Next-gen projects are testing dev resources, Sony exec admits

But PlayStation's Fergal Gara says group is 'nowhere close to giving up on PS3'

The managing director of PlayStation UK has admitted that work underway on next generation games is challenging the group's studio resources as it tries to create content for Vita and PS3 as well.
"When you look at the UK market, it's easy to say that current consoles are fading. But if you look at PS3, it's holding up a lot better than others, so it warrants support. But if you look at continental Europe, PS3 hasn't even peaked yet. Why would you run away from a console business when you're not even top of the hill? We're certainly not going to run away from it."

[Kenjifirera]

Yeah Sony really needs to focus on the ps4 and ps vita, that way developers don't suffer and the systems can compete even better than when the ps3 first came out. Plus a strong line up of AAA games would be most welcomed. :)

[jimbobwahey]

Developers have already suffered unfortunately. I find it disappointing that Sony is stating that next-gen projects are testing their resources, but then we found out a little while ago that they shut down Studio Liverpool who were busy working on a Wipeout game for the PS4 launch. It had apparently been in development for over 12 months already.

Obviously I can only speak for myself here, but as somebody who really loves Wipeout HD it's really frustrating to see them say that. I'd have been over the moon if the PS4 rolled out with a Wipeout game at launch, and now that probably won't happen.

[solidt12]

If they worked on the game that long I am sure another studio will complete it and it will still come out. But it is a shame they closed the studio down.

[BitbyDeath]

Here you go -

http://n4g.com/news/1083600...

Staff got moved to Evo Studios.
Work will continue there so we should hopefully get both a new Wipeout and Motorstorm at or around launch.

[Blastoise]

I think its awesome that Sony are still working on the PS3. Its been around for a long time and the fact that it still has a good handful of games that can truly make me excited without the constant chorus of "Bring on next gen" is impressive. The best thing about Sony is exactly that, they provide the games. Sure it sometimes takes them a while but look at the PS3 now compared to what it was back in 2006.
It's a shame a certain other gaming company seems to be more or less giving up on games and focusing on the casual market that Nintendo already claimed a long time ago. Instead of going out on a high note.

Anyway, even with the awesome line-up of PS3 games still to come these are exciting times to be a gamer. With the Wii U releasing soon (and a promise on third-party support and hardcore games) and the eventual revealing of the PS4 and Next Xbox these next few years should be very interesting indeed.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Well said Blastoise, I think Sony's competition should take note about how to still keep the core gamer happy even at the end of a consoles lifespan.

[jimbobwahey]

@BitbyDeath

Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that before. Unfortunately however the story has been updated with information that apparently Evolution Studios hasn't been handed the IP after all.

It seems to be anyone's guess what will happen with the Wipeout series now, but it would be a tragedy if it died. I vastly prefer it to Motorstorm myself.

[wastedcells]

Thanks Bitbydeath. Makes a lot of sense to blend those developers together. The results will hopefully be a better wipeout and motor storm.

[JAMurida]

I still feel bad about the lose of Zipper Interactive. IMO, that company was the best when it came to making exclusive shooters on PS3, that also was an in-house first party studio of Sony's as well. A PS4 MAG 2 would of been amazing just thinking of the potential... I remember listen to the Zipcast (Zipper Interactive podcast) where they talked so much about the many ideas they had for MAG 2 and what not... god it's such a shame to see that talent gone. A dev company I grew up loving since I was a young teen.

Oh well though, all good things come to an end, here's to the future!

[iamnsuperman]

The problem is not enough people really like/ are bothered about Wipeout. It is a shame but I tihnk Sony made a good decision to stop work on it. It may be a waste of money with 12 months down the line (probably should have been cancelled earlier) but they took that money to not spend any more money on it (got to remember advertising cost quite a lot to a games development)

With every studio getting shut down it is all about how much potential profit they can make. It is the same with Zipper. Zipper created a ok game but it wasn't Socom nor was it really good compared to other games of that type.

[Awesome_Gamer]

Next-Gen Console will be released in 2014. It's a fact.

[MrChow666]

oh sh@t I didnt know about that, SAD!

[andibandit]

@BitbyDeath

the article you referred to has been updated since you read it (LOOOOL), let me pass this on from the article:

"UPDATE 1: In the moments since publication MCV has been contacted by two sources who claim that Evolution is not the new WipEout developer. We will await an official confirmation.

UPDATE 2: Sony has responded with "no comment".
"

Also i see no mention that workers had been transferred from one company to the other.

[Relientk77]

Can't wait for the PS4 reveal, definitely looking forward to it

[metroid32]

Sony are boring i could predict 10 games that will be on ps4 and they will be only a little better than their counter parts on ps3 ????? who cares for God Of War 4 and 5 and GT5/6 who cares honestly.

[bloodybutcher]

i do. isn't your hate overdone just a little? or are you just trying to convince yourself that whichever console you've chosen,it wasn't a mistake? whatever people choose,be it pc,ps3,x360,wii or old cellphone with Snake game only- it is their choice.but writing things like "sony is doomed" in capslock and without interpunction is not selling your point of view very well.

[A-Glorious-Dawn]

Don't buy one then and don't look at Sony news?

seriously I am endlessly confused by people like you.

[Just_The_Truth]

If you've ever played GOW or GT you'd understand the Appel. Sony is always bring out new IPs like the Last of Us for example IMO they aren't boring at all. Look at N they've used the same characters since I can remember and Microsoft relies on Halo, Gears and Fable. If you consider Sony boring what do you think about the other companies?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

lol! It's funny when trolls just give up trying

[profgerbik]

PS4 is going to be beast.

[profgerbik]

Guessing Wii U fans didn't enjoy that comment? Lol.. Have fun with it while it lasts.. That is all I will say.

[LX-General-Kaos]

But the developers enjoyed it. That's all I will say.

[vallencer]

I'm not sure why you would bring Wii U anywhere in this?? Just because people disagreed with him?? It could be people who are Wii U fans or it could be people who are 360 fans or hell it could be people who just straight up disagree. Stop trolling.

[Kurt Russell]

That or people disagreed with you because the fucking thing doesn't exist?

[M-M]

Is your Dreamcast enjoying that Wii stand?

[metroid32]

It wont be because even sony know that when a DX11 capable console in the wiiu has an install base of 25 million by the time ps4 hits if they were to put too much power in the ps4 it would only turn developers away as the wiiu has proper next gen hardware Shader model 5.0 compared to 3.0 on ps3/DX11/opengl4.1 compared to dx9 on ps3 obviously were talking comparable as DX in microsofts did you know the 360 was meant to be called the Directxbox,anyway in terms of graphics the wiiu is the best you will see 1080p with a gpgpu that can basically handle the newest tech out there makes making your console more powerful not worth it as graphics will be all the same ?????? Wishful thinking is what your doing,Look no 1 wants to develop on vita as its only got 2 million worldwide sales and if sony make a DX12 comparable console it will cost alot and the difference in dx11/dx12 is minimal at best and if ps4 was to sell the same as vita its curtains for Sony.

Oh 1 of the most talented poeple at Naughty dog is at Retro studios now i think retro studios will be the best 2nd party studio next gen :)

[SkullBlade169]

DX11 is null. It's a console that doesn't run Windows at all. Even if it has a DirectX 11 Capable GPU, it won't be able to use it. :P

It will have to use OpenGL or some other system...

[dafegamer]

gosh stop commenting im losing brain cells

[A-Glorious-Dawn]

I'm pretty sure that you don't actually know what DX11 does...

[Alcohog]

We can only pray that this is a joke post.

[tee_bag242]

I'm not meant to say this but...
You need a good b!tch slap.
Firstly, you have no idea what your talking about. Secondly,you make no sense by not using punctuation. Thirdly, see my first point..

I thought you were joking but I looked at your other posts and...wow

[BitbyDeath]

Lookin forward to it's release next year.

[Persistantthug]

2012 is virtually over and 2013 is almost here.

holiday 2014 is a possibility though.

[stevenhiggster]

I'm gonna say E3 2013 reveal, on sale March 2014.

[BitbyDeath]

Reports back in May say it is -

http://au.gamespot.com/news...

[starchild]

That's f'en pathetic if you are right. The consoles are already ancient. If they don't come out by 2013 at the latest then that would be ridiculous. We needed new consoles this year (2012), so 2013 is already pushing it.

I think I might just stick to PC and skip consoles altogether.

[Bigpappy]

I think we will see Xbox720 before E3 and PS4 by E3. Both release fall 2013.

[A-Glorious-Dawn]

@starchild

I see enough good games coming in 2013 to make me happy with my current set up for that year.

If we get a teaser it'd be nice, but a 2014 release is very reasonable considering.

[CRASHBASHUK]

so E3 or gamescom or TGS thoes are the big ones to keep an eye on
BUT what game confernce did ps vita get reviled? i understnad it wasant at any of the big 3 only given the name of vita at E3 2011

[fabod86]

Sony made a specific conference in Japan for the reveal... who knows, it could happen for the PS4 reveal too with a more detailed show at E3. :)

[Eldyraen]

Think I agree with bigpappy about reveals.

E3 naturally is the 'big' show but the new Xbox in particular will likely be announced and/or shown earlier in the year, IMO. February (CES as Microsoft has been making Xbox more and more of a multimedia device as well a good time to show off integration with Surface and Windows 8) or March (GDC as first big Game convention of the year) seems likely to me as it could begin the "hype train" that Microsoft likes to go for preE3 with possible '13 release date (rumor but seems likely as they have no real exclusives announced after Gears's Judgement that I can think of.

PS4 (at least ps3) seems more game centric still so GDC or E3 (which would steal some of next xbox's thunder 'if' announced earlier) seems a better fit. TGS is huge but the fact is it isn't as necessary as a bigger US reveal since Sony already has much more Asian support compared to Xbox, which is its most direct competition.

I expect they'll both at the very least finally be announced by or at E3 and one will be shown (Xbox seems most likely to be released next year if not both--PS3 still has game lineup to compete at least). Xbox simply has just about nothing announced past Spring though, with exception of multiplatform, so seems that could be why they are keeping quite for next year.

Granted only assumptions as well but seems plausible to me.

[wastedcells]

Those are only the Sony titles but the only one I see coming out early 2013 is GOW because it has a release date already. Beyond will be spring/summer (like infamous 1 & 2 was) and last of us in the fall for Xmas hype.

[wastedcells]

I would love to see a ps4 next year but it won't happen. Look at all the AAA games coming out in 2013 already. You have a ton of games with release dates for early 2013 and then a bunch of games without dates yet like GTA, last of us, beyond, ff versus, last guardian and so on. Can't see them dropping a new console with all those games coming out plus a ps3 price drop.

[BitbyDeath]

FYI, Don't know about The Last Guardian but otherwise Sony's big games are all slated for early 2013.

Last of Us - Early 2013 (No month yet)
http://www.newgamernation.c...

Beyond - February 2013
http://www.destructoid.com/...

GoW Ascension - March 2013
http://blog.eu.playstation....

GTA5 i suspect will be on nextgen consoles.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Usually the greatest year is the last... Look at PS2

[vallencer]

It won't be next year. No system is announced and then released the same year. They have to garner hype for it and get people excited and also allow companies to make games for it.

[green]

Your wrong. Xbox 360 was unveiled a week before e3 2005 via a special MTV show and was released November of the same year to the public.

[konnerbllb]

Xbox 360 was announced in May 2005 on MTV and then released in November 2005. They can certainly release the same year as the announcement. It helps reduce the amount of lossed sales of the current generation. Apple does the same thing.

[M-M]

I'm pretty sure it's coming out tomorrow.

[raytraceme]

It sounds like sony is really going to rely on 1st party again next gen :D Hopefully MS can do the same so I am inclined to buy more than one console next gen :D

[srcBFMVBMTH]

Agreed, Sony's PS4 launch lineup is definitely going to be amazing. Considering the amount of quality new IP's they are creating even to this day. Can't wait to see what new IP's their 1st party devs are cooking up for next gen. :D

"Hopefully MS can do the same so I am inclined to buy more than one console next gen :D"

Considering Microsoft's focus on Kinect these days and the fact that the majority of their studios work on Kinect titles. I'm not so sure yet if I can be excited about their launch line up just yet. :/

I myself am no fan of motion gaming but at least their launch line up will most likely be great for Kinect fans though!

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Sony needs to make a AAA rpg so they won't need bethesda any more.

Also I was on gaikai and they seem they want too make playstation more that a box but more as a global ecosystem.

"Why did Sony Computer Entertainment purchase Gaikai?
Gaikai has developed the highest quality, fastest interactive cloud-streaming platform in the world—a platform capable of delivering games and other interactive content instantly to consumers via the Internet. By harnessing the power of the cloud, and the strength of our engineering talent, Gaikai will help SCE grow their ecosystem, empower developers with new capabilities, dramatically improve the reach of various content and bring breathtaking new entertainment experiences to end-users around the world."
http://www.gaikai.com/qa

I think they want to take over gaming this time around.

[Ck1x]

Here's where alot of you aren't thinking straight about PS4's launch. It will probably take developers a good 2yrs to have launch line up games and Sony's most important studios are still heavily working on AAA PS3 titles. So how does anyone on here realistically think that the PS4 will launch in 2013 with a great line up of games?

[srcBFMVBMTH]

@Ck1x

"Sony's most important studios are still heavily working on AAA PS3 titles."

You got Naughty Dog team # 2 (Not the team working on The Last Of Us), Guerilla Games, Sony Santa Monica team # 2 (Not the team working on God of War Ascension), Polyphony Digital, Sony Bend Studios, and Evolution Studios rumored to be working on next gen. And you also still have LightBoxInteractive and Eat Sleep Play who still have a contract for making exclusive games on PS platforms.

Naughty Dog - New IP or Uncharted 4
Guerrilla Games - New IP and/or Killzone 4
Sony Santa Monica - New IP
Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo 6
Sony Bend - New IP or Syphon Filter 4
Evolution Studios - New Wipeout or Motorstorm
LightBoxInteractive - New IP or Warhawk 2
Eat Sleep Play - New IP or Twisted Metal 2

Not saying ALL of them will happen but I'm pretty confident in saying that the majority will.

[greenpowerz]

I just hope MSFT is smart about it and won't pump out average games after buying studios just to have them close with canceled games.

[Imalwaysright]

And yet Sony offers much more games than MS and most important of all they offer variety. They may not cater to you but one could easily say the same about 360 exclusives. No one will say however that MS offers variety. Besides dont act as if MS didnt close any studios this gen and if you ask me, some of their studios would be better off by being closed down (looking at you Rare). Bottom line is Sony offers full fledged games and MS offers timed exclusive DLC. Even if i considered PS3 exclusives to be average i would take them over timed exclusive DLC any day of the week.

BTW I consider 99.5% of games released for kinect straight up garbage. Average > garbage.

[Lvl_up_gamer]

@ Imalwaysright

It doesn't matter if you think Kinect is garbage, kinect games are still exclusives. I disagree with you that Sony offers more games. Just because you don't like kinect or its games doesn't mean they don't count as exclusives. You just told green powers that even if those ps games don't matter to him they are still relevant and then you go on and choose to discredit kinect and its games? That is extreme hypocrisy right there. Then you say average is garbage but come down on greenpowerz because he says to him Sony exclusives are average games that don't sell.

You share the same irrational point of view but you attack greenpowerz because you dont like that he singled out the ps3 and Sony.

MS game studios may not be releasing as much variety "core" game wise, but the 360 still has just as much variety as the ps3. Who cares who makes the game or who owns what studio, bottom line is that it's still made by someone and is still a game on the system.

[Imalwaysright]

Huh? You say that MS doesnt offer much variety but end up by saying that it does?!? Wich one is it? Cant have both!

I didnt say that kinect doesnt add to the 360 variety. Even with kinect PS3 still offers more variety. I was saying that i rather have full fledged average games than garbage kinect games and timed exclusive dlc. Green was trolling and i trolled back :)

[Lvl_up_gamer]

@ Imalwaysright

"Huh? You say that MS doesnt offer much variety but end up by saying that it does?!? Wich one is it? Cant have both!"

You are right...that is why I said:

"MS game studios may not be releasing as much variety "core" game wise,"

Notice I even had quotations around the "CORE" word. Not sure how you missed that.

Am I going to fast for you?

Please try and keep up.

I disagree with you. The PS3 does NOT offer more variety. The ONLY type of IP I would say that is on the PS3 that is not on the 360 would be the LBP platformer IP.

Other than that, there is nothing on the PS3 that isn't on the 360. However, Kinect allows for COMPLETE controllerless experiences. Is there any game on the PS3 like:

The Gunstringer
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Steel Battalion
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Kinectimals
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I could go on but bottom line is that Kinect helps to create different types of games with new ways to experience them without the need of a controller. Kinect opens the doors for variety, however right now we are mainly only seeing that variety on a casual perspective at the moment.

You say there is more Variety on the PS3 yet both consoles have RTS game, FPS games, TPS games, Action Adventure games, Thriller/Horror games etc.

I don't see how you can say there is more "variety" when both systems consist of pretty much the same type of games?

Or maybe you were referring to more IP's available within a certain genre like FPS or RTS?

I would also argue that there are MORE games available on the 360 in ANY particular single genre.

FPS - 360
Racing Sim - 360
TPS - 360
Action/adventure - 360
Platformer - 360 (Mainly due to XBL)
RTS - 360

This is mainly due to the 1 year head start, MS focusing on a small selection of their top selling IP's like Forza and Halo as well as 3rd party partnerships such as EPIC GAMES.

Using the word "variety" is a cop out term only used by a certain group of people on this site.

Why don't you elaborate EXACTLY what you mean by "variety" and give some examples of games on the PS3 that are completely different then what can be found on the 360.

[Imalwaysright]

If YOU say that there is no variety in hardcore games then it means that the 360 is lacking variety in that department. Like i said you cant have both ways and you proved my point. Thank you very much.

3 kinect games with one of them looking like a poor man Ratchet on rails? Really? Where is Microsoft Yakuza, Motorstorm, Starhawk, Twisted Metal, MLB, Heavy Rain, Sly, GoW, Siren games, TLG... No wonder you say MS lacks variety on the hardcore department. Its true.

Even though we're talking about MS and Sony studios, you start talking about multiplatforms as way to say that you can find the sames experiences Sony offers, on the 360. We're talking about exclusives here and what Sony and Microsoft are offering to their fanbase. Sony does offer more variety than MS. There is no denying that and that was my point all along.

Then i dont know why, you proceed to the number of games there are in each genre. We're talking about diversity of genres and experiences. Not sure how the 360 having more 5 or 20 FPS than the PS3 will help your case here.

BTW on that steel batallion vid the guy was playing with a controller... "COMPLETE controllerless experiences". Just wanted to point that out.

[nevin1]

"Why would you run away from a console business when you're not even top of the hill?"

lol, not sure what to say about this statement. On one hand you give sony credit for not giving up as I think the goal to atleast surpassed the 360 in total sales or PS3 reach the 100 million sales mark.

But on the other hand, you want to give your rivals a big lead start again.

[Knushwood Butt]

What is Sucker Punch working on at the moment? Maybe a nex gen title?

[Ryo-Hazuki]

Naught Dog team #2, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games just to name a few

[Nac]

Also, SSM has two teams apparently as well.

Plus Ready at Dawn.

[srcBFMVBMTH]

Sucker Punch are confirmed to be working on a new PS3 game. It was discovered after the release or Infamous 2 that it was going to be a brand new AAA title. It's not known if it's going to be Infamous 3 or an entirely new IP.

I wouldn't mind if it was either or though! lol

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[Knushwood Butt]

Thanks for the link.

[theunleashed64]

i've been checking their job applications and stuff. i atleast know they've got some former arenanet people and they supposedly got one of irrational games devs.

[josephayal]

We going to be happy with the PS4 out, 4K+ Graphics, Free Online, 8 GIGA RAM, GeForce GTX 660 Ti... OMG i can't wait

[Eldyraen]

Disagreed based on speculation--although some it might be true or at least close. It's probably viable anyways depending on release date. Still, I'll agree that when I do pick up a PS4 it should be a blast (for exclusives anyways as I have a PC better already).

[NoFanboyRequired]

4k movies, yeah. But 4k games? You're dreaming, buddy.
Those specs right there would make it 600 dollars alone. Add in a cpu and whatever else, it would be a lot more...

[RevXM]

I wouldnt say that, but its definitively very dependant on WHEN.

In 2014/2015 it should be no prob to have a few AAA style 4K games. Most likely one or VERY unlikely but possible two (sli/crossfire) high end cards if one isnt cutting it, blu-ray and a new PowerPC cpu and proper amounts of ram will make it very possible.

You might think such spec are unrealistic, but I don't and just let my explain why.
The ps3 is very real isnt it (360? vita?)? And It was rather High end at its time, just like the 360. Only it has more exotic hardware and more features. A standalone Blu-ray player at the time was much more expensive than the ps3, and the cell was pretty experimental and high end. And it wasn't only high end, but it had a lot of/more research and developement behind it.

Exotic and or high end hardware is possible with a decent long term plan of selling and producing the same hardware/system albeit with modifications over time (such as die size, and cosmetic changes), royalty from developers/publishers, services, ads, pr and interest and so on.
We are in an economic downhill they say, but Sony recently released the Vita wich is a beast that is certainly a great bang for its price compared to other handheld gaming systems and smartphones. Sony's recent words dont make me believe Ps4 will be any less beast than the Vita wich sadly doesnt seem to be selling fast enough these days. Just look up some recent sony quotes regarding Ps4 and the future. Andrew house and Jack Tretton have said some positive things Imo.

BUT yeah I think that the success of the Ultra HD/4K screens and general progress in game/world detail etc more than anything else is what will determine wether or not the ps4 will run AAA games natively in 4K. All I know is not all games will, because it is up to the developers what resolution their game will render at.

Thats what I got now. I'd appreaciate positive or constructive feedback.

[ChickeyCantor]

4k+ resolution? Why do people think "Full HD's" aka 1080p limited tv's won't be relevant anymore?

4k+ tv's will be a niche and not even adopted by tv providers. Not in a long run. Especially because of the bandwidth. A lot of people still need to get on the HD tv wagon.

Stop being delusional. 1080p is a great resolution.

[cj1pate101]

You really think the ps4 will do 4k? 8 gigs of ram are you kidding me? The most they will put is 4. The geforce gtx? uhh first off ps3 will be using an amd chipset. You sir are a fan boy.

[telekineticmantis]

...

[Nac]

Getting hyped. Bring on dat next-gen Drake!!!

[GalacticEmpire]

What's interesting about this is that it would seem Sony are confirming twin versions of PS4 games with PS Vita games. Nobody can really complain Sony aren't supporting the Vita.

[DivineAssault]

The ultimate nx gen system is in the works.. cant wait to see it

[SpinalRemains138]

Bring the new consoles in!

If the consumer has a choice of sticking with existing hardware or upgrading, why the hell would we want to stay with old tech?

Sure the PS3 and 360 are great, but they're long in the digital tooth. New hardware, to me anyway, is always a welcomed YES.

Although I do hope SONY eats their lunch and scrap the Cell. Having easier development would be a much needed change. SONY exclusives are great and all, but I'd rather have a huge selection to choose from. That and the multi plats wouldnt suffer most of the time because of it.

[TheMailman]

Fuc.... Multiplats!

[Pintheshadows]

I hope to see Sony go for some established and some brand new IP's for the PS4 release if they can. An FPS, RPG, TPS, Racer, Sandbox, Platformer and a game in the God of War mould would be nice.

Say, in order of above, KZ4, a new RPG IP (W or J), Uncharted 4/Syphon Filter/Eight Days, Motorstorm or GT6, a new IP from Sucker Punch or The Getaway 3, Something new and different from Media Molecule, and a new IP from SSM.

[remanutd55]

i really like your ideal ps4 launch line up, i would add Heavenly Sword 2 to that list as well.

[Pintheshadows]

I think it's important that they have something for everyone. You don't want, say, 3 racing games and 3 FPS games. It also means that if they picked carefully they'd have the same variety of games for the second wave.

For example, if Uncharted 4 launches with the console then Eight Days or Syphon Filter should be saved for later. You don't want them launching on top of each other.

I also think to have a good start they need a higher number of titles overall. I only had Resistance and Motorstorm for a very long time on PS3. They need to show that the PS4 will be worth the investment off the bat. I for one would willingly drop a grand to get the console and all the titles I listed. And before anyone says i'm crazy, that's 250 quid put by for 4 months.

And Heavenly Sword 2 is the ideal title to fit the God of War mould. Good call.

Also, bear in mind the third party titles that will hopefully launch with the console.

[remanutd55]

I think it would be better if we get Motorstorm Worldwide Tour at launch and Gran Turismo 6 at least with 1 or 2 years into the ps4 lifecycle.

[dafegamer]

a gravity rush hd spin off game would be nice too and a rpg hack and slash game(keichiro toyama, creator of gravity rush has admitted that he would like to create a new rpg and hack slash game. Seriouisly Sony support this man.)
Note: how about this Kats Story excluive to vita and a Raven spinoff on ps4

[FinalomegaS]

i want to see the controller. or input device.

[sdplisken]

please sony make demon's souls 2 and MGS5 ps4 launch titles

[MultiConsoleGamer]

He's basically admitting that either the PS4 is a long way off or that it doesn't exist.

We've already heard rumors claiming there are no PS4 dev kits. So it looks like that rumor may now be confirmed. It also seems like Sony is going to stick with the PS3 for a very long time.

I kinda got that feeling when I saw the PS3 super slim.

[zero_cool]

Epic Awesomeness!

Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

[Unlimax]

Can't Freaking wait to hear more news about this .

I still Need a Parasite eve 3 or Dino crisis 4 on the PS3 Before this gen ends !!

[Straightupbeastly]

Sony is bat shit scared of going into next gen because they know if they screw up they're done. They'd rather keep milking this gen because its far safer for them. They won't move into next gen until they're forced

[yavorsv]

I think you are right. They won't and wouldn't go with a $600 console again. Either they are going to wait couple more years to make more profit of the ps3 and vita or they are going to release console closer to what the Wii U is ...at lease as a price point. I'm almost sure M$ is going the same route. Both companies are going to follow Nintendo from the start this time, not trying to copy it's features mid-gen. This is if the Wii U sells a lot.
Maybe $ony learned that power is not everything. PS3 is just more powerful PS2 with new disk format. Old formula.No innovation whatsoever.They are not devoted to the hardcore fanboys alone. They tried pleasing the casuals as well but failed. M$ failed too, but they abandoned the core gamers almost completely. I see them going casual with their next console.
We'll see if Nintendo can deliver for both groups of gamers. I believe they will. ;)

[Frankfurt]

Sony can't even make Vita games that will sell (Uncharted didn't, but then again, it barely sells on PS3, too - 700K in a month is terrible for what's supposed to be an "AAA" series).

[Eldyraen]

Maybe its just me, but that entire post just yells 'flamebait' as it has both no relevance to the topic at hand and sales do not make a 'AAA' game or franchise. A blockbuster game, yes, but AAA no way.

Its the same with blockbuster movies--they may sell the tickets but in the long run most are long forgotten when you ask someone 'what's your favorite film?'.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Can you please specify "700k in a month in the U.S." Not everyone on this site is from the U.S. so people aren't going to know you mean USA only when just throw a sales figure and as such will assume you mean worldwide.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Sony I think will shock a lot of people!

Also Sony has always been the best at still supporting their Last Gen consoles when compared to the competition!

[Pintheshadows]

Sony does well when it comes to bringing its established consoles to less obvious parts of the world for a cheap price. Part of the reason the PS2 kept on selling long after the PS3 had released.

[Cam977]

As usual, it will be amazing.

[Platinum_k]

I want to see concepts and specs of the Playstation 4 already please =)

[taquito]

hoping ps4 will support 1080p with 4x-8x aa AA in all games mandatory, i love my ps3 and 360, but the jaggies and low res are nauseating...

any anyone who thinks games will be 4K res, lol....

NEVER
GOING
TO HAPPEN.

I'll be more than happy with slightly higher than uncharted 2 level graphics in 1080p @ 60 frames with zero jaggies

[Smashbro29]

1080p at 60FPS should be the new gold standard for next gen. No more of this 30fps nonsense!

[DiRtY]

Just as I said in the "why the PS4 will fail" article: Could we please wait till we know anything about it before we praise it?

[Chaostar]

Or doom it.

[PS4OUR]

I'd say that creating a games console that is easy to develop for would be the step in the right direction. They managed that with Vita. Now its upto making sure the PS4 follows the Vita's trend.
I will probably get disagree's for my comment but im not too fussed about it. Lord knows you get disagree's if you say the sky is blue.

[metal_dub]

You have to be FUCKING stupid to think that one of the main two console makers in the indestry aren't going to destribute a new console in the next year. And yet it's still funny to me that people whom call themselves "Real Gamers" are waiting on hardware thats already obsolete. FUCKKKKKK! I still have my NES that my parents bought back in the day on my 4th birthday. you've never played a challenging game until you only have three lives

[dafegamer]

Imagine a new AAA 3D Platfomer from Media molecule for ps4
*Raging Boner*

[iHeartHelloKitty]

Don't worry If Epic doesn't leave MS side they still got bungie I mean 343 studios...Can't wait for Gears of War 5 and 6 Halo 5 and 6. They will kill Sony exclusives for PS4...just kidding!

[cj1pate101]

Or you can stop beign a console kiddie and build a pc rig. Imagine just for a sec what halo 4 would look like with dx11 and tessellation. Add in all the other countless features we pc player shave and bam you have a hit. You sir tell me why it would matter if halo 4 cam pc. Would it really hurt the xbox sales when us pc players already know xbox is wack?

[cj1pate101]

When your working with 6 year old arthetecture what are you gonna do? keep pushing 512 megs of ram o cmon. Anough with this stupid arguement that sony hold some ring of the gos within it. Let me tell you something the cell possessor was the biggest flop I have ever owned. Pleas epeople I dare you name one other gaming computer that uses a cell processor. I dont know of any that do kiddos.

[wishingW3L]

I clicked agree because your first sentence it's true but your reasoning about the Cell is broken. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about....

The Cell is not a general purpose CPU so it can't work on the PC because it only has one PPU. If you put a Cell on a PC it would be like having a single core CPU doing all the work because you have to program each SPE individually from scratch and PC games aren't optimized to make much use of the CPU. That's why we have implementations like the GPGPU.

PC gamers tend to buy weak CPU but powerful GPUs so PC developers optimize their games to make use of the GPU alone and use GPGPU implementation to make up for the weak CPU.

Cell works on the PS3 and on Super-computers because those are closed environments. PS3 uses special coding for their games (just like every console BTW, that's why we still get good looking games on such ancient hardware) and Super-computers have special software to make use of the SPEs for calculations. Right now every Super-computer in the world uses a CPU based on the Cell if you didn't know.

I hope you have learned something.

[Tzuno]

They will offer more power the rest is up to developers and their graphic engine.

[wishingW3L]

that's what I always say. The ones that should innovate are the developer not the hardware manufacturer. Sony doesn't even make games, they just buy Studios and give them a budget to make them. Kutaragi is the one that made the PS1, PS2 and PS3 but he is no game developer so he doesn't know what is good for games.

While Nintendo make consoles and games too. Miyamoto is a game developer and he always been present and the first to give ideas when creating new consoles. His experience as a game developer allows him to have a better understanding to what would work better for games (at least for his games). And that's why Sony is now doing this: can't find the article but I remember Sony saying that their first party would have some input while developing their next gen console.

edit: found it!

http://www.edge-online.com/...

[iHeartHelloKitty]

Originality vs Milk. Sony hurts themselves for trying new IPs while Microsoft announces their new app. MS has nothing that's why they sell. If a store had one drink...and your thirsty....

[Belking]

MS has done well this gen no matter how much you and others try to discredit them. They are making money which is more than others can say right now.

[Cam977]

Come on Sony, you can ace the ps4!