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Shooters, Let Me Play As A Rookie Moron, Please

Far Cry 3 does something interesting with its protagonist Jason, presenting him not as a bloodthirsty killer with military training, but as some kid, thrust into a situation well outside his abilities or understanding.

SolidSystem4156d ago

The flip side, how would an experiences Rookie actually do anything in a game. He certainly wouldn't know how to handle himself in a fire fight. He wouldn't know how to sneak up and knife a guy.

I would taken away from the experience if I was playing John Smith who never held a gun in his life and was yet an expert sniper when I played him.

REDGUM4156d ago (Edited 4156d ago )

SOLIDSYSTEM, I understand where your coming from. If the actual player is in control, what difference does it make if the protagonist is a dunce? (stupid) or a war hero???
Having said that I also understand where the developers are coming from too, just trying something different.
A slightly similar comparison, in Bioshock when you drink too much, your not in control fully. If ya know what I mean. This can be implemented better in the future I think, but don't ask me, I play games not write them :)

SolidSystem4156d ago (Edited 4156d ago )

games that make my character to be out worse than I am frustrate me. Boss fights you "loose" despite how well you were doing.

I have taken no hits, perfect boss fight, then a cut scene and my hero falls over almost dead and the boss laughing his ass off.

any time my skill as a player goes beyond that displayed in a cut scene or inferred by the story really breaks the game for me.

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also if the game made it so I was bad by like you said....maybe my radical is all over the place and or even if I point at a spot, shots can go all over the place.... I would go crazy as well. The game would have "bad gameplay" and I would pretty much leave. I cant imagine playing a game and my character having a chance to swing poorly and that costs me a boss fight. I want to feel in control of my character.

Linsolv4156d ago

@SolidSystem

Of course, that's because cutscenes are game-ruining elements when they DO anything. Cutscene losses are bullshit and always have been. If devs can't make a boss unbeatable in an actual game setting, then they're obviously not trying hard enough.

SolidSystem4156d ago

@linsolv

I play games for a story sometimes more than I do for game play. I like the universe constructed and the elements of a story I get to take part in.

when I game, I am my character so to have that taken away from me and told "no, despite how good you were doing, you failed" breaks the experience.

so yes... something like my character automatically loosing (or doing anything I other wise would have avoided happening as a player) I get annoyed and the game looses quality.

SilentNegotiator4156d ago

The problem is USER experience, not the game. If you were to play a rookie, you would have to complete undo everything you know somehow and aiming would have to be screwed up or something.

Instead of being a rookie, just let us be weak. and very short on resources. This would produce a similar effect at least.

Thatguy-3104156d ago

Kotaku is always thinking so negative. That's why they always don't enjoy a lot of games. In reality when you are fighting for your life at all cost you do as much as possible to stay alive. Add revenge and the fact that love ones are held captive then I do see a so call "rookie" going on a rampage like the character in the story. The first knives kill in the beginning when he's escaping shows what I'm talking about. Then once you start building up skills gets you more experienced and stronger than you first were. Idk I just think this game is amazing.

Sp1d3ynut4156d ago

Once again, Kotaku shows us that they like to over-think things, just to have an excuse to waste more internet bandwidth.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'd be willing to bet $100 that Kotaku also posted an article a few years back, complaining about FC2 and it's "complex healing system" and "weapon damage/deterioration system". Just STFU and play the !@#$ing game.

DasTier4156d ago

Hmmn this is one of the few things that annoyed me about this game. I would have much rather played as his older brother than Jason himself. He just seemed like a whiney bitch.

Fatty4156d ago

But if you play as a rookie moron, who is going to tell him to hide until the raspberry jam comes off his eyes?

Hicken4156d ago

... all I can think of is Space Balls.

"The radar, sir! It appears to be... jammed!"

-licks jam- "Raspberry. Only one man would dare to give me the raspberry." -closes helmet- "LONESTAR!"

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Which Far Cry Should I Start With? - A Beginner's Guide 2023

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masterfox407d ago

Farcry 3 and literally thats it! lol

GamingSinceForever405d ago (Edited 405d ago )

I recently tried 3 for the first time but the frame rate was a turnoff.

I liked 5 and 6 though.

banger88405d ago

If you have a Series X or S, the Xbox 360 version runs at 60 fps with fps boost. It's a shame the remaster doesn't.

isarai407d ago

2 and 3, pretty much the only ones i really enjoyed. 1 was amazing for the time but aged quite poorly. 4 has the elephant gun, all i can praise from any entry after 3 lol

cooperdnizzle405d ago

Ummmm 3 than stop.

Okay maybe two as well. But yeah probably 3 and then move on.

JEECE405d ago (Edited 405d ago )

Far Cry 2. People constantly rant about games now being too easy, holding your hand, having too many unnecessary RPG-lite leveling features, etc. People specifically complain about open world games being too focused on tons of collectibles and "checkmarks" that just waste time.

Far Cry 2 is an answer to all of those complaints. It was made by Ubisoft before they fell into all the traps discussed above (and before they started inserting towers into their games to defog the map). It has respawning enemies, weapons that degrade, and the collectible diamonds are very useful in the game (which you find in a similar way to the way you find shrines in BOTW with a radar system). The map you have is an in game item you pull out while playing, not a pause menu that is unnecessarily detailed. Also the enemy AI and physics are much better than later entries in the series.

It has a mixed reputation because people at the time said it was too hard, the weapon degradation was annoying, and then respawning enemies were annoying. FC2 came out in 2008, so this was before games like Dark Souls and BOTW had come out and made it cool to like these types of features.

XbladeTeddy404d ago

Far Cry 2, the one with the AI that find you through walls and trees, can one shot you from a mile away and have 100% accuracy? That was frustrating not fun because cheap AI.

JEECE404d ago (Edited 404d ago )

Uhh, I mean, it isn't one of these games where once the enemies have detected you they will magically forget you exist because you walked behind a wall or went into a bush. And yeah the AI isn't stormtrooper level accuracy. Again, these are positives, not negatives to me.

To be fair, I'm really directing this at the people most critical of "Modern Ubisoft" or "Modern Open World" design elements. Like the type of people who fawned all over Elden Ring because it had a clean UI because they are so burnt out by the "checkbox" type of open world design.

If you like those types of games, then a later FC game like 3 and especially 4-5 would be more your style.

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Far Cry 3 Is One Of The Most Important Games Of Our Time

TheGamer Writes "Far Cry 3 is a time capsule of what game design was like in the early '00s"

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Knushwood Butt489d ago

Beat it twice; once on PS3, and once a couple of months ago on PS5.

Doesn't Far Cry 2 have some of the things they are talking about here? Diamond hunting, healing, malaria medication?

shinoff2183489d ago (Edited 489d ago )

I believe 2 did. I highly doubt it was the only game like that though. I imagine the writer isn't old enough to have played part 2 but I also feel it wasn't the first game to introduce stuff like that

They bring up mass effect 2. I felt mass effect 1 was better. It just seem cut down. The citadel was a joke in part 2 compared to 1. How do you cut back on that.

Profchaos489d ago

Having just replayed the entire me trilogy yeah I think 1 was my favourite I think 2 had better cover and shooting mechanics but everything else in 1 was better

jznrpg488d ago (Edited 488d ago )

Mass Effect 1 was the best . It played like an RPG . The other games were more shooter and lost the feel the first game had unfortunately

gurp489d ago (Edited 489d ago )

I played it on PC when it came out, might play it again some time
Far Cry 3 is the best of the series, it was ahead of it's time

Palitera488d ago

It seems the blogger didn’t even play RDR1 if he thinks FC3 brought these elements to the AAA table. Tiktokers always have a new surprise. Smh

Sgt_Slaughter489d ago

"Far Cry 3 is a time capsule of what game design was like in the early '00s"

>Came out in 2012

Okay then

BrainSyphoned489d ago

If we are going to talk early 2000's game design how about start in the year 2000 with games that are a far cry better than something released 12 years later.
"Chrono Cross, Baldur's Gate II, Diablo II, Dragon Quest VII, Final Fantasy IX, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, along with new intellectual properties such as Deus Ex, Jet Set Radio, Perfect Dark, The Sims and Vagrant Story."
The article names things Ubisoft has shoved into games to dumb them down and then claims we should rush off to play it. Maybe instead look back at it as the death of originality from Ubisoft and gaming in general.

glennhkboy489d ago

Far Cry 3 & Assassin's Creed VI: Black Flag are 2 of the very best games from Ubisoft. All Ubisoft games since then are all just copying these 2 games.

ChubbyBlade488d ago

This isn’t an early 2000s game…you’re about a decade to early on that one.

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