they have limited units.

IAMERROR4125d ago

Pretty much what I think, they might do a limited release late in 2013.

akaakaaka4125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

this is the most logical way of thinking and it seem that few n4g kids can't use logic..

Playstation, XBOX and even 3rd party devs games are in the first half of 2013, the second half is a mystery with few games which is normal for PS3 and 360 to still be supported after PS4 and new XBOX is out.

000014125d ago

im thinking with the non-stop next generation talk as of the last month, now that it is 2013 hopefully we start getting news of some next gen games! >:D

IAMERROR4125d ago

I want to see some next gen games already! :3

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 21h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga23h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 20h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde1d 3h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 18h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 18h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 18h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 22h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 20h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy852d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted2d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere2d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook72d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy852d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga2d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher1d 21h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble1d 16h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike2d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv722d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

BoneMagnus1d 23h ago

@darth - Nice collection!

crazyCoconuts1d 18h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire1d 23h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga1d 21h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk2d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7212d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty1d 18h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds2d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx122d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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