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Replay – Banjo Kazooie

Game Informer - This week, a heated argument breaks out between the GI crew regarding this Rare classic's place in history.

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TheFirstClassic4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Mario 64 had better jumping mechanics, but banjo had better music, worlds, characters, story, and bosses. Banjo Kazooie wins for me, though they're both my favorite n64 games.

Games like these just aren't made anymore, truly one of the best games ever. Even now its way more fun than most every game that came out this gen.

Sucitta4215d ago

DK 64 was AMAZING ! still waiting on the remake that will most likely never happen = (

ChunkyLover534215d ago

Great game, wish Nuts And Bolts would have gotten the chance to excel, even though it got a platinum hits version, you could tell people were stuck in the past.

Would love a straight up Banjo game, or even a sequel to Nuts And Bolts.

Figured I'd get in before all the Rare haters with the "Old Rare" "Shovelware" "BS" rants start.

TheFirstClassic4215d ago

Nuts and Bolts might have been a pretty good game, but I really do wish they could have made a true sequel to the originals, so I understand why people were upset. Nuts and Bolts just couldn't stand up to the old masterpiece, which of course is what people would compare it to.

Knight_Crawler4215d ago

Well said...MS missed a big opportunity by not making a true sequel to the original.

MS could have had a game that would have competed with Mario and a mascot that kids and adults would both love.

Still puzzles me as to why MS did not want to continue with Banjo and Conkers...they nostalgia alone would put MS in a good position with old school gamers.

ChunkyLover534215d ago

@Knight_Crawler

Rare were the ones who went the direction they went with Nuts And Bolts. It was risky, but so many people these days ask for changes to games, so I'm not surprised they went with a new direction.

As for Conker, they released Conker at the end of the original Xbox life cycle (2005) It was right around the time as the Xbox 360 was slated to launch, so it obviously sold terribly.

The funny thing is, Conker had the same problem with the N64, Nintendo released it at the end of the consoles life and people ignored it because the next console was announced and released.

Another interesting thing is that the same thing happened with Conker and the Game Boy Color, they announced the game for the handheld, then announced the Game Boy Advance.

So its a bit of bad luck, I'd love if they re-visited the franchise with the Xbox 720, but I can understand why they didn't feel the urge to visit it so soon after a huge flop that was Live And Reloaded.

Knight_Crawler4215d ago

@Chuncky - I understand that and I am not saying that N&B was a bad game because I really enjoyed it and was something different at the time.

My only issue is why did'nt or hasn't MS made a true sequel to Banjo?

There have been many Mario clones or games that have tried to copy its formula but the only game that gives Mario a run for its money is Banjo...If Rare had just taken the Magic from the previous Banjo and brought it over next gen MS would have had its Mario which I thought was the the point of MS purchasing Rare.

Conker is another story because he was aimed more to the adults and teens so it would be hard for MS to make money from him but that does not mean that his games were not fun.

SilentNegotiator4215d ago

"wish Nuts And Bolts would have gotten the chance to excel"

Too bad it was a poorly designed (mainly) racer with horrendous wonky physics and a boring overworld. It was a mediocre game regardless of bastardizing a classic IP.

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eferreira4215d ago

I love this series, such a shame its not around anymore

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The 7 Best Rare Games: A Pioneering Legacy

Rare has had an astonishing journey since being founded in 1985. But of the 125 titles released to date, which are the 7 best Rare games?

darthv7233d ago

I was always a fan of Cobra Triangle.

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Gaming Franchises Deserving Of A Return

Bobby says, "Many video game franchises have come and gone, but what ones should return?"

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Terry_B256d ago

Art of Fighting
Bloody Roar
Clay Fighter
Darkstalkers
Ehrgeiz
Final Fight
..and so on ;)

FinalBoss256d ago

Art of Fighting...We are going to have a Fatal Fury, we can have hope for this one too :)

Number1TailzFan256d ago

I only had the CD version of Final Fight but yeah great game, great music. Challenging too.

The Desert/Jungle Strike games need to return too.

Asplundh256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

I remember playing Clay Fighters a lot, honestly it wasn't great and it got worse with each sequel.

Snookies12256d ago

Bushido Blade needs to be on that list of fighters!

Terry_B256d ago

I agree, but Bloody Roar is higher in my priority lol..due to that already super fun indie fighting game hellish Quart which is still on early access

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FinalBoss256d ago

Onimusha and Legacy of Kain! Excellent choice.
I would add Shenmue indeed.

gold_drake256d ago

breath of fire

shadow hearts / koudelka
dot hack series.

and many more u cant think of right now haha

FinalFantasyFanatic255d ago

Maybe Shadow Hearts/Koudelka can make a return now that Penny Blood is in the works (worked for 100 Heroes/Suikoden).

I'd really like them to do a Dot Hack compilation/quadrillion pack, and having Breath of Fire return would be good too, it didn't deserve to go out with a whimper (I'm talking about that mobile game they made for it).

gold_drake255d ago (Edited 255d ago )

haha you dont need to clarify your points, i know xD

i know theres a .hack project on the way, but no one really knows what it is. from qhat ive just read, the vice Pres. of CC2 wants a remake of the four games, but Bandai holds the licensing and hasnt given the greenlight for it.

and yehz bof didnt deserve the the ceap games at the end

RaidenBlack256d ago

Quake (not including the re-releases)
F.E.A.R
TimeSplitters
Hexen
Brothers in Arms
Bad Company
Resistance
Legacy of Kain
Midnight Club
Burnout
... many more

porkChop256d ago

The Legend of Dragoon
Infamous
Heretic/Hexen
Sleeping Dogs
Midnight Club
Scarface
Lost Odyssey
Syphon Filter
Red Faction
Snatcher

shinoff2183256d ago

Porkchop you probably know already but did you know they worked on a scarface 2.

porkChop255d ago

Yeah I've seen footage of it. Activision cancelled it after they bought Sierra. I still think that's crazy. Scarface was successful enough that Sierra planned on making Scarface 2, 3, 4, etc. It's wild that Activision would just cancel it like that.

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A New Banjo-Kazooie Game Is Exactly What We Need Right Now

Dave writes, "Banjo-Kazooie is a perfect franchise to bring back. Re-jigging it for modern consoles or creating a sequel will breathe life into a beloved series that has brought joy to millions of gamers for the last 25 years."

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Number1TailzFan286d ago

A new Conker would be nice too, and a new Diddy Kong Racing would make a nice change as well over the standard racers like Mario Kart.

Sonyslave3286d ago

Toy n bob can probably do since rare don't want too.

VincentVanBro286d ago

I’ve been waiting my whole life for another banjo kazooie sequel! Imagine a new entry with all of the ingenuity and new ideas they would have after modern platformers like Mario Odyssey

maniacmayhem286d ago

We had one with Yooka Laylee and it was trash and hardly anyone bought it. Let the nostalgia die, as much as I like platformers, we don't need another Banjo Kazooie, the game was mid at best.

Christopher286d ago

I'm of like mind. I think the appeal that we might have had for these games was a bit more nostalgic and that the advancement of the industry has led people further away from Banjo and more towards Fortnite and the like. People still enjoy the game, but it's a niche market because the industry moved on to other things.

Retroman285d ago

Industry moved on to other things. Such as??? Same boring open world shooters again and again and again and again same damn format with different titles. Same Damn shit since 2006 either military style fps or Viking solider, riding on horses, driving around with a car, sailing in a ship, to much Unnecessary exploring, to much side quest etc.
My Personal Opinion they all feel the same boring.

Christopher285d ago

Sorry Retroman, no individual controls the direction of the industry. It is what it is because people spoke with their wallets.

Number1TailzFan285d ago

Completely agree Retroman, most games today are simply better looking versions of the same stuff, recycled over and over. When they do something new, like for example Half Life 2 did in 2004 with the physics and very interactive world, it was fresh and exciting. Now many games take what came before and update the graphics and that's about it, or sometimes have less stuff than in the previous games even.

--Onilink--285d ago (Edited 285d ago )

Well that doesnt mean a good one cant be made.
Nintendo has continued to great make 3D Platformers, while not exactly the same Ratchet is not an entirely different genre either. Psychonauts 2 was great as well.
There is potential for a good Banjo game with the right developer.
That said, within MS probably only Double Fine or Toys for Bob I think could pull it off, Rare should stay far away from it, they are a very different team now

DarkZane285d ago

Just give up, leave Banjo-Kazooie in the past. They will never be able to recreate what made it and Banjo-Tooie good on N64 today, especially not by being owned by Microsoft.

purple101285d ago

The glory days of 007 Goldeneye ( with rumble Pak)

Perfect dark with ram expansion card.(but only really for 4 controller multiplayer )

Diddy kong racing & banjo

Those were all gems I miss those times, but let them go. Re-visiting your childhood is never as good as you think.

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