Paul Tamburro:
Nintendo pleased many of their long-time detractors with the Wii. After being chastised by the supposedly "mature" gamer for years concerning their alleged catering to a younger crowd (i.e. not giving Princess Peach a huge pair of mammaries with their own physics), the Wii saw them live up to their reputation and produce titles specifically marketed towards kids and the casual gamer.
This gave the anti-Nintendo masses the opportunity to really stick the knife in and twist, even more so than when someone noticed that the GameCube looked a bit like a handbag. Nintendo's "selling out" to the casual market for financial gain was the cancer that was killing the industry, apparently, and the Wii was the first harbinger of the video game apocalypse. The real gamers were going to continue to play war games on their Xbox 360's, whilst those sissy Nintendo fans waggled their Wiimotes at the TV like a bunch of girls.
Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."
Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"
Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”
Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever
Nice one ☝️
It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.
Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.
1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.
2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.
I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.
Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.
@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.
What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.
Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.
And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.
Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.
With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.
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So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.
They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.
Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.
This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.
No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.
Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.
Replies(3)Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?
Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.
Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.
If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.
Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.
But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.
That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.
Anyone remember games for windows live.
I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.
I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.
You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.
"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."
Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.
"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."
Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.
You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.
Yay steam
Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.
How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?
Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.
Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?
Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.
That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.
Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.
Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.
The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point
I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.
Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."
They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.
True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.
Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.
This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.
Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.
Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.
I want Nintendo to be successful regardless of my feelings towards their first party software
Because of blind and stupid hatred? I can understand being uninterested in a console or even critical, but wanting it to fail?
Yes, let's totally hope that Nintendo's project fails and provides less competition for the industry and hurts the employees at the company. Yeah, that's totally progressive. /sarcasm
You see that is where the problem lies. People think just because you critize the Wii U in any way you want it to fail. Just because you have misgivings about a console doesn't necessarily mean you want it to fail. Me and my friend used to argue all the time which was better Nintendo or Sega but neither of us ever wanted each others system to fail. But over sensitive, over zealous fanboys are running around poking and prodding and saying nonsense about how EVERYONE is jealous about Bayonetta 2 and trolling about how since Sony is in trouble maybe Nintendo can take the franchises from them and all sorts of crap. So as usual it is not hate for the system but for the annoying overzealous fanboys who can't keep it in their pants as if Nintendo is the first new system we have ever had in a hundred years.
Nintendo is not above criticism but many people seem to think they are.Their fans remind me of my pet dog when he gets excited. It is fine until he starts biting,pushing and driving you crazy and then you have to push him away and tie him up to calm him down . We Sony fans have taken ever put down and attack every other fan has handed us but Nintendo fans as usual want to pretend that they are being victimized more then anyone else was when their system first came out.We just recently had to listen to how much PASBR is a clone and how much it will fail because SSB is the greatest.I could easily ask 'Why does everyone want Sony to fail' if I wanted to be over dramatic.
There are some gamers out there in the wild that would like to see the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system meets its early grave for a simple reason. They are threatened by the potential it brings to the videogame spectrum. As of right now the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system is the most powerful, and arguably most innovative gaming home console to ever bless the videogame landscape. Its basically a test of strength and a form of flattery at the same time.
A lot of people within this current generation have made many a joke of the Nintendo Wii entertainment system. Laughing at its graphical capability, and calling its award winning motion control functions childish and gimmicky. Now Nintendo has created a home console that brings to the table more power, and has pretty much covered all complaints of its former console outing. There is nothing to point and laugh at anymore, so it has become a threat to many.
Nintendo has been criticized for many reasons this generation. Not having enough 3rd party support was one of the main target opinions. Now that Nintendo has bent over backward to insure the consumer top notch 3rd party support, that is still not good enough to some. I personally feel that some just know that Nintendo has a legit chance of repeat success with the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system, and they want their brand of choice to win the console wars instead. Thats what it boils down to.
At this point it is becoming of comedic value for Nintendo Elite supporters to read about all of this hate. All of the complaining in the world will not stop the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system and its unique tablet like control functions. Us the Nintendo consumer will purchase our console, play our awarding gaming experiences in fresh new unique ways, and continue to be entertainment by internet trash talk from consumers of competing brands.
When the other competing next generation platforms launch to the world. Hopefully all of this silliness can die down, and everyone can enjoy their respective platform of choice. With a smile.
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Who want it to fail??? Anywhere I go or anywhere I read or hear people talk about it, everyone is phrasing it. I haven't seen anyone saying anything bad about it so far other than the fact that some will hold out on buying the console until a price drop.
The question is, when did people became so in love with Nintendo that they are willing to write a idiotic article like this just to give more attention to the WiiU??