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Will This Be Sony's Last Generation?

"With less money put into PR and holiday marketing, along with a lack of news that gamers want to hear, Sony could be at the top of a steep hill down. This might be Sony’s last generation in the games market." | Explosion.com

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NYC_Gamer4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

Sony isn't dead when it comes to gaming.We can expect many changes within the company spending wise.Sony just needs to cut down in some departments and rebuild.

Abash4219d ago

Did I just go back in time to 2006?

gamejediben4219d ago

I know, right. For a second there I was expecting to see some doucebag screaming "PS3 HAZ N0 GAYMEZ!!!111!!1!

Who is writing all these "Sony is doomed!" articles? Why are they being put up on N4G?

Sure, they need to tighten up their ship but Sony is doing gangbusters right now and these retards think this is Sony's last gasp? What planet do these people live on? They need to shut the hell up or go back to 2006-07.

Gazondaily4219d ago

Come on....really? Enough with the same old nonsense.

Can you imagine the blow on the industry if Sony, for some miraculous reason, went awol from the market? It's not going to happen. People need to realise that, whilst Sony's other departments may be suffering financially, the gaming market is recording profits (and more so than Microsoft's if some reports are to be believed).

LackTrue4K4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

"for a second or third time, JUST THIS WEEK!?!"

A-Glorious-Dawn4219d ago

"I just can't help it, I lay awake in bed at night and can't sleep, just knowing... Just thinking that... that Sony is out there competing in the game industry.. It's just too much! I just need to...I have to go and write another Sony article!" :_(

AsimLeonheart4219d ago

What the hell!? Another one!? Man this is the fourth "Sony is Doomed!!!" article within this week that has reached the "hottest". Dont you "journalists" have any other worthwhile stories to write? Stop resorting to cheap tactics for hits if you cannot write good enough stories to receive genuine hits.

metsgaming4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

yes sony is going to just drop out of the gaming business. The CEO is from the gaming division, stated gaming is a core business for them, it actually makes them money, they just bought gaikai, yes them dropping out of the gaming business and never making a ps4 is a totally logical thing to think of./s
They are going to invest more into gaming not less its obvious.

Its official Gaming "journalism" cant possibly get any lower. Absolutely nothing else they can do to go lower they have hit the rock and are staying there.

darthv724219d ago

Let's say for the sake of argument that sony choose to bow out of "consoles". That does not mean they bow out of gaming but could in essence allow them to transcend into another form of gaming.

No not the SEGA software route but actually using their assets to converge into one entertainment format. I could actually see them expand on the smart TV role by including either consolesq features but using the cloud delivery system.

So as their TV's come out newer and newer they essentially are upgrading the hardware for the gaming side as well. That isnt to say those who buy into the first gen are screwed because the games themselves are delivered via their streaming service.

So the games are effectively tailored to the set you play on. Better set comes out then the results will be improved than the previous one. Sony has an advantage that neither Nintendo or MS have.

They are a three way provider in the hardware, software and entertainment content. They hold movie and tv studios as well as different hardware divisions and software studios.

MS is predominantly a software company. You cant say they are in the hardware business when their main money maker is really the software.

Nintendo has always been about their hardware and software so they dont have any move/tv studios for non gaming content. All their stuff is through licenses and contracts. Same with MS.

If we were to go on the idea that this is sony's last generation then it would be a very narrow minded idea. They are a more flexible company than most people give them credit for.

otherZinc4219d ago

@Abash,

Yes you did; & SONY still needs a "Halo Killer" to compete!

Clarence4219d ago

Yes you did. It will be funny when Sony announces, their next gen console.

As soon as Sony announced the slimmer PS3 the hate articles started coming out.

Boody-Bandit4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

I'm out of toilet paper.
*press print*
Bah, never mind. I wouldn't even wipe my backside with this trash article.

geddesmond4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

Lol I thought the exact same thing. People don't understand a few things. For one Blu Ray disks are well established now and their costs are well down on that front. Theres new versions of the lasers that can read faster as well as read bigger disks.

Sony established a few great new IPs this gen and managed to get by with very little third party support so even if third party devs ain't on board with them at the start then they still have KZ, UC, GOW, GT, Infamous, The Last of Us and other new IPs probably in development so they can't go wrong there.

I can't believe the firing of half of Sonys PR staff has people thinking its the end of Sony lol. Yeah because PR dudes like the one that won the first tester series are very qualified PR dudes lol. Sonys done well enough with very little advertising this gen and the games releasing this holiday season for them weren't great anyway. Kids games IMO and million sellers at best.

Lol I think this is just a taste of whats to come for Sony next gen. Another first 2 years of media hate.

Oh and the article writer on Twitter labeled this week. Sony, revenge of the PR team.

https://twitter.com/sarydac...

Go figure its just a BS article made up by a girl lol.

TitanUp4219d ago

this is not about 2006 sony has had financial trouble for a while now.

RedDevils4219d ago

Why there so many of these Doom and Gloom about PS3 lately?

thoract4219d ago

@otherzinc

Can't go through one day without someone saying the PS3 needs a "Halo Killer". There are tons of games on the PS3 that killed Halo a long time ago bud. Only a Shootbox360 fanboy will say something like this everytime.

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killerhog4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

Yeah because redesigning the ps3 to be less cost efficient, redesigning PSN to be more user friendly and publishing some new IPs, means they are going downhill? I'm sure the new ps3 slim is a profit for Sony, and will sell considering the people left without a ps3 will get a huge hard drive, and great games for like 30$ more. Also out of most of their other branches, the playstation brand has been a bigger profit to them I believe.

stevenhiggster4219d ago

"...redesigning the ps3 to be less cost efficient..."
Did you not mean more cost efficient?

miyamoto4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

The sad thing is ... these bloggers have nothing else good to write about that could guarantee hits except Sony related articles.

Why not Wii U? why not Xbox?

This really shows how low these bloggers can go.
Bloggers can't leave Sony even for one minute , can they? 

Why is Sony or PS3 or Vita bloggers favorite topic to bash and bark on? 

Is it because they live off their careers out of the Sony fans?

Imagine a world with out Sony PlayStation they say?

First thing will happen is these creeps will loose their jobs and blogging career.

PlayStation is a very strong brand on the contrary.

For years not even M$' billions nor Nintendo combined can bring it down or knock it out. That is factual truth.

Dream on haters.

Ares84HU4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

I don't know what's going on here now a days with the Sony hate articles.

They are already working on the PS4 so it's obvious that this will not be their last generation.

Articles like this one should not be approved on n4g.

In fact, any article that purposefully bashes a console because of bias should not be approved on n4g.

joeorc4219d ago

"Articles like this one should not be approved on n4g."

I would say let them continue, besides i like the fact that now Nintendo fan's cannot say they are the only one that can say .."the Media is always picking on Nintendo"

LOL.

OH' poor me and my fav. game console company is getting picked on in the media and the gamer's keep pileing it on...lol

Ducky4219d ago

I gotta ask, why did you approve the article?

The subject matter has gotten tiresome, and the article itself offers no new points of discussion.

inStereo4218d ago

Yeah, I much would have preferred an article like "My personal top 5 reasons why these games should be re-made in HD with better boob physics"

Anon19744219d ago

Just a friendly reminder, you can vote down a site by clicking the link right below the "Read full story" link. If you want to stop seeing this crap on N4G, if we can't stop idiots from approving it in the first place, we can at least blacklist these sites so the quality filter will start to weed them out.

It's really getting out of hand. Something needs to be done.

Persistantthug4219d ago

I'll tell you why:

Because if you think about this.....I mean really really put your thinking caps on and brainstorm....

What other product/brand/franchise does Sony have with commercial dominating potential?
What other product?

Answer: Right now the only product Sony has that can dominate and put Sony in the drivers seat of importance, is the PLAYSTATION brand.

It's not TV's, because Samsung and LG and others have figured out how to make good TV's in the form of LCD's. Tube TV's are no more.
Camera's, music players, Cell phones....pretty much everything is the same way.

But the Playstation brand, while it did tumble some this generation....it's still well known, and with the right moves, it can once again be dominant, if not a commercial goldmine.

Sony's not leaving that behind....they can't afford to.

Aceman184219d ago

to answer this articles question imma have to go with NO simple as that. if it was their last why spend cash developing brand new IPs, or even a cloud gaming service to probably implement into their future business moves?

torchic4219d ago

I'm just putting it out there that Gaikai was bought for ALL of Sony, not just for PlayStation.

Aceman184219d ago

@torchic

thats why i said future business moves. i meant everything they have.

neogeo4219d ago

It's starting to look pretty scary. I hope they pull through.

SegataShanshiro4219d ago

The Sony video game console known as Playstation 3 does not have entertainment software support that other respectable companies have. And therefore, i conclude that based on this, it is not as appealing as other are. Or for the common man: Ps3 hAz n0 Ga3mz

SegataShanshiro4219d ago

The Sony video game console known as Playstation 3 does not have entertainment software support that other respectable companies have. And therefore, i conclude that based on this, it is not as appealing as other are. Or for the common man: Ps3 hAz n0 Ga3mz :)

showtimefolks4219d ago

How many Sony doom articles do we need? And for the record since this author is clueless playstation brand makes Sony a lot of money it's one of their money makers so no they won't get out of business

And when did Sony actually invested into PR? Uncharted 3 was the last game that Sony actually put a lot of effort into

But this feels like 2006 every day Sony doom articles. I guess wiiu fanboys and Xbox defense force have junked forces because you hear nothing bad about either or even any new just all Sony doom articles

3-4-54219d ago

The only thing that is " DONE ", is/are a lot of these journalists/writer's careers after they are proven to be wrong 95/100 times.

Jazz41084219d ago

To answer honestly.....Yes and I believe it will be MS last gen as well as I expect the infrastructure to grow enough in the next ten years to make streaming and digital distribution the new way to play allowing the current consoles to continue to be relevent far past any gen so far.

gintoki7774219d ago

someone make a "n4g is doomed articles"

avengers19784219d ago

LONG LIVE PLAY.......AND........LONG LIVE PLAYSTATION.

LAZL0-Panaflex4219d ago

There will be ps4 but not ps5 or xbox 4

doogiebear4218d ago

I sure hope it's not the end. Microsoft doesn't care about real gaming (kinect and no exclusives + rehashes of the same Halo/Gears model over & over); While Nintendo is for children and morons who can't see that Nintendo's heyday is over.

Now we also got Cable Company's vying for some of the gaming world too via streaming, and 3rd party company's beginning to make their own streaming services (Square Enix has already created it's own Cloud Service where u can play some of their games right now without a console system). And other 3rd party's like Sega are putting games on Cloud/Steam.

So, I hope SOny has a solid plan, and drops their TV division immediately. Kaz has always been a great businessman, and I've been following him before he was super famous, but is he willing to change the company in a way that redefines SONY (Less TV's and Camcorders, more Software, Game Hardware, consolidation of Sony Services (Sony Games division, Music Division, Movie Division, TV shows (not hardware) divisions, etc into all working together on ONE box (The PS 4))? I sure hope he does, because money is leaking out of SONY fast.

Relientk774218d ago

I want $1 everytime I see an anti-Sony on here, so then I'll be rich

subtenko4218d ago

Alright...time for people to start playing "Is the Nintendos last year in gaming" articles. same with Microsoft's Xbox... If people are gonna continue to rehash the same nonsense, might as well spice it up with the rest of the companies.

So go get writing! :) lol

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chukamachine4219d ago

I think the media needs a slap. HARD.

The amount of bullshit aimed at sony this gen is unreal.

RememberThe3574219d ago

"media" is a loose term on a site like this. The submission process is so broken I don't even contribute anymore. Real sites fall behind the crap blogs with bullshit headlines, and no substance. This sites moderation has fallen very far from when I first joined.

Carl_Shocker4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

...and yet people wonder why most gamers think that Sony is always the victim...they are and articles like this prove that

I mean how many time have you seen on here

"This is such a PS3 fanboy site"

No...it's really not, many gamers just see that Sony, despite trying their hardest this gen and are the only company out of the big 3 to give core gamers what they want, don't deserve to the hate they get, it's uncalled for

I mean with the small financial situation they are in they could of easily taken MS route and give core gamers the middle finger while they milk the casual crowd but they havent, they've stayed strong and are still making core gamers their main priority.

Ducky4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

PS3 fanboy site =/= pro-PS3 articles get approved

The majority of the people here are PS3 fans though. That's undeniable. You can just look at the comments, or look at the front page where a weekly PS-Store update is one of the hottest stories.

KwietStorm_BLM4219d ago

Small financial situation? lol! I want to see Sony get back its footing as much as anyone, but you're not even serious calling it a small financial situation.

Machioto4219d ago

@fatman You kind of contradict your self,if most commentor are ps3 owners than any article that is negative or can be misconstrued as such should be sanitized because mojarity favored the ps3.

ChunkyLover534219d ago

This is a pro Sony fan site, people only put these articles up because they know the Sony fans will rage and click on the site and give tons of hits and attention.

The way to get hits here is easy, write an article that puts Sony in a negative light, write an article that praises Sony, write an article bashing Microsoft or Nintendo, write an article praising Microsoft or Nintendo.

In particular.
Xbox Live
Rare Studios
Kinect
Nintendo Wii U

The big way to tell is just by the comments, if there is a Gran Turismo article its 95% Sony fans praising it in the comments, one Forza article and its 95% negative comments from Sony fans saying how Turn 10 needs to make something new.

Huge difference, but when you see that Tentsoftube kid with 4 bubbles, you know somethings off about this site.

srcBFMVBMTH4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

@ChunkyLover53

"one Forza article and its 95% negative comments from Sony fans saying how Turn 10 needs to make something new."

Probably because THEY DO need to work on something new. At least Polyphony Digital tried. They have 2 other IP's around their belt. How many does Turn10 have exactly? 1. Just 1 IP. lmao.

Ducky4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

@Machioto
How would a negative article get 'sanitized'?
You need a few approvals to get an article up; a majority population isn't going to be able to stop that. (Not to mention that the most users here don't ever approve articles anyways)
In fact, some of the people who approve negative PS3 article are PS3 fans themselves, either because they can handle criticism, or they just want to watch the world burn. At least two of the people who approved this article also wrote positive comments about Sony here.

There's no need to be ashamed or downplay the fact that most people here are PS3 fans either. It's not a bad thing.

the bastards4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

@ srcBFMVBMTH

"Probably because THEY DO need to work on something new. At least Polyphony Digital tried. They have 2 other IP's around their belt. How many does Turn10 have exactly? 1. Just 1 IP. lmao."

The ones that have the most best reviews are the ones that least needs fixing. And best sales, doesn't mean the best product either, it can mean a couple other things too, like "loyalty" which is what the COD series has.

Machioto4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

@fatman I mean "sanitize" in the sense of removing or taking negative articles about Sony before being approved.Why would a Sony fan approve a negative?a fan wouldn't do that.

Ducky4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

^ As I said, most users here aren't involved in the approval process.

Post-approval, there's a reporting feature, but hardly anyone uses that (admittedly, it probably doesn't serve much purpose here as it is just an opinion article)
There's a rating you can give to the site, hardly anyone uses that again.

The only thing people seem to do is comment/respond (which does nothing as there's not much to actually discuss here), get in petty fanboy wars, and complain about others while not using the proper tools themselves to clean the mess up.

This article became the hottest topic of the day on N4G within an hour. Not bad for a small site that barely anyone had heard of.
Now, this send a pretty clear message. You want hits? Well, write a negative article on Sony and submit it here and we'll pimp it to the top. It's no wonder more and more negative articles on Sony are popping up when they become so popular easily. The ironic part is that most of the popularity is due to people that are Sony fans but choose to just comment about their frustrations rather than using the report/rating system... or better yet, just ignoring the garbage articles themselves.

As for who's been approving articles, look at the comment above by NYC_Gamer and the comment below by iamnsuperman. Do they look like they hate Sony? Well, they both approved the article. Maybe you can ask them why. Chances are they'll get a 'well said' too for rebutting the opinions in the article.

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shoddy4219d ago

Another Sony is teh doom.

We'll see anotherone tomorrow.

Can't we wait for Last of us, Beyond, god of war, ps allstar.

garos824219d ago

well said.a company going down the drain does not invest in New ips.I'mso looking forward toallthose games mentioned!

killerhog4219d ago

@fatoldman

Well it could also mean, since n4g is mostly core gamers, that since Sony/ps3 is the main catering to the core, you have other folks also checking out ps3 articles? Wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo and Xbox fans/owners are checking out ps3 articles for whatever reason good or bad.

ChunkyLover534219d ago

Hell of a core lineup Sony is catering to this year man.

What is Microsoft and Nintendo thinking with their meager and totally un-core lineups huh?

Outside_ofthe_Box4219d ago

@Chunky

Hell of a core lineup Sony has next year too. ;)

JoySticksFTW4219d ago

Seconded. A REAL hard slap.

Gamers better hope to God Sony never leaves gaming.

I'm so serious about this.

We'd be playing casual games and the same handful of mainstream mega-sellers every gen.

But these so-call journalists seem hellbent on running Sony into the ground.

What they don't understand is unfortunately knuckleheads are actually influenced by their words.

Then those misinformed or malicious "gamers" go on and spread the negativity.

All of a sudden, a system that gave us some amazing games, lots of quality new IP's,the first blu-ray player for many, is seen as lacking, unpopular, and failing.

Now hardcore gamers (should) know that's bs, but casuals believe that crap and don't buy the system.

And Sony certainly doesn't help their own cause. Their advertising has been severely lacking this gen. Now KB's playing Wii's in commercials. Huh?

Such a strange console generation. The console makers are supposed to compete and push each other while gamers reap the rewards. But I wonder if some short-sighted individuals really want Sony to fail.

Seems thankless at this point when any good you do is twisted or ignored.

metsgaming4219d ago

just wait for the sony bashing when the ps4 is announced and released. They will just re release their old articles and just change ps3 to ps4.

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iamnsuperman4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

Right a lot of publications are missing the other side when it comes to laying off half the PR team. It could be an indication of Sony moving to the next generation. Why have the crap part launch a new system (considering the PR department hasn't been good this generation).

"The lackluster sales of all of their current-generation systems may have pushed them into a rut that discourages their continued involvement in the games industry. Sony hasn’t always focused on gaming: cameras, HD televisions, and those archaic things called ‘CD players’ used to be their main industry."

This is rubbish as the gaming division is one of it strongest divisions and I wouldn't say the PS3 didn't sell well.

"It would explain why they insist on keeping the price of their systems high and why they have not revealed more details about the sequel to their current console"

Keeping the price is an attempt to make a larger profit off their new PS3 before jumping into the next generation (as the PS3 will take a hit when it comes to the PS4 announcement)

"I picked up a B.A. in English with a specialty in Poetry" again no business background so stay out of analysing Sony's business. You do not see this in any other types of journalism.

Merrill4219d ago

Will this be your last(fan boy driven, flame-bait) article?

It seems that actually journalism has gone by the way side.

KonaBro4219d ago

Gotta love the influx of ridiculous flamebait articles involving Sony over the last few weeks. Sony isn't going anywhere scrubs.

DigitalRaptor4219d ago

Essentially, this article tells us that you should never go full retard!

tigertron4218d ago

Not only am I giving you an agree for your post, but I'm giving you an agree for Applejack.

Anyway, what is with the sudden influx of "Sony is doomed!" articles? is this 2006?

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies11d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken11d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga11d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken11d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12511d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91311d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91310d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit10d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher11d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6910d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit10d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher11d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken11d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder11d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades17d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken17d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades17d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii17d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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