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"Black Nerd" Attacks Wii U Haters

A Black Nerd puts Wii U haters and hardcore gamers in their place.

Andre Meadows of Black Nerd Comedy may be a Nintendo Ambassador and fanboy, but he still loves the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, he constantly sees 360/PS3 fanboys and "hardcore gamers" bash Nintendo and its new console the Wii U... a lot of them doing it without even trying it! So "Black Nerd" fights back in the name of Nintendo.

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Neonridr4163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

lol, there's this place called outside by the way, it's really nice, its got like sun and stuff.. XD

ape0074163d ago

LooooL this guy is AWESOME, SUBBED to him instantly

BlackNerd4163d ago

Thanks so much for subscribing to my channel!

LOGICWINS4163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

@BlackNerd- I agree with pretty much all your points. Although, me not wanting to buy a Wii U has more to do with the lack of appeal Nintendo exclusives have to me as opposed to me "hating" on it or not being able to afford it. I would be interested in playing Bayonetta 2, but as of right now, I see nothing that justifies the purchase of a Wii U.

Even if your a diehard Nintendo fan, why not wait until the inevitable Zelda, SSBB, Donkey Kong, and Metroid titles come out to buy a Wii U...at possibly a lower price point? I never understood the whole mad dash to buy a console at launch when its at its most expensive and has its crappiest games.

There are MANY legitimate reasons to criticize the Wii U. Meager hard drive space out of the box, lack of an optical audio drive, having to buy the pro controller for shooters and fighting games since the gamepad isn't ideal for those who take these genres seriously, barely more powerful than the PS3/360 etc. Its fine for u to call out the haters, but also understand that not all criticisms are hate.

fatstarr4163d ago

lol awesome indeed, he sounds like my comments on n4g.

AO1JMM4163d ago

Same here. He is hilarious!

darthv724163d ago

To be fair, there is a difference between "hardcore" gamers and "core" gamers. While you would think one is derived from the other. That is only partially correct.

Hardcore was coined from the idea of a gamer being so dedicated that they essentially played anything and game related. Be it puzzle or shmup or sports or platform types of games. It was an obsession for that gamer to be as versed in everything gaming as possible.

Sadly, there aren't many like that anymore. That designation you had to earn in the gaming community. For several years now that classification has been replaced by a new one. The "core" which actually is a self proclaimed title by those who feel they can be called that due to the genre of games more so than the amount.

Since the age of the FPS, new players think that by playing these shooters or violent action games or any online based competitive game they are automatically given this title.

That is the problem with younger generation gamers. An entitlement issue that has skewed their way of thinking. They won't acknowledge the existence of other opinions when it comes to what is a game and will look down on those who do not share the Sam pov as them.

There are a few of the original "hardcore" still out there. We are older and have a more sense of respect and can be entertained by the latest action or shooter as much as even the simplest puzzle game.

I say this because the hardcore don't necessarily want to be associated with these "core" because it is them and their attitude towards games systems and others that make it look bad for the rest of us that just want to enjoy this industry.

Baka-akaB4163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

Not saying that's your overall point or tactic Blacknerd ... but i'm tired of the recurrent sophistry and "laissez faire" attitude and defense we see for a bunch of game items and game related subjects . especially the "if you dont like it just dont buy it" variety

As commercials products they all deserves sound criticism of their pros and cons , and if fans can't handle the truths or perceived truths about it , they should heed their own crap and ignore what they deems hostile against said products .

A lot of die hard Nintendo fans needs to grow a thicker skin, or better yet realize that criticism you don't necessarily feel the same about still has merit.

It's really getting a bit ridiculous. The logic I'm seeing most times is just... pitiful

Many of the people criticizing the Wii U grew up with Nintendo. If you are over the age of 20 and play on consoles, chances are you grew up with the NES and/or SNES. Classifying people who feel that Nintendo has made a lot of oversights with a 2012 console as "nothing but haters" is really immature.

guitarded774163d ago

@BlackNerd

Loved the video... you make a lot of good points. There are a lot of detractors when it comes to any console manufacturer or game publisher. It's just part of being successful... you're gonna have haters. It happens in every entertainment medium.

One thing that pisses me off though is if a person has a legitimate concern or criticism, they are burned at the stake by fanboys. I spent $600 on day 1 buying Wii U, games and accessories. I'm kinda let down because Nintendo didn't implement a trophy/achievement system especially since Miiverse is the perfect vehicle for such a system and Reggie said "We'll have all that" when referencing trophies/achievements on Wii U. I'm also concerned at the level of censoring Nintendo is doing on Miiverse and on their Facebook page. I agree that most people are just being stupid hypocrites with their complaints, but some criticism is good for Nintendo and gamers. If we just roll on our bellies every time Nintendo does something we don't like, and do not put some pressure on them to make the best console, games and online community, then we miss out on something great. Nintendo "fans" (I hate to use such general terms) are the worst when it comes to attacking those who constructively criticize the company and they perform a disservice to the gaming community as a whole because of it.

Since you have so much influence in the Nintendo community, would you please ask Nintendo point blank why Reggie said "We'll have all that" when asked about a trophy/achievement system in an E3 interview with GTTV? When anyone asks the question, they get attacked by rabbid Nintendo fans that say "achievements are stupid"... I don't care if they're stupid or not... I care that Nintendo said "We'll have all that", and they're nowhere to be found aside from being able to post to Miiverse when a player performs a certain accomplishment in NSMBU. Your argument for giving Nintendo credit for what they have done with Wii U is only valid if you're willing to criticize when they do something wrong.

MasterCratosKong664163d ago

@Baka

I know it sounds redundant but your criticisms can also be criticized. When someone points out something wrong with your criticism, it should be heeded just like the original criticism to the subject itself. That's how civil debates work.

vickers5004163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

"That is the problem with younger generation gamers. An entitlement issue that has skewed their way of thinking."

Yes, because older gamers don't have entitlement issues at all.

/s

I agree with most of what you are saying, but to imply that older gen gamers are all (or mostly) true gamers (the ones who enjoy all genres of gaming)and all or most younger gamers are just self centered entitled brats who think themselves superior to other gamers because they play violent games/shooters is a huge generalization and simply not true.

I've seen just as many older gamers put down other peoples opinions as I have younger gamers, and just as many entitled older gamers as I've seen younger gamers.

It would be absolutely stupid to believe that this is simply a generational thing. This is an individual personality thing.

Being an entitled/ignorant a*hole has no age limit, and is not more common in either group of gamer, be it young or old.

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deafdani4163d ago

Sun? What's this "sun" you speak of? Can I eat it?

Knight_Crawler4163d ago

Happy Black Friday to all my people!

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SilentNegotiator4163d ago

Black Chad Warden doesn't consider the real issues.

For one, the large update. It's hell on the basic system's internal HDDs. No, I don't care if YOU have a 2TB external harddrive, some of us want our saves on the internal harddrive and have little to no plans of buying large DD games. We don't all want tumors attached to our systems to have all of our saves by the end of the generation on our system. By the size, it was clearly an important part of the final OS - they should have had it on the Wii U in the first place.

@Gimmicks stuff
The 360 and Ps3 weren't built AROUND the Kinect and Move, however. In MANY reviews, they have found the interface to be slower using the gamepad, as opposed to something like the D-pad.

@Old titles
Uhhh, yeah, he really doesn't make ANY real points there. People just don't feel the need to buy a new system when the main attractions are old games. And he compares collection packs with late ports? http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It's easy to be arrogant when you ignore the actual issues. All this guy does is make irrelevant arguments and use a whiny mock voice.

deafdani4163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

I'm deaf, so I can't comment on the video per se, but I wanted to counterpoint your arguments:

1. The update isn't THAT large. It's only a bit more than 1 GB in size, not the 5 GB that almost everyone erroneously reported. Although I'll happily aknowledge the fact that it definitely would've been better if it had all those features ready at launch, instead of being put in a day-one update. But precisely because it's not that big, it's also not a big issue, and hardly a deal breaker for the system.

As for hard drives, if Nintendo included a large internal hard drive from the start, it would've ramped the cost of the console even further, and we would've gotten less internal space than what we could buy outside with that extra money. Calling it a "tumor" is a bit ridiculous, because the Wii U console itself is ridiculously small, and you can just plug the hard drive on the back of it, and nobody will see it.

2. Interface slower using the gamepad? Can you point me a review where it states that? Because, as a Wii U owner, I can attest that's not true at all. The data streaming from console to gamepad is instantaneous. The interface works exactly at the same speed with the gamepad as it does with using a Wii Remote, and it's actually much faster to tap things on the screen than to navigate them with a normal controller. Oh, and the gamepad has d-pads, too. I don't understand what you're talking about here.

3. Old titles and ports: the Xbox 360 and PS3 had a lot of ports in their launch lineups, but somehow it seems Wii U doesn't have the right to do the same without being heavily criticized for it. And never mind the actual original content, of which there's quite a lot: Scribblenauts, Zombi U, Mario Bros U, Nintendo Land, etc. Oh, and some of these ports aren't exactly old, namely Assassin's Creed, Sonic All Stars Racing, Black Ops 2.

N4g_null4163d ago

All that you said was fine and dandy. SUN!

Yet I'm really liking having my 10 games on a harddrive! You get a message and bammmm you can start playing! No getting up to put a game in! I'm a big fan of disk based software but I'm loving the option to install and launch with out a disk. It is a very pc like freedom.

Omg is the gyro accurate in zombi u and black ops along with Nintendo land. It is way beyond motion plus... It really isn't a gimmick if it works that damn good!

Plus while I'm playing the old wii thur the wiiu I can even adjust the sound from the game pad. Or while I'm playing the wiiu.

While is this console going to make us all fatasses! LoL.

Zombi u has a minecraft feel too it except it is pure survival. You can shut and barricade doors?

It's so good to see the wiiu in final form. To tell you the truth many where still in the dark about many things that would be included in the final system.

The wii emulation has a very emulated look to it... As though the resolution could be changed. Some things are smoothed over while others render as if they where on a pc, interesting.

Powerwise? Gpgpu are a beast at some things. Even Sony is thinking about using one. If Xbox does have sixteen core it will be in the same boat.

Unless they all use an i3 intel chip! Ms has a bad taste in their mouth from that and Sony got raped by nvidia. That leaves arm, IBM, and amd the masters of open cl lol.

This development will actualy make more developers use direct x11 on pc instead of direct x9. If Sony abandons gpgpu computing the programming gurus will jump ship. Oops.

MikeMyers4163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

@ SilentNegotiator

So tell us, how large are the save files?

Nintendo is trying to keep the cost down. They don't want to release a $500 or $600 game console. We see time and again storage issues. From the Xbox 360 and not all of them having hard drives, to paying $100 for minimal upgrades in the iPhone and iPad, the Playstation Vita, Even the PS3 and it's original 20GB model was a pain considering how many games require a partial install.

We don't know how limited the hard drive will be on the Wii U unless someone can tell me how many games require large portions of hard drive space to play. I just like the fact they support outside party hard drives. Something Microsoft still doesn't do.

There is simply a lot of negativity surrounding Nintendo, some legit and some not. What is noticeable is a lot of it comes from people who have yet actually spent a great deal of time with it.

Abdou234163d ago

@ scissor_runner

You sayin that you can install the your games and play them without having to put the disk in ?! or were you talking about DD ?!

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StanSmith4163d ago

He is 100% right. As a 360/PS3 owner, I think the hate on Nintendo is petty and childish. If it doesn't interest you, fair enough. Nothing wrong in that, but to go into every WiiU article, hating and repeating the same tired crap again and again is just plain sad. Those doing that need to find something to do in life as they've clearly got issues.

I'm still getting a WiiU. It looks great. I'll also pick up Sony/MS' next gen offerings too. All this crap about "but, but it's not powerful enough" doesn't mean a damn thing to me.

wishingW3L4163d ago

you could say the same thing about those that go into every article praising Nintendo like a blind sheep from left to right. Everybody sees things differently and have different opinions that's a rule from life.

StanSmith4163d ago

Yeah, you're right. But there's a line. When you start going into every PS3/360/WiiU article, just to trash it (Mika) then those people need to find something better to do.

I'm not against people having different opinions, just those who repeat their opinions blindly in every single Sony/MS/Nintendo article here.

It's one of the reasons why the open zone needs to return on N4G.

jmc88884163d ago (Edited 4163d ago )

Actually I don't see a lot of fanboys, just haters.

The people referred to as fanboys are the ones pointing out that we still don't know squat, and the information used to bash the Wii U is dubious at best and full of holes. Hardly fanboys.

There are SOME of course. But for the most part we have the reality brigade against the haterade. With a few sprinkles of fanboys on top.

Fact is we don't know what the bandwidth is of the ram. We don't know it's timings or actual clock speed. We don't know it's latency based on the setup of the console. We don't know the eDRAM, how much is in it. The combined bandwidth of all these things combined.

We don't know much beyond 7XXX GPU.

We don't know much about the CPU.

We have devs that haven't done one line of code on the Wii U bashing it as weak, whereas those that actually have, love it.

We have haters taking all this dubious info and proclaiming it as fact. Using launch titles and more specifically launch title ports developed around the 360 as supposed PROOF of it, even though we know such factors hold newer systems back every time.

You have many of the haters no aware of the limitations that Sony and MS are facing with their new consoles and thinking it's going to be some uber beast that can strangle an abominable snowman while kicking a bigfoot's butt. Those factors...power required (<300 watts versus 700-1500 in PC's)...heat...cost of components...space...diminishi ng returns...reliability...not wanting to lose money per console...add in's like Kinect 2 and hand manipulator (let alone a tablet controller).

So no, it's mostly haters based on fiction versus the people waiting for facts. Again with a few pro fanboys on top.

At some point all these things will be answered and be facts....but for right now, they aren't. Anyone that says otherwise is being foolish.

r214163d ago

I wonder if this is Turk's cousin, the blerd.

fresh2death934162d ago

he's black and he's a nerd... whats so hard to understand ?

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing9d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.