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Pachter Talks About Nintendo, Wii U, Gaming, and His Haters

Michael Pachter talks about some of his recent negative Wii U comments, the state of the gaming industry, and about his haters.

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Godchild10204151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

My only problem with Nintendo, is that they push Mario more than any of their other IPs. That is why I moved past the Mario games and love their other IPs more. Zelda, Pokemon, Starfox, among others hold more weight than Mario. IMO. I sure this is different for others and I respect that.

I want new IPs from them and for them to go back to some of their older IPs, that is not Mario. Next year looks real good for Nintendo, the WII U and I can't wait for Pikmin 3.

MariaHelFutura4151d ago

The 3 most known faces world wide are.....

1. Mario
2. Micheal Jackson
3. Micheal Jordan

It`s the nature of the beast.

akaakaaka4151d ago

Maradona
Messi
madona
mona lisa
medusa
maria guadalupe(la virgen)

I don't get your point

PopRocks3594151d ago

Mario's about as well known in media as Mickey Mouse. Why wouldn't they push that IP?

LOL_WUT4151d ago

Because they should push their other IPs too and not just rely only on Mario, for a quick buck. ;)

PopRocks3594151d ago

"Because they should push their other IPs too and not just rely only on Mario, for a quick buck. ;)"

How do you consider the 3D Mario games, the ones that actually do new things with the platforming formula, as strung together for a quick buck?

Plus, you're talking about relying too much on Mario when many publishers rely on the same IPs each year. I don't see you complaining about that, only Nintendo related ones.

Bowzabub4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Donald Duck bends Mickey over.

wampdog294150d ago

@LOL_WUT

Wait, wait, wait. A few years ago people were ragging on Nintendo to make more Mario games, now that they do, they make "too many" and "rely on Mario too much." I don't get it. Complainers gunna complain.

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ronin4life4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

But that is not just nintendo.
Sony uses Uncharted. MS uses halo. And the rumor mill seems to indicate no change in this behaivior.

It is no different and is onesided to think Nintendo is somehow alone or especially guilty of this kind of thing. That is why many don't like to hear that "complaint"; because it is an industry wide stigma ignored unless it is Nintendo.

Godchild10204151d ago

Mario has ran from Generation to Generation, Uncharted has only been on PS3 and Vita. Halo has only been on two systems as well. You could mention God Of War, because that has been on 4 platforms in the span of 12 or so years. Again how old is Mario? We don't even see Sonic as much.

Next Gen, it might be a different story because it's rumored that Uncharted 4 will be on the next PlayStation Console and Halo will be on the Next Xbox console, but until it's confirmed, it is about Nintendo running Mario on every one of their platforms to sell it. They don't have any new Ips to sell their console. Where was Luigi last Gen and why did it take the 3DS to bring him back, for his OWN game?

I'm not hating on Mario, I just wish Nintendo would promote their other IPs. All IPs holders are guilty for doing it and some may say we are just hating because they are making a profit off the name, but in my case it's not. I rather see more of their other IPs, as much as we have seen Mario. Where is the Pokemon spin-off/ cross over, why did it take so long to see Kid Icarus coming back.

We don't see much of Sony because, they have other IPs coming. They are getting bad when it comes to Little Big Planet and Uncharted with all those cross overs.

Microsoft is just as bad, with Gears, Halo, forza and Fable. They are all to blame when it comes to their Ips, but Mario is on the spot light because we all know Nintendo has a lot of multimillion dollar selling IPs to use, but they rather use Mario.

ronin4life4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

That is true, but ps and xbox are younger than Nintendo. Of course Nintendo will push its most legendary franchises, and have had more time to have done so; sony has only just attained itself franchises it can parade in such a fasion(having sold off Crash and Spyro) and Halo is MS flagship... in fact, the rate of releases from uncharted and Halo easily outpaces Mario and Zelda despite their relative youth.

Furthermore, the GC and GBA were devoid of mario and zelda... which recieved complaints of its own(this may be why they have been pushing them so hard ever since) while Metroid took center stage along with new IP like pikmin, Chibi robo and golden sun, with regional debuts of titles like Advance wars, fire emblem and Animal crossing.

So it isn't like they haven't pushed and supported other titles. But the negative reception was there then("no mario? Get this other shit out of my face") and is here now("all Nintendo can do is parade the same antiquated franchises over and over")...

RFornillos44151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

the only reason Uncharted has only been on PS3 is the fact that they hit a goldmine with Uncharted when they released it on PS3. no different from MS with Halo which was came out for originally the XBox, and now we have Halo 4 for Xbox360 (not counting the un-numbered Halos).

if Sega's still into consoles now, you'd probably say the same thing for Sonic. the fact is, the character alone is already an icon and that sells. if Mario games don't sell, do you really think Nintendo will still do Mario games. the fact that it sells, like Halo sells for the Xbox, or Uncharted for the PS3 ensures we'll still have the next iteration of Mario games.

for Sony, being they lost Crash Bandicoot as their console mascot, it's only natural for them to look for their next "Mario" or "Zelda", that's why they come up with new IPs. they're hoping the next IP they come out with will sell like Uncharted. and when it does, expect more iterations from it.

again, no different from Activision's COD, EA's Battlefield, etc. I could go on.

and to agree with ronin, how many Uncharted came out for PS3? how many Halos for Xbox 360? see.

wampdog294150d ago (Edited 4150d ago )

Like I said up above though, everybody was asking for more Mario because they didn't "push" him enough just a few years ago. Now, it's too much...

*shruggs shoulders* /whatever

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wiiulee4151d ago

haters love patcher because he caters to their nonsense...wiiu is a great system with unbelievable uniqueness and miiverse is great...once nintendo advertize everything the right way and get tvii and more games.....it will be a complete success

ronin4life4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

I'll say it as many times as it takes: I dislike the sewage that is his opinion because he is constantly wrong, yet continues down incorrect and illogical paths of reasoning with his predictions.

The main point of contention with this article I have: where are those software numbers pulled from, and what do they actually represent? I am having a hard time believing this, as Nintendo has led Japanese software all year(unless he is talking only USA, Which is understandable)

Are these sales 1st, or 1st and 3rd party inclusive? How do they compare to themselves this year as apposed to last year? That statement is lacking in context, something a person in his position shouldn't be allowing himself to do.

@ozzy
" I fear they'll discontinue the wii u next month due to poor third party support. Food for thought."

Now I know you aren't serious with your recent wiiu comments...^ͺ^
Lol.

klecser4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

His problem is that he doesn't really understand the gamer demographic. He's an economic analyst and economics is a social science for a reason. The entire field is based on the idea of understanding the likes/dislikes and therefore purchasing habits of the target demographic. Gamers are a diverse group and he type-casts them. He thinks he understands our market desires.

Re: the whole "Mario" thing, this is a problem in gaming as a whole. Companies pour all their money into the only things they know will sell. So, as someone who doesn't like first person shooters, the whole market is very barren to me. I've been reading a lot of books and playing a lot of board games for my entertainment. If the high specialization in the market doesn't shift away from first person shooters, I'll be leaving video games eventually. There are a lot of entertainment options out there.

ozzywazzy4151d ago

I fear they'll discontinue the wii u next month due to poor third party support. Food for thought.

For the record I do not own a vita nor am I into handhelds so I'm not exactly concerned with those figures. I own a ps3, 360, and pc and enjoy them for what they bring... So nope, not a fanboy.

klecser4151d ago

Don't ever get into business.

JayBlue4151d ago

"I fear they'll discontinue the wii u next month due to poor third party support. Food for thought."
Seriously? This sounds more like "I'd like that to happen".
Even the PS3 had few 3rd party support in its first month.
The WiiU only have less than a month on the market. This isn't the right time to judge or to speculate about the console's possible success or failure.

"I own a ps3, 360, and pc and enjoy them for what they bring... So nope, not a fanboy. "
And...sorry, but this comment isn't helping you much.

JayBlue4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Sorry double post.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1019d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref8d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde8d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19728d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville8d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21838d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos8d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai9d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref8d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan8d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0077d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19729d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19729d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref8d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde8d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19728d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19728d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier8d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto8d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21838d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto8d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman8d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts8d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts7d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic8d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel15d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8814d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing14d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS14d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder14d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218314d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.