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Nintendo showing signs of vulnerability

Stick Skills: "With all of these combined sales, including hardware and software, no one could light a match up to Nintendo in 2010."

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

The soccer moms need to fix their attitudes and go buy a wiiU now!

Ninty will make good monies in europe.

Welshy4157d ago

I don't see anything WRONG with the Wii U, i just don't understand what it's going for or who it is targeting.

As a PS3, 360 and gaming PC owner, it really holds no place for me as i'm not enthusiastic enough about 1st party Nintendo titles to spend £300+ on a new system for them.

And coming at it from a new gamer that doesn't own an HD console perspective, what does it offer me that i cant't get for over £100 cheaper on PS360? With a substantially bigger back catalogue and already firmly established online setups with 10's of millions of users already there in the existing platforms, i just don't see what they are going for.

And if they are trying to hold the current gen once MS/Sony move up to another generation, the points from above apply again, i could get essentially the same thing but still alot cheaper.

If you own a Wii U, i'm sure you're having a blast and all the more power to you, but it just flies over my head i'm afraid =/

N4g_null4157d ago

Your a pc owner... How do you feel about that direct x 8 card you are still using? Oh it has framerate problems, etc hmmmmm what you don't own it any more?

Ok then you understand that we don't care about the back catalog if it has framerate problems etc. So the problem is those games are subpar just like Mac games. Plus you have a pc. What games are we really missing?

Triggytrolls4157d ago

After 7 years of owning a 360 and my ps3 recently breaking, I'm more then happy to buy a WIIU. It looks like a lot of fun, it's got me excited to plays games again.

This gen has been long and for me a somewhat boring one.

I think I might skip the next ps3/360 and just buy a PC.

ShaunCameron4157d ago

I feel the same way about Sony, Microsoft and the PC. Aside from EA Sports games, none of them hold a place for me.

<As a PS3, 360 and gaming PC owner, it really holds no place for me as i'm not enthusiastic enough about 1st party Nintendo titles to spend £300+ on a new system for them.>

grailly4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

"With a substantially bigger back catalogue and already firmly established online setups with 10's of millions of users already there in the existing platforms"
those complaints aren't really reasonable. it just comes down to complaining that the console is new. And nintendo kinda addresses that by having backwards compatibility.

I just bought my wiiU and I can't say I'm blown away, it's fun though, and I can see that there is potential for good games. I'm really impressed with the responsiveness, there's barely no latency at all between the gamepad and the TV.

nintendo needs to get their shit together on the OS though. It's way to slow for what it does, especially when you know a gig of the ram is dedicated to it.

EDIT: was meant as an answer to TheFaceless.

Welshy4157d ago

So that's its purpose? Being "new"? I wasn't being critical, i was genuinely asking what purpose it served from the perspective i put in my comment.

What about when it stops being "new" and is just current? Does it get opened to questions then?

I haven't disagree'd you and with all due respect dude, i think you missed my point.

PopRocks3594157d ago

I reckon to be a Nintendo HD console that offers a variety of methods to play games as oppose to just one that we're used to. The novelty I think is in the different functionality it comes with; touch, motion and classic controls.

N4g_null4157d ago

The purpose, make gpgpu programming the norm? Make two screen gaming the norm. Bring new game play models. Plus it's fun.

grailly4157d ago

My "new" comment is directed to what I quoted from your comment. you say that the wiiU is less interesting because there are less players and less games. I was just saying that any new console would have that issue so it didn't make any sense to use that as arguments.

other than that I don't think that consoles need a "purpose" they just need good games.

from where I stand the PS3 and 360 have no purpose other than to be fun. I don't know why you are looking for a purpose in the WiiU.

Welshy4157d ago

But both the 360 and PS3 DID have a purpose is my point.

Microsoft entered the next gen console market first, so Sony joined the party with PS3 as competition so one company/device cornered the market.

Now, 6-7 years into the cycle, Nintendo pop up with a console that is fundamentally their answer to the PS360 right on the cusp of another generation when Sony and MS are about to move up a notch again.

It just seems like it's entering a market gap that doesn't actually exist.

You could argue that when MS/Sony move up, support will be dropped for PS4/720 purposes, but with the Wii U being so similar to what's already out there, why the hell wouldn't publishers just put Wii U titles on PS360 anyway to the already 10's of millions of people that potentially haven't moved to next gen day 1.

There's nothing wrong with Wii U, it does what it does absolutely fine and by all means it's a solid platform, but i think it's just an unnecessary 3rd platform entering a generation in its twilight era with no actual gap to fill other than to be involved with the core crowd now that Wii has had its day.

Salamander4157d ago

I think you may be missing the point of the WiiU- which is a whole new way to play, which is largely different to what is out their at the moment. But you are probably refering to the graphics, whihc i understand.

And i dont see any reason if your only just jumping into console gaming now, that you might choose out of the three current gen consoles if their near the end of their cycle.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.