Michael Pachter revealed during the Video Game Awards that during November the Wii U version of Black Ops 2 only sold 21k copies before the NPD tracking period ended.
Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."
Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"
Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”
Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever
Nice one ☝️
It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.
Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.
1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.
2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.
I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.
Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.
@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.
What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.
Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.
And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.
Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.
With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.
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So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.
They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.
Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.
This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.
No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.
Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.
Replies(3)Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?
Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.
Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.
If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.
Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.
But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.
That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.
Anyone remember games for windows live.
I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.
I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.
You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.
"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."
Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.
"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."
Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.
You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.
Yay steam
Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.
How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?
Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.
Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?
Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.
That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.
Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.
Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.
The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point
I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.
Following the Wii U and 3DS servers being taken offline, Call of Duty Black Ops 2 and Ghosts are officially dead.
So much for all that 1080p talk crap about the U and how is the only console to do it
Pachter is a moron.
Here's some more of sage Pachter (or is that village idiot?) wise words recently
http://www.vg247.com/2012/1...
He said Zynga has some good properties? Zynga is worthless.
He said people giving up worthless facebook to go with worthless google+? Who cares. They're both worthless.
But he said THQ in not investable.
There's been far more than 21k sales. What does he mean, gamestop sales? There were more than 7 days in November to buy it. There's also digital sales. More people
He guesses that they will put 2TB hard drives in a 720/PS4. Really? That's what they SHOULD put in. But since when did should become will? I mean if someone expects the 360 to not be sold at a loss AND be powerful AND have a Kinect 2 AND hand manipulator AND have a 2TB hard drive....then they're a moron.
He also seems to think no 3rd party games are coming to the Wii U after launch. Oh yeah he said that.
What is it about Wall Street that turns people brains to retards? I mean full on retard. Not half, FULL.
Because how Farmville (a bad clone of a 1990's game), and Zynga which is trading a billion times earnings and never made a profit is better than THQ's franchises can only be thought that way by a certifiable moron. Zynga has no future.
Did Reggie talk to Pachter to give him the scoop? No. Better wait for Nintendo's earnings to find out what was really sold. When is someone going to fire his incompetent butt.
Its simple maths with only a few hundred thousand wii u's sold and probably a lot of them sitting under christmas trees the percentage rate against ps3 and xbox which have around a 70 million install base is about the same,also a lot of people who bought the wii u including myself already have black ops 2,why all the negative articles spinning stories about the wii u personally I think the system is great absolutely enjoying it
I know Pachter isnt this stupid ... but how can you compare a install base of 70m vs roughly 400k? Did he expect people who dont own the Wii U yet to purchase COD and put it as a display piece on their mantle?
By % in the first week the Wii U didnt actually do that bad... The Wii U hasnt launched in all markets like the 360 and ps3 (for first week of COD sales) .. but even then if you look at how many games each has sold by % it isnt that bad...
According to both VGchartz The xbox globally has sold roughly 10% of its base and the PS3 has sold roughly 6 to 7% of its base and that's GLOBALLY (In the first week only)... In the US both the ps3 and xbox have sold 5% or less than its 70 million in the first week ... So by comparison it isnt that bad..
I know he realizes this but people buy other games on the Wii at a faster rate than the COD franchise... Doesnt mean COD sux .. but COD and HALO DRIVE sales on the other consoles.. I wont go as far as saying its the only game people buy, but its the only game that draws that many purchases at such a fast rate..
I would go to say that the majority of the people with the Wii U already have another system and if they play COD they didnt wait to buy it on the Wii U .. plus most their friends have it on xbox or ps3 so that is obviously going to hurt the Wii U in the long run but it doesnt spell doom for it because Nintendo has 10 different properties that actually sell better than COD. COD is not going to be heavily invested into on the Wii U which means it doesnt need to sell like it does on the Xbox or PS3 ..
who is that clown micheal patcher...that guy is being paid to keep sony and microsoft fanboys happy with all his negative nonsense and has no clue....the wii won last generation he predicted wrong ...so he hopes haters help him become right this generation but he is wrong again....wiiu is a fantastic system....and call of duty selling 21,000 is nothing as the game will keep selling, the wiiu is a new system with a new install base and he should check the economy as they should deduct his pay for his ignorance.