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The Game Fanatics' No Shame November: I Like Your Least Favorite Final Fantasy Game

TGF: Being one of the new guys around here, I thought I’d go ahead and get this out of the way early on, what with this being “No Shame November” and all: I love Final Fantasy VIII.

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Jinkies4179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

Since when has FF8 been the least liked FF game...I thought we were past this years ago. I like FF13 is peoples least favorite FF game in the main series.

Besides people just didn't get FF8, the reason why people "hated" it at first was because it wasn't a FF7 sequel despite knowing each FF game tells a differnt story. People after that just went on what these hardcore FF7 fans were saying and thats why FF8 got bad rep, if FF8 came out before FF7 it would be hailed as the best FF game ever...same goes for any FF game to be honest.

In my opinion I thought FF8 was better, all the negative points people pointed out for FF8 were exaggerated or they had clearly not played the game since there problem was explained in the game. Lets not forget despite people calling Squall an "emo" Cloud was basicaly the same, Squall had the best character development in a FF game. From a lonely, selfish jerk we meet at the beginging, to a loyal, brave leader who gains friends and opens him self up to a girl he falls in love with by the end of the game, its what I liked most about the game, each disc changed Squalls character with the events that play out. I also thought the characters were much realistic in the game for their age and what they were doing.

Shame it gets some hate, I'd understand if it was like FF13 where things were bad like characters, plot, gameplay but it was a true FF game with a good story. The only negative thing I could admit about FF8 is maybe the few plot holes, like why dosen't Doctor Odine not just destroy the machine Ultimecia will use in the future but then again most FF games have plotholes here and there.

Godmars2904178d ago

Sorry, I like FF8 too, but its "plot holes" were the kind light cannot escape.

Its that the plot and story issues in it and much of the series were given passes that Square thought they could get away with offering FF13 in the state they did. That they're still doing it with 13-2 and 13-3.

Donnieboi4178d ago

There are no plot holes. You missed the point of the story entirely. Play it again, it's about time paradoxes and if you pay more attention, you will see that everything loops/repeats itself, explaining away any supposed loop holes.

wishingW3L4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

I like FF8 because of its style, music, the world in itself is pretty cool and nostalgic. I like overpowering my characters with the broken battle system and not to mention the awesome card game but the truth is that the story was its weakest point and not to mention the shallow characters with no personality or background stories like FF6's.

Irishguy954178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

I liked FF8 to, it's one of my favorites, and wow, cloud was so not an Emo, replay it he wasn't a sad little ***** in the game, only once when he kicked the **** out of Aerith. He was crazy sure, but not an Emo.

I also played FF8 before FF7, and I still think FF7 is better. For many reasons too.

Main Story - FF8

Characters - FF7 by miles/squall was the only good FF8 characters, FF7 all get their own story.

Side stories - FF7 by miles, FF8 didn't really have much though

Gameplay - FF7 by miles again, some people will disagree and don't like side quests, however I will make a list of 'gameplay affecting moments' with Bolded big ones

Hit enter button at same time as companions
Find batteries
Dress up as girl
MOTOR BIKE MINI GAME
Chocobo breeding
Avoid Midgar Golem(snake)
PHOENIX REACTOR - Strategy RPG
Rescue little girl from Drowing
Jump on cable with Dolphin
March with Shinra soldiers getting movements correct
Fall from bridge correctly to collect Item
GOLD SAUCER
CHOCOBO RACING
Nibelheim mansion - Codes/boss/Vincent
Find Yuffie in forest, find Yuffie in Wufie(whatever)
SUBMARINE minigame
Search your way through snow in mountains + keep warm
Digging site

Ah, I can't be bothered, anyway, this game had so much additions to gameplay to suit each moment. FF8 had about 5 of these type of things bigs onces being the Seed tests and Card game, along with GF hunting

FF8s battles system was too easy but...I guess ff7's is too, just not as easy, the Junction system was too Overpowered

Music - Tie - Reason? ----- FF8 simply has more epic music, but FF7's music gives off a better atmosphere in general, for example, FF13 had decent music, but it was not suitable for each moment, especially for example the epic boss music which simply did not have a 'boss' feeling. FF8 did give in to the atmosphere, but FF7 did that better. Every piece of music suited it's moment from, Jenova - Sephiroth - Shinra - ending world etc.

Graphics - FF8, don't care much about this though.

Battle system - FF7, Limit breaks too Op in FF8, they needed no charging/too usuable. There was also no lines, I think FF8 is the first one to take out Attack-defense lines. They were brought back in for FF9 and 10

My overall reason FF7 is my fav FF? The atmosphere

Godmars2904178d ago

- How did Squall survive not only a near if not fatal wound and 30-50 foot fall but quickly recover?

- Why with TV transmissions blocked for 20 years was a jumbo-tron not only still being serviced but powered? Or even still where it was.

- Why did Irvine take on the job of trying to kill the Sorceress when he knew who she was? Not tell the group he knew them well after?

- How did the Sorceress "force" exist at the same time in Adel, Riona and Edea?

- Where did the time travel ability even come from when it was separate from the Sorceress Force?

While FF8 explains how Edea becomes the Sorceress, it doesn't touch on how it came to exist before or continue on after the events of the game.

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Whitefox7894178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

I wouldn't go along the lines of calling Cloud emo in the original FF7 since he adopted himself as the living persona of Zack Fair (you know that really cheerful guy in Crisis Core who frequently likes to do full body squats) for more then half the game. The emo representation of him was made with Advent Children and any future representations of him.

The rivalry of fans between FF7 and FF8 is more or just the same as it is for fans of P3 and P4. I believe this rivalry just proves as a testament of how much of an impact these games are that the fans analyze all the information and flaws between each game. That alone should tell you enough how good the game is.

If I had to say personally between the two which one was my personal favorite I would have to say FF7 because I obviously played that one first (granted enough it was the crappy port Eidos did for the PC [Windows 98 did not like it that much] though for some reason FF8 on the PC turned out so much better...). Like I said its more of an opinion if anything else, if I had to pick my personal "best" Final Fantasy in my opinion I would say its FF 6. Not going to explain why it just is.

Lets just hear the iconic victory theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

majiebeast4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

There are so many worse final fantasy games then 8. 8 had doom train making it automaticaly not the worst final fantasy.

For me corridor simulator 13 was by far far far the worst final fantasy after that X-2.

Dno4178d ago

both 13 and 10-2 were great games

-Gespenst-4178d ago

I think XIII-2 is better than XIII in terms of gameplay and longevity, but I think XIII has a tighter story. Both their soundtracks are awesome.

And yeah X-2 is incredible. I think people find it hard to look past the Dressphere system and the light-heartedness of it. Not only is the dressphere system really awesome (basically a jazzed up version of the job system), but the light-heartedness is good fun, and the game isn't without it's really serious stuff. It's a worthy sequel to X and it was amazing to return to Spira.

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Blastoise4178d ago

I like 9, 5 & 12. The three nobody care's about...

Whitefox7894178d ago

Hehehe most people haven't played or even heard of FF 5.

Tsuru4178d ago

And i feel sorry for them.

-Gespenst-4178d ago

IX's not my favourite, but I love it and lots of people I know regard it as their favourite.

You're right about V and XII though. People don't seem to care much about them. I love them though .

XII is a great game. Amazing world, gameplay and music, and V is awesome. Not the best cast of main characters, but an awesome, world, story and soundtrack.

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10 PS1 Games That Actually Need A Remake

With hundreds of games, some of which are considered to be classics that hold up to this day, you’ve got the pick of the litter when it comes to choosing a potential remake

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RaidenBlack20d ago

^This. THIS!
Stop remaking PS4 games!
Remake PS1 and PS2 games à la FF7R, RE1, Mafia, Half Life style ....
Make Legend of Dragoon, Legacy of Kain etc Remakes happen

darthv7220d ago

Legend of Dragoon... WTH is Sony doing just letting this one squander?

-Foxtrot20d ago

I wonder if their mindset is like “meh we have Final Fantasy what’s the point of our own JRPG”

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@-Foxtrot,
Square-Enix had a long period there where it seems they didn't know what to do with Final Fantasy, I think that time period would have been a good time to revisit their classics and remake them. Now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the franchise, so they have less reason to revisit those older games. I wouldn't mind if they subcontracted them out to other developers, that and I don't trust SE to remake their older games.

Cacabunga20d ago

Simply because i do not think it will succeed.. maybe a bad example but e we got Medievil remake after many years fans have beg asking... result is It flopped hard. Remaking a JRPG is so risky. Only a bunch of hardcore gamers who played the original would buy it. If Sony put even more budget into it then it’s even more risky.

As i suggested before, i think they should start remaking like square did with Star Ocean. Or something similar to Octopath Traveller. Build up some hype and try on higher scale later on..

Terry_B20d ago

Let me tell you about PS1 games that should get a remake actually.

Jumping Flash (As a VR game)
Ridge Racer 1-4 as Ridge Racers 3..just like the pretty perfect PSP RR1.-2 games but with even more content
Xenogears
Cardinal Sin which was full of nice ideas for its time but was plagued by technical limitations
Bushido Blade ^^ just like CS
Bust A Groove.
WWF Attitude. With the same roster, same voices,Only slightly updated gameplay but current gen graphics
Dynasty Warriors..yes the fighting game that was similar to Tekken 2 while it had weapons.As nice as the DW games are..its a shame they never released a new fighting game

And while I am at it.

Thrill Kill ...hell yes.

KyRo20d ago

Ah Thrill Kill, the game that was banned/cancelled but everyone had played 😂 what a throwback!

darthv7220d ago

jumping Flash would make a great VR game. Im actually quite surprised nobody has thought to do that one... even on the indie side for something like the meta quest.

GhostMirror20d ago

Big yes to Jumping Flash! and Ridge Racer revivals. Bushido Blade was cool as well; it was pretty deep and so much different from other fighting games at the time. Einhander was another good non-RPG from Square, which was kind of rare for them in that era.

Didn’t Thrill Kill eventually get re-skinned and released with a Wu-Tang Clan license? 😂

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I miss Ridge Racer so much, give me a new game or at least a collection of the older games! I had a blast playing Ridge Racer PSP on my PS4 a few months back.

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FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I cannot understand the current business practice of remaking games from the previous generation, especially when they are very much playable today and still hold up well, it's even worse when people are willing buying them again. The PS1 generation is so ripe for remakes, I know more than a few people who would clamour for a Xenogears remake, or almost any game from that list.

Ravenkiss20d ago

and Valkyrie Profile Lenneth. They did Star Ocean 1 & 2 R already, VPL should get the same treatment.

Redgrave20d ago

I assume this to mean that you aren't considering the PSP port to be the remake in this statement? Like a remake of that one?

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

That version is quite old though, that was 18 years ago, so doing a remake in the vain of Star Ocean might be worth it (I did not think the PSP was that old until I looked it up).

Knightofelemia20d ago

I'd be down for FF8, and Xenogears. But I would also be down for Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. And I wish Namco would get off their ass and remake or remaster the Xenosaga trilogy.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

There's been talk of a Xenosaga trilogy on the proviso that there was enough demand, I hope that actually happens one day.

Christopher20d ago

1. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
2. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
3. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
4. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
5. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
6. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
7. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
8. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
9. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
10. Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

LoveSpuds20d ago

What a fantastic game that was!

Skuletor20d ago

You forgot Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

Snookies1220d ago

Why does From Software not do ANYTHING with this franchise... It's so sad... Can't they at least outsource it to someone to try a revival?

leahcim19d ago

masterpiece, best OST of all times.

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Final Fantasy Games That Deserve the Remake Treatment

Final Fantasy has a long running history with numerous numbered titles and spin-offs, but which games stand to benefit from a remake?

gold_drake126d ago

i feel like all of them.
well except 2 haha.

shinoff2183126d ago

Agreed. Ff2 though can be made better, so it's not entirely a lost cause. Ff8 will gets its time. I do wish they'd do the old ones. From ff10 and up those ones still hold up pretty well.

kevco33126d ago

Honestly, I've always felt that VII and up 'hold up well' in that regard. The early 3D games just needed a cosmetic update. But the FFVII Remake is so different to the original in execution that a lot of games could be done in a similar fashion and feel far more modern.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing (that depends on your personal preference!), just that they could feel very different.

shinoff2183125d ago

Kevco I liked remake but I think your right. Idda been happy with a 1 to 1 remake that looked like ever crisis to. Or both

I'd just love I square would one day give us a turned based one with today's graphics. I can't really think of a jrpg that does that.

andy85125d ago

I'd rather the 13 trilogy just be ported tbh. No matter what you think if it, it shouldn't be the only numbered offline games not playable on new consoles. But naturally I'd play the **** out of 8-12 remakes.

shinoff2183125d ago

I do agree. I'd give it another shot even though I didn't like it at first. My taste change over time. Gta 4 for instance I was so disappointed it lacked so much of what san andreas had I didn't play it for like 5 years. One day went to a semi pro football game(American football) came home drunk and decided to try 4 again. I actually liked it after giving it a fair shot.

Rebel_Scum125d ago

Just make new games. Not every game needs to be remade.

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All Of The Final, Final Fantasy Bosses, Ranked

BLG writes: "Final Fantasy bosses are swimming with challenging and exciting battles. Over the course of the series, the game has evolved from turn-based battles to more action-oriented gameplay. That has allowed players to see a variety of battles and types if you’ve played multiple entries across the decades. Bosses you see in more recent games like Final Fantasy 15 are grander in scale than those you might have seen on the Super Nintendo in the 1990s. That doesn’t always equate to them being more legendary, though. "

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RavenWolfx756d ago

Yeah, Yu Yevon was such a disappointment.