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Why Sony shouldn't release the PS4 in 2013

Rumors are floating around that the next Xbox and PlayStation might release in 2013. Many say Sony needs to release their console along with Microsoft to avoid falling behind. Here's why Sony might be better off pushing their launch into 2014.

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KangarooSam4150d ago

Because they need to focus on bringing up the Vita.

And I also just got my PS3 and would like to see it have some more support, that may be biased, though :P

Ezz20134150d ago

ps3 will get support for a long time after the ps4 don't worry .. this is sony after all

darthv724149d ago (Edited 4149d ago )

if you just got your ps3 then you should look at the big back catalog of titles as a sign of support.

i understand people wanting to look forward but if you just recently got into these systems, go back and get some of the best they have to offer and start there.

you wont be disappointed.

LOGICWINS4150d ago

The PS3 will be supported for AT LEAST another 5 years.

Belking4150d ago

Yep, but it's because they have too. They can't afford not to.

Ezz20134150d ago

@belking
no they don't ...but they will since that what they always do
ps4 will be out and ps3 will still get support for a long time

i wanna ask you
will you be happy if MS dropped xbox360 for the nextxbox ?!

MikeMyers4150d ago

Nobody knows how much support the PS3 will get post PS4. You cannot rely on past practices because we are in different times now. For one thing the PS2 dominated the charts for years and was the highest selling console of all time. This generation we had 3 strong players.

As far as Sony having reasons not to come out with the PS4 next year I can think of a few.

1. Put more focus on Vita
2. Still lots of room for the PS3's price to come down
3. We are still seeing great games on it
4. Sony needs to generate revenue with the existing hardware. New hardware might be sold at a loss once again.

Outside_ofthe_Box4150d ago

***"Yep, but it's because they have too. They can't afford not to."***

I sense a stealth jab here.

What do you mean that "they can't afford not to?" If it's profitable, why would you drop support for it even you could afford to drop it?

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Maddens Raiders4150d ago (Edited 4150d ago )

Simple. Because the PS3 is fantastic atm and has a lot on offer going into the short and midterm.

To the guy below using the logic, that SNE needs to release it [PS4] in concert w/ MS's machine, so they won't be "behind in sales" is like Ferrari saying, "we're going to release a new Italia in 2013 in order to keep pace with Cadillac CTS sales."

This will never happen for many reasons. This is not the mindset of a quality manufacturer who sets out to build the best for their customers to enjoy for many years. You just do it.

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xflo3604150d ago

Truth is theyHAVE to release ps4 in 2013 or they will get left behind again. xbox720 is coming next year so sony have no choice also they cant give nintendo too big a start or nintendo will win before its even started!

UnholyLight4150d ago

So because you only just got a current gen console us guys who've had one for 6 years should wait longer? Ooookay then lol

KangarooSam4150d ago

Jesus Christ! I said "I may be biased" it was a god damn joke.

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jar1554150d ago

I agree fully. The Vita needs to get on track in 2013 or it's going to die off. Sony needs to rally the Vita or else they'll be launching one system as another dies a very early death.

5eriously4150d ago

I cannot fathom the Vita comment at all. I see the Vita as an extension to the PSx and not as an replacement. Sure the Vita is a console on its own but I for one will buy it to extend my PS3 not to replace it. I just hope that Sony lives up to the promise that the portable devices like Vita, Xperia and other devices will still integrate with the fixed consoles when the PS4 and beyond are released.

R6ex4149d ago

Vita is last-gen.

Smartphones are outperforming the Vita.

Sony should learn from Samsung, and release new and more powerful hardware every year. That's why Samsung is beating Apple at its own game.

Riderz13374150d ago

They don't have a choice...They can NOT let Microsoft release the Xbox first again. Look at year on year sales, the PS3 has sold more than Xbox but because Xbox released a year before it's still ahead.

LOGICWINS4150d ago

Who cares if the 360s ahead? As long as Sony sells enough hardware to keep delivering on enjoyable exclusive games, it doesn't make a difference.

Riderz13374150d ago

Shareholders see that Sony is in last place. Doesn't look good.

LOGICWINS4150d ago

Shareholders care about profit. When Sony eventually makes that profit, they will receive shareholder approval. Sony doesn't NEED to "beat" Microsoft, they just need to do well.

Ducky4150d ago (Edited 4150d ago )

Assuming that both MS and Sony are competing for the same market, if one gets an early start then that is significant.

While there are some that can afford and will buy both systems, the reality is that in a lot of cases consumers will pick one. A sale earned by MS is a sale lost by Sony and vice versa.
The platform that releases early often ends up being purchased by those looking for a new system, which means they're less likely to buy the other new system that gets released a year later.

Neither MS and Sony NEED to beat the other in releasing first, but the one that jumps out of the gate first will likely have more initial success... while the other will likely endure half-hearted ports until it picks up speed and builds a comparable playerbase of its own.
So releasing first is something desirable.

xflo3604150d ago

actually it does matter, look at sonys losses for last year!
Its time for sony to wage war!!

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dabri54150d ago

The year start is not the only reason. Yes it helped, but because of hardware shortages, the first year is never a huge boom in sales for any company. Sonys high price gave them even lower sales the first year - two years of the console being out. That combined with the year head start gave MS the huge lead.

Ezz20134150d ago (Edited 4150d ago )

ps3 is not in 3rd place any more
ps3-hits-70m-to-go-neck-and-n eck-with-xbox-360
http://www.computerandvideo...
both are tie in 2nd place

i think ps3 by now already passed the xbox360 numbers

Belking4150d ago

Hate to break it to ya but xbox is almost at 73 million. They just sold over 1 million last month alone.

animegamingnerd4150d ago

i think sony's top priority is to get the vita on track or else it will be a failure they are already losing a lot of money from their other divisions so releasing a PS4 that is a huge leap and cost at least over 500 dollars spells trouble

Pillsbury14150d ago

Sony does not have to, those that will get a ps4 will get one regardless of when 720 is released. I can see that people are impatient to wait for next gen, I too want to see where Sony will take our gaming to the future.

Hicken4150d ago

I don't think they HAVE to, but I don't see any reason why they WOULDN'T. People seem to be under the impression that they can't support their current systems and pour resources into the PS4 at the same time.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere13h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN11h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos8h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo3h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger11h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto13h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos12h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long9h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel12h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator11h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg14h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos14h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola9h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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