The Last of Us' Launch Date Points to the PlayStation 4's Imminent Arrival

Push Square: "Sony, like most other publishers, is not a massive fan of mid-year releases. The platform holder has had some success launching Sucker Punch’s two supercharged inFamous titles during the sunny window, but it typically reserves its heavy hitters for the start of the year or the festive period. It’s interesting, then, that the company has opted to lavish The Last of Us with a 7th May release date. Could it be an indication that the PlayStation 4’s coming next Christmas?"

[Abash]

I dont know, I mean Beyond: Two Souls will be releasing Late 2013. Sony confirmed the game build is still in the Alpha stage so it'd be unrealistic to expect it to be ready anywhere in the first half of 2013. As well as Puppeteer Im assuming, so they have a holiday line-up for PS3 already in 2013.

While I think The Last of Us *could* be an indication of the next PlayStation arriving next year, it could also be that the game is just ready by then and they dont want it to get drowned in the hype of new consoles that'll be shown at E3. Because face it, this E3 will be all about next gen games whether the consoles are releasing late 2013 or sometime in 2014

[get2sammyb]

Beyond: Two Souls is definitely the anomaly. Clearly they're not going to just abandon the PS3 when the next-gen launches, but I think it's very clear that they're making a big empty space for it in Christmas 2013.

My inkling is that even The Last of Us /was/ set to be finished in May, they'd hold it back until Christmas in any other year. The fact that they have tells me they want all eyes on PS4 after E3.

[Abash]

Like I said it could or could not be a sign, it's best to just wait for E3 and see what happens. If anything the only anomaly is The Last of Us releasing in May because while it seems so many big PS3 games are releasing before E3 2013 we have to remember Sly 4 was delayed to next year and should have released this year, God of War always releases in March, and there are PS3 exclusives like Beyond, Puppeteer and Im betting Until Dawn too planned for the holiday line-up of 2013.

[-Mika-]

@ Abash

Ya but beside Beyond. Those aren't top tier exclusives. I think Sammy is pretty much correct.

[MikeMyers]

Beyond, much like Heavy Rain, is not as mainstream as The Last of Us will be. Naughty Dog is by all accounts Sony's top developer right now. Which makes it even more interesting to have it launch in May and not October/November.

Sony has a history of supporting their older systems past the new one. They won't abandon the platform like Nintendo did with the Wii or how Microsoft did with the Xbox. Nintendo knew the Wii was in a huge decline, both the Xbox 360 and PS3 are still selling fairly well.

[GuyManDude]

All this along with the fact that Guerrilla Games hasn't announced their next game yet. Killzone 3 came out nearly two years ago, and the VGAs would have been a good platform for the reveal of a PS3 game. They have to be working on a PS4 game. There's no other reason that they would keep the project a "secret".

Same goes for Sucker Punch: 18 months since Infamous 2 came out.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the following at Sony's E3:

Next console announced for Fall 2013
Guerrilla Games title announced for launch
Sucker Punch title for launch/launch window
and MAYBE a teaser from Naughty Dog (U3 team)

That leaves Naughty Dog's Uncharted team, Media Molecule, and Evolution Studios for 2014 (outside shot for Polyphony Digital, we know how slow they work).

One thing's for sure: there's going to be a LOT of buzz surrounding E3 this year.

[8bitHero]

@guymandude

actually GG is working on the vita killzone & MM is working on a vita game as well. but, MM has said that they're working on something else besides the vita game.

[torchic]

@8bithero

dude Guerilla has made it no secret that they're working on 3 different games, one was revealed to be Killzone Liberation, the other is another Playstation Killzone, the third is a new IP. so that "Playstation Killzone" could very well be Killzone 4.

I personally think the PS4 will release sometime 2014. what I think the'll do at this year's E3 is unveil PS4, then announce a PS3 price cut, most probably for the 12GB version only. like the article's author said PS3 is selling like hot cakes right now, it's just getting into top gear, it would be ludicrous to comprise it's performance now. I don't know but we won't see a PS4 being SOLD in 2013 (apart from maybe Japan) but then again Q4 2014 will be too far away so maybe Q1-Q2 2014. they did it with the Vita, and I'm pretty sure they'll do it with PS4

[Veneno]

@ Mike Meyers

Don' t count out Beyond 2 souls. Everyone thought Heavy Rain was going to bomb but it surprised everyone by becoming a hit and debuting in the NpD charts in its release month and doing many times better thaneven Sony expected.

Beyond is poised to do even better than Heavy Rain because they have Ellen Paige as Star Power (even my girlfriend recognized her in the E3 demo. She said, isnt that Juno?) .

And with star power like that i'll bet that Sony will promote the game as something big just like an Uncharted tlou or GoW.

So all that said i dont believe we will see PS4 in2013. Probly an xbox cause that thing is done.

[BinaryMind]

It's not just Sony. A lot of developers are scrambling to release their titles in the first half of 2013. Obviously, they know what's coming in the fall...

[SolidStoner]

You all forgot one important thing... Sony is one of those companies that continue to support us with games even if there is a newer consoles... I remember very good when ps3 was out I still played games on ps2 and they come out on both ps2 and ps3.. then after about a year they started slowly to move on on ps3 only (BTW... PS2 still sells now and it seem it have some sort of support!).. So this new summer release dosnt show anything...

[nukeitall]

@MikeMyers:

"Sony has a history of supporting their older systems past the new one. They won't abandon the platform like Nintendo did with the Wii or how Microsoft did with the Xbox. Nintendo knew the Wii was in a huge decline, both the Xbox 360 and PS3 are still selling fairly well."

You mean like the PSP Go? How they promised day and date release of digital games of retail and barely ever did? How many games aren't available? How they essentially canned support for it way too early?

I would be pissed if I paid $250 for a PSP Go, got very poor support after empty promises, overpaid for the unit, got very few games to play and then got slapped in the face with even poorer support by Sony pulling the unit.

As far as I can tell, all manufacturers pull support when it isn't profitable to support it. If you want long term support, you are probably better off on PC, but don't spout nonsense. Sony is no more of a saint than MS or Nintendo.

Everything so far points to a PS4 release and an abrupt cut off for PS3.

[dafegamer]

@torchic dont you mean Killzone Mercenery or am i missing something?

[Tei777]

But why would we know PS3's holiday 2013 line up in 2012?

None of the games that came out this fall were announced before 2012. not saying that ps4 ain't coming next year (although I don't think it should), just think that the release date for The Last of Us isn't saying much. Their current line up takes them up to september (with puppeteer and Beyond), all they need is one more title to be announced for november 2013 (The Last Guardian? Killzone 4 or guerilla's new IP) and you have an incredible line up which is arguably the best the ps3 has ever had. And before anyone dismisses the Last Guardian, sony wouldn't reaffirm its progress multiple times in the last few months if it wasn't on its way. It would be wise to launch ps4 sometime in 2014 and let the ps3 shine next year. Also this way the ps4 could actually launch with next gen games like Dragon 3 and not just current gen ports.

[DigitalRaptor]

Most of Sony's major exclusives will have released by the first half of 2013. But then like you said, there's games that are still to be released late 2013 and probably an overflow of exclusive games into 2014. Games that we have been waiting years for and will most likely not be coming out worldwide next year - 2 of those are The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy Versus XIII. Then there's the stuff that will released by developers who want to take advantage of the PS3's position as a cheaper and more popular console as the more family oriented marketing is put out there, as well as the fact that PS4 development will be too expensive for some, and they can make more back on cheaper PS3 dev cost.

@ nukeitall

I have to question why you're seemingly always going against the grain on these topics and going against what is overwhelming logic. I remember a few articles back you said you thought that Sony were incapable of releasing a PS4 alongside MS because of their financial situation, their focus on first party (even though most will be released by E3), and the "fact" that Sony definitely, definitely aren't going to improve their PSN for next gen (LOL). Now it seems, because the mass majority on here are saying that PS4 will release soon with support continuing for PS3, you're using an isolated SKU of PSP to determine that Sony will "cut off" PS3 support.

Here's just a LITTLE bit of logic for you. PSP go was a market test for them. Not saying that is a positive thing and Sony are no angels when it comes to random decisions like this, but the thing wasn't selling so they stopped support for it as an isolated SKU. Poor guys who invested in one, but you'd have to have been a short-sighted consumer to pick one up so early when Sony hadn't even fully established themselves in digital like they have as of now.

PS3 is still selling and will continue to sell (just like the 360 will). I'm basing this off their position with PS2 when PS3 came out. I have no doubt that they'll do the same family focused marketing to push more units going into their 10th year and beyond. A price cut coming along with that when PS4 comes out only seems logical. PS3 has been profitable since at least 2010 and so you believe they will cut support based on PSP go? Profitability gives them no reason to cut off support so there goes your belief there.

On the article itself get2sammyb posted:
"Sony's able to really extend the life of its platforms because it has longer distribution arms than both Microsoft and Nintendo. It's easy for the company to sell PS3 in emerging markets like India. Also, it sounds like the PS3 is going to finally launch in China, which could be huge."

True that.

And like I mentioned above there are still games that will be released that we've been waiting for going into 2014.

"Everything so far points to a PS4 release and an abrupt cut off for PS3."

Tell me what you consider "everything" to be, cause i'm not seeing where your providing it. So yeah, you're either not seeing all the details or only in this to troll.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

LMAO@nukeitall

http://n4g.com/news/1118004...

He does it again. I can no longer take this guy seriously. He obviously has an agenda.

***"Everything so far points to a PS4 release and an abrupt cut off for PS3."***

How? You seriously think that Sony is going just cut production of the PS3 as soon as the PS4 releases? LOL!

You need to stop letting your hate for Sony and your insecurity for whenever someone says anything slightly negative against Microsoft, from seeing reality.

You even said it yourself; "all manufacturers pull support when it isn't profitable to support it."

So that goes against your "everything points to PS4 release" (LOL not too long ago you was going on about how Sony is too poor to release a system along side MS) and "abrupt PS3 cut off" notion. The PS3 is doing great for Sony right now. It would not make sense for them to abruptly stop selling PS3's next fall if the PS4 does indeed come out next year. Using your "PSP GO" argument holds no water when it comes to the PS3 and you know it, but you keep on bringing it up for some reason, which I guess is to just troll.

[princejb134]

i really hope its released on ps3 and not on ps4
to keep it realistic, i dont buy any next gen consoles to about 2 years down the line

[stage88]

I don't normally buy a console until it's second year but this won't be happening with the PS4. I'm buying it day 1 for certain.

[Dno]

then if you dont buy consoles for 2 years then you have to wait for 2 years to play the game.

I dont want to suffer a bad lineup of ports. there will be a lot of people getting ps4 day one and we want games for it.

[bobshi]

So because you are too poor to buy a new console on day 1, everyone else has to suffer?

Well that seems fair.

[princejb134]

@bobshi

how exactly are you suffering dude?
is a game not your life line

i could buy a console day 1 but just like any technology, usually there are bugs so i wait it out until the bugs are fixed

and when a console is released the game line ups aren't at its best until a year or 2 down the line

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Beyond will probably be good. But I don't see it as a top xmas seller.

I want ps4 and planetside 2.

[BitbyDeath]

Beyond : Two Souls was said to be scheduled for the first quarter of 2013 at E3 this year. Many predict February.

http://www.bit-tech.net/new...

http://venturebeat.com/2012...

[Tei777]

Recent progress reports from the David Cage pretty much dismiss a Q1/Q2 release date.

http://blog.us.playstation....

[wastedcells]

The last guardian Xmas 2013???? Maybe.

[Ryo-Hazuki]

Sony released God of War 2 on PS2 3 to 4 months after PS3 launched. This release date points to PS4 next fall

[yeahokchief]

Yeah I think they'll announce it in 2013, but won't release it until 2014. Still too much good stuff with the PS3 to be had.

[8bitHero]

i cant wait for the last of us and the puppet game! those 2 look freaking awesome.

[HorrorGod]

Who knows, they may have said Beyond: Two Souls was PS3, but it doesn't mean it couldn't suddenly be a PS4 title

[Cam977]

Next year looks unspeakably amazing for games.
In 2013 we have:
• Grand theft auto: V
• The Last Of Us
• Beyond: Two Souls
• DARK SOULS 2!!!!!!!!!!!
• Tomb Raider
• And many more, feel free to enlighten me on more brilliant games due next year.

[brew]

God of War Ascension
Puppeteer
Watch Dogs
Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes

[DeadlyFire]

Either way first batch of new console shipments should include BC from the start for at least 1st/2nd year of next game consoles shipped.

[nevercloser07]

This will probably get ignored but Sony's fiscal year ends July 31st, so this would fill the coffers a bit before the end of their fiscal year.

Just another possibility.

[Tetsujin]

At this point, which will happen first; vs13 or PS4?

[wishingW3L]

and God of War Ascension's coming in March... It seems all the games are coming before the summer. Weird.... ;)

[TristanV1]

God of War always launches on march

[Walker]

It`s Obviously !

[portal_2]

Please, I hope so...

[SandwichHammock]

That'd be nice...but no.

[majiebeast]

The fact that a naughty dog title isnt launching in Q4 is very strange and could point to ps4 launch.

[Beastforlifenoob]

So a game company launches a game every 1/4 year or 3 months?

[Tetsujin]

If Activision had their way CoD would be a monthly release...

[PS3ROCKS]

PS4 with Uncharted 4, KILLZONE 4, God of war 4, Resistance 4 at $294

[FarCryLover182]

Sounds impossible.

[jizzyjones]

Killzone/GT6/BF4/Watch dogs would tickle my pickle as a lineup, can see PS4 bein more like $399+

[Beastforlifenoob]

Dont forget the $4!

[sdplisken]

agreed but ps4 would rock even MORE with
demon's souls 2 and MGS5 exclusive

[DeadlyFire]

haha under $300? No chance.

I suspect $500.

[MysticStrummer]

I know it doesn't fit the theme of "4" you have going there, but I'm hoping Planetside 2 is a PS4 launch title, or at least a version of Planetside anyway. MAG 2 would also make me happy to see as a launch title. As for the price, I think you have it too low there but 399 might not be unreasonable and it would more or less fit the "4" theme.

[Jek_Porkins]

I kind of figured this would be more telling. They wont leave such a great looking game out to dry, even though the game looks amazing, sales might not be where Sony would want it to be if they release it up against a new console.

History is plagued with late releases that went up against new hardware and didn't end up doing very well, Super Metroid, Conker and Doom 3 just to name a few.

I was already figuring on a PS4 launch next year, due to the probably high cost of getting both the next Sony machine and the next Microsoft machine, I have to be careful with the games I buy earlier in the year, so it's looking like Last Of Us, Tomb Raider, GTA5 and Gears Judgment are the games sending me out of the current gen. Looking forward to seeing what launches me with the next gen.

[TombstoneInc]

MW4 is going to be made by Treyarch and IW but it wont be for no PS4 or 720, oh no, ITS GOING TO BE FOR GOOD OLE 360 AND PS3. So that says alot about these new consoles, then the top selling game franchise of all time isnt going to making a game for it next year.

[Pillsbury1]

If anything it's going to be a dual generation release on ps3/360 and ps4/720. Same with battlefield 4, better textures and more
Players per round on ps4/720.

[DeadlyFire]

Why would they make a version for next-gen consoles when they can just build it on WiiU and port it in two weeks. Its not like Call of Duty is going to take chances on enhancing the engine on new hardware.

[DaPrintz]

Yeah man. Naughty Dog Uncharted 2 team releasing TLoU in May. I personally think it was ready in Oct/Nov. That would've been 3 years since their last game. God of War releasing 3 years after GoW3, and no news of what Stig's team is up to. That leads me to believe that Naughty Dog team 2, Santa Monica team 1, Sucker Punch, Guerilla Games, and Poliphony Digital have been full steam ahead on PS4 for some time now. It would explain a small drought this holiday in favor of an enormous send off of the PS3. A man can hope anyway

[dafegamer]

and media molecule as well

[VonBraunschweigg]

Starhawk was released in May of this year, inFamous in 2009 and 2011, MGS4 in June 2008. I like these mid-year releases.

[get2sammyb]

Good shout on Starhawk, I forgot about that one!

[admiralvic]

Lets not forget...

Gravity Daze - June 2012 (JP released in Feb, so it COULD have been a launch title if they REALLY wanted it to be)
Resistance Burning Skies - May 2012 (no faith, but might have done better if released later)

I am sure there are more, but not everything is proof of this gen ending.

[Ps_alm3k]

Or sony could just......

release this on both Ps3 and........

wait for it.............

Ps4.

[Godchild1020]

Legen, wait for it... dary.

I expect Beyond: Two Souls to be for both PS3 and 4. Same as The Last Guardian.

[Ps_alm3k]

they could and should. why not right?

It helps with transitioning into next gen.

[Megaton]

That's what I got out of last night. My money's on next-gen consoles arriving holiday 2013.

[KiLLUMiNATi_89]

That game looks amazing good to be running on a console thats what 6-7 years old? The ps3 has some juice left but that being said, BRING on ps4 already I need new graphics/new blood.. New Graphics graphics graphics graphics is what I need with 1080 p and 60 fps.. All games..

[TombstoneInc]

Guess your a rich kid still living off mommy and daddys money. In this rough economy for them to expect everyone to have 500 dollars to drop is ridiculous, when the current consoles are still very much viable. They still look great, just as the PS2, the games got better at the end because of the technology changing. The games are looking better than ever these days, no need for a new console till at least 2016, an even 10 years after the current gen was released.

[tigertron]

E3 2013 announcement. You know it be true.

[xflo360]

yep true indeed. strap yourself in people i have a sneaky feeling e3 2013 is gonna be the greatest e3 ever.

[OptimisticPrime]

I think this is correct. I always saw Beyond as being one of the crossover ps3 AND ps4 titles. I bet it will be one of the launch titles for the new system. Haven't they done that before with like 360 games that were also ported down to Xbox games as well? I could be wrong. But naughty dog of all people dropping one of their MAJOR releases that early definitely suggests that something huge is coming holiday '13 and the rumors have all been building to ps4 then already anyway!

[Belking]

I don't think TLOU release date has much to do with ps4 at all.

[TombstoneInc]

Why in the hell make a new console, when the current ones are still viable. Not everyone is rich. Hell i couldnt afford an xbox 360 until 2010. So im still getting into the massive library of games in the back catalog. I think its a joke for them to be gearing to new consoles that are going to cost 500 dollars in this economy. UNLESS they play to make versions of the games for current gen for at least 3 years into, its just not right. Infact id be happy if Microsoft would set up a deal for 100 dollars to send in your 360 and have it upgraded to todays standards. That would be better than having a whole new console to worry about.

[portal_2]

And those of use who can afford new consoles should just sit it out in frustration?

PS3 will be available for at least another 3 years after PS4 launches.
360 is a different story if MS decides to drop support again - probably not this time.

[stage88]

If you can't afford it then stick with the PS3 until you can. For me, I have saved up enough and want the PS4 as soon as possible.

[JBSleek]

So because YOU couldn't afford a seven year console until 2 years ago the entire gaming industry should not upgrade next year when it will be eight year old technology and mobile technology would be up to par.

"In this economy" Well we have record breaking numbers of tablets being sold at $500+ every year. The economy is fine for technology. I'm sorry fr your personal economic struggle but that shouldn't stop the evolution of technology.

[nunley33]

I'm sorry your struggling in this years long obama recession, but i choose not to participant in it and will spend plenty this fall on the PS4/OMNI.

[MysticStrummer]

You mean the recession that started under the guy before Obama? Dubya's recession.

[Tei777]

Why are you ranting? Its not law to buy a new console day and date of launch, typically only around 10-12m units are even shipped each year, no one is expecting the majority of the 130m+ who currently own a ps3/360 to adopt these new systems right away. Just buy it 4 years late, like you did your 360.

In the meantime, the rest of us who actually want a new system next year can begin putting some money aside for their arrival.

[ratcop22]

I hope not. I've havent played with my Ps3 that much.

[creized1]

Has anyone thought that it might get released on both systems? PS3 and PS4? And since the original game play from E3 was played on PS3?

[Aclay]

Pretty much the exact same thing I thought to myself last night when I saw the May 2013 release date for Last of Us.

With both God of War and Sly 4 coming out Q1 2013, initially I thought Last of Us was going to be a title that would land somewhere in the September - November time frame. The May release date was a lot sooner that I thought.

Initially my thoughts were: both Last of Us and Beyond would be Fall 2013 titles and I just couldn't see Sony launching 2 brand new IP's on the PS3 while also launching a new console in the same time frame -- which in my mind would've nullified a PS4 launch for late 2013, but now it looks like that could be changing since Last of Us coming out in May.

For the first time in a long while, the PS4 coming out in late 2013 actually sounds a lot more realistic to me because other than Quantic Dreams 'Beyond', all major PS3 exclusive titles are coming out in the first half of 2013...which seemingly leaves the latter half wide open for Next-Gen.

[chukamachine]

PS4

MOTORSTORM4(with cockpits),Resistance4,killzone 4,GT6,Uncharted4.

$400

[get2sammyb]

I'd prefer WaterStorm with jetskis! Drool!

[akaakaaka]

I evenually want to see them but I want a new ip from GG and Naughty dogs first, I mean the two studios have two teams now so they can handle It and resistamce 3 campaign is one of the best single players ever but I will let it rest for a good while or go into a different time frame.
And gt well I love what they did this gen, repeat but with more polished premium car's or all cars been that will be ideal.
A d bribg motor storm back to the realistoc brutality level of the first one and less cartoonist please.

Sony need to make socom relevant again, sony need a great adictive multiplyer shooter and Socom has the right formula if is done right.

[BitbyDeath]

Been sayin this for months.
Always knew Last of Us was coming in the first half of the year, same with Beyond.

[metroidfusion2]

Going off of all of the rumors I have seen about the ps4 it might be coming at the end of 2013 at the earliest or the latest 2016 and wii u>ps4>720

[Mykky]

I'm pretty sure it will come out around christmas next year or around march the year after.

[r21]

This does make sense. Most of the 2013 exclusives are coming out before E3. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Most announced PS3 titles are releasing really early next year.

[PS4isKing_82]

Just for fun, my own idea of how we'll find out about ps4. let me know if it sounds logical or close to how it would actually be :)

"PS4 launching on November 12th 2013. 2 versions. A 250 and 500gb. $350 for the 250 and $400 for the 500gb model with a year of ps plus. Will launch with ridge racer 8, a new SSX, Madden NFL 14, NBA live 14, and more to be announced closer to launch.

" E3 Ps4 reveal is said to start with a long retrospective video going back to the original playstion 1 and ends with ps3 as the words "what comes next?" appear on screen. Jack Trenton then walks out on stage and gives a small speech with a heavy focus on the number "4" in his words."

"Then a Sony rep holding a briefcase joins him on stage. Jack proceeds to open the briefcase and take out what he then says, "ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet the playstation 4. The newest member of the playstation family."

"Moments later we see a huge screen begin showing early footage for ps4 launch titles as the auditorium goes loud with cheers and excitement. At the end the words flash on screen, "This is what comes next! This is playstation 4! "

Hope you guys liked it :) I tried to make it sound fun and logical. While not being too overly impossible sounding either.

[-Gespenst-]

That thumb just screams: "You gon get raped..."

[mamotte]

At this pace, FF VS XIII will be the indicator to the PS5 imminent arrival.

[TheBatman_Fanatic]

I don't understand gamers rushing into next gen. I am content with my PS3 right now and a new console is more money spent on consoles and games, which can be avoided if people would stop rushing for no reason.

[bloodybutcher]

ps3 is great, even though it's an old piece of hardware,and it has games of plenty. but i would love to see what ps4 would be capable of.won't buy it right away anyway, will wait a year or two(well,if everything will be ok with performance and games then a shorter time,i guess). nothing wrong with wanting to upgrade every few years, you know:)

[Picnic]

We've seen about the best that the PS3 can do. We saw parts of it in 2009 back on Uncharted 2.
Puppeteer next year will be an interesting kind of finale though - a throwback to 2D games.

[ziggurcat]

"It’s interesting, then, that the company has opted to lavish The Last of Us with a 7th May release date. Could it be an indication that the PlayStation 4’s coming next Christmas?"

*sigh*

NO.

we won't see the next playstation until 2014.

[Veneno]

Pachter says PS4 will come out Fall 2013?

Okay so that means it won't.

[EffectO]

PS4 details will be all over internet by then.

[cliffyboy21]

im just glad this game will be out soon! this is my most anticipated game for next year. its gonna have a good story line to go with it seeing how its made by naughty dog

[DJ]

The best way to have enough PS Orbis launch titles is to give it strong ports of existing PS3 titles, such as The Last of Us, Modern Warfare 4, and maybe even Far Cry 3 if they can. PS Orbis is definitely coming out next holiday season, and by sticking with mid-range proven technology, Sony will definitely find a lot of success next generation.

[gamern4g]

I dont believe it, Sony told late in 2009 that new consoles will come 2014 december.

[Ritsujun]

The Phantom Pain (X360 and PS3), release date unknown.

[onandonandon]

I don't think next gen's as near as people think! Developers would have the PS4s now if they were launching next year. For example I don't think Rockstar would plough millions into GTAV on current gen if they had next gen consoles in their studio!

[Master of Unlocking]

Wow, everybody seems to agree that next year's E3 will see the revelation of the PS4 then. I for one am not counting on it. There'd be some kind of draught with the game releases if the PS3 was at the end of its lifecycle.

I don't want a PS4 before 2015-2016 at earliest personally.

[bozebo]

If MS or Sony have a console in manufacture now, and the other doesn't - whoever launches this year or mid next, is doomed. The hardware possibilities aren't at a very sensible level, we'd be looking at the most expensive launch in history if they want to have relevant performance in a few years. Unless, there is a big performance/market difference (i.e. if MS target casuals, something a bit more powerful than Wii-U would even be kind of expensive, as in more expensive than a similarly powered PC)

[5eriously]

[", then the PS3 is destined to go out with a bang. "]

How cum? The PS2 is still going so why would the PS3 "go out with a bang"? But for the PS4 coming .......... well I can't wait. E3 will be either very interesting or very disappointing, we wait in anguish to see.

[Garrison]

I can't stop lol just thinking that the last guardian will actually most like come out when the generation ends. Those guys sure do take their time making a game. hehe

[Deku-Johnny]

Too much optimism isn't a good thing, there aren't any consoles coming out next year. It's a shame, I'd love to be able to get PS4 and/or Nextbox in 2013 as much as the next guy but it's not happening.

[gustave154]

Looking forward to Killzone 4 and Uncharted 4 on the PS4...

[Ck1x]

The fact that Sony is putting updated versions of the PS4 Devkits out now and plan on having the final kits before summer of 2013, should be an indication that the PS4 is launching in at least one market by the end of the year. My guess is probably similar to how they launched the Vita. Launch in Japan first by the end of 2013 and then in the western markets by early 2014... Most of the AAA games slated for release in 2013 are big Sellers in the western markets, not Japan. Oh and my only wish is that they don't call the system Orbis! Omni sounds much better and the patent for the Omni viewer is something that would instantly sell me day one on a new PS4.(I like cool tech!)

[modesign]

so having a game release in early may is a indicator that next gen consoles are coming out for christmas,

i wonder how this troll came up with that.

[TemplarDante]

Beyond Two Souls I believe will release September 2013. PS4 will be announced E3 2013 for release Summer 2014. PS3 price drop announced at TGS 2013, as well as a PS Vita Slim announcement.

[cedaridge]

Own to E3! psn: cedar4Thunder / xbl: cedar4Thunder

[jay2]

I agree, PS4's going to be on santas xmas list, it better bloody not be pushed back to March 14 here in Europe again though!

[capox]

OMG guys check this... an official Sony member of the executive board gives some insight about the release date rumors! It is going to be announced at E3 xD OMG OMG OMG

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[gamern4g]

Quia is out in march, june we will get Steam Box. Why i should wait for 2013 christmas to buy PS4? Sony will loose this generation fight!