A.I, camera, graphics and gameplay issues revealed for ‘Assassin’s Creed 3’

CD-Action, a Polish gaming magazine that played through Assassin’s Creed 3, has revealed some A.I, camera, graphics and gameplay issues that is plaguing the game.

[Muffins1223]

Looks like its a bit to ambitious for current gen consoles...

[DigitalAnalog]

Agreed. But from the looks of it, the game may actually deliver. This should be commended as opposed to the cookie-cutter nonsense we've been fed this gen.

Hopefully, this is just a bunch of minor issues that doesn't detriment the gameplay in any major way since open world titles are bound to have problems like these.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

I hear that ubi is launching a day 1 patch for Ac3... it would suck if the game doesn't turn out well

Especially considering the fact that this game brings so many changes to Ac... I hope the game does well... sales wise, yeah I don't care, but I hope it meets the standards of the people

[SnotyTheRocket]

I got the game a little early (mail) the only issue i really have with game is the draw distance in the city and shadows, other than that, the game is freakin' amazing. its the feeling you got when you got into AC2 for the first time.

[MaxXAttaxX]

That stupid 1 year cycle.

[Awesome_Gamer]

A simple Day 1 Patch will fix those issues, i know it's annoying that most games this gen ship broken and then get fixed later, but what can we do? :/

[DragonKnight]

@NathanExplosion: The game was in development for 3 years, not 1.

[Cam977]

I have to agree. Just like Frostbite 2, it's far too advanced to run on current consoles nicely.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Awesomegamer

What can we do? Well first of all gamers can stop bending over, close their wallets and tell companies and developers that we won't stand for this anymore.

Day 1 patch, how pathetic. A supposedly Triple A game like this and it's not even out yet and already needs a patch? The games industry will only get worse with each new generation, because to them it's instant gratification instead of getting what we paid for, a non broken full product.

[starchild]

It looks amazing. I'll be buying the PC version, so hopefully many of these issues won't be present.

[A2X_]

Too ambitious for current consoles? look at Red Dead Redemption.

If the camera is not working correctly, then Ubisoft needs to fix it. Along with the bugs (at least some) mentioned in the article.

"There are issues with the camera, sometimes it positions itself very poorly and sometimes even stops working (as in you can't move it with the right stick)"

No excuses.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

This isn't a fanboy statement, but there is more going on in Ac3 than there is in red dead

More than 1000 characters on screen at one time
Ocean waves
Weather actually effects mobility
Trees and rocks are scalable

and a lot more

I love red dead, but Ac3 does have a lot more going on in it... I really hope its not plauged with problems

[MostJadedGamer]

No what they needed to do was delay it until the game is ready. Ubisoft simply refuses to delay AC games after AC1.

[DigitalAnalog]

Not to put down RDR, but most of the tech ends up trying to "simulate" aspects of the old west. Gameplay on the other hand is just GTA 1890. Nothing truly worth noting about other than the atmosphere.

[A2X_]

@Nimblest-Assassin

I agree with the fact that AC3 is trying a lot of new things & I could overlook most bugs as long as they're not game breaking.

But not being able to move the camera could be a pain in the a** & needs to get fixed. I waited so long for this game, I want it to be as polished as possible.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

The camera lock, as the article says only occurs while tree jumping... so when you are jumping from tree to tree, I can see this being frustrating as you would need to adjust the camera to see where you are going

Its no secret I've been anticipating this game, ever since the details were announced... and It really would suck if these problems persist

[bunfighterii]

Red Dead was full of bugs- but none of them were so incredibly jarring that they ruined the game. I think we need to all be a lot more forgiving of bugs, they are a part of gaming and always have been. The difference between now and 10 years ago is back then you'd laugh at a glitch and keep playing, now people go psycho on forums blasting developers.

[jeromeface]

AC games are only delayed on pc due to publishers being scared of ppl pirating it instead of being force to buy it on consoles. With how much 360 pirating that goes on its dumb that they still continue this practice but open your eyes, piracy is why its not launched alongside its console counterparts.

[RyuX19]

Or maybe they just didn't bug test the game properly? I'm getting real sick and tired of people making excuses for these developers. Things like this should have been fixed during the debugging phase.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

You can't fix a bug you didn't find.

[MostJadedGamer]

Nothing unusual about Ubisoft rushing out a buggy, unfinished AC game. AC2 was released with sequence 12, and 13 missing, and with the absolute worst AI of any game this entire generation.

Brotherhood was released with a game breaking endless loop bug in the tunnels(if you were unlucky enough to get caught in this you had no choice but to start a brand new game.

So its not suprising at all that AC3 is rushed out to meet a release date.

Since AC2 Ubisoft has shown that they will NOT delay a AC game even if its unifnished, and buggy. They would rather just release it in whatever condition its in.

This is the problem with having annual releases.

[maddfoxx]

And lets not forget how broken the first AC was. I love the series, but I can't understand how the first game got such high reviews.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

They have been working on Ac3 for 3 years now. Seriously, watch the AC3 IGN documentary.

ACB and ACR were started on in the midlife of Ac2 and ACB respectively.

AC2 had the worst Ai of this generation? Thats a strech... a real strech to say that.

Oh, and I got the tunnel glitch, and I fixed it by going to DNA and changing the sequence, and the game worked fine.

And don't delay games? Hello? Every PC version of AC has been delayed.

Seriously, most of your complaints are fluff... go play War Heroes Patton, the game you were blaming journalists for not writing about, even though journalists need information to write about...you know a studio must first convey info to the press inorder for the press to convey it to the public

@madfoxx

High reviews? Out of the main games, AC1 is the most panned

[BlaqMagiq24]

Three years is rushed? LOL! Almost every game released this gen has had bugs in it. Just because a game has bugs in it doesn't make it a rushed game. By your definition, Skyrim was a rushed game too and that was worked on for FIVE YEARS and had the most bugs I've ever seen in a game.

AC2 had the worst A.I.? I think you're referring to the first game. They were definitely competent and challenging enough in AC2 and was made better in Brotherhood and Revelations. Oh and as for Sequence 12 and 13 being cut out, they had nothing to do with the main story which is why they were cut out.

Seriously you're trying to make Ubisoft look bad here when you're only making yourself look bad.

[MattyG]

@maddfoxx It wasn't really broken, just repetitive and tedious. And review scores were mixed if I recall.

[rpd123]

The sequence 12 and 13 has nothing at all to do with bugs, that was so they could sell you DLC. Not saying it's any better but still. They've also been developing it for 3 years, only ACB and ACR were made in a year. Never had the tunnel thing happen to me in Brotherhood.

@maddfoxx

The reason it got such high reviews is because it was such an incredibly fresh game. Innovative storyline, unique gameplay, and great visuals are what got it such high reviews. And even then it's still not as good as the reviews the rest of the games got (except Rev, I think that may have done worse than AC1).

[GraveLord]

New engine = New Bugs
Hell even games running on older engines still get their fair share of bugs.(Call of Duty, I'm looking at you)

We are in serious need of new consoles. I hope Wii U sells really well so Microsoft and Sony hurry up and announce theirs.

[wastedcells]

Most open world games have their issues but its usually pretty acceptable considering the amount of things going on at any givin time. They will patch it anyway. Maybe even day one.

[showtimefolks]

I hope these issues are fixed soon hopefully on release but one thing I hate about this gen is that we have become the testers for these developers. They release a game it has bg than gets fixed how quit fixing the bg before hand? And please no excuses fom AC3 about 3 years development, I am not talking about UBI but gaming in general

[Amiroo]

the graphics looks cool, i like assassin's creed series but man there are lot's of bugs even with day 1 patch.

i remember when the game asked me to press LB to assassinate target, when i pressed it guess what's happed ? they jumped out of roof and assassinate the dog under them, lol. and target sees them and star firing at them. too bad you can not switch targets manually but i'm pretty sure the red coat man was selected and dogs can not highlighted as a target

[Blacktric]

"There are visible clipping issues, for example the lockpicks sometimes don't fit in the keyholes, enemies' bodies and weapons sometimes float in the air, and carts sometimes ignore horses "parked" on streets, "ghosting" through them, braids and ponytails also clip through faces"

Yep. This definitely shows that the game is a bit "ambitious" for current gen consoles and not how incompetent developers are. You AC fans and your biased BS never ceases to amaze me.

[BrianC6234]

It looks like the current gen consoles can't handle the game based on one review that wasn't even written in English? I wouldn't trust a review from Poland. Wait for the real reviews. I never trust anything that was translated. There's always too many errors in the translations. Is that even a good magazine or site? I never heard of it.

[Buff1044]

To those complaining about the one year cycle, this game has in development much longer, so calm down.

[DaThreats]

This is Kon's fault

[mafiahajeri]

Who is this "Kon" I keep hearing about? Sounds like a trouble maker...

[xYLeinen]

Probably a reference to the teddy bear named "Kon" in Bleach.

[MidnytRain]

He was permabanned off the front page. You can find him lurking in the forums...

[WetN00dle69]

Hey man, dont you be messing with Kon! Or he will send Chappy after you!

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I didn't realise how many AC games they've pumped out this gen... it's definatley up there high as far as milked games! maybe the quality would be better if they weren't pushed to make so many!

[lashes2ashes]

You do know ac3 has been in development for over 3 years right. There is like ten deferent teams of devs working on all ac games.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

so it's the 3rd person COD?

[Braid]

Please don't use COD and AC in the same sentence. AC games have some of the greatest characters, astonishing atmosphere and design based on actual historical places, and one of the best game stories ever told with an intellectual and philosophical basis. I'd buy AC every year with pleasure. And Brotherhood, which was completed in one year, is still the best AC game so your argument is already invalid.

[Shadonic]

The main AC team ( peeps who personally worked on as 1 and 2 have been working on this right after 2 ended) other sub team style workers have been working on the spin offs not really for money but for keeping it current and possibly to experiment with diffrent features that could be implemented into AC3 like multiplayer.

[mafiahajeri]

Thanks for reminding me about that FFed up movie Bronson... xD

Speaking about the brits they seem to be getting killed everywhere even in this thumbnail pic...

[taquito]

pc version should be amazing, the last few have looked beyond incredible on a gaming rig, and even the console versions look quite incredible for being on 8 year old hardware, granted, nothing close to the pc version, but impressive nontheless.

[Dovahkiin]

I really hope the PC version will have good textures. And graphics generally, looking forward to it.

[Conzul]

PC versions will have flawless fidelity, like usual :/
Assuming PC gamers spent over $1000 on their machines.

[jmc8888]

The previous versions were already good, great really. These ones should be incredibly great and with DX11 effects on a brand new engine.

Of course, we'll see, but what they always show in the commercials are the PC version.

Patches will address some of this, and a decent amount of them might just be issues with the low end textures the consoles use.

But overall, the good news is, he didn't find anything really serious.

Still hard to believe that only ~79,000 copies on the PC have been preordered versus ~565,000 for 360 and ~359,000 for PS3. Just amazing that 90 percent chose the weaker versions. (of course they'll still be good, not saying that, just saying there's a better option out there to play it, and many people no doubt have built decent rigs in the last 5 or so years that can display better graphics than the 360/ps3)....and the game is cheaper too!

[CrustifiedDibbs]

yep. just started playing revelations a couple of days ago. it looks amazing.

[pr0digyZA]

Don't worry its gonna be good, they said it uses DX11 and some PC only effects, better textures etc...

Heres a tweet from Ubisoft

http://i.imgur.com/ey5KR.pn...

@jmc8888
I think the delay has a part in it, I have had to use a lot of willpower to choose to wait when I could easily pick it up now.

[Eyesoftheraven]

More breaking news by way of N4G.

"Here! Here! Latest and greatest multi-million dollar video game has bugs and glitches."

"In other news, the vast majority of Playstation 3's are black."

[Hufandpuf]

Just because white PS3s are the minority doesn't mean they don't have rights!

[kesvalk]

don't forget the blue ones!

[Plagasx]

New engine, new problems...

[PygmelionHunter]

Not really, these problems have been around since AC1, at least on PS3.

[Heisenburger]

Can you read man?(just picking)

" New engine, new problems..."

Do you get it now? ;)

I won't insult you by spelling it out.

[PygmelionHunter]

@AndJusticeForAll

Your logic is flawed anyway, if anything it would be "new engine, old problems"

[Heisenburger]

If it's a NEW engine then they are NEW problems. Granted they are similar to the old problems on the old engine.

Lol

[lashes2ashes]

After reading the article it seems the problems are just the same ones that have always been there. I have experienced all of those issues with every ac game. I wish they were fixed but its the nature of the game. There is camera issues sadly still with most third person games.

[Shadonic]

Ive never experienced any of these problems on 360 at least except maybe for the " No i didnt wnat to do that clibming thing" and that only happend 2 times out of the entire game.

[Tdmd]

I don't think I can remember ever seeing clipping issues (specially as bad as hair clipping through people's faces!) with any of the other assassin's creed.
Being unable to move the camera with the right analog seems like innovation in the bug department as well.

[lashes2ashes]

On ps3 with the last assasins creed I could see clipping when wearing a couple outfits. When my sword was sheathed it clipped through the leg and the robe a lot. Pretty minor I will admit but still it was there. Also there was a couple cut scenes were camera and charicter models did the horrible clipping thing were charicters got stuck in the view point causing me to look through there bodies. The camera things they talked about do look really bad. But it's possible it was a one time only glitch. We shall see.

[Rupee]

I remember a few beard clipping issues in AC2 as well but it really didn't ruin the game or anything. I mean that guy was dead in a few minutes anyway so...

[Tdmd]

Actually you are right, there was a sword clipping trought his leg! I didn't remember that! I don't think is minor tough, every time I spot something like that I can't look at anything else! lol

[-Gespenst-]

Hmmm, sounds a little bit buggy, but no more than the previous games... The camera not working issue sounds new though, and pretty frustrating. The Hay Bale thing seems kind of dumb too, is that in previous games?

"The trees in the Frontier feel very artificial, the paths that the branches make poke in the eye more than the ones in the cities"

I don't understand this. ^^^ Is the person saying the trees crowd the screen and it's hard to see where you're going? Or can you actually get poked in the eye by branches when freerunning through trees in this game?

[Heisenburger]

I think that they are saying that the paths are very clear. That they are glaringly obvious. As opposed to having to use instincts or seek out limbs to jump to.

It just wasn't articulated very clearly.

[jd666]

My copy was despatched today so I should be playing this tomorrow or Monday!

[ajax17]

I hope during the next generation of consoles developers stop with the graphical pissing contest, and focus more on gameplay & enemy A.I.

[jd666]

I haven't played a perfect game free from any issues yet and doubt I ever will so these things don't concern me at all!!

[optimus]

I feel these complaints are very minor, as i remember some of these glitches in assassins creed 2... I got the game today (sitting in my car)...i'll know tonight just how bad these "issues" really are.

[GraySnake]

Too bad the author of the original article really likes the game and says its a nice refresh for the series and such.

And for the people that are going "wha wha they should have fixed this stuff by now." What's Bethesda's excuse? Tryarch? Dice? Sometimes bugs just pop up even after a couple months of clear development. The Game went gold like what, three weeks ago? If issues are bad there will be a day one patch or a patch within the week to fix it.

Also about the " Artifical Tree Paths "
You could clearly tell what it was like in the gameplay demos, so I dont see why its a huge problem.

EDIT
MR.Shade on the ubi forums has said that the patch has been released. Patch Notes being released shortly

[Tdmd]

"What's Bethesda's excuse? Tryarch? Dice?"

What is this, now one error justify another? That's really smart thinking.
And who brought them to an Assassin's Creed discussion, anyway?!

[MasterD919]

I don't really care what a Polish gaming magazine says frankly...not trying to sound like an ignoramus here but this game WILL deliver no matter what slight issues are present.

No game is perfect...

[BrianC6234]

I don't trust them either. At least wait for real reviews by sites we know. I see way too many crappy reviews from that part of the world and you can't trust translations.

[josephayal]

I want to cancel my preorder, ... I dont want to spend my money for something useless

[Nunchez]

Useless? I highly doubt it.

[optimus]

Well, after playing it for about an hour and a half i noticed some clipping as described along with weapons suspended in mid air...nothing to make me say the game is unplayable...as for the game itself??...

SPOILER FREE impression so far...

The game IS as pretty as it looks in the videos we've seen...but graphics alone doesn't make a game...for me at least...the game does a fine job of recapping events by the previous leading characters, but it is a bit slow in getting you into the action right away...

one thing that i'm finding a bit annoying is that it uses this white flash to cut in and out of cutscenes and gameplay. Wouldn't bother me as much if it wasn't happening every few minutes...there are parts that make you wonder why didn't they just leave it as part of the cutscene? Example: cutscene starts-flash- you control character, take 5 steps,-flash- another cutscene...hopefully, the frequency of this will decrease as i progress further into the game but i doubt it since it seems it's prevalent to telling the story... We'll see...

P.s.
I checked the leaderboards to see how many people got the game early and i'm ranked somewhere in the 3,000's. With the top ranks logging around 10hrs so far.

[mochachino]

Some people should fall off roofs to their deaths while chasing you, running across rooftops would be dangerous.

[BrianC6234]

That's what I was thinking too. Maybe that's built into the AI.

[TukkerIntensity]

AC games are always a little buggy - but never wrecks the game really. Standard.

[Braid]

It's a good looking open-world game with advanced technology which is supposed to run on current-gen consoles that have limited RAM, so yeah, expect some graphical glitches here and there. Control and gameplay issues however, are inexcusable and need to be fixed as soon as possible -if there's any- with a future patch.

[Vortex3D]

Why play now? The game doesn't change if you wait for a few months and hopefully most of the bugs are fixed by then.

If you can't wait, enjoy the bugs.

Remember, game developers and publishers will continue to ship buggy games because gamers refused to wait. Gamers love to say can't wait. And can't wait means here's the rushed game and enjoy all the bugs.

[Braid]

I completely agree, but your choice of person to reply couldn't have been more wrong- I'm waiting for the PC version which is literally the safe ground. :) Have been doing that since AC1, and didn't have any mentionable issues with AC games. They looked and worked flawlessly.

[Vortex3D]

I always find it amusing when the actual game is out and it's never like the hype. If you are a clever shopper, doesn't that along tells you to wait than day 1 order?

Those games love to play with bugs so that they can start playing on day 1 or pre-release time. And then complain about the bugs. If you choose to start playing new games that early, then having bugs are expected to be part of the experience.

I'll play AC3 after it has been out for a few months. Why not? The game is still the same and hopefully less buggy after a few patches. And the price probably has dropped by then. There is nothing in the game that says only playable on day 1.

I'm just glad that those who must play now on day 1 gets to deal with the bugs so that I don't need do. Enjoy the buggy game.

[MxRBrobaFett]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[violents]

It actually makes sense to have a day one patch now that I think about it. You fix as much as you can while debugging, send out to be certified and mass produced, wait for reviews to come in to see what you missed, try to fix it before retail release= day 1 patch.

I'm not sure but it's at least an optimistic theory. I'm tired of hatin'

[Donnywho]

I love Assassin's Creed but every game in the franchise has had game crashing glitches resulting from specific actions.

[Tzuno]

I saw it today on my friend house on a modded 360. The game has graphical issues and is not a "wow" in therms of graphics as for the game itself looks promising regarding the story.

[ginsunuva]

I was debating pc or ps3
Now I'm thinking pc