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Should Sony Release Less Exclusive Games?

Push Square: "If variety is the spice of life, then the PlayStation 3 is a particularly posh brand of pepper. Arguably more than any other platform holder over the past five years, Sony has provided its system with a stream of high quality content. From big-budget blockbusters like Heavy Rain and Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, to smaller endeavours such as Starhawk and Siren: Blood Curse. But with such a vast roster of releases in its catalogue, is the company spreading itself too thin? Indeed, would the Japanese giant be better off focusing on a few tent-pole titles as opposed to such a broad spectrum of content?"

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Abash4145d ago

No way. The smartest thing that Sony has done this gen is build up an army of successful first party series like Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, inFamous, God of War, Killzone, Sly Cooper, Gran Turismo, etc. that not only is the reason why they were able to make the PS3 successful but also is why people are looking forward to the next PlayStation when this gen every third party developer wants to develop on every platform.

We all know third party exclusives are a thing of the past now, but it's the exclusives that ultimately define which console you want to get. Sony keeping it up next gen with all the exclusives will do great things for them next gen

Kennytaur4145d ago

Screw you for not wanting The Last Guardian! :-P

Ant clinging to a top comment just to be seen without even replying is poor behaviour.

Peppino74145d ago

Stupid question/title if its a serious one.

Grap4145d ago

yah what safe sony @ss this gen is 1st party Exclusive Games.

Campy da Camper4145d ago

Agreed. If I only played an Infamous, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Kill zone, God of War, Ratchet n Clank title with a couple AAA 3rd party's in a year I'd be fine. I've gone frm playing tons of meh games to really getting I to the good ones and playing the hell out of them as a gamer. Quality over quantity.

ABizzel14145d ago

I don't think the amount of games is the problem. Sony needs to make a window for all of their releases throughout the year.

MostJadedGamer4145d ago

"We all know third party exclusives are a thing of the past now"

That is totally and completely false. My most anticipated game next year is a 3rd party PS3 exclusive; Dynasty Warriors 7: Empires.

MostJadedGamer4145d ago

"Screw you for not wanting The Last Guardian! :-P

Ant clinging to a top comment just to be seen without even replying is poor behaviour."

95% of PS3 gamers could care less about The Last Guardian, and that is a fact.

saladthieves4145d ago

What?? I'll take more exclusives over less and few exclusives thank you very much.

MikeMyers4145d ago

We all want as many games to choose from as possible but those resources need to be funded somehow. When you spread yourself thin then certain games will get lost. We all know The Last of Us will get a ton of attention but that's offset by other games that don't get near the amount of attention. People paid good money for games like Twisted Metal but if those games don't get the support the online could be pulled or the support for new DLC or balance issues might not be there. I used Twisted Metal just as an example hypothetically.

I don't want to see companies run like Activision where they put most of their resources into one franchise and bleed it dry. I think Microsoft is doing the same with Halo and Forza. There are signs of Sony doing this as well with games like God of War. It all rests on the shoulders of consumers. If they don't buy unique games like Beyond and just want to keep buying Gran Turismo and God of War instead what do you expect? Sony can only keep taking so many chances before they too just focus on proven franchises. I wouldn't want to see that happen but that's the frailty of this business.

Tapewurm4145d ago

Agree with Abash here ....... answer to the title..... How's about Nooooooooooo. :) 1st party exclusives are what make the PS3 the system to beat.

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BinaryMind4145d ago

Yes, I do not want Sony to keep making more and more games. No one bought a PS3 for anything but the Blu-Ray player, Gran Turismo, and God of War anyway.

Oh wait, that was sarcasm.

d3nworth14145d ago

I agree they should keep bringing they out but at least space out the launch dates. Some of their games will come out within a week of each other and the big name title will take sales from lesser title.

a08andan4145d ago

@Mostjadedgamer:

Pweeeh. That means ps3 gamers really want The Last guardian then.

insomnium24145d ago

The amount of exclusives is what keeps PS3 selling for years to come. 100 million sold in 2015 and 120 million in 2020. If they keep manufacturing them ofc.

MikeMyers4144d ago

The PS2 dominated the market. You cannot take what support that system got after the PS3 came out and apply it to the PS3 once the PS4 comes out.

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Outside_ofthe_Box4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

Funny how before it was "the PS3 has no games, Sony needs to release more exclusives." Now people are starting to question if Sony releases to many, lol.

Sony should keep doing what they are doing. The reason why people keep saying that Sony should release less games is because they assume that every single one of them costs tens of millions dollars to make. If releasing so much games was really hurting their bottom dollar they would have slowed down production/releases long ago.

prototypeknuckles4145d ago

Right I remember those days xbox has halo and gears ps3 has no games, its kind of ironic how the tables have turned.

Ben_Grimm4145d ago

Well they actually did say that releasing so many games stretches their bottom marketing and ad focus.
This could be the reason why so many folks here on N4G keep going to the "Sony doens't market enough" line.

http://www.playstationlifes...

Which I don't think is true since I see a lot of ads for Sony not to mention their Kevin campaign not too long ago. But it has been quoted.

And the reason "people" (people meaning N4G) are saying this is because a lot of their games are not appealing to the mass audience. Some of the titles may not cost tens of millions, but I'm sure they are in the million range and a million loss is still a million loss.

Outside_ofthe_Box4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

I wasn't talking about marketing. I was talking about people saying Sony can't afford to release too many games.

With that said, I don't recall seeing a Twisted Metal ad, nor a Starhawk ad, nor a Sorcery ad. I have seen ads for recent titles such as Battle Royale, LPK, and WonderBook however and not mention 3rd party games such as Need For Speed and Assassin's Creed III. I personally think that when Sony does actually advertize they should show actual gameplay. The Battle Royale ads I've seen have no gameplay in it whatsoever leaving the clueless wondering what the game is about.

***"And the reason "people" (people meaning N4G) are saying this is because a lot of their games are not appealing to the mass audience. Some of the titles may not cost tens of millions, but I'm sure they are in the million range and a million loss is still a million loss."***

If they aren't appealing to the masses then why should one expect the game to sell high amounts anyway? I don't think any game released this year for Sony was of high budget.

smashcrashbash4145d ago

That is the way the modern gamer community is. They are confused. They complained about how few games PS3 had and harped on about how the 'PS3 haz no games'. Now that they went all out to prove that they can make a huge enough line up it's 'Sony could you make less games?'. Gamers,especially Sony gamers really don't know what they want.They are not happy unless they are complaining about something. They would prefer that Sony make less games to force you into buying those rather then giving you a wide selection.Look how antsy everyone got because most of Sony's best games are coming out next year.

TheLastGuardian4145d ago

"Gamers,especially Sony gamers really don't know what they want.They are not happy unless they are complaining about something. They would prefer that Sony make less games to force you into buying those rather then giving you a wide selection."

What in blue blazes are you talking about? Especially Sony gamers? I don't think so.

Syntax-Error4144d ago (Edited 4144d ago )

Your joke is meaningless considering Gears and Halo both outsell any Sony exclusive by themselves. Your attempt was an EPIC FAIL. Do your research first. It took Halo 4 less than a month to sell 4M. Halo franchise in itself has sold 50M. Please lets not go there. You can put all PS3 exclusives together and they will NEVER reach that number. I love PS3, but now your talking reckless and looking like a clown

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showtimefolks4145d ago

i think sony's world wide studio president even admitted that they released too many exclusives. i don't want them to stop that because that's what makes Playstation so special

i want them to spread them out over time and each game should get at the very least a small advertisement budget.

sly 4
god of war
last of us
beyond 2 souls
along with others and that's just in the 1st half of 2013

IMO sony is the best gaming company that caters towards hardcore gamers

Maddens Raiders4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

no. Sony Exclusives = Sony Exclusivity. The quality; the array of games speak for themselves, which simply make the console a more sought after commodity to those who seek out such attributes.

akaakaaka4145d ago

THE LAST GUARDIAN :'-/

KILLZONE 4 has a lot of option to be a amazing game specially in a new tech the PS4 but I will love to see first two games in a row for GG new IP and then KILLZONE 4 or maybe the new IP first KILLZONE 4 and fallow part two of the new IP maybe 3 games in 5 years will be ideal since it will take time to build and perfect the new engine(since GG now has two teams I will like GG to make a new Socom since they did nam 67' which is similar to Socom)

ND should do the same with TLOU continue the IP on the PS4 and maybe be a old IP remake (a new uncharted, SF, Socom"sony does really need to bring back socom back to glory") they should and also make 3 game sin 5 years.

Siren for the ps4 and let this same studio do a next gen extermination game, i don't understand how nobody or even sony have not thought about this great IP they own, and this japon studio is talented they should be working on this ips, they will sale good enough and maybe also give this studio Demon Souls XD ..

Give insomniac a chance to create a new IP? (or Resistance 4 only if they go to modern times) one every two and a half years and make sure it does not coincide with the same year that KILLZONE comes out.
let them do a R&C but not as many as they did this gen it's annoying to see such a great devs waste time in that IP for kids no offence i know people love it but come on maybe one every 3 years is enough.

MotorStorm should be more real and xtream and less cartoon-ish. a game every two years should be good for racing games.

Santa Monica should keep doing GOW they are the best at that and maybe try a new IP?(they have two teams now!) and keep doing what they did this gen help other devs to make the games. (a game every two years to will be good enough from this team.

David Jeff should keep is mouth shut and create a new IP and be more humble (this guy do need this a lot) and if he fail to impress she should retired or make psn games.

Starhawk devs for me just suck at gameplay controls, their game feel cheap and arcade.I don't understand how some people say they are fun but let's be honest they are bad at it they have no ideas and their game are just fun for the few, some may hate me but its the true. They should be used to helps other devs in their multiplayer codes since that what they are good at.

MM go back to LBP in next gen. and create two new original IPs after that.

GT6 should have all cars premium no excuse on having cheap low res unfinished cars. 3 games prologe, gt6 and gt6 full speed or something like that.

Sucker Punch should create a new IP i will love that, inF was great but it's done, new IP from them is needed super powers open world like infamous but more wild original and exotic.. and create 2 games in 5 years.

mewhy324144d ago

Sony should absolutely make as many exclusive games as possible. If they relied more on 3rd party games they'd be farther behind Xbox than then already are. Third party games most always look, play, and perform better on the Xbox 360. Exclusives, however, help to mask the short coming of the ps3's miniscule ram and paltry rsx chip by being developed with the strenghts of the the ps3 soley in mine and not having to worry about trying to keep up with pc or Xbox 360 levels of fidelity. They'd better keep on making them exclusives for sure. I personally can't wait for the last of us. I'm really excited about that.

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NYC_Gamer4145d ago

Sony needs to space out releases and promote them better

Snookies124145d ago

DEFINITELY needs to promote them better...

Gazondaily4144d ago

I have hardly seen any ads for PlayStation All Stars. Why?! That kind of game is begging for advertising especially prior to Christmas.

The VITA is getting a big marketing push though.

TopDudeMan4145d ago

Yeah, their best games don't really get shoved in your face enough. I mean, they advertised the crap out of uncharted 3, but in the same year, resistance 3 (probably my favourite in the series) got hardly any attention, and as a result, sold poorly.

onandonandon4145d ago

I know their head of marketing must never show up for work!!

Relientk774145d ago

The number of exclusives isn't the problem, it's their advertising. Exclusives are one of their strengths.

get2sammyb4145d ago

But as the article discusses, they only have so much money they can spend on marketing. While the likes of Microsoft can spend ALL of that money on a single game like Halo 4, Sony simply has too many games to promote in the same way.

As such, I believe the sheer number of releases are what hurts the advertising in the long run.

Alos884145d ago

I'd rather have a bunch of 1st party titles than one with amazing advertising; after all, I'm paying for the game, I'm not interested in how many billboards it gets mentioned on.

NintyJazz4145d ago

@ Alos88
you completely missed the point. It's not about how many games they have, it's about how much money sony can spend on advertising. You guys complain about Sony not advertising but even when the games don't sell well you'd rather have Sony keep pumping out exclusives rather than have common business sense.

Alos884145d ago

I don't complain about Sony not advertising, as I've said I don't care about adverising, it looks like you did't get my point either.

admiralvic4145d ago

@ Get2Sammyb

Normally I would agree, but Sony did a FANTASTIC job with the Kevin Butler series. While not every ad was exactly memorable (or even did a great job promoting the game...), they did a spot for virtually every first party game coming out that year. I would say the issue isn't advertising, but getting their message across...

As I mentioned above, the Kevin spots were numerous, but didn't exactly sell the product. I would suspect the average person saw the jokes and missed the point. I believe other games like All-Stars falls in the same category, since the ads are well done, though they don't really get the SALE needed. If Sony could find a middle ground between getting the point across and having fun (since they really do some fun ads), I believe we would see more sales across the board.

bozebo4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

Yeah, they need them to keep profits up.
Sony needed it from first party titles due to less 3rd party sales this gen.

Next gen, it's going to be even harsher (for MS too, but they have people paying for P2P multiplayer...). They will have to keep up the same tactic, which is bringing us brilliant games so that's good. Once they take a look at 3rd party sales on the PS4, they would make less exclusives if that meant more profit (doubtful).
I'm guessing next-gen consoles will be sold at quite a hefty loss to Sony/MS per unit if they want the performance to hold up for years. That means they'll need a certain number of new game sales or other purchases from each console owner to get back into profit territory, without huge 3rd party sales - that has to be done with great 1st party titles (more profit in them overall, vertical expansion in the business etc.)

izumo_lee4145d ago

With their current financial situation advertising games is not on the highest 'to do' list unfortunately. So Sony is hoping that 'word of mouth' from the millions of Playstation fans eleviate much of the burden.

Hopefully as things get better within Sony that they will advertise the way they use to in the past.

Yangus4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

Number one ps exklusive:

Gran Turismo brand.

Not KZ,not Uncharted,not God of War.

Xbox number one system seller=Halo brand.
Ps number one system seller=Gran Turismo brand.

FF and MGS series multi.

bozebo4145d ago (Edited 4145d ago )

(not sure what you're on about but) MGS4 was a decent system seller. GT5 was bought by many but by then, the PS3 had already made significant headway and a lot of first party games were out by then (a spectrum of games, so there's something for everyone).

If you look back at the PS2 and the exclusivity of FF combined with earlier launches of GTA... they were big sellers but the PS2 was popular because of the brand and launch timing.
They _would_ have been massive system sellers this gen if they were Sony exclusive though, but the publishers aimed for multiplat to access the most customers, they don't do Sony's bidding (hence Sony's efforts on first party games in the 2nd half of this gen)

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197213d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91312d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos21d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9521d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia21d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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