Skyrim 1.8 Update On Xbox 360 Leads To PS3 Anger

product-reviews.net: Unfortunately and unsurprisingly, there is no release information on when the same patch will be landing on the PS3 version of Skyrim. As you can imagine, PS3 users have again taken to Bethesda’s comments section to let their frustrations be heard towards the developer, with Bethesda actually deciding to respond to a few comments on this occasion.

[MasFlowKiller]

leads to PS3 anger?

[aviator189]

lol...yeah, that part doesn't make sense.

[Myst]

My ps3 is steaming with anger!

[59fifty]

So i guess that was the problem with the 360 at first, It was made angry, it was Heated with anger! It's cool now though.

[bwazy]

@Myst

It's okay, our PS3's love Steam.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

Wait... you guys didn't hear?

PS3 gamers are getting Skyrim dlc...

Its called Skyrim: F**K YOU PLAYSTATION!

Seriously... the system is almost at the end of its life cycle, if you have no idea how to make a game for it by now... why did you try in the first place?

[Dee_91]

is this why my ps3 has been grumpy and ignoring me all day ? ....... I dont even have skyrim I swear these things are more confusing then women

[Mounce]

WHOA PS3, MAN! CALM DOWN! YOU'RE STEAMING WITH RAGE!

[SilentNegotiator]

My Ps3 went to the gym to blow off some steam. She looked furious when she walked out the door.

[Silly gameAr]

Another article made from a few PS3 users venting in a forum. These articles are getting pretty popular for writers.

[thorstein]

Excuse me, but these people are not writers.

[Temporary]

Does anyone still even care about this? Those wounds healed long ago.

[Zodiac]

The wounds opened up when i got a second arrow to th- never mind, i don't anyone cares about that joke anymore either.

[violents]

I do, I only own a ps3 and would like to play the dlc and have updates to fix my rediculously broken game. My wounds were fixed until i got screwed out of dlc.

[Ares90]

@Zodiac I was amazed at the fact that it was considered a 'joke'.

[Irishguy95]

When the new DLC was announced it was a bit much no? The new dlc > Uncharted

You can mount a dragon.

[Blacktric]

Oh great, now fifty others will reply to this with other unfunny stuff. Way to derail the whole point of the article.

On topic; this shouldn't be THAT surprising since everyone knows how much of a sh*t company Bethesda is.

[extermin8or]

tbh my ps3 got pretty pissed off at me when i put this badly coded crap into it lol it froze alot and refused to run, whereas put something like say battlefied 3 in and it's singing :P but I have skyrim on PC now where it works and moddders have fixed most of the stuff bethesda are too incompetent or lazy to deal with

[MasterCornholio]

That already happened on launch day with the game and with each screw up (Dawnguard) PS3 owners of the game become more frustrated and more likely to not buy a future Bethesda title on the PS3.

Motorola RAZR i

[Jazz4108]

I believe the badly coded crap you are refering to is called the cell with its split ram. The game works fine on other platforms as well as most multiplat games but with ps3 this has always been a sore subject and it starts with sony. If you enjoy sonys exclusives for what they are then great but dont expect much else from the ps3.

[Jinkies]

Are you surprized after how PS3 fans have been treated

[luoshuigui]

Actually yes, Bethesda has always been anti-Sony, Morrowind was never released on PS2, Oblivion PS3 got more than a year delay and had been missing DLCs until the GOTY version was out, FO3's 360 version are overall superior than PS3 version especially graphics and effects.
All these years Bethesda treated Playstation users like crap, and after all that those people still chose to buy PS3 version of Skyrim are either ignorant or stupid, if they are ignorant they shouldn't even know those DLCs and patches exist,if they are simply too stupid to understand Bethesda hate them, why would they be mad?

[TheDivine]

Ps2 couldnt run Morrowind for one and two it was a PC game. Only reason it was on Xbox was that it was more like a PC (western) and MS had deep ties to the PC croud like Bethesda and Bioware. The reason Oblivion was late is that the 360 hit first. The 360 was also the western (aka PC) console and these are Western games. PS was generally an Eastern console that didnt recieve games like this (until the 360 made them popular). The reason Bethesda games run like shit on Ps3 is because it has shit ram that isnt fast enough or large enough to run these games. Be glad the Ps3 even got Fallouts/Elder Scrolls. Better than nothing right?

[SITH]

There was no way ps2 could run morrowind. Xbox had an advantage with an external hard drive. At the same time, I agree with people are stupid for buying skyrim on the ps3 given the history of Bethesda with Sony. But I blame the hardware not the developer.

[extermin8or]

@the divine; wtf are you on about? The ps2 got plenty of western titles.... Those games you mentioned were pc releases because either like with morrowind the ps2 couldn't handle it or b) games like battlefield relied upon online play as a big part of their draw something that only recently has taken off on consoles.....

[Dark_king]

@TheDivine "The reason Bethesda games run like shit on Ps3 is because it has shit ram that isnt fast enough or large enough to run these games." This comment is funny sure the 360 has a smaller OS footprint leaving more ram for dev however its actually slower then the ram the Cell has access to.The games run like shit because they are not properly coded for the ps3 its that simple.

[SJPFTL]

lol the only reason oblivion ran better on PS3 than xbox was because of the one year delay, plus it came with the dlc Knights of the Nine already.

[fjtorres]

@Dark_King: The two consoles have the same anount of RAM but in the PS3 it is partitioned into 256MB general-purpose RAM and 256MB video RAM, whereas the XBOX has a single 512MB pool. That means that for games and applications that aren't graphically intensive, the XBOX can act as if it had almost 400MB of RAM. (Maybe more if the game uses tiling.)
Open world games like the Bethesda RPGs need a *lot* of memory to keep track of the objects in a given geographic "cell" or to hook in DLC and this is easier to implement in the XBOX where they can allocate the 512MB RAM any way they want between game logic and the graphics, so they can, for example, set aside 192MB for graphics and leave 320MB for the game environment. To achieve this on the PS3--and it *has* been done--requires a constantly running routine that "manually" moves environment data from general RAM to the graphics RAM in an area where the graphics chip won't be using it and then moving it back to where the environment logic can find it.
Alternately, they would have to re-code the entire game environment using more but smaller geographical cells (as they apparently did with Oblivion) but that takes a total rewrite of the game--about a year, judging by Oblivion.

As for Morrowind, its environment was an order of magnitude bigger and more complex than even Oblivion so it absolutely needed an HDD and its graphics, while crude by current standards, were beyond the reach of the PS2 graphics memory; even with a HDD, a PS2 version would've had a draw distance of maybe 20 feet. And in a game where you can fly miles high, draw distance was critical or pop-in would kill you; literally, clift racers are a serious pain if yu don't see them coming.
(Remember, PS2 had 32MB ram and 4MB graphics ram, whereas the XBOX had 64MB shared memory; it could devote 32MB to graphics and still have 32MB for the game logic. And indeed, the *minimum* requirement for Morrowind on the PC was 32MB of video memory.)

The issue isn't Bethesda; it is simply the nature of the beast. Partitioned-memory architectures simply aren't a good match for open-world games, that's all.

[papashango]

Damn man. Well said

[spektical]

Don't buy it. There are ways to manage memory RAM in terms of paging. Open world games work well with the ps3 the problem is lazy devs. No excuse for having memory core dumps in any final software product. It's like releasing a car with brakes that work half the time

[DigitalAnalog]

Then bethesda by all accounts, deliberately took a task either:

A) believing they can fulfill the challenge.

B) Scamming PS3 into a quick buck.

Your points all direct to B). It is as you mentioned, they have to "re-code" the entire game environment which would take a year longer. Which then indicates that the PS3 was literally taking assets directly from the 360 (like many other failed multi-plat implementation) that caused this problem.

[WeAreLegion]

PS3 anger leads to PS3 hate. PS3 hate leads to PS3 suffering...

[Godmars290]

Well it is the Dark Side.

[Zodiac]

You forgot fear in the beginning. Fear leads to anger, then continue.

[WeAreLegion]

No. I did that on purpose. I even had to Google it to get the last part right. Lol.

[League_of_Draven]

Bethesda is irrelevant. They shouldn't bother with patches or more buggy DLC. They should just stop everything about Skyrim and start working on a new engine for the next Elder Scrolls game. Skyrim didn't feel like a satisfying Elder Scrolls game in any sense and it's the worst one ever made.

[cleft5]

Skyrim PC is amazing. The console version of the game felt awesome too for the first 60 hours or so. Thats more than a lot of game developers can say about their game. The problem was that after the initial fun Skyrim console became a dull game unless you had some cool additional dlc for it. DLC that 360 people got and ps3 people got screwed out of for no good reason. The fact that a company as large as Bethesda wasn't able to release additional content for the ps3 just screams incompetence.

If they where planning on releasing a lesser game for ps3 than they should have charged less for the ps3 version of the game. No matter how you look at it, it's clear that the ps3 only players got screwed over and they have every right to be upset.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

yup pc gamers always get patches first!

[Adva]

Their games are probably the most bug ridden game this gen. Fall out, this and countless others.

[secretcode]

Sonic 2006.

[MysticStrummer]

I had far more bug problems with Dead Island than with Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Skyrim.

[brish]

I never had any problems with Dead Island ... because I've never played it! ;-)

[Spenok]

Meh. I have given up on this game ever getting DLC. They say one minute don't hold your breath. Then the next say they are working with Sony and to expect it soon. Then patch after patch and DLC after DLC comes out for PC/360.

And besides, I already got the Platinum for this game xD

[GreenRanger]

Here's a new Thu'um that you can use on Bethesda.

[MikEyG]

Hahaha

[aquamala]

Good thing Bethesda and treyarch don't need to deal with the Cell next gen

[MastaPiff]

If they (Bethesda & Treyarch) ever joined forces on a game it would YLOD your PS3 the moment you popped it in, followed by a sizzle noise & the smell of burnt plastic. It would probably be most epic game ever on 360 though!!! LOL

PS3 owner MastaPiff asks: Why do you give these companies your money when this is what they give you!?

[Treian]

The PS3 version is broken and all Betheseda cares about is the money.

[Anon1974]

So, judging from these comments - I'm the only one here who loves Skyrim on his PS3 apparently. I've probably put about 80 hours or so into this game so far and my experience has been next to flawless. I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about. Skyrim is hands down one of the best games I've played this gen, period. They had some issues that effected a minority of users at the start and it took them what, two weeks to patch this? And they've been supporting it ever since. If Betheseda only cared about money, why would they be releasing patches at all. Are those the actions of a company that doesn't support it's products?

I don't know what bubble you guys live in, but the critics loved Skyrim on the PS3, the fans opened their wallets and it sold over 4 million copies on the PS3 alone, almost double the PC sales. I don't know who all these people are who hate the game on the PS3 because every single one of my buddies that played this game, including myself, didn't have a single issue.

To me it's no different then those that hate Gears, or Halo, or Grand Theft Auto, or COD. Once something becomes popular, there will always be those that instantly have to hate on it. Doesn't matter if it's movies, games, bands, tv shows, books...you name it.

You guys can bash Skyrim all you want but I'll just go back to playing it...because it's fantastic. Just like Fallout 3 was before it. You can all go back to your little hate party and feel all smug in your satisfaction that somehow you know better. I'll go back to playing excellent games that I love to play.

[vikingland1]

Well said,I have the xbox version and finished this game a long time ago. But a couple of my freinds have it on PS3 and they love it. Heck one of my freinds has multiple characters with lots of hrs and still no problems. I don't get the hate for this game I loved it. The music even gives me goose bumps when I hear it LOL.

[Getowned]

I came across some bugs actually, and a few were actually game breaking. I was able to reload a prior save and finish the story but it sucked, hours worth of gaming down the drain. I don't think it's as broken as some claim it to be, but I'm glad that some people are pushing devs to update their games and fix bugs. TBH the lack of DLC on the PS3 is a vary poor part on bethesda's behalf and it only hurts their reputation and any profits, the irons cold now and they should of struck it while its hot, any dlc they release on the PS3 now probably wont sell as much as it would have originally... well now I'm going back to playing excellent games that I like to play :] ... just not Skyrim.

[bloodybutcher]

i agree, i loved fo3 on ps3 and atm i play skyrim as much as i am able to.only bugs and glitches i encountered where texture loading problem on one mountain(it was jsut dark grey without any surface imperfections) and on few occasions floating objects while trying to read(books) or pick them up(sacks with coins).and it froze once, but it happened with few games so i don't see that as something horrible,although it's a bit annoying.

[jessupj]

Well good for you.

Unfortunately, for a lot others they suffered game breaking issues.

So just because the game was fine for you no one else has a right to complain, or if they do they're just cry babies and need to suck it up?

If that's what you're saying I find that very ridiculous.

[AlphaJunk]

Money is The Reason these companies are in business - at least that's how I understood all of my business classes... The text books could have been wrong...

[Treian]

Yes, but don't expect PS3 owners to be buying any Betheseda games anymore for a long time. What happened to the days of releasing a game that was finished and had minimal bugs?

[AlphaJunk]

"Yes, but don't expect PS3 owners to be buying any Betheseda games anymore for a long time"
- just don't cry (like now) when you have less third party games on your console.
Considering Skyrim has sold 6 million plus games on the Xbox and about 4 million on the PS3, I'd say it's only going to hurt the console that doesn't have that game. I think Sony knows they need those games.

[Kingthrash360]

I haven't bought skyrim yet... Does that mean my Xbox is mad too?

[MastaPiff]

Don't ask that... It leaves you sooo open...

Try in g no t to re s p o nd .... ARGH!!!

[Kingthrash360]

My Xbox turned on by itself.... I think.... It's .... Watching me..

[TemplarDante]

I have a mouth to talk.
Fingers have I to type a reply to Bethesda.
However, I shall let my wallet do the talking.
The DLC debacle shouldve gotten it into these guys heads, to lazy devs, the ps3 is a problem to work with. Activision and Bethesda LAZY!!!
What game will illustrate this?
GTA 5 . Rockstar, thankyou for being you.

[Sykoticz]

The only anger i have for this company is not being straight up with its customers. All they need to say is sorry Ps3 users we cant make the dlc work on ps3.

[chukamachine]

Skyrim is so overrated.

Wander around in open worlds doing the same thing over and over, crap story's, poor characters. Boring gameplay.

Yep it's a 10 from me.

[-Gespenst-]

The story's pretty good on paper if you ask me, it's just that the engine seems to be unable to make anything dramatic. Most of the dramatic moments in the game are just awkward and weird, and often completely impotent.

[AlphaJunk]

Maybe the problem is with Sony.... Every other developer seems to work great with M$'s Xbox. It seems there are so many articles with PS3 owners whining and threatening these game companies over the years... I'd say the blame is on Sony.

[Sp1d3ynut]

It largely is, but I don't blame PS3-only owners for being upset. Maybe their anger should be aimed at Sony as well. But, just like Gabe Newell used to be anti-Sony, Bethesda is obviously still not too happy with the PS3 architecture...and love the PC-like architecture of the 360. MS made major inroads this gen with 3rd party devs with their amazing support network. They will send a 360 team ANYWHERE, to make sure the dev has what they need to make a game work right on the 360. Sony, on the other hand, only does that for exclusives. That's why there's such a great disparity between how their 1st party games look and perform, vs. most 3rd party multiplatform games.

But I give Sony credit for acknowledging this, and deciding to eschew Cell, and go with a more dev-friendly architecture for PS4 (assuming all of the previous "rumors"/leaks hold true) They know that they lost a ton of cred this gen with fans and devs alike, and it seems they are looking to fix that next gen.

But to be fair to Sony...it's almost 2013 ; if you've made 3-5 games on a platform over the course of 6 years...you should probably have a handle on the hardware by now anyway. So yeah, Bethesda needs to get their sh*t right as well.

[-Gespenst-]

To be honest I can take or leave the dlc. I think I had my fill of Skyrim with the main game sans dlc.

Dragonborn looks good I guess, but if it never makes it to Ps3, in all honesty I won't be that gutted. There are other games I'm much more excited for.

When I finished Oblivion, I was super excited for whatever the naext game in the series would be. It just seemed like it would be larger than life. When I finished Skyrim, I kind of felt I'd had my fill of Elder Scrolls. Unless they really revamp the franchise with the next game, I'm not so sure I'm bothered.

[Human Analog]

And this is why I own both systems. using history as a teacher, I decided to go Xbox on this one. It turned out to be the right choice. I guess I don't understand how this far into the console cycle, gamers don't have both anyway. As far as my experience has shown me. If you love games, and want the best choices to be available to you, then you need to own all the major consoles during each new cycle. I never liked having to concede my choices due to one or the other. I am not loyal to anything, just gaming in general.

[listenkids]

Developer of the Year 2011.

[Embeepee]

I feel bad for PS3 gamers, Skyrim is an awesome game!

Bethesda fucked up pretty bad

[Hellsvacancy]

I dont want your pity, I enjoyed Skyrim, got the platinum with no trouble

[darkvenom]

that's some nice trolling there.

[isyourhouseonfire]

I think its safe to say Sony should NOT bother making a PS4. They fell so far behind with the PS3 I just don't see it as a smart business decision to go down that same path again.

[jessupj]

You want the only company that actually cares about the core gaming industry to stop?

I thought a gamer would pick one of the other 2 well before Sony.

[maniac76]

Blame sony for maken such a alien platform to dev for haha

[Unlimax]

I'm Shocked ..

I'm literally shocked to know that they win the award of the best developers in 2011 !?

[Unlimax]

*facepalm* my Keybored keep spaming .. sorry ;[

[sdplisken]

FUCK YOU BETHESDA

go suck on microsofts shaft along with activision see if i care

i encourage my fellow ps3 players to BOYCOTT this shit as well

PS3 is still the No 1 HD console
LONG LIVE PLAYSTATION

[Sp1d3ynut]

Typical N4PS3... delete random posts for no reason, and yet allow this stupid, offensive fanboy garbage to remain. This site is so pathetic.

[memots]

Fuck time I hear anyone's ps3 was angry over this.

[hum_bug]

not surprising...

[tommygunzII]

I platinum'd Skyrim on PS3. As much fun as I had and as much as I loved it I could give a damn about DLC.