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Xbox 720's features will be more about design and services, says EA

The Xbox 720's features will be interesting once the console is revealed, but EA says this system needs to be more about its design and what it can offer consumers in addition to gaming.

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iNFAMOUZ14174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Hopefully state of the art tech is implemented, we all know pc will always be ahead but this is time for xbox to re claim its title as tech giant, DO IT microsoft!
oh and forget services its all about the games

Abdou234173d ago

One of the main reasons i'm thinking of switching to PC, is that companies now care for TV services more than gaming itself. I really buy gaming consoles just for the games.

SilentNegotiator4173d ago

Exactly. When I read "More about....services", I just thought "How is that physically possible for the Xbox brand to be more about services?? Are they going to cut out games entirely?"

Gazondaily4173d ago

Didn't anyone seek to report this article for the misleading title?

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4173d ago (Edited 4173d ago )

pc is about to get even better!

"In other news, Gabe said that Valve wants to move on to DRM-free releases"

also since source engine 2 is coming imagine the free amazing content on pc!

http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

@ Cam977 below

"EA’s president of labels Frank Gibeau said while giving his Keynote at GamesCom 2012 that he’s seen Sony and Microsoft’s new machines."

http://www.gamesthirst.com/...

maybe there is some truth then?

DeadlyFire4173d ago

It would be nice to have a cheaper console with only console game services.

Although I suspect 3-5 Tflops will be the goal of Microsoft and Sony. If you consider the possibility of GPU + APU. Max I would expect is 130W at very maximum. Which if you consider 8850 to be in the running it runs at 2.99 Tflops + APU which are said to aim up to 1 Tflop. Possibly 2 APUs running along side each other in the consoles with possibly GPU on the side.

Cam9774174d ago

Misleading title!
EA merely suggested this happen, they didn't directly state it IS what's happening.

ShoryukenII4173d ago

EA made zero mention of the 720 as well. This isn't new from Examiner. Just rate the site down so we don't have to deal with their hit hungry crap.

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tehpees34174d ago

People are still going on about power? Its about the games. not power. PS2 was the weakest system of last generation yet had the greatest library by far.

hennessey864174d ago

Isn't all about graphics, more power means better A.I, better physics, bigger gaming worlds etc I look forward to seeing what Microsoft and Sony come up with next generation and I will be buying no matter which is the most powerful.

wishingW3L4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

it seems people still believe that powerful hardware only means prettier graphics but they couldn't be more wrong. More power, specially for physics and AI will enhance games beyond what any gimmick could.

Not sure if this is the right wording to express my point but my English is limited.

ronin4life4174d ago

You can always attain such effects by simply taking focus away from processing... you guessed it, the graphics. Optimization and stability will lead to better games far more than blindly upping the power and causing development costs to rise.

Great games have always existed regardless of power. Or all those ps1/xbox classics simply deal now that they are "outdated"?

nukeitall4174d ago

@hennessey86:

Actually, more power is not necessary in hardware or more of x, y, and z.

It is often to do with the tools available and the ease of using that "power" or better said, possibilities.

PS3 is an excellent example. It's processing power is almost unmatched, yet poor design caused it to lag behind its direct competitor. Some smart design decisions (instead of bonehead ones) would have made it a screaming monster!

zebramocha4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Can we stop bring the ps2 up,it was weaker than other systems but didn't stop Sony's first party from trying to make beautiful or a game thought technically impossible on their system.

@ronin Why would cost go up? If the system is strong enough than they wouldn't have to optimize as much because it could handle it.

nukeitall4174d ago

I'm surprised that people still clamor to power, when this entire generation is turned up side down. The most powerful console is last place, and the least powerful console is at the top!

Get it, it ain't the power, but the application of said hardware!!!

It is almost always been about software, and very little hardware.

madjedi4173d ago

@scofios Yes it was the weakest of the bunch, but you had alot of talented devs that made kickass games despite the limitations.

To all the people downplaying the importance of power look at the wii's lineup vs the ps3/360's lineup. Really are you people this dense? Sorry it's not even a contest.

You can sit there and scream retro pride ect all you want, but new generation games should take advantage of more powerful hardware.

"The most powerful console is last place, and the least powerful console is at the top!" Well since i am not a shareholder of either company, do you have a relevant point for a gamer?

Sorry never was interested in the sales game, funny how during the gamecube's gen, nintendo fans were it's all about the games. This gen it's lol #1 in sales and the highest metacritic score ever, so will good games be the goto argument for the wii u.

Always a nintendo guy shouting about how "power" is overrated, yeah yes it's easy to say that when your games have been the same since the gamecube. Why would power matter to games that are still stuck in the past.

I swear too many retards think, just because gamers think power is important, that we are all mindless graphics whores.

So why do you nintendo guys need to buy the wii u, the wii should be more than sufficient since you don't deem power or graphics as relevant just gameplay. If that is truly the case you should be perfectly happy with the original nintendo entertainment system's graphics

nukeitall4173d ago

@madjedi

"You can sit there and scream retro pride ect all you want, but new generation games should take advantage of more powerful hardware."

There you said it *take advantage of more powerful hardware*. Keyword "take advantage of"! PC has plenty of brute force power, but is rarely taken well advantage of.

It is about easily accessible power that will make an impact.

"Sorry never was interested in the sales game, funny how during the gamecube's gen, nintendo fans were it's all about the games. This gen it's lol #1 in sales and the highest metacritic score ever, so will good games be the goto argument for the wii u."

To be fair, there will always be people saying something about something on every side of the fence. Stereotyping an entire group of people based on individual experiences isn't realistic.

Finally, sales is *THE BEST* method of determining demand for a product. If consumers buy one item over another, then there are more people vouching for it than another competitors product, pure and simple. It is the strongest vote, regardless of what the reason is.

FYI, no I'm not much of Nintendo fan.

"Always a nintendo guy shouting about how "power" is overrated, yeah yes it's easy to say that when your games have been the same since the gamecube. Why would power matter to games that are still stuck in the past."

What is so different about Xbox 360/PS3 games? It is pretty much the same games that existed on the PS2/original Xbox just a larger scale.

Furthermore, Wii actually has games that has never really been done prior with motion control. That little popular thing that changed an entire industry and propelled consoles to grandmas and soccer moms.

"I swear too many retards think, just because gamers think power is important, that we are all mindless graphics whores."

Nothing you have said have told me anything else, albeit I don't necessarily believe that about gamers in general.

"So why do you nintendo guys need to buy the wii u, the wii should be more than sufficient since you don't deem power or graphics as relevant just gameplay. If that is truly the case you should be perfectly happy with the original nintendo entertainment system's graphics"

There is a lot of "generality" in what you are saying so it's hard to discuss, but I think what most people talk about power, they are talking about negligible increase in power. By almost all respect the PS3 and Xbox 360 is on par, and any differences are almost negligible. They really don't enable much difference and I certainly don't want to pay gobs of many for this negligible impact.

If you want power to matter, make it so. Don't give me something that I can't tell!

Ironically, the Wii U is again introducing new "power" that other consoles don't have, such as the tablet. It also introduces a much better facility to handle new ways to experience your game that isn't possible on other consoles. Example of this is the PS3 inability to have cross game chat, which Wii U will have plenty of RAM to handle. Not everything in hardware power has to be to "graphics..." or richer environments.

scofios4173d ago

PS2 was the weakest system.

Explain why it runs games like god of war 2 , shadow of te colosses, grant turismo 4, Black if it was weak???

beerkeg4173d ago

It had great games, but the hardware was the weakest of the bunch. Which proves that power isn't the be all and end all.

SkyGamer4173d ago

Art direction and pov. They remove a lot of stuff to add to the visuals. Gotta sacrifice one for the other.

DragonKnight4173d ago

People seem to think that power only equates to graphics because that's all the developers use power for, better graphics. That's thanks to the vocal fanboy idiots who only want "photo realism" in their games and forget that if all resources are put into making a game look good, the rest of the game will suffer for it. You want people to know what "power" truly entails, tell the developers to actually use it properly.

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Cyb3r4174d ago

Call me old fashioned but I only want a games console for playing games if I want to watch TV shows and sports then I will use my TV on its own for that.

wishingW3L4174d ago

The only thing I have hooked to my TV is a console so the more features the better.

KMCROC4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

I also only want a phone to just make calls on & not help me how to find my way or locate a gas station when run out of gas. better yet tell me about a restaurant before i eat or order from it , but you know what who needs all the convinces of the modern tech world to help navigate & entertain us or just make life easier.

JBSleek4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Yes you are old fashioned and outdated. It's 2012 the time for dedicated technology is over.

Yes I understand you want gaming but at this moment having a dedicated gaming console is suicide. These are going to be media devices that also play games.

Imalwaysright4173d ago

Well then sell your console. You clearly dont need a gaming PC or consoles. They are redundant to you as you can play games on your smartphone and/or tablet. Why spend money on a device that will become redundant?

Consoles will always be bought for 1 reason and 1 reason only: to play games. All the other crap is just a bonus. No one will buy a console to access facebook, stream movies or listen to music. That is why apps on a console are not a necessity. They are nice to have but no will buy a console for them.

Persistantthug4173d ago (Edited 4173d ago )

Are you trying to say they were wrong to do so?

Home Consoles from here on out will me multimedia & multi-service devices.
Frankly, I don't see why that has to be "wrong".

Why can't we all have both, Imalwaysright?

JBSleek4173d ago

"Well then sell your console. You clearly dont need a gaming PC or consoles. They are redundant to you as you can play games on your smartphone and/or tablet. Why spend money on a device that will become redundant??

"Consoles will always be bought for 1 reason and 1 reason only: to play games. All the other crap is just a bonus. No one will buy a console to access facebook, stream movies or listen to music. That is why apps on a console are not a necessity. They are nice to have but no will buy a console for them."

1. Never use the word always because nothing is forever.

2. People want media devices in their consoles.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

http://news.cnet.com/For-So...

3. Gone are the days that consoles are used in your words for gaming because the "hardcore gaming" community can't sustain them.

4. So people didn't buy the PS3 because it was the cheapest Bluray player? Or that you could use Linux on it correct? Or people didn't get an Xbox because it could be a replacement for over priced cable?

Look I understand you are passionate about gaming but really if you think that consoles are only for gaming than you are really foolish.

Imalwaysright4173d ago (Edited 4173d ago )

@ Persistantthug They bought a PS3 because it was the cheapest and the best Blu ray player at the time. Everyone knows that. Dont you?

@ JBSleek Of course people they apps on their console. Will people buy a console for those apps? No. Do you know anyone that bought a console to access facebook? I dont. When discussing with your friends wich will be the best console next gen does any of them say that console X will be better than console Y because you can access facebook with it? I doubt it.

People dont buy consoles for apps. Look at the Wii. The thing outsold the self-proclaimed entertainment hubs by a wide margin and didnt needed the ability to access facebook to do so. 3ds is stomping the Vita and is lacking in the media capabilities vs the Vita. Consoles will sell regardless of what apps they have and dont need them at all. Consoles sell because of its games, every other crap is just a bonus.

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glennco4174d ago

and you want your mobile phone to be just a phone right?

SilentNegotiator4173d ago (Edited 4173d ago )

You're aware that not everyone has a phone as smart as your ass, right?

Plenty of people still use "dumb" cell phones. Not everyone has any sort of need for internet or Angry Birds.

beerkeg4173d ago

Some people still live in huts Silent, what's your point?

SilentNegotiator4172d ago

Comparing smart phones to HUTS?

Talk about a stretch.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein40d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga40d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo40d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken40d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN40d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199239d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575640d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies40d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde39d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai40d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken40d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay39d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil47d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162447d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken47d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188147d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein47d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6947d ago (Edited 47d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33647d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6947d ago (Edited 47d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8847d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken47d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades46d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188147d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion47d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator47d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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