Sony's PS4 Could Lose To The Next Xbox Before It's Even Released

BGR - I love all game consoles equally. My Xbox 360 is used equally as much as my PlayStation 3. The Wii — oh, I’ll just leave it at that. The current generation of consoles is all but over — 10-year life cycle be damned — and new consoles are rumored to be coming next fall. If not next fall, then in 2014.

[-Mezzo-]

It's amazing how everyone consider's 70+ Million Sales a failure.

Anyway, Cannot wait for the PS4, will Pre-Order the day i they start taking it.

[Walker]

PS2 sold over 155+m unit !

[youndamie]

Yea because the PS2 has the best catalog in the history of video games.

[thorstein]

I was hoping Google and this articles author would get together and tell us what stocks to buy over the next year so we will all be billionaires. Since they are such experts on market forces and predicting the inevitable FAILURE of (insert product or company here.)

[3GenGames]

(To PS2 comment) But it also has the most crap of any system, to. Release enough games and you'll get some Gems. The best catalog by ratio of good to crap is N64 (to me.), although some people can't stand any games on the 64, heh.

[darthv72]

could just as easily affect MS's next release as it did Sony. After all...this would be MS's 3rd console.

Nintendo is the only one to brave the 3rd console curse and bounce back with an even stronger 5th. Their 6th is the wii-u so there is still time to see how well it does against its previous systems.

Anyone who doesnt know, the 3rd console curse is an old wives tale about how a companies 3rd system (while superior) does not exceed the popularity of their 2nd. Atari, Sega, nintendo, sony have all felt that. MS is riding high on the popularity of their 2nd system.

It has nothing to do with the technical specs but more about the consumer acceptance and possible desire to switch to something else.

[Dasteru]

153m and that was over 11 years.

March 4th 2000 - March 31 2011.

Edit:

The 360 btw has only sold around 73m so far and everyone considers it a massive success, despite the fact that it took it a full extra year over the PS3 to get that number.

Its typical hypocritical fanboy BS.

- The PS3 launched a full year after the 360 (360 already had nearly 10m sales at the release of the PS3)
- Sold at a price point $200 higher than the 360.
- Supposedly had no games for the first couple years.
- Far lower fail rate, which contributed to a large chunck of extra sales for the 360.

And despite all that is currently only around 3m behind. I hardly consider that a fail.

[MikeMyers]

Quote from article:
"The PS3 screwed up too many times. At this point, the PS4 needs to be perfect out of the door."

The PS3 by all accounts outpaced the Xbox 360 for sales and they did it with a higher price tag for consumers and worse marketing. Yes they started off poorly but turned things around. Ask those who own the system and I'm sure they will tell you they are glad they bought it.

What is it with this mentality of winning and losing anyways? The media is doing a piss-poor job at treating gamers in a mature manner. No wonder we see such immaturity within the forums, it's fed to us daily in flamebait topic headers. This isn't a competition unless you work for these companies.

[Ezz2013]

@dasteru

ps3 is not behind
where did you get your info from ??!! don't tell me vgchartes lol

both are tie in 2nd place now and that's coming from sony and MS
http://www.computerandvideo...

ps3 by now already passed the xbox numbers

[dudeOplenty]

@3GenGames Pretty sure the most crap software goes to the Wii or the DS.

[Hatsune-Miku]

Ps4 hardware power, features, exclusive games and psn will make it the best next gen.

I'll just illustrate one thing which is psn or ps plus. With free psn and then ps plus giving away free games all the time will make it the best. I've accumulated over 30 games for free off of ps plus already and nothing from xbox live other than a helmet for having xbox live. I don't want to lose all my games so ps4 is guaranteed for me first day and a lot of people.

The attitude Sony displays with ps3 having a lot of exclusive games, the console being the most powerful, ps plus and features will make Sony dominate next gen and not wishful thinking that can't be backed up by history or logic. The systems out now is an indicator how the next iteration of them will be and looking at ps vita with its social features along with ps3 is an indicator on how ps4 will be.

Wii had a gimmick and now Wii u has a gimmick. Xbox 360 mainly focus on Kinect so next gen they'll have little exclusive titles but a lot of Kinect games. Ps3 has a lot if exclusive with free online so I expect it to happen on ps4 with a lot of free games on ps plus

[Kevin ButIer]

Good article overall but autor totally missed all the pros that Sony has to be a good contender for the Next Gen... I have strong faith in Gaikai and PSN services overall. Not to mention all the first party developers ready to launch their games into the next PS.

[darthv72]

"The 360 btw has only sold around 73m so far and everyone considers it a massive success, despite the fact that it took it a full extra year over the PS3 to get that number."

While you may think your point is valid, you are only partially right. Expectations of the 360 were nowhere near as high as that of the PS3. Take into consideration when looking at comparatives and put them into the right perspective.

That being said, competition of a console isnt black and white when it comes to one vs another. you also have to look at the popularity of a previous system. case in point. Ps2 outpaced the PS1 by a significant margin. Therefore it is safe to assume that the logic behind the success of the PS3 should be equally successful. unfortunately...that wasnt the case.

PS3 may have sold to great numbers of 70mil but put that up against its siblings that both did triple digits and you will understand why sony themselves feel it is failing when it should be the runaway hit like traditions had shown.

Many reasons why that is. Most would say the obvious is price but they have countered that with a very competitive price point now. another reason is simply...lack of interest in their 3rd system. Surprisingly, there are many who still feel comfortable with the PS2 or had moved onto something else like the Wii because it offered a different style of gameplay. or even the 360 because of the massive marketing that MS put lost of $$$ into.

Whatever the cause, sony knows they will not match the sales of the ps2 let alone the ps1. Unless everything else on the market just stops selling and they are the only choice left.

Now looking at the 360, just compare it to the xbox and see that yeah...it exceeded all sales expectations of the previous system.

@hatsune: "I've accumulated over 30 games for free off of ps plus already and nothing from xbox live other than a helmet for having xbox live."

Really? you never got the free games of undertow, ageis wing, happy wars or even ones like dorito's crash course (an addictive wipeout type of game) or totemball, carcassonne...and a few more?

I wont say PS+ is a bad thing but the games i listed are free and by free that includes even silver members were able to get them and no membership required to play. the free PS+ games require you to be a paid PS+ member to play them otherwise they dont work.

the often confusing comparison between live and + is that live you are paying to play online. Something many arent interested in so therefore they arent live members. with PS+ you are paying for those free games so in essence you are paying to play...period.

To really be a free PSN user would be to actually buy all those "free" games. then you could play them anytime you want with no worry of expired membership and loss of play.

No matter how you try and spin it both services are after the same thing. Paid subscribers that get hooked and cant just easily walk away from what that paid membership offers.

[Rhythmattic]

darth...

Just take PS+ out of the equation and the fact still remains, no matter how you spin it (your words) that on the 360, you have to pay to play inline.

FFS....

[aCasualGamer]

Wow, the Playstation hate usually starts when the console is released, but these articles about PS4 being doomed failure come out a year before the console release. Damn, that's a new record or something.

I know for a fact that a bunch of exclusive titles are in the last steps of production.

How do i know this? By logic of course.

Infamous devs are silent, so are Motorstorm devs, so is the seperate Santa Monica team (only a part of the devteam is working on God of war ascension), so are LittleBigplanet devs (littlebigkarting is basically a Littlebigplanet update), so are Killzone devs, so are Journey devs. I mean i could go on for ever. Uncharted devs already confirmed there are two seperate teams, one working for Last of us and the other on another project. I really doubt FFVersus will be a PS3 title.

So many things point out that Sony will have a great exclusive lineup. And that makes all the difference when choosing a new console. WE know that they won't be too different techwise. Although i'm guessing Microsoft will go the casual route more than Sony, well because of Windows 8 and Kinect. It's no surprise they are going for the casual market, they wanna tap the great market that Apple gave birth to. Sony also wants this, but from what i can tell Microsoft more so.

[andibandit]

Sony is already one foot in the grave. With 7 divisions providing loses and only the gaming division producing a profit the organization as a whole has to cut costs. And they sure as hell cant wait 4 years for the console to produce profit. Fuethermore they seem to have few studios working on next gen titles, and we all know what that means......a repeat of the ps3 launch lineup(insert tumbleweed rolling across the desert)

[LethalToxins]

@darth
"That being said, competition of a console isnt black and white when it comes to one vs another. you also have to look at the popularity of a previous system. case in point. Ps2 outpaced the PS1 by a significant margin. Therefore it is safe to assume that the logic behind the success of the PS3 should be equally successful. unfortunately...that wasnt the case."

Not sure if you meant it this way, but from what you said, the measure of success for a console is its proportional sales compared to its predecessor (Mentioning the 'logic of success' right after the PS2's outpacing of the PS1). So by that logic the PS3 would have had to have sold 225 million consoles to be considered a success... I would speculate it would be impossible given the current economic state and the increased competition from handhelds, smartphones, etc.

Other than that, I'd say MS was the biggest winner this gen (sure I'll get agrees) because whether or not they outsold Sony or Nintendo, the blew away expectations. They're a household name and have made a strong foothold in the market. And they have gained something that maybe worth more than just sales themselves: Respect. They are no longer the joke in the gaming industry. Sony and Nintendo have to respect MS now. Which is good news for all of us because competition benefits the gamer!

Lastly, I can't wait to see what Valve's console is like. <3 can't wait for what the new competition will bring to the table.

[americanGTA]

the ps2 is the 1/3 of the price of a ps3

[nukeitall]

@dasteru:

You can't just look at plain numbers without considering context. Imagine if Windows commanding over 90% market share, suddenly gets less than a third tying with Linux on desktop computers?

MS and Nintendo gained 3-5 the user base, will Sony lost half while dominating which means the Playstation brand weakened while Nintendo and Xbox significantly increased.

The exact reason doesn't matter, because I could have easily said the PS3 offers far more value for a fraction of the real cost of an Xbox 360.

Point being, now there is a third strong competitor and not the laughing stock MS was with the original Xbox.

So yes, PS3 is technically a massive failure for Sony compared to the previous generation.

[hot4play]

I called it yesterday. It wouldnt take long before these kinds of articles to pop up.

Typical MS fanboy desperation.

[Kur0]

over 12 years vs PS3 6 years

[Information Minister]

@ Walker007: What is your point exactly? Are you saying that the PS3's success should be measured by the success of its predecessor, while simultaneously implying that it's acceptable to ignore the PS2's much longer market availability?

And should we expect Spain to win the Euro and World cups in football for the foreseeable future? I mean, considering they are the current champions and all...

I don't care how people spin it, to consider roughly 70 million Xbox 360 units sold in 7 years a massive success, and roughly 70 million PS3 units sold in 6 years a miserable failure is just completely ridiculous.

[knowyourstuff]

LOL the garbage logic used in this article almost made me piss myself.
Besides, the reason this console cycle hasn't resulted in PS2 sales, is because the PS2 fanbase has been divided, with one half buying 360's and the other buying PS3's. In October the 360 just hit 70 million, around the same time the PS3 hit the same mark. Microsoft did an unbelievable job dividing the market and spending billions on marketing and exclusive rights in order to do it.

[AsimLeonheart]

Not every console sells 155+ million and neither every one of them can. By that definition all other consoles released in history are failures. The second thing is that the person on top (Sony) can only come down while the person on the bottom (XBOX) can only go up. That is why the roles reversed this generation. No company can continue to increase sales infinitely. It is impossible and unrealistic to expect such a thing. Finally what the hell is this!? PS4 hasn't even been announced yet and it is already DOOMED based on Google search results for unfinalized names!? This is an absurd and pure flamebait article just to get hits! Vote this site and article down guys!

[Mounce]

Everyone knows why PS2 was so successful, it's not rocket science.

PS2 was the leading-end console. It was like the Wii in sales-success, yet PS2 'HAD' the god damn games, it HAD the library, it had the exclusives, it had the third-party support that weren't going to other consoles unlike this gen.

PS2 was the North American version of what is now the 360(NA simply speaking) Since everyone is like YO LET PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS . . . .They likely have a 360 over PS3... While last gen it was like, everyone knew that 'Everyone'(so to speak) had a PS2 in their home. It was the default console....

This gen? It's sorta, Scattered.... Everyone has 1 of them, 2 of them, or 3 of them, each of them have their Pros and cons and that's not including hardware differences but simply game-differences.

70+ Million is Good.

PSP's worldwide sales are Good.

Vita and PS4 just need to do similar, if it keeps getting lesser and lesser with each Gen, then a problem may be noticed. There is no clear indication at the time that anything BAD as a trend is happening with Sony, not enough information.(And no, Vitas' current sales are still not enough information since it's too early to judge it)

[blackbeld]

"Sony's PS4 Could Lose To The Next Xbox Before It's Even Released"

Could this and that..... One thing is sure. Once you own a PS3 there is no need for a xbox.

But if you own a 360 then you are so jealous at ps3.

I will not buy another xbox cause I can not play online for free!

[Blackdeath_663]

ps2 is the best console ever made, on a completely different league to ps3 and xbox

[kopicha]

It is funny that until today. Fanboy still deny that 360 is actually only popular in US. With that in mind, it comes back to the usual thing. Americans again always assume the whole world evolves around them. Majority of the 70mil units of 360s are sold in US than any other part of the world. I am not going say who is the winner. Only fanboy will do such a dumb and childish thing. We gamers just play the games on where we like as long as the actual game appeal us and end of story. But still I need to point out one thing. Not sure where most people or even certain articles attempt to pull those numbers. Ever since Sept 2012, the worldwide figure of both 360 and PS3 are already at 70mil sales. Let alone it is Dec now closing into 2013. And people still think that PS3 numbers are behind 360? Maybe just for US case yes. But as said US is not only the country that matters. Every part of the world is what that matters as a whole. Also seriously I feel that although this does not apply to everyone. But some people in the US actually aint very appreciative. It is obvious Sony have done a lot for them in terms of deliveries and services. But yet they bash it like a pile of dog poo. Imagine some other part of the world that actually gotten less privilege. And we complain less than the Americans. Sigh....

[DiGiTaL]

Don't remember PS2 costing 599 US DOLLARS either ...

[Anarki]

This has all been said before about the PS3. It's always doom and gloom when it comes to anything Sony related these days...

[ChronoJoe]

Bearing in mind that the PS2 only sold around 100m units at the start of the next generation, though.

The latter 55m or so were sold after the 360 / PS3 released. What I'm saying is the PS3 will probably finish on over 100m units sold also. The PS3 will continue to sell well into next gen.

[nintendoland]

ds sold more ;)

[insomnium2]

@chronojoe

Common sense doesn't work here. Just play along. PS3 and Vita and PS4 are all DOOOMEDZZ!!!

[Stevo91]

I will be buying both like I did this gen and the last gen. They both have there own pro's this war between them both is getting old and boring now.

[JustV]

@darthv72: "I wont say PS+ is a bad thing but the games i listed are free and by free that includes even silver members were able to get them and no membership required to play. the free PS+ games require you to be a paid PS+ member to play them otherwise they dont work. "

When you go to the store and buy something and get something else for free. (buy 1 get one free) Would you consider that as free?
If you pay 49.99 and it last for a full year. And you get games that are worth over 100 dollars...Would you consider that as free?

For me...that's pretty much like free...Because the reality is that you will buy games one day. And the fact that you will get full games like Street Figher IV etc , wouldn't that balance out your 49.99?

[hakis86]

Well, I would love to see the PS4 "perfect" and most powerful so I can stop reading stupid articles like this (claimind the PS3 has only 256MB RAM availible... lol! Everyone that checks wiki knows it 2x256MB).

[thorstein]

Indeed. And I won't get a 720 because I will get the Steambox instead, which will play many games (even Scribblenauts Unlimited!!!)

[NeverEnding1989]

I'll be getting both:D

But seriously, this generation has been a HUGE success for M$ and a hard pill to swallow for SONY. Yes, even tho they are tied. If PS3 beats 360 by 10 million this gen it's still a huge success for Microsoft.

Playstation has been the king of the last two generations, while Microsoft was a nobody in the console wars until a few years ago.

You can bet Sony will be looking to forget about the PS3 as quickly as possible and put all their attention to the PS4.

[Kevin ButIer]

OMG... a new breed of fanbois... Steamboxers

[kikizoo]

lol, exactly.

like the author (comic fanboy) : " I love all game consoles equally"

enough said.

[Enemy]

Statistically based on the games we've gotten this generation, it's hard to be more excited for an Xbox over a PlayStation again. The comparison is borderline comical if we're strictly speaking games.

The "before it's even released" bit goes to show how serious they want to be taken.

[showtimefolks]

Kotaku lol

Sure a system with excellent exclusives will fail over a system that has depended on same 2-3 exclusives also if a full year ahead start couldn't keep ps3 down why would ps4 launching at the same time as next Xbox or even before means ps4 will fail?

Look at vita and you can tell Sony understands it takes a good price point so don't expect anything over $400. Maybe as low as $349 at launch with uncharted 4,GT6, ans killzone 4

Gears of war IP belongs to epic so they can at any time start making gears games for other systems, fable is done

Halo is a excellent franchise
So is forza

Crackdown has potential but MS will never use it right same goes for Alan wake

Also Alan wake IP isn't owned by MS either

COD brand is slowing down so that's MS biggest card. I believe MS will have huge issues this gen because they seem to forgotten about the fact they are making a gaming system before any other home entertainment stuff or smart glass

[Ritsujun]

Halo and Forza were horrible

[showtimefolks]

Ritsujun

no dude halo 4 is a excellent game and so is forza series, i am a GT fanboy but even i will admit it that Forza has done a lot right so hopefully Gt6 will look into doing that.

i want some great community features for GT6, also we don't need 600 generic cars, give us 300-400 excellent cars than 1000

[Thatguy-310]

Exactly!! The 360 isn't so far off to consider the PS3 a failure. If it were ahead like the ps2 was with the others then yea I would understand but that isn't the case. Doubt the next xbox will crush the next ps system.

[Yomiro]

ps4 is not out yet and is already doom.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

"It's amazing how everyone consider's 70+ Million Sales a failure."

yup..

Ms did the same number. BUT..

xbox 360 - released nov 2005 (the hair)
ps3 - released nov 2006.. (the tortoise)

lol

All sony needs is a good launch.

I just want ps4 cuz I need a reliable and long supported games machine. simple.

I refuse to buy a $400+ console then pay and extra $60 for multi-player.

ps4 = $400 + $60 gets me a game + multiplayer. Win!!

This needs to be said again.
xbox has 3 AAA exclusives and 61 kinect exclusives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

720? ha!
"Halo 5 Being Prototyped For Xbox 720"
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

"Don stated that it was Rare's versatility covering kids and adult games throughout the N64 and GameCube era that helped them stay relevant, but having a lot of their mature themed games shotdown created a negative atmosphere within the studio, causing a lot of key talent to part ways with the company."- ex Rare dev
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Microsoft said "meh needs more kinect"

Rare hiring new developers for Kinect 2 and Xbox 720 games
http://www.digitaltrends.co...

I shall laugheth ones ass off.
ps4 day 1 sorry.

[ConstipatedGorilla]

You need to calm down.

[kingmushroom]

and You need banana chocoLax , and I need a PS4, who else needs something ?

[UnholyLight]

HOW ABOUT EVERYONE STFU AND ENJOY THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE AND THE NEXT SYSTEM YOU WILL BUY FFS. IM SO #^$%ING SICK OF READING ALL THESE STUPID BIASED COMMENTS. SONY FANS WONT UPVOTE REASONABLE STATEMENTS AND XBOX FANS TWIST THE TRUTH (MUCH LESS THAN THE SONY PEOPLE I MAY SAY). WHY CANT WE ALL JUST ENJOY OUR SHARED LOVE FOR GAMES?

[Reverent]

I totally agree with you man, but you really gotta get your caps lock key fixed.

[UnholyLight]

Haha Reverent you gave me a laugh. I was just getting really mad at the stupid comments on N4G and I guess I kinda pointed the finger a bit in it myself..

[Reverent]

Well, it's no problem at all. What you said was spot on, so as long as the contents of your comment was well said, then it really doesn't matter that it appeared that you were shouting, lol.

[Maddens Raiders]

Same bullshit articles, different decade.

[MADGameR]

Same here, why all the negativity already against the PS4? Geez everyone's becoming colder each year. I wouldn't be surprised to see people with robot-like personalitise...as a matter of fact, we're almost there! I have a 360 and a PS3 and like both equally.

[Zhipp]

I thought everyone considers the PS3 a failure because it'll most likely never make back all of the money that Sony dumped into the cell+selling at a loss for all those years. Numbers wise it's definitely not a flop.

[extermin8or]

It's already made it back through the selling of software.... they sold at a loss and sell software at a gain, every game sold they get a small cut from eventually that adds up, I suspect they are at least breaking even on the current price if not making a profit based on it's current pricing anyway...

[Zhipp]

@extermin8or
I know the PS3 is selling for a profit now, and they do make money from games as well, but, from what I've heard, they haven't made enough money in the past 3 years to make up for their $4billion+ losses between 2006-2009.

It's kinda like how the Xbox 360 is believed to be in the green, but the XBOX brand as a whole is still in the red because of the colossal failure that was the original Xbox. Their recent profits are unable to offset the losses they took in the past.

[NeloAnjelo]

It's incredible how people can still give examples of better performing games and list COD and Skyrim as examples... This is the capaility of the developers and not the console itself. Its a known and accepted fact that Games look better on PS3.

But let's Ignore power... How about the games themselves? The first party content is so original and varied it outpaces every other console. There is already two new IPs coming in 2013.

Value for money... Free online, blu-ray built in Wi-fi, HDMI... the 360 had to wait on its third iteration to match this.PS Plus gives you 2 games a month. Meaning you're paying less than $2. a game!

Yes the 360 has a better online, but you pay for it, yet you get ads. And lets not start about the lack of original 360 content.

The only good thing about it is that its cheaper in the store, and that it came a year earlier. And before people jump up and shout fan boy... I own all three consoles. I just prefer the PS3.

[DiRtY]

Well the PS3 is the worst selling Sony console ever. Sony made it to 50% of the PS2 sales by losing about 6 billion USD for it. They really had to push this in the market.

Now Sony is in trouble, so they can't afford to do this one more time.

MS is as healthy as ever and the Xbox 360 is making lots of money. The brand just grew massively over the past 6 years.

And MS has the most 1st party studios with Twisted Pixel, BlackTusk, 343i, MS Victoria, MS Soho, Press Play, etc. all bought or built in 2012.

If they manage to get the best 3rd party support again and offer the best online experience again, the Xbox 3 will be a much bigger threat to the PS4 than the Xbox 360 was for the PS3.

[-Superman-]

PS1 won
PS2 won
Wii Won

Microsoft lost all wars, yet he says Sony loses next war against microsoft? When we look at price PS3 and Xbox 360 when both were released, and Xbox 360 before, and right now Sony sold as many consoles Xbox 360, this means Microsoft lost all wars. So. PS4 will be my pick

[DeadlyFire]

This article is BS.

Fact 1.

PS3 has 512 MB of RAM. Same amount as Xbox 360. Its split into two pools instead of one general purpose pool of RAM.

Fact 2 bad ports from X360 are developers fault. Not Sony's. Its pretty clear that when there is an effort the ports to the system work out pretty well.

It doesn't matter when the console launches if day 1 side by side with Microsoft or a year later. It will still impress and be less likely to give us the red ring.

Sony knows the faults of the PS3. PS4 will make up for them and surpass them in every way possible.

[princejb134]

i think google knows something we don't
im a sony kind of guy
for me to switch over MS must have something that appeals to me, something like free xbox live

[MadMen]

Compared to the PS2 is is a failure, in terms of general sales its not.

Xbox was compared to last gen, which means it was a success, the next system will be compared to Xbox 360 sales if it doesn't surpass it will also be a failure.

Its like a Parent to a Child, you always want your children to do better than you did...not be on par or perform less.

[avengers1978]

There is no way Sony is releasing a console that isn't powerful, and offers more features than the PS3... not saying Xbox Wont be powerful, but for people to think either company is releasing a step up machine is ridiculous. Plus we haven't no real info on the 2 new consoles so the can stop with these articles. I for one just hope that my psn account transfers to the next Gen ps4, and that they keep plus.

[Clarence]

70m PS3 in 6yrs 70m 360 in 7yrs. I guess the 360 us a huge disappointment.
In 7yrs the PS3 will most likely be at 85m. Sony said they want a 100m PS3s sold. Name any other console that has accomplished this on their 3rd console out.

Bull$hit article. It's not Sony's fault that developers don't use the full power of the PS3.

[Consoldtobots]

I think alot of people are gonna be in for a rude awakening at how quickly MS will exit the console business. My God even Vanity Fair had a 5 page article on all that is wrong with MS. "How MS lost it's mojo", look it up, Im sure you can find it. To sum up 5 pages into one sentence I'll just say that MS has become the PERSONIFICATION of corporate america. SLOW, FILLED WITH PETTY POLITICS AND NOT A FUN PLACE TO WORK. This is coming from their own former and current executives and managers.

I bet no one here has any idea that MS actually worked on the E-book reader concept back in the late 90's only to have management shoot it down because it "didn't look like windows". If Gates had one ounce of ability to think outside the box he would have jumped all over but instead folded the RD group into another part of the company where they had to show immediate profit. LOL

This kind of myopic arrogant thinking is what has kept them WAY BEHIND the competition when it comes to innovation. They used to be able to outmuscle you moneywise but that isn't even true anymore as now APPLE dwarfs MS in size. My oh my how times have changed.

[imdaboss1]

isnt the ps3 even out for the 360 in numbers of sale right now? Last time Sony was behind by 2 million units..i dont know how they goin to say ps4 will be doom lol crazy 360 fanboys

[wastedcells]

This E3 should be the best ever. PS4, Next Box, ouya, steam box and hoping some Wii U games. Personally I am very excited for PS4 because of the GAMES.. That's why we buy consoles. I'm hoping everyone pulls out their best games in development this E3 and the result is amazing. Can't wait to see what every console maker has coming for their new systems... Especially Sony. Would also like to see an epic HD Zelda and Mario from Nintendo. Only then once we know wtf is going on can we make guesses at who will be on top but even then it's only a guess.

[majiebeast]

"well-informed Stephen Totilo, Editor-in-Chief of Kotaku"

Stopped reading there when has Kotaku ever been well informed?

What a craptastic article with bad info to boot ps3 and 360 both have 512 mb ram. Using multiplatform games to determine the power of the machine when God of war 3,Uncharted 1,2,3 blow everything on 360 away.

Raymond Wong i wouldnt quit my day job at Taco Bell.

[Nitrowolf2]

wtf is up with today. There has been a lot of Kotkau

[Relientk77]

Well-informed and Kotaku are two things that don't go hand in hand lol

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

Sony only has 256 mb of ram....that sony dude has kiri said that was the reason there cant be cross game chat. 360 got more ram because epic told someone at msoft (dont remember the name) that they needed more ram for gears of war.

[Ezz2013]

lol this again
ps3 have 256MB of RAM and 256MB of video RAM

512mb of ram total

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

They were right about Final Fantasy Versus XIII being canceled...

/s

[rainslacker]

How this cycles specs would even matter with the next generation's consoles alludes me in every way. They'll probably both have similar specs next generation, with strengths and weaknesses depending on architecture, you know, just like it was this gen.

More memory wasn't something I even bothered to consider, because it's simply a must for next gen. The only thing I really wonder about is if Sony will stick with the cell or go with a more common CPU.

[tordavis]

"God of war 3,Uncharted 1,2,3 blow everything on 360 away. "

^
Your opinion, not fact.

[Revolver_X_]

Not surprised hearing that from you of all ppl. GOW3 not as much. UC 2, 3, and MGS4 are better in every technical way. Even Batman AC is better then most Xbox exclusives. Hideo Kojima said himself MGS GZ wont be as graphical as MGS4. I expect it to be amazing, but thats his words.

[WetN00dle69]

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!
Smokes and Mirrors.

[Norrison]

Xbox 360 can have good looking games that are good, but the PS3 got a lot more of them. 10 to 1 maybe

@WetN00dle69
Games on both platforms use smokes and mirrors.

[violents]

Right that's what I was thinking, these guys at kotaku always have the most outrageous claims to start some flamewars.

He says, "In the months before the PS3′s launch in 2006, Sony said the console would be the most powerful console ever created, and here we are six years later and multi-platform games on the console consistently end up being buggier and uglier than on the Xbox 360 in many cases. Cases in point: Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 and Call of Duty: Black Ops II."

Frankly this is a problem with the developers ablility to optimize for the system, not the systems fault. There have been plenty of devs that said they just couldn't have made thier game on a xbox because of hardware limitations, ps3 is a more powerfull machine, just harder to work with.

But then goes on to say,"It has the chops to build beautiful and powerful hardware that’s a developer’s dream (ex: PS Vita)" But earlier you say the vita is just a big fail by sony. Make up you mind kotaku.

and then all the things he says sony's next gen have to have to succeed are all the things its rumored to have, so wtf.

[mafiahajeri]

ILL eventually get both but the question is which one first? hmmmmm

If the 360 rehash their exclusives with Halo and gears ill go with the ps3.

[kma2k]

same here!

[WetN00dle69]

Okay so Gears and Halo no BUT if Sony rehashes Uncharted and F@G of War it will be okay?? lol alright goodbye dont let the door hit you on the way out.

[Imalwaysright]

Hmm? I know that Sony will release at the very least 2 new IPs next year! TLoU and Beyond. The only exclusive we know for sure that is coming for the 360 next year is yet ANOTHER GeOW.

O.T. Sony uses games to increase their fanbase while MS uses agressive advertisement campaigns and DLC packs. As a gamer that buys consoles to play games Sony's strategy is the most appealing to me so the PS4 is a no brainer.

[Godmars290]

The majority of games have been creatively bankrupt, devs have repeatedly complained and praised the hardware and no one knows if the industry will or is crashing.

Nevermind that we've already gone through all this crap before. Kept calling the PS3 dead, the 360 the new king, and its only lead to arguments.

[Relientk77]

Can't wait for E3 gonna be really interesting to see the reveal of these 2 next gen consoles.

[OmniSlashPT]

Well this is new, the PS4 has doom articles even before it is announced!

[Imalwaysright]

So did the Wii U. Surprisingly i haven't seen a nextbox doom article but i guess that is expected from the american media.

[MattyG]

OH MY GOD, JUST SHUT UP. "This already released console will fail." "This console we know nothing about will fail." I'm waiting for articles saying "PS5 will fail". It's just getting ridiculous and I think N4G should make new rules against these doom articles (although I know it won't happen because it creates controversy and boosts traffic). Seriously, its just getting really old and starting to look incredibly desperate.

[bloodybutcher]

i guess we still need articles saying "this console from last gen would fail, if...":D

[Bobertt]

I haven't seen any games that look worse on ps3 than xbox. Some games are buggier but that is the developer's fault. It is more difficult to program for the ps3 than 360 but the games could be the same quality if the developers weren't lazy and only developed on the easier console. Look at the ps3 exclusives killzone and God of war they work great and i think they are the best looking games on consoles. Not counting PC. While i could see some smaller companies having a problem to develop two consoles at the same time they have a choice on how to do it, cut corners or do it properly. But bigger game companies like treyarch have no excuse they have more than enough money and people to develop both versions at the same time.

[Knushwood Butt]

Isn't this a bit early to be predicting doom for the PS4?

Is everyone bored of Vita doom articles or something?

[ajax17]

What a retard. "Six years is unusually long for a console to still be kicking around." No, ten years is unusual. I still see a lot of PS2 games being sold at wal-mart which is crazy.

[Ares90]

wow, not even released and the sony doom articles for the next gen already started.

[rainslacker]

Hell...not even announced...not even any solid rumors. Barely any unsubstantiated speculation even. Guess they gotta get hits in somehow.

[jay2]

Lol. Just lets see what's what before we see this. Re the problems with MP games, aren't they ported? I think you'll find the ARE.

[breakpad]

if Sony listen my advice will succeed before it s even released ......GET AAA EXCLUSIVEs JAPANESE MADE TITLES......end

[Yangus]

One problem.

Sony not focusing"JAPANESE MADE TITLES" this gen.
Ps4:
Next Uncharted,next Killzone,next God of War etc.

Final Fantasy,MGS,multi.Dragon Quest,Monster Hunter Nintendo.

Japanese made titles console:Nintendo 3DS/WiiU.
I buy Ps4=perfect Gran Turismo 6,and perfect exklusive!Final Fantasy/MGS.

Uncharted,Killzone not interesting.

[Bolts]

Japanese made titles is why Sont failed.

[Bathyj]

I dont know why youse are so surprised by an article like this.
PS3 had exactly the same thing.

6 months before the PS3 was even released doom and gloom was very prevalent. I think thats when the phrase FUD was coined and I know it was when all this fanboy, console war crap really kicked off to ridiculous levels.

The xbox fanboys and the american games media in particular didnt want good healthy competition. They wanted PS3 to be stillborn, and its never really stopped, despite Playstation easily being the best console catered towards gamers for the 3rd generation in a row.

It is pretty sad though that its still a full years at least away from launching and isnt officially announced yet, which means it doesnt even officially exist at all. How can people hate something that doesnt exist?

[Ezz2013]

the gaming media :

ps3 will fail
psv will fail
ps4 will fail
ps5 will fail
ps6 will fail
ps7 will fail
....................

xbox360 is the best
xbox460 is the best
xbox560 is the best
xbox660 is the best
xbox760 is the best
xbox860 is the best

[Monkeycan8]

I can just see PS7 news on N4G. Headline "Does the PS7 spell doom for sony" and some of the comments "Yea its been out for 2 weeks and only sold 5 million systems"

atleast we have thinks to look forward to.

[Gimmemorebubblez]

@up2013
American Gaming Media.

[saimcheeda]

Has the ps3 failed?
Has the psv failed?
Has the ps4 failed?
Has the ps5 failed?
Has the ps6 failed?
Has the ps7 failed?

[theWB27]

Please..as a gamer I hope all systems thrive next gen cause I like my hobby alot and I also like options. I like the fact you get distinctly different gaming experiences across all the different platforms. So please don't go anywhere Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo and PC.

Signed:
A Real Gamer

[MrDead]

Why do the posters and approvers hold this site in such low regard that they allow this sort of story to constantly make it on to N4G?

[sarshelyam]

Considering the PS3 has now sold more hardware worldwide, than the 360, even with its year delayed launch to market I fail to see how this article has any credibility. Slow burn? Perhaps...but the PS3 is a successful piece of hardware regardless.

Nor can the landscape so clearly be mapped to predict that two pieces of hardware we know nothing more of than the rumors and "leaks" on the internet, will be successes or failures.

[Bigkurz85]

And if you would have polled EVERYONE prior to the 360/PS3 releases, they would have said "How could Sony NOT capitalize on the success of the PS2 and dominate?"

These posts are silly.

[jukins]

honestly its all up to sony how this next gen goes. They have the content and capability to deliver total entertainment to multiple devices. Even though I will surely get a ps4 at launch and xbox later, I still have doubts as to whether sony can pull it all together to make it a success.

[Fullmetalevolust]

The PS3 wasn't crushed this generation and the PS4 (orbis) will carry on with the same legacy, Xbox and microsoft can have all the head start they need and favorable numbers and it wouldn't bother me because Sony would be along side giving them competition.
Million upon million of gamers agree that Sony as a brand has unique titles to offer and provide the best store experience at the moment by providing plus on now two platforms.
People aren't buying into a console, they are buying into a game catalog that is guaranteed with top tier developers and studios. So yes, perhaps consumers will rush to buy the next box once it hits shelves, more so than the ps4, but at the end of the day we know what company will stand to offer unique gameplay experiences and continue to provide solid consumer service.

[Amsterdamsters]

"Sony’s in a rut right now. It has the chops to build beautiful and powerful hardware that’s a developer’s dream".... and the others don't have the chops??? Until the PS3, Sony's systems were the weaker systems and the best sellers for the two generations. The current generation was dominated by the weaker system. They all "have the chops" to create a developers dream machine, but it doesn't do anyone any good if no one buys them. As for the supposed specs of the PS4...if they are true, it puts that system at less than half as powerful as my 1 year old i7...Developers want a dream machine, they program for the PC.... Besides, why are so many people hell bent on specs nowadays. Game play has always and will always be the most important feature in a game.

[TheKayle]

fanboys r boring

[tachy0n]

I find them hilarious xD

[Imalwaysright]

They are not funny anymore. TheMart, Nasim, Power of green, Bill Gates Zhuk, Dark Sniper, Bubbles... those guys were the golden age of fanboys here on N4g. The new fanboys are boring.

[caffman]

I remember having some good laughs at Nasim and the way that everytime he lost his bubbles, he would create another account and type the same way.

[Max-Zorin]

To the people that keep approving these flame bait articles..... http://www.themiddlefinger....

[Lvl_up_gamer]

The 720 will release first and that is what I am getting for sure, day 1.

Depending on what the confirmed specs are for the PS4 will determine if I will purchase one. As of right now, I am passing on it. Had it not been for the blu-ray on my PS3, I would have sold it a long time ago.

[whoyouwit04]

look I am going to say this, People really need to know what MS plan were from the get go before they holier well they had a year head start and ps3 was 600$ bla bla etc etc. Microsoft plan from the off as always been a 3 console cycle before domination. the cycle goes like this cycle 1 introduce the X Box and make the name known. Cycle 2, gain ground and steal supporters away from the competition, and cycle 3 complete domination of the market. No one can denie that things aren't going to there plan Microsoft made there presence known to the gaming world with the X box (Introduce yourself). They are killing the PS3 in the US and is neck and neck with them in Europe (gain ground and still fans from Competitors).
they have widen there Studios to over 20 and are working on brand new ips, and I really do Believe that next gen they will be the number one console. but we will just have to wait and see.

[Raoh]

If you leave it up to sh!tty sites like this then yeah, dead.

[Holeran]

It amazes me that people put crap like the PS3 has less available ram than the 360 256mb vs 512mb. Do some research before you try and write a doom article.

[StraightedgeSES]

Sony should try and get AAA exclusives next gen.

[TheBatman_Fanatic]

They HAVE game studios under their belt and have made plenty of AAA games this gen., there is no get. You should be saying that about Microsoft.

[StraightedgeSES]

My mistake I meant third party exclusives so they don't have to worry about bad porting next gen.

[nerdkiller]

the more you guys keep feeding into this articles, the more there going too pump them out

[AlucardFury]

As an Xbox owner, this is dumb. I'll enjoy my Xbox 720 or whatever its called and hopefully those who prefer Sony can do the same with the PS4. I don't want Sony to fail because then Microsoft won't have competition and get lazy.

[GraveLord]

Last we heard both Xbox 360 and PS3 are at 70million. PS3 came out 1 year late at a MUCH higher price. That won't happen next gen. PS4 will win. Easily.

[Belking]

You heard wrong. What you heard was PS3 at 70 million and you didn't hear anything about xbox. Xbox360 is approaching 73 million, and it looks like the holiday season here in the U.S. may just put them a little over that or maybe even more. Why do you fanboys get so upset about a article? It really shouldn't bother people that much. Xbox360 has been leading ps3 this whole gen so whether they pass them or not doesn't even matter anymore. Sony can't get back that market share no matter what.

As for PS4. There is a strong chance that MS will beat them out the gate again. With Sony's financial situation there really isn't much they can do about it. I expected this because MS beat them to launch this gen and I see no reason why they will let sony do a launch with them. Sony has it's work cut out for them next gen. That goes for game consoles and everything else.

[Hicken]

He heard- CORRECTLY, I should add- that the last official LTD totals for both systems put the PS3 ahead by roughly 200,000. Seems like it bothers YOU that the PS3 could have actually caught or surpassed the 360, instead of people angry at the other way around.

The rest of what you say is utter trash, and the same crap you keep saying with no basis rooted in ANYTHING:

Sony's money woes won't likely affect the PS4 much, as it's highly probable that part of their losses now are FROM the PS4's R&D and production.

MS beating Sony to market this gen has NOTHING to do with what happened next gen, just like everything else having to do with each console generation. The ONLY things that carry over from one gen to the next are name recognition and some franchises.

And what do you mean Microsoft won't "let" Sony launch with them? Are they gonna bar the doors and lock Sony in their own buildings? Turn the power off to their production factories? How do they plan to prevent Sony from launching whenever the hell they want?

Geez, all you do is spout a bunch of BS with NO substance.

[BitbyDeath]

@Belking, here's the link for 360 reaching 70 million -

http://au.ign.com/articles/...

[BrianC6234]

I'm so bored of this crap. Stop attacking Sony already. They ended up in third place this generation but still did great. There's room for all three consoles. Everyone writing this rubbish is the real problem.

[Petro]

Sony still ain't in the third place tho, they are second and I'm not trying to pull any "but PlayStation 3 got released year after Xbox 360" card here, now they have genuinely sold more consoles than Microsoft this generation. :)

[Riderz1337]

Oh my god can you people gtfo with all these dumb ass articles. seriously "google says ps4 will lose" "ps4 will lose before it's even out" "I'm a f*cken psychic and I can predict the future"

Seriously can you people at least try to be inventive in the articles you write instead of copy pasting the same bullshit with a different author in the article. Jesus Christ just go away.

[smashcrashbash]

The PS3 screwed up too many times and the PS4 has to be perfect out the door? Excuse me I know people have short memories but the Xbox 360 screwed up big time from the start with RROD being the biggest blunder that only got passed over because people were dumb enough to fall for their con. I don't think anyone is going to accept another console destroying glitch or another lack of features or another gimmick like Kinect with a weak software line up or gimmicky uses or another attempt at exclusive DLC. The 360 better be perfect out the door or they are going to lose to the PS4 or the Wii U. This isn't going to be like before.

And may I also mention that the 360 STILL hasn't won anything. They are STILL in the middle and haven't dominated the gaming world yet. I have stressed that several times and yet people still talk as if the Xbox 360 is sitting on the domination throne while still not out pacing the Wii or competing with the Wii U or outpacing Sony's PS3 by a wide margin. And yet we always see 360 people dancing in the winners circle when they are still running second and not pulling ahead at all.

[McLuvn]

Ps3 hasn't even hit it's stride yet. Sony will continue to produce and sell ps3s: blu-ray long (years) after the 360: DVD is discontinued. But does anyone really give a flying Fu** for crap sake. The sales only matter to the people who own and are employed by sony/ms . Play the games people. Spend your money wisely.

[strigoi814]

lolz even half or 1/3 of 70million is still a good number..and with sony's first party studio i doubt they wont attract gamers..doubt it soooo much

[sdplisken]

My people... Sons and Daughters of Sony. This much I vow: The history of these days will be written in blood. By crushing the armies of Micro$oft, by seizing the exclusives they thought to turn against us, we were fighting for our very existence. But if there are those who would deny us peace; refuse us our rightful place as the No1 console, then we will unleash such terrible vengeance that console generations yet unborn will cry out in anguish![...]The enemy may shatter our bodies, but they cannot break our spirit. Even now they advance on our marketshare, to seize by force what they cannot claim by right. They cannot imagine what awaits them. WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter, never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities... they will know:
.......the No1 console belongs to the playstation."

[AngelicIceDiamond]

O_0 what is this a cult? N4G the Sony cult/army/gathering/group.

I think I need to join another website now.

[TEZ-RaViNlUnAtIk]

Ps4 day 1, microshaft can do one with their focused kinnect crap, pay to play online bull$hit!!!

[Fakdafakinfakerz]

MS employee trying to brainwash gamers again... sad.

[TheSaint]

Shall we wait and see first? Or just continue with blind speculation??

[Belking]

@BitbyDeath
yep that was back in October. They have sold over 2 miilion worldwide since then. They sold over 1.7 million in the U.S. alone so so that puts them even closer to 73 million.
http://bgr.com/2011/12/12/x...

We still haven't counted what they will sell for Dec yet. You guys are in some serious denial. Sony said they have sold 70 million consoles they never said they have pulled in front of MS because they simply haven't.

@Hicken
You can keep denying but its the truth. You are the one spewing BS. There is no report of sony being ahead of MS by 200, 000 consoles. You pulled that out of your *ss. The only one who has been passed is the ps3 by the 3ds in japan. I guess you don't wanna believe that one either right? MS will launch before sony again. You need to wake up from that dream if you think they won't. You guys need to just get over the fact that sony won't launch the PS4 til after the next xbox. They didn't launch first this gen so what makes you so sure they will next gen. And you are silly if you think their money problems won't effect the PS4 launch. Do you think they use monopoly money to do all this with?....lol

[BitbyDeath]

I wasn't arguing that, just showing MS did announce they reached 70 million as your post said they hadn't.

[gamern4g]

I believe that Sony will loose this generations of consoles.

[cliffyboy21]

Ahh yes another anti ps3 hater... when are they going to stop nobody really cares which one is better!as long as their delivering good games and exclusives thats all that matters

[Stevo2k]

If MS can come from nowhere to be a contender. Then just imagine what valve could do........be afraid!.

[ziggurcat]

it's not a day at N4G without half a dozen doom articles.

it's amazing that there are even doom articles about products that aren't even announced yet.

[Gimmemorebubblez]

PS3 expected life time sales after 10 years is 127 million according to analysts. I think thats a bit much maybe 100 million at the most.

[Neko_Mega]

Could this person can tell the future, so whats the winning numbers??

Yeah, this is like saying the Wii U is going to be the best selling next gen system. We don't know until next gen comes out and it will take time to.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

By the looks of PS3's Exclusives... I don't think PS4 will hurt much compared to the Xbox 720 next gen!

[ooquis]

Bla bla bla!!!

[urwifeminder]

Ill stick with mainly pc next gen but i will get the next xbox as well and maybe a wii u when its cheap.

[modesign]

you can smell a troll article just by its name, not to mention the pure ignorance of the author, so much misinformation with this one.

[chuckyj1]

Pretty weak article if you ask me. I'm no Sony boy...But, I'm sure it will sell very well. The Hand Held market was never Sony's strong point. It is even a sinking market for Nintendo, because of all the tablets out there today.

[NBT91]

Lose what?

[Kos-Mos]

Article from Bollocks. Bollocks is a place for video-game bloggers and journalists.

[VTKC]

Ihave both rival consoles. And NO PS3 has not failed. This article is crap

[mechlord]

Flamebait all over....

[Run_bare]

Wow, that title is so illogical. The issue about gaming industry is the lack of experience in gaming journalism.

[RELIGHT]

Stupid article is stupid. Nothing to see here.

[Droid Control]

I think the PS4 will do the best next gen.
The Wii U is current gen and the 720 might continue to screw the hardcore in favour of Kinect 2, lack of multiformats, and Xbox LIVE price hikes.

[chukamachine]

I actually think 720 will do worse then 360.

Wii u will be 40+million sales.

Regardless of sales, I will be getting a PS4.

[Mister_G]

Agreed. Uncharted 4 in Super HD? Yes please!! :)

[gobluesamg]

Article and site voted down!!

[BX81]

I just hope I have more of a reason to turn on my ps4 than I did with my PS3.

[Mister_G]

The F.U.D. has started already? Jeeze! Give Sony a break and give them the benefit of the doubt at least until they've actually announce the next PS and we know the specs.

[OmegaWolf]

I'm starting to resent coming to this site for gaming news. Who the hell allows the people to constantly flood their website with ridiculous flame bait articles? PS4 is already doomed! It hasn't come out yet, but we already know it will! Believe us! Give this site hits! Get your stuff together N4G. Your site is really starting to suck.

[kingmushroom]

Im with you on that one.

[iliimaster]

my buying list goes like this -getting the wii u
(i grew up with zelda and mario) and new xbox for the multiplayer fun n friends, ps4 i can hold off on simply because all their amazing games by then will be 40 or less ive been thru 5 xbox 360's and 3 ps3's and one wii and wait that steam box will take all my 3rd party games aswell i can't wait for that

[iliimaster]

whoever dissagreed show yourself@! lol

[Vickistheman]

The hate has begun for PS4. This reeks fear and desperate propaganda by some xbox fanboy.

If the PS4 launches at $349-$399 around the same time as the xbox 720(within 6 months), with about equal power, free on-line, good luck MS.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

SDF in full defense mode on this one. Funny how there weren't these kinds of articles before this generation started. That's because everyone thought the PS3 was just going to dominate the dojo right out of the gate.

We were told to get second jobs by the big wigs at Sony to afford a game console.

We were told we'd be given 500 bucks, or something to that amount if we could find a PS3 on store shelves during the Christmas season of 06. (look it up young ones.. that is true) And they were everyone to be bought.

Nobody thought the 360 stood a chance. And as this generation ends, boy has MS made a HUGE dent in the game consoles market. North America is dominated by 360 sales now... Year after Year is outsells the competition here. Nobody thought that at the start of this gen. But it has happened. MS made a dent this generation... this is why we are getting these kinds of articles now.

New generation, and new expectations. Welcome to a World where the 360.. with "NO" exclusives, keeps outselling all here in the most important place for game sales.

Edit.. Funny to read people still crying about MS abandoning the hardcore. I forgot, they don't have the best version of COD, the best version of most 3rd party games, and some great exclusives. LOL... the hardcore gamer can't play the superior or hasn't been playing the 95% superior versions of the 3rd party games? I forgot, MS is the ones that get the sloppy seconds of former exclusives years later right? Because the 360 has no games for the hardcore gamer, even though they have more 3rd party games, better 3rd party games, and great exclusives... not to mention some great games only on the xbox arcade.

How's minecraft on the psn coming? Trials? But PSN+ that i pay for to get free games! Wait... PSN is free to play on... and I'm paying for free games. Paying for free games.

Paying money, for "free" games? And boom they're gone when your subscription runs out. Yay!

[JustV]

@miDnIghtEr20C_SfF :
So what you are saying is that you rather spend 59.99 on every games that comes out, and also pay for Xbox Live rather than paying 49.99 (as an option)for a subscription that last you for a whole year so you can download full games every month? Yes they do expire, but I'm sure you cleared the game by then unless you take over a year to clear a game...
Think about it...Lets say there are about 3 games you like: Street Figher IV, Bioshock 2 and Batman.
You as Xbox Owner...you go out and buy those 3 + your lovely Xbox Live subscription. How much did you end up paying?

I paid 49.99 for my PSN Plus...WIN....Guess what ? Who has more money in the pocket? Me...now I can use the rest of the money and maybe book a stripper while I play some of these games:) Bam..

I hope you don't end up in the financial industry or workfield...

[Withdreday]

FYI, Xbox live is 60 bucks a year now, so your point is amplified.

[sdplisken]

@miDnIghtEr20C_SfF
face it bro this is a completely new generation and your crapbox is destined for 3rd place (ps3 has sold more systems than M$ in less time on the market, despite being MORE EXPENSIVE)

the sad thing is that 360 only has halo/gearz/fable/forza and kinect shovelware for a game library ROFL

99% of those 3rd party games you mentioned run just fine on ps3, now how about the dozens or so MULTIPLATS that require DISC SWAPPING on 360?
PS3 gets the game on 1 DISC which makes it the best version hands down by default (just wait for GTAV on 3 or 4 discs lol)

Next gen Sony is gonna crush M$ with 1st party exclusives, competitive pricing, RELIABLE HARDWARE, free online, cloud gaming, and a subscription service that dosnt rip you off

now what does M$ have cooking for next gen?
1.ANOTHER HALO (Bungies multiplat now, so sad they made the xbox brand)
2. Gearz 5? this is a 3rd party game and with games being so expensive now it could go MULTIPLAT at any time
3. Another Forza (gotta have something to try to counter GT in sales (prolly ms best franchise imo)

Anything else? M$ has NO OTHER DEVS lol maybe i should mention the dozens of devs making kinect shovelware?

Hey now you enjoy your Kinectbox 2.0, im sure it will still be hardcore with (halo/gearz/fable/forza spamming, cod mappacks and kinect shovelware

PS4's 1st party exclusive machine alone will crush the next crapbox
happy gaming!

[TBONEJF]

Great another site that i hate the most BGR is over rated. I don't even read or go on their site. how the hell can they say this when no one doesn't know what the hardware looks like or what it can do? This is getting out of hand and stupid

[PCgamer4ever]

Gabe Newell says hi.

[AutoCad]

360 day one for me,im tired of sony forcing game developers like zipper and slant 6 to make a game like call of duty.PS died for me when they fucked over the socom series.

[JustV]

I'm very sick of hearing about this....I own both consoles.. at the end of the day. I choose the Ps3 for a reason.
More bang for the bucks! I'm sorry but there are so many reasons why PS3 is a better value.

For almost the same price I get: A Blu-Ray player, PSN that's free. Not to mention that Xbox charges you to even run Netflix....when you already paid nextflix...Lots of awesome AAA games...Games that need probably 2 DVD's in order to play on Xbox. (LOL) . Who the hell uses Battery on controllers anymore anyway? The list goes on and on....
The facts are there...I'm not going to pay for Xbox Live...Forget it...I rather use that money to pay 49.99 for a PS Plus and get good full games every month...

[Dr_Saucy]

I won't lie. PS3 has been a bit of a let down in this generation. Sure, it's got some fantastic games, would probably say it has a better library than xbox when it comes to exclusives but this generation been all about online and after buying an xbox 360, going back to play my PS3 just doesn't feel the same when it comes to online e.g slower downloads, less content and variety and of course cross-game chat which for me is it's killer feature. That I believe makes all the difference when it comes to gaming and thats what i bought my xbox for.To play games.

[Withdreday]

Anyone else getting sick of the whole "I love all game consoles equally" statement in fanboy bait articles? It's getting rather irritating.

[MeNoRasta]

Next gen im only sticking to one console and that's gonna be the ps4 or the xbox 720 most likely the cheapest out the two.

[5eriously]

Rather the best off the two. My concern is Microsoft does not inspire confidence that they will release many new IP's and as many games as Sony will.

[5eriously]

[" multi-platform games on the console consistently end up being buggier and uglier than on the Xbox 360 in many cases. Cases in point: Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 and Call of Duty: Black Ops II."]

That is a problem that could be laid squarely at the door of the developers. Funny that the Sony AA titles have no huge issues.

I presume all these articles have to come out NOW as soon there will be no more chance to state that the PS3 is behind the Xbox360. I want to make a bet that lifetime sales for the PS3 will still give the Wii totals a go.

Let the PS4 arrive in good time and when Sony as well as the PS4 is ready, we are ready and patience will prevail. The advantage is that the hardware may still be improved if required. The PS3 showed that even with a year lag and higher price they still beat the xbox360 in sales since its release and definitely will also be the winner with lifetime sales. Even a full year head start for the Xbox360 made no difference.

Just some more info!
http://www.computerandvideo...

['the PlayStation corporation also claimed there are now 3,590 games available for PS3"]

["PS3 hits 70m to go neck-and-neck with Xbox 360
Sony announces milestone less than a month after Microsoft"]

[level 360]

Nothing against MS/XBox 360 but do hate it with a vengeance for not having the practicality of swapping to a much larger-spaced hard drive like the Sony PS3.

This is the " big crux " of Microsoft and I'm sure it's going to be the same with the XBox 8/720.

[Ridiick]

OMG, this reflection has been done by an ignorant.

In asian cultures the 4 is bad luck, it would be similar to call the next console PS13, for that reason the rumors told about Orbis and thebes the two codenames used in the news.

It's a pity that some pseudo-journalists prefer follow their personal taste instead inform people with the truth.

[mattgdumb]

U RAACCKK DISCIPRINE!!!

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

its funny how i have not been on this site in months and i come on just to see whats new and these same lame articles are still hot topics lol....nothing changes

[mattgdumb]

ALL I SEE in these comments is playstation fanboys all im gonna say is i have both ps3 and 360 as well as a decent pc gaming rig, all you guys do is bitch and complain about what is better yet if you enjoyed your damn gaystation so much you would be busy playing it, you guys are fags all the 360 gamers are too busy playing awesome games than complaining about there playstations cause they cant play shit on it and there is no gaemez im gonna watch a blu ray now on my dusty ps3 cause thats all its good for