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Earning Achievements now unlocks discounts on Xbox LIVE Marketplace

Microsoft has launched a new Xbox LIVE Rewards scheme entitling players who have passed certain Gamerscore milestones to additional discounts on Xbox LIVE Marketplace.

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claud34227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

Talk about late with the idea, we all wanted a use for them dumb achievements. But I still hate them and will not get them for discounts on Xbox live, since I never buy anything from it and never will. GAME OF THE YEAR EDITIONS I wait for and those are the ones I like and would never buy of Xbox live. I am not even connected to live what so ever and never will. I will not pay £16 or £25 or even £40 for a gold member ship since i think because its a total waste of money and it sucks as a service big time. Never will i be connected with this new scheme and I am glad I never get sucked into its lies

HarryMasonHerpderp4227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

It's better than nothing but I would of thought Microsoft would try and compete with Playstation Plus a bit more.
Competition is great for the gamers and Xbox Live users would only benefit from Microsoft rising up to Sonys challenge.
Sadly this doesn't seem like the case.

chuckyj14227d ago

umm...MS makes Billions off of xbox live...While Sony is yet to turn a profit off of Playstation Online service....

Who needs to compete with who? I think you have that mixed around.

HarryMasonHerpderp4227d ago

I think you're confused with company profit and what really matters to us as gamers. I'm talking about what's best for the consumer.
Not Microsofts billions.

ABizzel14227d ago

WTF is 2% off going to do. $1.20 off of a $60?

It's great that they're using their system based off achievements because it rewards gamers who game the most, but come on 2% at least 5% - 10%.

chuckyj14227d ago

If a service doesn't make money and bleeds a company out...See how long that service is offered.

If a service is not profitable for a company it will eventually be shut down.

HarryMasonHerpderp4227d ago

Let Microsoft and Sony's accountants worry about their profit margins.

DragonKnight4227d ago

chuckyj1: PSN+ doesn't make Sony money? Home transactions doesn't make Sony money? See, unlike MS, Sony do not believe you should have to pay your ISP for internet access and then Sony themselves to access the online content of a game you paid $60 for already. They make money in such a way that isn't a huge rip off to consumers.

AIndoria4227d ago

@chuckyj1

PlayStation Network is free, unless you're living in a cave?

darthv724227d ago

You do know you dont have to be a gold member to get achievements and make purchases on xblive...right?

Silver members may not be able to play online and access things like netflix and facebook but they can still earn achievements and buy stuff through the marketplace.

Irishguy954227d ago

HarryMason, you should care who earns profits, for all you know Sony could end up out of business with the way they have been playing the game up until now

nukeitall4226d ago

I find it funny that MS gives gamers something, and people complain. I guess they could give you nothing and you would have nothing to complain about.

Then again, it seems the usual fanboys are the ones complaining.

EVILDEAD3604226d ago

Loved achievements anyway..

I'll take a free discount for earning like I wouldve anyway.

One of the most persistant requests about Xbox Live achievements was that they should mean more and be put towards something financially.

Bam..it's here and there are still complaints?

LOL

Evil

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ALLWRONG4227d ago

"Talk about late with the idea" Who else is doing this?

SPAM-FRITTER-1234227d ago

Steam do it over the holidays.

complete a task in a selected game and earn discount on games.

Ron_Danger4227d ago

PS+ also offers 10% discounts on day 1 download games. I already preordered Doom 3 BFG Edition

TheLeapist4227d ago

I think he's referring to the fact that we're nearing the end of the 360's life cycle.

darthv724227d ago

This really isnt about the 360 if you think about it. While the discounts may apply to related content for 360 games, the Live service is exactly that. A service.

So just as it went from the original xbox to the 360, it will likely transcend to the next xbox as well as windows8 and WP7 & 8.

Achievements will be available in many different titles on various MS products. Marketplace content will be available for the different MS platforms as well. Not just the 360 anymore.

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Trenta274227d ago

" Birthday Gift (approximate retail value ("ARV"): $0.25 USD)"

Seriously?!

vitorizzo4227d ago

meanwhile on ps+ they are giving away games new and old for free

darthv724227d ago

meanwhile, on ps+, they are giving away games (new and old) for free for the duration of your membership.

All fixed. Punctuation and context.

Ron_Danger4227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

Hey darthv

Before you pat yourself too much on the back with that comment, remember a similar thing could be said about Live: once your subscription runs out, you can't play the online portion of all your games anymore

darthv724227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

I was simply correcting a common context error many seem to make.

The punctuation part...just needed to be done.

Oh and to add to yours: "once your subscription runs out, you can't play the online portion of all your games or any other gold related features."

You know, because some people use a gold membership for more than competitive play. You get an agree from me.

Ron_Danger4227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

Word

And an agree from me

ALLWRONG4226d ago

"meanwhile on ps+ they are giving away games new and old for free"

Stop paying for PSN+ and see if Sony lets you keep those games.

That's what I thought. NEXT!

lodossrage4224d ago

Stop paying for Xbox Live and see if you can still play your games online or use ANY of the services you ALREADY pay for if you use them in the first place.

That's what I thought. NEXT!!!!

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FamilyGuy4227d ago

It's crazy. when Live first launched with its "point system" for making payments I always was thinking "hey, they should make achievement points translate to money or discounts". Now, years later, they finally do it... kinda.

Better than nothing indeed.

omi25p4226d ago (Edited 4226d ago )

Well you are clearly completely against Microsoft no matter what they do.

Achievements arent dumb, they have added literally days more playing time to the shortest game for me and the people who love unlocking them.

Xbox live is well worth the money for one reason alone. Party chat, I dont pay a home phone bill because of it.

Instead of paying a randomly generated number to talk to sales reps i pay a fixed amount of money to talk to friends and family while fighting dragons in Skyrim or beating those same friends and family in any number of competitive multiplayer games.

Anything else that comes with a Gold membership is an added bonus for me.

I have nearly 100.000 gamescore so just for enjoying playing lots of games and earning achievements in them i get 2% knocked off of what is basically my phone bill.

(Im usually spend hours a day just in party chat. It would cost a ton to do that with a phone)

slimpickens4226d ago

Now I agree Live is nice to have and don't mind paying but your comment has confused me. Why would you not buy a home phone just because of party chat? Sure it's a great feature but if you're serious about it I'm just a little confused.

born2live4226d ago

@Claud3

"I am not even connected to live what so ever and never will. I will not pay £16 or £25 or even £40 for a gold member ship since i think because its a total waste of money and it sucks as a service big time."

Nice trolling, but how would you know if the service sucks when you've never been connected to it (in your own words)?

Zachmo1824226d ago

Thank you, Microsoft for saving me a whole $1.20 OFF a 60 game. With those savings I can now afford a Double Cheeseburger from McDonald's.

Aghashie4226d ago

@Zachmo

U make me laugh. Bubbles for you :)

videoxgamexfanboy4226d ago

It's unbelievable that you managed to get 28 agree's for such a ridiculous rant....Then again this is n4g sooooooo...

Gamer19824226d ago

Still stupid this idea as its so easy to exploit achievements. I remember when they first started that guy who had 100k in a few months he had the EU,US and Jap version all 1000GS in several games. All it takes is a save game editor and a few other things so I read. This is not possible on ps3 as achievements are not done in the same way, so you cannot just load up a save and get achievements at least for most games. Some games its still possible.

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iamnsuperman4227d ago (Edited 4227d ago )

What is the special gift considering its value is only 15p?????

I am not so knowledgable about the live gamer score thing but how hard is it to get to this level

ShadowKingx4227d ago

Probably a party hat or a present as a avatar item.

FragMnTagM4227d ago

every retail game is 1,000 gamer score. Some have more with additional DLC.

So about 25 games maxed out.

Arcade games are like 200, but I think they raised it.

TekoIie4227d ago

Some games go to 400 now but to my knowledge thats only minecraft.

Gazondaily4227d ago

1% rebate on all purchases

-___-

Can't be arsed with that...

jambola4227d ago

i always thought microsoft were cheap
now it's confirmed
seriously 2%..... really?

AzaziL4226d ago

$1.20 off a year of live with 25k gamerscore

whoop dee doo..... -__-

-MD-4227d ago

A 2% rebate? Really? How about something I'll actually notice.

brish4227d ago

Don't think of it as 2% off. Think of it as for every $3,000 dollars you spend you get a free game!

/s

JAM_brz4227d ago

LOL

Just thinking so to not being so disappointed

Bimkoblerutso4227d ago

One of the article comments had it right. If they really wanted to give us a reward without really giving us anything, they would let us pay without going through their insulting points system.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I4227d ago

I see them not attaching a monetary value to so it tricks the brain into thinking you are getting more /spending less than you actually are. (Not trolling) Kind of like in a casino, sit down at a slot machine or anything electronic and you can go through a bunch of money looking at credits rather than actual money. It's a sub conscious thing.

You ever sit down at a quarter machine at a carnival where you push coins/prizes off a ledge. I will spend 10 dollars on those easily to knock a shot glass filled with quarters worth about 3 dollars. You start with a dollar and use the winnings then add just a little bit more over and over. You end up spending more in the long run because you are not handing over dollars you are using credits.

WiiLovePS3604226d ago

LOOK_AT_THIS_I is right, but the main reason was so they had a universal price for content.

They release a game or piece of content and simply have 1 price attached to it, say 400MS. Sony have to release a game and then say "ok it will be US$5, but 3.5£, 6 Deutschmark, etc". Then you get people from different regions complaining saying "it's cheaper in region x than it is here".

Microsoft have one price for all, it's just the conversion rate of $ to MS points that changes.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I4226d ago

@wiilove
That actually makes a lot of sense. Points are points regardless of where you are. Not sure the rate of exchange but I know Aussies were always bitching about how expensive a lot of content is there. You may spend more for the card but its advertised at the same rate

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos3h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac2h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits1h ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi57m ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek1h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies34m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows30m ago(Edited 29m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

QUOTE
"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip2h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide2h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies39m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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