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Fan Negativity: A Harsh But Necessary Evil For the Game Industry

Fan negativity may have played a part in the retirement of BioWare's founding doctors, but is a necessary evil for games and the game industry to grow.

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Godmars2904221d ago (Edited 4221d ago )

And no one notices how complaints have risen this gen when we've gotten less content, DLC, DRM and devs insisting they haven't made mistakes? Hide behind "artistic integrity"?

Again beating on the dead horse that is ME3, they all but slap you in the face with the fact that Sheppard is experiencing some kind of mental influence - from the very beginning of the game! - and yet ignore the indoctrination theory.

nofallouthero4221d ago

im sad they left but if it is true then i cant see it being any ones fault but theirs really

prototypeknuckles4221d ago

well maybe if
1-devs didnt completly change franchises into something they arent(re6,DmC,keep in mind i like change but when its completly different and has no sul of what it once was then its not even the same frnchise anymore)
2-lock content out on a $60 game you paid for just so it can be DLC.
3-always on DRM
4-slap the original fans in the face to cater to casuals that dont give a fuck about the franchise in the first place(Cod, DMC,NG,)
5-almost every game this generation being shorter just to add multiplayer
6-a majority of games are either 3rd or first person shooters with a generic white guy with a shaved head or dark hair

Anon19744221d ago

None of that warrants the harassment, hate and death threats that these people and their families endure to provide us a product for our entertainment. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions, but what we've seen displayed this gen from "fans" of videogames is flat out illegal behaviour in most countries and isn't acceptable under any circumstances.

Mainsqueeze4221d ago (Edited 4221d ago )

Seriously lol none of those warrants the type of hate they got. Games are supposed to be a fun hobby. The devs at Bioware worked tirelessly for years on those games,that were still in fact very fun and entertaining, even if they missed the mark on a few things. But a bunch of self entitled people that take video games way to seriously said some pretty shi**y and uncalled for things. Sorry but i would of quit too if a bunch of no life's that i work day in and day out to please just didn't know how to appreciate or even act remotely civil about. There is a big difference between being disappointed in the ending of a game and giving constructive criticism to acting like Bioware burned down your house and then ranting on the internet acting like your going to murder them.

googergieger4220d ago

I'll reply to both of the "not bioware drones" in this one reply. The people that defended Bioware blindly for whatever reason, both critics and "fans" alike were far more hateful and insulting to the people that disliked the game, than the other way around. A small minority of the large majority that hated the game, might have been hateful but that is the equivalent of hating all of one religion because a few extremist do something catastrophic. It is ignorant and close minded to do something like that.

Many people including myself were rather civil when it came to disliking the game. We sold the game back and voiced our displeasure for it. We gave real insight and valid reasons as to why the game as a whole, especially the ending was lacking.

What we got in return was Bioware ignoring all the valid criticisms and politicizing the whole ordeal. "Critics" not taking a serious look at themselves and the process, but instead turning on fans that had valid reasons for turning against them and the game.

We aren't/weren't entitled. We aren't/weren't cry babies. We aren't/weren't ungrateful.

We gave praise when it was deserved and we gave criticism when it was deserved. Instead of being grown up and admitting or at the very least promising to do better next time, they all(Critics/Bioware)decided to bite the hand that feeds them.

Oh well. I, like a lot of other gamers, who don't champion mediocre products as 10/10 masterpieces simply because of special effects and following a tired formula after two games of finding a way to bring it in a new fashion and a great advertising campaign behind it, will not let Bioware make this entire thing something that it is not.

This isn't about closure. This isn't about speculation. This isn't about entitlement. This isn't about art. This isn't about integrity.

This is about ten pounds of mediocre in a five pound bag. This is about the fact that if you don't ask for better in this world, you won't get better. This is about majority of the people not liking this game, being smart enough to move onto other games and simply telling Bioware, we won't get your next product if we feel you put such a mediocre effort into it. And Bioware being grown up enough to realize such a thing is possible.

Because the problem with watering things down and making them as inoffensive, generic, and accessible as possible is...there is a whole lot more competition that has it down to a science and is up front about being generic fluff. And the "fans" that stuck by you because they like said fluff, have no loyalty or discriminatory tastes to their name.

Bimkoblerutso4221d ago

I think as far as the artistic side of these games is concerned, there are perhaps some times that people go overboard....but from a consumer perspective, these devs and publishers deserve everything they get, shy of death threats of course. The stuff they've been doing is despicable and they need to know that people are pissed off.

vortis4221d ago

I agree with all the posts here above me. You guys said it right.

The thing that bothered me the most was game journos siding with publishers just to keep their perks. I mean, us gamers are the ones footing bills in the long run and are the ones that keep the industry afloat, trying to shove crap down our throats but ask us for money is hypocritical and anti-consumerist.

I'm glad that fans have mounted enough outcry to form some kind of change, and yes the whining and moaning and crying is absolutely necessary. I hate how some franchises have become sterilized for casual gamers or how creativity and actual FUN has taken a backseat for pre-scripted Hollywood explosions and slow-motion (seriously if I see one more Hollywood slow-mo explosion...)

It would be nice if we could just get back to gaming. No more AAA sized budgets for mediocre and piss-poor games, no more $100 million dollar marketing campaigns for games that aren't even about playing games. It'd just be nice to get back to devs making projects for fun and gamers buying those products because they are fun.

CrimsonMask4221d ago

I would recommend the witcher 2 as that is a game that meets that criteria. I also suggest metro 2033. heavy rain. Alan wake. there are more that I support but as gamers we all complain but the majority don't support shit.

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BioWare Could be Working on More than Just Dragon Age Dreadwolf and Mass Effect 4

Earlier this year, BioWare was hit with layoffs as part of a downsizing of parent company Electronic Arts, but fans have been reassured that the next Mass Effect game hasn’t been impacted. Likewise, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf’s development is still churning along, with BioWare putting it at the forefront of its focus and rumors suggesting that it could launch sometime later this year. Fans might be getting another look at the long-in-development Dragon Age: Dreadwolf at the Summer Game Fest in June.

If the recently posted job offering for a temporary development manager is any indication, BioWare could have yet another surprise up its sleeve for when Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age: Dreadwolf are nearing completion. This mystery BioWare video game could truly be anything, from another spin-off of its two major properties to something entirely new. All there is to go on at the moment is a vague mention in the job posting, and it might still be some time before BioWare is ready to confirm any new games in its pipeline.

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just_looken18d ago

So a studio that spent years on anthem then this dragon age thing is now also working on another ip along with mass effect,

You think they would be worried that there brand has been on 3 major screw ups

Dragon age 3 launched broken with the frostbite engine yes its a good game but you can see in the late game how rough it was

anthem......

Mass effect 4 well that dev team was fired so yeah.....

They should make sure this new dragon age is a goat instead of putting more work on the table

bababooiy17d ago

Bioware today is like 150 poeple i dont see how they are seemingly working on all these projects at the same time.

Michiel198917d ago

Inquisition wasn't broken, it just had some flaws and on the contrary it also had some strengths. If you call inquisition a major screw up then idk what to say.

That said with what happened to the study since then and now, I'm not really confident that their next game will be any good.

just_looken17d ago

If you played it fully to get plat like me back in its novemeber launch window you had that castle with empty area's endgame missions not there or working and a mp that was made around loot box grind like the mass effect mp.

Its hard to explain to those that played it years later after they tossed out the dlc/patch's

Michiel198917d ago

entitled much? I played it at launch too. Why you even platted it if it was a "major screw up"?
It was good enough for you to sink 100 hours in but also a complete fuckup at the same time, make up your mind.
So either you like shitty games or you're just talking out of your ass.

RaidenBlack17d ago

Well just wanna say, Archetype Entertainment is the new BioWare, composed of mainly ex-BioWare vets.
And they're developing Exodus (starring Matthew McConaughey), a new sci-fi RPG (spiritual successor to Mass Effect, dare I say?)

CantThinkOfAUsername17d ago

I hope it's a single player game with Anthem's gameplay mechanics.

Becuzisaid17d ago

They're owned by EA. What makes you think that they wouldn't publish for PS5? Shoot, if your fridge could connect to your bank account EA would try to release it for that if they could!

Double_O_Revan18d ago

How about they focus on those games and not over extend themselves? We don't need another Anthem.

Becuzisaid17d ago

Bioware died after Inquisition (some would even argue after ME3). They are no longer the same company.

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Mass Effect 3's Ending for Javik Misses the Forest for the Trees

Based on one narratively fitting ending in Mass Effect 3, Prothean squadmate Javik is highly unlikely to return in the next Mass Effect game.

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anast45d ago

He was one of my least favorite characters. I wish they would have done the Proths different.

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Mass Effect Writer Reveals Why He Left BioWare

During a part of his interview with Minnmax, Mac Walters gave details of why he chose to leave BioWare.

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