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PlayStation’s Cross-Controller is good but Wii U does it better

Gc writes, "After having time with the PlayStation’s Cross-Controller feature we can confirm that this is a decent little feature and one that we hope will build on the promising potential. We would love to say that Cross-Controller would become a staple to feature to PS3 games but we have serious doubts that it will even feature in games on a regular basis."

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Hatsune-Miku4135d ago (Edited 4135d ago )

So one of the worst idea for video games Sony ps3 doesn't do as well as the wii u. A feature that will take focus away from the tv continuously keeping the player from being immersed in a game is a distraction. Its a silly idea with bad technology in the first place. Learning to use a game controller without looking down at the buttons is something gamers strives to do when they started playing games so forcing someone to do that is silly.

Hot-keys have been in gaming a while where gamers can assign certain actions to specific buttons so the wii u idea is a step back in gaming like the wiimote. Wiimote is an inaccurate controller that mamajority % of Wii games worse to play and now this gimmick the wii u pad is another bad idea that can be solved by using hot-keys. The vita has a way better touchscreen and higher resolution screen than the wii u pad which is silly on Nintendos part for adding shoddy parts on their systems like always.

I know a lot Wii u buyers are beginning to realize what a silly idea it is to constantly look on the wii u pad to interact with the game and press the screen. The expensive screen controller is just a gimmick that siphoned resources that could have made the wii u more powerful. The expensive controller shouldnt be expensive either because the tech in it are old from 10years ago.Wii u is rubbish

browngamer414135d ago

I think your constant bashing of Nintendo is "rubbish"...the gamepad is a game changer whether you like it or not, it's weird how I use my gamepad everyday and have yet to think "well this is silly" in fact my love for this system grows every time I use it..gtfo

zgoldenlionz4134d ago

I have to lol at gamechanger. It's just a touchscreen chill out bro.

Is there some rule somewhere that states you either have to blindly love a developer/publisher/console maker or gtfo?

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Qrphe4134d ago

Why do you people keep on replying?w

ABizzel14134d ago

The gamepad is a console + TV version of the DS / 3DS. It's a nice feature (nice gimmick to those who dislike Nintendo), but it's not a game changer.

browngamer414134d ago

Haha..you guys are idiots ..like I give a damn about your disagrees or if you think it's a game changer or not-"bro"...like I said above it's a game changer and you will see that when Sony copy's the sh*t out of it like always..

SilentNegotiator4134d ago

lol "game changer"

All it does is slow down things that could be done before via the controller. Scopes work fine on the actual screen, item management works fine with a D-pad, and maps in the corner were NEVER a problem.

zgoldenlionz4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

Cry much? Hope you got it all out.

Whats the deal with all the rage, it's just video games no reason to get all hostile. Only reason I even comment is your way too damn serious over nothing. Who really cares what this miku character thinks your acting like they are talking trash about your grandma. Just chill take a deep breath and try maybe put the controller down for a while.

There is no reason to bash either console but everyday Aholes like you and miku fight over the dumbest of things.

I've been a gamer for almost 25 years got my first console the NES when I was 6 and can't see how anyone can be more enthusiastic or excited about games than myself and I still can't understand all the fighting over nothing. Games are meant to be enjoyed so shut up and play.

If you really need to fight so hard in a comment section over a video game article I suggest finding something meaningful to invest your time in cause this is really pointless.

Schawk4134d ago

The Gamepad is possibly the best control ever made, no shit

herbs4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

I enjoy trolling trolls even though I admit it is a waste of time ;]
By the way why did thepcz get his bubble hidden for trolling when he was just stating facts?

MaxXAttaxX4133d ago (Edited 4133d ago )

* The GamePad is a controller.
* The PS Vita is a gaming device.
* The GamePad is a dedicated extension of the Wii U.
* The PS Vita plays its own games, apps and media independent of the PS3, anywhere. Cross-Controller is just a bonus feature out of many, NOT its only use.

They're different. They have different purposes, so why compare?

@browngamer41,
Except Sony announced this feature and released the Vita before the Wii U.

PS-Analog4133d ago

@Nathan. A lot of you have some good opinions and I agree with some of your oinions when comparing the Vita directly with Wii U but the article compares the feature Cross-Controller with Wii U. Personally I love the feature but our article explains why it will hardly get used.

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chadboban4135d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

Saw this today. Made me think of you for some reason. Pretty much what happens when you see a Nintendo article.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photo...

HarryMasonHerpderp4134d ago

I imagine it will just be a nice little extra for people that have a PS3 and a Vita.
Where as it's standard for the Wii-U and integral to the system. Same as the PlayStation Move and the Wii console really.

Liquid_Ocelot4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

Exactly, one shouldn't compare them as the Vita has its own games. It's a handheld with a different 'purpose' if you want to call it that, it's separate from the console. While on the Wii U it's just the controller for the console itself, it's not as if you were comparing a DS linked to a Wii U.

Just my thoughts on the subject.
Excuse my English

NukaCola4134d ago

They are comparing a handheld device to a controller. Well let's do this then.

The Wii Tablet is not OLED so you can only push on thing at a time.
The Vita is OLED so you can touch it with many fingers at once.

The Wii U tablet is forced.
The Vita is optional.

The Wii U tablet uses a sensor bar.
The Vita doesn't need one.

The Wii U tablet does gaming on the screen in the room within 30 feet.
The Vita does cross buy and cross play from anywhere in the world.

The Wii U tablet battery life is 3 hours and must be plugged in from a wall outlet.
The Vita can get over 5 hours of straight playing and can be charged by the Wall, PS3, or PC.

Wii U is a controller.
The Vita is a portable device.

The Vita does Cross Play, Cross Saves, Cross Buy.
The 3DS does none of those. (That is the system that should have a Wii/Wii U connection)

At the end of the day, the tablet compared to the Vita is a joke. It's nice that Nintendo is thinking outside of the box, but these articles of Sony Doom and Gloom are getting severely old.

Anon19744134d ago

That was my thought as well. The WiiU pad is meant primarily as a controller. The Vita is meant to be an entire game console in of itself. Cross controller play is nice, but it's just a cool extra. I'm using my Vita to send this right now and I don't say "This isn't as good as my PC keyboard" because that's not the point of the Vita. It's just cool to have it as a feature like Cross controller support.

WiigotU4134d ago

@NukaCola are you serious.

They are comparing a handheld device to a controller. Well let's do this then.

The Wii Tablet is not OLED so you can only push on thing at a time.
The Vita is OLED so you can touch it with many fingers at once.

Why do you need Oled and multi souch when you have a d pad buttons and control sticks.

The Wii U tablet is forced.
The Vita is optional.

The wii u has a standard tablet controller,wii remotes,classic controller, and normal game controller.

The Wii U tablet uses a sensor bar.
The Vita doesn't need one.

The wii u has a sensor bar and gyroscopes and you don't need the sensor bar. It's for wii games.

The Wii U tablet does gaming on the screen in the room within 30 feet.
The Vita does cross buy and cross play from anywhere in the world.

If your going to play a game do you need to sit more than a few feet from your tv.
It's a home console not a handheld. Before you talk about that realize the that we play our home console at home and also if that feature is so brilliant why is it not a selling point for sony.
If you are niontendo why canabalize the 3ds by making the wii u portable?

The Wii U tablet battery life is 3 hours and must be plugged in from a wall outlet.
The Vita can get over 5 hours of straight playing and can be charged by the Wall, PS3, or PC.

The battery life is longer if you dim the screen or duh duh duh plug the cable into the controller then the battery life is however long you need it. I bet every room you inhabit has a power outlet. Oh and the other controller actually kills anything out there battery life is 80 hours.

Wii U is a controller.
The Vita is a portable device.

Then whydid sony even introduce cross play.

The Vita does Cross Play, Cross Saves, Cross Buy.
The 3DS does none of those. (That is the system that should have a Wii/Wii U connection)

If you are on the web as long as you are Nintendo stated that the 3ds could do all of the above. Ummmm you do know monster hunter 3 uses this feature right if not I can send you a link.

At the end of the day, the tablet compared to the Vita is a joke. It's nice that Nintendo is thinking outside of the box, but these articles of Sony Doom and Gloom are getting severely old.

In the end your reasoning is a joke compared to the ps3 and vita the wii u and 3ds does all they can do and 10 x more. Nintendo basically offered players an alternative way to play and developers alternative means to stop doing what everyone else is doing and be creative. I think that its official there are mre nintendo doom and gloom articles than ps3 ones. My recommendation is if you haven't spent time with the system as I know you haven't do so. You still may not like it but don't bash a system that you never owned.

NukaCola4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

@WiigotU

Relax dude. No hate coming from me here.
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"Why do you need Oled and multi souch when you have a d pad buttons and control sticks."

-The Vita has sticks too, but a superior screen as well, so your point is invalid. The Vita screen increases the amount of use for the system.

"The wii u has a standard tablet controller,wii remotes,classic controller, and normal game controller."

-So you prove my point. The tablet is forced but you can spend all this money on optional controllers. If you don't have Wiimotepluses, you are also forced to buy them as you need them for many games to include NintendoLand.

"The wii u has a sensor bar and gyroscopes and you don't need the sensor bar. It's for wii games."
-It's a sensor bar for the Wii U, not an optional device.

"If your going to play a game do you need to sit more than a few feet from your tv.
It's a home console not a handheld. Before you talk about that realize the that we play our home console at home and also if that feature is so brilliant why is it not a selling point for sony.
If you are niontendo why canabalize the 3ds by making the wii u portable?"

-My point exactly. It's honestly stupid for this article to even exist. But for the sake of arguing, I make my points above.

"The battery life is longer if you dim the screen or duh duh duh plug the cable into the controller then the battery life is however long you need it. I bet every room you inhabit has a power outlet. Oh and the other controller actually kills anything out there battery life is 80 hours."

-Your butt hurt is failing you here bud. The Vita last longer with it's light dimmed as well. Also, you can't use the Tablet when it's charging and no, I have both US and Euro outlets where I live so I don't have the convenience of power even if the thing could play while being charged.

"Then why did sony even introduce cross play."

-So the home gamer and the on the go gamer can be apart of a community. It's about making it accessible for anyone at anytime. It's pointless to compare an optional feature against the standard for another.

"If you are on the web as long as you are Nintendo stated that the 3ds could do all of the above. Ummmm you do know monster hunter 3 uses this feature right if not I can send you a link."

-Send me the link. I am glad to see this implemented. This should be something Sony and Nintendo do as much as possible. I loved the Four Swords and Crystal Chronicles back in the day for this.

"In the end your reasoning is a joke compared to the ps3 and vita the wii u and 3ds does all they can do and 10 x more. Nintendo basically offered players an alternative way to play and developers alternative means to stop doing what everyone else is doing and be creative. I think that its official there are mre nintendo doom and gloom articles than ps3 ones. My recommendation is if you haven't spent time with the system as I know you haven't do so. You still may not like it but don't bash a system that you never owned."

-Don't get defensive buddy. Im not bashing Nintendo, just making points for the hell of it. They are relevant. I hope all the best for the Wii U. I have been waiting 6 years for my Ninnty titles in HD. Grew up on Nintendo. Couldn't hate them even if I wanted to.

WiigotU4134d ago

@ NukaCola Be easy sir you just invalidated your points. For example to force something onto to someone is to make something that you never intended aka copy motion controls and touch screen. Wii wii mote wii u tablet sony vita and move. I proved my point now i'll return to my power stance.

Oh yeah at 1:49 Wiiu 3ds cross platform-play

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also

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OccludedGamer4134d ago

I wasn't aware that you have some sort of insight that can work at a pace that modern market research cannot even keep up with. Please get yourself to NASA as they could use your help figuring out what the new type of magnetism will be used for in the future.

Seriously though, you are by far the most boring person on this website, closely followed by Mika. It's hard to even understand how you consider your constant trolling in some way productive for yourself.

vallencer4134d ago

Mika is his girlfriend. I'm surprised she isn't around.

vallencer4134d ago

YAY!!!! You finally have one bubble now for the love of god don't make another account. I wish we could take all your bubbles.

morganfell4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

Hypocrisy much? It's amazing the number of people attacking Hatsune when all he did was treat Nintendo the way Sony has been treated on this site FOR YEARS with doom and gloom articles or technology attacks. The very same people railing against him were busy approving said Sony hit pieces. Laughable to say the least. And it isn't fair to compare them. One of the controllers actually functions as a full blown console when you walk out of the house.

Some of those threatened by Hatsune's statements should realize by reducing people to one bubble you made some fail to care about being reduced. Then again, there are those of us that never hesitated in the first place. In a way, you helped create some of the remarks against which you feel compelled to defend. Then again, certain among us were always going to give you the truth whether it suited you or not.

Mikito114134d ago

You sir, are a fool... Just like hatsune miku..

Nevers0ft4134d ago

Ahhh, that explains it all. I didn't realise that Hatsune was crapping on loads of comment threads out of some altruistic urge to bring balance back to N4G.

Hatsune, you're a true hero and saviour of N4G! Never again will I assume somebodies bubble-count is directly proportional to their IQ.

/s

PopRocks3594134d ago

Miku's comments are generally demeaning and insulting toward those who enjoy anything Nintendo creates.

The rest are often just nonsensical. Not that the previously mentioned insulting ones aren't.

Nevers0ft4133d ago

*mental note to self*

Visitors on N4G seldom understand sarcasm.

PopRocks3594133d ago

@Neversoft

I was addressing the OP, man. Not you. Sorry I didn't put "@morganfell" at the start of my comment.

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YoungPlex4134d ago

You've got to be the most narrow-minded person in the world! It doesn't take a genius to realize the benefit and potential of having two screens (one being a touch screen), at your disposal. Even Sony and Microsoft realize this potential and would kill to have a lag-free device that could do it!

I for one love the Wii U and its design! The fact of the matter is that if your unable to multitask and glance at a Gamepad there are other options of making this work. For one, you can put the Gamepad directly under the TV on the charging cradle, pick up a pro controller, still have an additional screen in plane sight and take advantage of having an entire HUD and/or map at your disposal, without having to look away from your TV. I have done this with AC:III and COD and it works GREAT! I don't have to have a tiny map that only displays a fraction of what your looking at, instead I have an entire map that updates in real time; this is especially awesome during multiplayer when I activate a UAV and am able to see everything!

You obviously have some anger at the fact that Sony doesn't do this better that Nintendo and that's fine! The Wii U was built from the ground up with this in mind, unlike the PS3/Vita combo that was really an afterthought. Every game on Wii U will utilize these functions, whereas maybe 1 or 2 games will utilize any remote play features offered by the PS3 and the Vita! Grow up and stop acting like a Sony FANATIC!

JayBlue4134d ago

Hatsume, if you ever played the cross platform for little big planet, you will realize that you only need to check the screen in certain occasions, when its needed.
The Wii U is the same, and the game itself requests you to use the gamepad screen when its needed.
If its the worst idea, why is Sony trying to replicate it? Not saying its a copy, but this always makes me think...
Aside, the Wii u is made to work that way, he doesn't needs you to buy another console(ps vita) to do so.

Holly crap, really? the wiimote is a step back? tell me, which other console aside of nintendo used a controller based on motion features before? if it was a step back, why did sony made its on version afterwards?(ps move).
Hotkeys aren't a replacement for what the wii u gamepad can do. Stop being such a child.

You do? i doubt so, since you spend your life here, bashing the wii u constantly.

MmaFan-Qc4134d ago

the last paragraph of the article:
"We are not saying that one experience is better than the other....."

weird, thats exactly what this blogger is saying, nice way to contradict yourself.

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kopicha4134d ago

@browngamer41

yea right... cross controller for PS3 + Vita was done before Wii U is even announced.

jmc88884134d ago

Breaks immersion? Not really. Adds to immersion, yes.

Maybe SOME people, initially, have to 'break their immersion', but that's all on YOU. There is no need for it to break you away from the experience. You LEARN to be able to hold your fantasy experience while you look down.

Or are you still not immersed while walking? Or better yet can you breathe and do something else at the same time? Or do you think about every breath you take?

The simple fact is, some people want to pretend like utilizing the gamepad wholly breaks the immersion factor of games, when really it's the own users limitation and lack of experience that is doing it.

Commenting on that it basically becomes someone being annoyed at the prospect of having to try to learn how to game with a tv a handheld screen and keep being 'immersed'.

I don't find it that distracting, and with time, like anything, it becomes 2nd nature. So if you don't want to spend the time to acquire a new skill, fine, but to say it is impossible or always breaks immersion is flat out wrong and small minded.

The simple fact is you want to keep gaming in that certain way and that's fine, but to label it like you do is also flat out wrong. If you don't care to learn how to stay immersed in a game, fine, but because you don't want to try doesn't mean most others will overcome it.

At one time lots of people didn't like analog sticks and wanted to keep with the d-pad. Once they learned how to use them, the d-pad basically became extra option buttons.

The same thing here. Oh and if Wii U is 10 year old tech, it is 30 years newer than the PS4/720 will be. You do realize x86 technology is well over 40 years old....right? Which means the i7 is '40+ years old tech'.

You also realize that the 720 and PS4 both won't be much more powerful that a Wii U and a medium range PC will floor them, right?

Or else you explain how you put $2000 worth of tech that utilizes 700-1500 watts of power, licensed to them from the people that make it to profit themselves first and Sony/MS/Nintendo 2nd, and put that in a small box that will cost under $500 and utilize most likely less than 300 watts.

The simple fact is, the Wii U is the vast majority of what the 720/PS4 will be, the gamepad doesn't break immersion except to neanderthal heads (no...not age wise...head wise), and that if the Wii U runs 10 year old tech, it's still 30 years newer than it's competitors consoles which aren't even out yet. (so tell them not to use 40 year old tech!)

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Knight_Crawler4134d ago

Am I the only one in here that does not put ketchup on my Fries?

Stroke6664133d ago

Actually when utilized properly the gamepad acts as an extension of the game one tv to the screen in ur hands allowing or a feeling of deepr immersion, and yes it is a game changer the type of gameplay that could be developed for the system is crazy. The act of having to take ur eyes off the tv to do something is actually realistic. For instance you run down a basketball court staring at the rim or just ur team mates or the defenders, ur eyes are constantly moved to other points of focus to get to ur main point of focus. This holds true for most everything we do. Adding something like that to videogames is amazing. If developers actually implement this correctly games will never be the same. It doesn't take a fanatic to see that zgolden. Its much moe than a touchscreen, maybe our its my circumstances but I have one tv I share with my fiancee, when I have the gamepad next to me she can basically have free riegn of it with no penalty to me. No nagging of "how long are you gonna play this" and such. It goes furthe than that cause without getting up and going to my computer I cand lay right where I am and start browsing the net or watching my anime that she hates. Just so many many positives its annoying to see someone try to make a sunny day sound bad. No the wii u is not the start all end all to the video game world but it is bloody brilliant. Give respect where respect is due.

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H4all4135d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

it's different...
wii u = dual screen control
ps 3 = has handheld as cross controller..

chadboban4135d ago

I'm not exactly sure what to make of this comment...

chadboban4134d ago (Edited 4134d ago )

Great now he's changed his comment. Makes more sense now I suppose. It was pretty much gibberish before.

kneon4134d ago

It's not really very different. The main difference is the better touch controls of the Vita and the fact that the Vita can run code independently of the console.

Unlike what the writer says this is an advantage as it opens up more possibilities, and it doesn't use up any significant processing on the main console since it's running on the handheld.

Stroke6664133d ago

The problem is people would have to buy an additional console to do this whereas the wii ucomes standard with a gamepad. He is saying he doesn't believe developers will see the need to do so much for the few that own a vita and a ps3. By the way all that indepent processing and stuf is the reason ther would have to be a download for each game to use that functionality which isn't an advantage at all. The games that use cross control wouldn't be on the go game at least not the cross controll portion which is another advantage it does not hold. So basically the vita ps3 thing is aight but needs better implementation. Right now nintendoes what sony don't

kneon4133d ago

The WiiU having the controller as standard issue is a big advantage, in fact it's the only advantage. It's just like the move all over again. Move is a superior motion controller but because it's an add on it won't get the same kind of support.

Technically the Vita offers a superior solution but it will never have the same level of support as the WiiU gamepad.

princeofthabay4134d ago

"We are not saying that one experience is better than the other..."

Name of article:

"PlayStation’s Cross-Controller is good but Wii U does it better"

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asmith23064134d ago

I well would hope the WiiU does this better than the Vita/PS3 as that's what it was built for!

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Tales Of Graces Ƒ Retro Review – Holding Out For a Hero

Gary Green said: Namco Bandai heard the call of many fans asking for the PlayStation release of Tales of Graces which was originally released seemingly exclusively for the Wii back in 2009. If you’re acquainted with the Tales series then Graces f won’t be something entirely new to you, yet if you’re a newcomer then you’ll find a plethora of gameplay mechanics and nuances that distinguish this series from other JRPGs. While the game finds itself following the traditional archetype of JRPGs, such as a somewhat clichéd story, Graces has something to offer to both veterans and newcomers alike.

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GoodGuy0913h ago

Odd this and the xillia games still haven't gotten remasters yet.

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It's A Crime That There's No Sleeping Dogs 2 Yet

Huzaifah from eXputer: "Sleeping Dogs from the early 2010s is one of the best open-world games out there but in dire need of a resurgence."

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 9h ago

I agree, I consider the first one a cult classic already

isarai1d 3h ago

You say "yet" as if it's even possible anymore. United Front Games is gone, along with anyone that made this game what it is

CrimsonWing6913h ago

That’s what happens when games sell poorly. And I’ve seen people wonder why people cry when a game sells badly… this is your answer.

solideagle12h ago

Majority of the time it's true but if a company/publisher is big (in terms of money), they can take a hit or 2. e.g. I am not worried about Rebirth sales as Square will make Remake 3 anyway but if FF 17 doesn't sell then Square might need to look for alternative. <-- my humble opinion

Abnor_Mal12h ago

Doesn’t Microsoft own the IP now since they acquired Activision?

DaReapa10h ago

No. Square Enix owns the IP.

Abnor_Mal8h ago

Oh okay, Activision owned True Crime, but when that didn’t sell as intended it was canceled. Six months later Square Enix bought the rights and changed the title to Sleeping Dogs.*

*As per Wikipedia

boing111h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Sleeping Dogs was a sleeper hit back then. It was fantastic. It actually still is. Would love a sequel to this, or at least a revive of True Crime series.

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8 of the most useless amiibo figures ever released

A new list goes over eight of the the most useless amiibo, ranging from the Shadow Mewtwo card to the Qbby figure.

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