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Xbox 720, Sony PS4 transition has been too slow

Alan Ng:

It’s fair to say that the anticipation for next-generation consoles is the highest its ever been, with potentially just 12 months remaining until Sony and Microsoft unveil their respective PS4 and Xbox 720 consoles, which they hope will provide consumers with a new and better ‘next-gen’ alternative to Nintendo’s Wii U which has just released in the US.

It’s also fair to say that the wait has been a painful one for gamers, albeit an understandable one, as there’s no changing that final hardware once its out, highlighting the need for Sony and Microsoft to perfect their consoles as much as possible, before finally biting the bullet ahead of potential reveals at E3 2013.

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Perjoss4167d ago

I dont think the transition is late at all, both consoles are still releasing very good looking games. As long as both companies address the biggest concerns for each console (xbox needs reliable hardware on launch and the ps4 needs to be more developer friendly) i don't see the problem.

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Thatguy-3104167d ago

Being how it has taken so long for next gen to come I have no idea how people believe Microsoft and sony wont release new consoles that are superior to the current ones. If they were going for a small upgrade wouldn't they just have released it already?

danswayuk4167d ago

PC hardware isn't what I want, but the gap is massive with what consoles can do, so XBox 720 and PS4 are needed badly. One look at real PC gaming shows how far behind consoles are, but we will be sitting pretty next year one again for a few years.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

PC hardware is what you will get though. either way.
RU READY!!??
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

at this pace we will get playstation 9 in 48 years. yay?

Eldyraen4167d ago

I doubt next gen games will look that nice, especially not at launch and expect to run at 1080p and 60fps.

I simply think the leap from this generation of consoles to today's top of the line PCs is way too high to be financially feasible for either MS/Sony to be willing to take the required loss on consoles or sell them for astronomical prices (compared to past consoles). They could of course do it and I'd love them to look like that but it just seems a bit of a stretch and be a huge financial risk (especially in today's market).

I do think the leap can and will be substantial but not as noticeable as current gen and their PC counterparts of today (top shelf ones anyways). Still, if they "only" look as good as top tier PC games of the past 2-3 years its a huge step up and more than sufficient as they'll be able to push them a bit further as better hardware will be lowest common denominator this time (which is often overlooked--PC versions ATM are still "capped" by console specs for polygons, unless tessellation is allowed).

No matter what though as long as they're not too gimmicky (Wii) I'll be picking them up for exclusives and to play with console friends.

decrypt4167d ago

@danswayuk

U will be getting very low end - low end PC hardware at best with the next consoles. Software will be sold with every royalty charges so the middle men Sony and MS can leach on.

Bottom line is both the consoles will be even more PC like, yet just locked down and even more under the control of their masters aka MS, Sony.

Outside_ofthe_Box4167d ago

***"U will be getting very low end - low end PC hardware at best with the next consoles."***

Cut the BS. Next gen consoles will essentially be high-end PCs at bargain price similar to how the PS3 and 360 were when they launched. Don't be jelly.

Jimmywilhelm4167d ago

Exactly, unless box has some sort of information all we can go on right now is rumors.

And the rumors are looking terrible, Obviously outside has no clue about hardware. A 6670/7670 is a decidedly lowend GPU. Even when it was new the 6670 was low range.

We're going to see another gen full of stagnation and lazy development.

black9114166d ago

Show me atleast 3 retail pc games that look better than Beyond:two soul?

Jimmywilhelm4166d ago

max payne 3, crysis 2, just cause 2, assassins creed 3, sleeping dogs, natural selection 2, metro 2033, the witcher 2, mirror's edge, battlefield 3.

I could go on for a while

Summons754167d ago

How can there be a transition between ps360 to ps4/nextbox when they haven't even been announced. Sure there is a high possibility of them being announced next year but they haven't now so there can not be a transition.

Ryo-Hazuki4167d ago

PS3 2013 line up is looking really nice.

Ni No Kuni
God of War
Last of Us
Beyond
Tales of Xilla
MGR
DMC
GTA 5

etc

I will buy the PS4 day one but next years line up will hold me off until then

AngelicIceDiamond4167d ago

Well, PS360 are future proof consoles. Sony and MS don't want to rush into new consoles just yet they wanna completely maximize the install base as long as possible with online offerings and continued 3rd party support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere57m ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion33m ago(Edited 31m ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos31m ago(Edited 31m ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto11m ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion27m ago(Edited 25m ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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