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Why "Super Smash Bros." Clones are Doomed from the Start

What are the biggest reasons why so many clones fail to overthrow Smash Bros. if it's supposedly such a simple game?

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mcmmaster4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

Great read that was, loved D.O.N on the PS2. I reckon it mimicked the Smash style pretty good with a bit of uniqueness for the win condition... something All Stars seemed to have taken influence from.

MariaHelFutura4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

Nintendo fans are very sensitive, they don't like games that resemble other games of theirs, epecially now since Nintendo is lagging behind in terms of system power. If Mario and Link aren't in it, it sucks. Such a sad mindstate really. Just like people that think Nintendo doesn't have good games because they have less system power.

AquaRabbit4158d ago

As a Nintendo fan, I welcome Smash clones. It gives me a chance to play Smash, but with characters Nintendo wouldn't consider using. Yeah, there's always hacks (textures, movesets, music, and stages can all be modded with little effort on legacy Wii, but that still requires going out of your way for the experience)

If the game is horrid, the game is horrid. The reason Smash is the standard is because Smash is just a good game series.

I always considered these "party brawlers" as a subgenre of fighting games. I wouldn't mind seeing more games like them.

Deku-Johnny4158d ago

"epecially now since Nintendo is lagging behind in terms of system power." Even though they have the most powerful console available...

jon12344158d ago

there should be a doom, to all these doom articles... oh and to their authors as well :)

SnakeCQC4158d ago

nintendo fanboys are doomed

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake339d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh338d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69339d ago (Edited 339d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21339d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69339d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden339d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21339d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden339d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj338d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot338d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj338d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan339d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan339d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21339d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop339d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77339d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden339d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048339d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage339d ago (Edited 339d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048339d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7338d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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A Decade Later: 5 Things PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Did Well

While Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale didn't get the best review, there are still some aspects of the game that deserve some credit.

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PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Launched 10 Years Too Early

Though PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale is a bit of a cult classic, it could have been a big hit if it launched in 2022 instead of 2012.

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Inverno518d ago

It wouldn't have mattered, Sony would've rushed it out and left it to die. More so now than before with their focus now being on SP narrative driven AAA games.

CrimsonWing69518d ago

Oh, but somehow Smash Bros. 64 made it work?

It just couldn’t compete with Smash Bros. and it wasn’t a free-to-play game like Multiversus.

PapaBop518d ago

I think it released at the right time. It's just after the success of Smash and Multiversus, it's finally time for a sequel.

spoonard518d ago

I'd be all in on a remake or remaster of the original. I enjoyed it because I didn't sit there and compare every aspect to SSB. I just enjoyed it as it was.

Magatsuhi518d ago

Sony should make part 2 and dump a good amount of money on it. Scrap super only kills and it's bound to succeed.

Father__Merrin518d ago

Yes the power kills spoilt it completely WTH was they thinking you should have hp bar that's it

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