Black Ops 2 Kill Confirmed mode aims to discourage campers

According to Gameranx, Treyarch will be be changing some settings on mode "Kill Confirmed" for Black Ops 2 to help campers not to camp and get in the middle of heat.

Changes

Killing an enemy: 50 points
Picking up an enemy tag: 100 points
Picking up a teammate's tag: 25 points
A teammate picks up the tag of a player you killed: 25 points
So now obviously players will be always on foot with non stop action and of course there'll be stilling, arguing who gets the tag.

[Amazingmrbrock]

if it bothers people so much they should just take sniper rifles out of the game and limit guns to reflex scopes.

If you give someone a sniper rifle chances are (if their not quick scoping) that they will find a high place in the corner of the map with a good fov and snipe people.

Also since the maps are pretty small it gives snipers an advantage over how the are in games with really big maps.

[jimbobwahey]

The quality of the Call of Duty franchise would absolutely skyrocket if they completely removed sniper rifles from the game.

This also applies to every other multiplayer shooter.

[seanpitt23]

i know where you are coming from but i think in BF3 there are annoying but i wouldnt want them to be removed but COD on the other hand i would be happy to see the last of them the maps are to small in COD its a joke and quick scoping.

[jimbobwahey]

I haven't played much BF3 but I found snipers in Bad Company 2 just ruined the game completely. The bigger the maps the more people you have sniping and it's just really frustrating.

You'll start a game and have to attack a point and straight away you have a whole bunch of snipers on your team who hide far away from the objective and are absolutely useless, meanwhile there's just you and maybe two or three other people actually attacking the freakin' point and you just get dominated since you're vastly outnumbered.

To be honest, what I played of BF3 was the same in my experience and it just ruins every game. Snipers are the worst.

[TopDudeMan]

But that's what snipers do. They camp. That's how they play. You expect that.

[TheFirstClassic]

It's true in bc2 that if you have too many snipers nothing gets done, but if you have just a few of them it can really help the team. Not just them taking people out, but the amount of people they can spot really helps things out, I feel like they have a part to play in the game, just like every other class. I don't want them to leave battlefield. Besides that tho, I love sneaking up on em. Some of the most satisfying kills are flanking a sniper, and I've never found it that hard to do in bf.

[ninjahunter]

I guess it would be better if they took out shotguns, riot shields, and LMG. that way everyone gets to use the same 5 guns.

[Quetzll]

Topdude said it first. i get tired to people complaining about snipers. if they're camping, then you should know not go where ever they have an easy shot at you.

snipers aren't so bad when you quit running out into the open.

[MikeMyers]

That's true. Gamers need to take the time knowing the maps and not just constantly re-spawning to be easy targets. The Call of Duty games seem to target those who like fast action and if you are a good sniper you can rack up the kills pretty quickly.

However, you know there is a flaw in the game if too many people decide to be snipers and camp.

[Shepherd 214]

It's not always that simple, and the second you take your focus off the sniper to deal with something else is when the sniper gets you, or you die from a run n gun while dealing with the sniper. Snipers are stupid in most video games, they dominate way more than an actual sniper should.

[admiralvic]

This is certainly true, but in many instances I see multiple people using snipers, which makes the game awful. It's hard to kill 1 guy when 3 others are covering him or even win when the whole team is hidden in the middle of nowhere. I had some games in battlefield Bad Company 2 where we would go 3 minutes without a kill because of everyone sniping. THIS is what makes them bad. However, I rather just see balance in the end.

Is it really so hard to put a finite number of snipers on a map? Maybe have 1 per 8 people use the sniper so I don't have to fight 5 snipers and 3 people walking around.

[LoneCastaway]

snipers are not the problem, you missed the point there. it's for the kind of player that didn't give a shit about the dogtags because they would get the points anyway. the ACR+surpressor tryhard going for the moab or other killstreaks... they are changing the settings so players are motivated collect the dogtags from the players they killed and to stay on the move because it's most profitable.

[Tom000124]

Rubbish lol, a lot of snipers run around quick scoping because over long range it's pointless ( on Mw3) to even try sniping properly as SMGS and assault rifles are more accurate and do more damage from long range.

If they just implement Call of duty 4 sniping mechanics the problem would be solved, Black Ops did very well last time in creating a lot of blind spots from key sniping positions to keep it balanced.

I think taking SMGS out of the next instalment will do more good than harm

[MrAnderson]

people don't camp for xp they camp to piss people off, running over to get a dog tag won't be an issue, they just won't bother, and will sit there watching the dog tag(s) as bait.

[seanpitt23]

Well i know the ps3 version will be an abomination of mega magnitude expect 6 months after release 15 patches down the line and the game could be just playable.

[TheUndertaker85]

Been playing MW3 since launch. 15th Prestige right now. Activision can fix many problems of the game without a patch. It has been shown.

Patches for MW3 so far have pretty much been to introduce "new features" or make other features better, like the patch that increased PS3s recordings to HD rather than sub-HD and increased the time those recordings could run.

[seanpitt23]

I cannot comment on MW3 because I didn't buy it. But I did buy blackops for the ps3 on launch day and it was a joke it took treyarch along time and many patches to get on the same level of the 360 version.

[R1CAN617]

If they really wanna discourage camping why not make it so that a kill wont count torwards your K/D unless you grab the tag ?

[Summons75]

that would be neat but I'm sure there will be people who don't kill anyone at all and just grab dog tags.

[retrofly]

So you can only pay games the way most people want ou to play?

TBO its a game, if people can do it in the game legitamatly then let them.

I don't think its any fun sat at the back camping with a sniper, but some people do, just adapt and eal with it.

nothing nicer then a nice still sniper with tunnel vision anyway. ;)

[BelieveinGhosts]

i just hope that sniper rifles are useful. The horrible maps in MW3 made sniping impossible unless you quick scope which i refuse to do.

[TheUndertaker85]

... Are you being serious? I can think of multiple maps where it's actually easier to snipe people in MW3 than it is to actually move and play.

Fallen, Terminal, Interchange, Bakaara, Lockdown, Mission, Outpost, and Village all say Hi.

The only problem with sniping? 9/10ths of people who play CoD don't understand it nor where a good potential spot would be to snipe. The obvious second story of a building isn't always the best place to snipe from.

[Yodagamer]

I remember from the GoldenEye remake that they had an option that would kill anybody who stood still for 5 secs, I think it would be a good addition to cod

[FarCryLover182]

Snipers are fine, just take that aim assist off of it. Ridiculous.

[Qrphe]

Aim-assist is a FPS-killing cancer, in general

[gatormatt80]

Bu.. Bu.. But if they took aim assist off then people wouldn't be able to quick scope. /s

[Straightupbeastly]

It's so funny how Treyarch is trying to eliminate camping when they're the ones that created the camping community with Ghost Pro and overpowered silenced weapons. It's not that people want to camp, but why wouldn't they? No other cod game before it allowed for people to abuse camping like black ops did.

[TheUndertaker85]

Opening your eyes eliminates the perks of Ghost or Assassin. It's not like they're actually ghosts you know.

[andrew171994]

Sniping is not the problem it's overpowered rifles and smg's like the p90. People just sit in corners or a door way n just spray. Maybe if they enabled kicking or make it soo theres no overpowered guns they'd make the game playable. Problem solved..

[3-4-5]

I've never had a problem with campers or snipers.

* Keep moving. EX: Move to position, look around , check your surroundings, and move on to the next location.

* Learn how to strafe will burst firing.

[GAMExxOVER]

I have no problem with campers, They bring a little more difficulty to match, If you can not deal with a sniper pinning you down, then you are in the wrong game type, go play something else.

[SITH]

Exactly. Play harder, less whining.