Bayonetta 2: Developers Explain Why They Sided With Nintendo

SegmentNext - "A lot of joyful and saddened reactions were seen when Nintendo announced Bayonetta 2 to be heading to the Wii U as an exclusive title.

The saddened reactions off course coming from the ones who are content with their current console and want to play the sequel to the original Bayonetta without buying Nintendo’s console."

[Hatsune-Miku]

Anything short of reassuring the fans that bought the first bayonetta that they'll get bayonetta 2 soon on the system they bought it for is insulting. I know the game is coming to xbox and ps3 sometime down the line because of the install base and potential sales but they need to tell their fans.

[WiiUalpha]

No matter how many times people explain it to you, you will never grasp the fact that it isnt coming to any other console.

I pity you I really do.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Lol...

Below: Negative...

[Pushagree]

They can have the game. Bayonetta is the most shameless, poorly written franchise this generation has ever come up with. I won't miss it's transition to the other side.

[Baka-akaB]

oh yeah of course , with the usual spectrum of "How could you betray us!! we loved you" , usually also always come a shade of "meh the game was crap anyway i dont care , but i'll brag about it"

[Lucretia]

@WiiUalpha.

You know whats crazy, thats what they said when Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 were published by MS, and now look......they change the title a tiny bit and its on ps3 lol.

Never is only a wish from a fanboy.

way to many potential sales to keep it on wii-u.

unless every single gamer buys a wii-u then im sure the sales wont do good.

[Reibooi]

Their response seems like nothing more then BS PR talk. I mean the bottom line is that Bayonetta sold a few million units between the ps3 and 360 and I can almost guarantee that it will probably not even break a million on teh Wii U. It won't have the install base for years to come to do so on top of the fact that Nintendo isn't the place where most gamers would think to find something like Bayonetta in the first place.

If it's true that Sega had cancelled it and Platinum had no other option but to let Nintendo step in like rumors around N4G have suggested then they should just say it. It was either this or nothing. It's alot better then this nonsense PR talk that we got here.

[nintendojunkie28]

I was thinkin' the same thing.I thought about running it by him/her again,but figured what's the point.

[nintendojunkie28]

I don't think you quite understand.Games that are published by Nintendo...stay with Nintendo.Unless they sell or let go of their rights to the franchise,the chances of you ever seeing it on something other than a Nintendo platform are less than 0%.

[Sono421]

Platinum seems very grateful to Nintendo doing this, why can't you so called "fans" do the same?

[Baka-akaB]

There is nothing insulting about release a game where you are actually wanted .

The360/ps3 version was quite confirmed as cancelled on the Sega front , and i dont see your heroes coming to the rescue , as they could and should have .

And i hope for you guys that you'll be right and be able to smirkly say "AH told you so" ... but good luck seeing a Nintendo funded and published game managed to get away from them and be released elsewhere .

Platinum most likely keep the IP so can do spins offs or sequels wherever ... but BAyo2 is most likely protected by contract for Nintendo .

But again hope you are right .

I just wont waste my time and energy hoping , instead will play it in the mean time , and should a new version emerge , i'll just replay it .

[tehpees3]

Exactly. If it wasn't for Nintendo this wouldn't be happening.

[Lucretia]

you know, Sega seems to be going bankrupt or something because they cant seem to publish alot of things anymore. Im very amazed that they are publishing dead or alive.

[CalvinKlein]

I really liked bayonetta and would buy 2 if it were to come to 360 or ps3. I would also buy it for sure If I am to get a wiiU. Im not angry like some because I honestly thought that bayonetta 2 wasnt going to even be made so im happy to see it being made. Also it should be interesting to see it on more powerful hardware.

I thought this was funny tho "Bayonetta is a brand that we want to see become stronger, reaching the hands of more and more gamers, so we have continued to consult with Sega, the previous game’s publisher, on how we can make sure this takes place. Our answer was a new partnership with Nintendo."

He says he want to get bayonetta to as many people as possible so theri solution was to develop it for a console with 0 instal base as opposed to 140million + on ps3/360. Maybe they needed the money and made it a timed exclusive and it will come out on the ps4/xbox3 maybe. Otherwise I dont see how this move gets bayonetta into more people's hands unless by that they meant actually making the game when it wasnt being made ever if not for nintendo funding it.

[stuna1]

Well thought out comment! I also think the answer to everyone question is also in your comment. In order for it to reach its maximum sales potential, it would have to be some type of deal in the background or, some type of spin-off of the series.

Even in the event there isn't, Nintendo really can't be faulted for capitalizing on an opportunity to secure the title for their catalog! I say more power to them.

[zgoldenlionz]

Great comment! It's great that B2 is coming and actually makes me want a wiiu more, I was planning on waiting for the next Zelda before getting one. I'm going to stay optimistic on a multi plat release down the line. Either way I'll get to play this someday. It it's too bad that it's not releasing on multiple consoles because it be a day 1 purchase for me, on,y way that would happen is if I give in and have a wiiu by the time this gets released.

[gamer7804]

Well thought out but nintendo didn't save it, they were just the highest bidder. I don't blame or thank nintendo, but i do blame platinum for not respecting their fans.

[stragomccloud]

It's published by Nintendo. They own the publishing rights. Nintendo is paying the devs. It can't come out on any other system.

Another example is.... Mass Effect. The first game will sadly never be released on PS3.

[Sono421]

How did you possibly get that out of what they said?.... I am really curious as to how your mind works.

[NewMonday]

Can't complain if Nintendo invested to make this game, where Sega wasn't willing to

If Nintedo go the extra mile and buy Platinum games and make them put out games like this and Vanquish regularly they will win back my respect as a gamer and my money

[bitboi]

so...Nintendo fronting the money to platinum and helping save Bayonetta 2 is not enuff to at least give them respect? hmmmm

[DARK WITNESS]

I do think it's positive for Nintendo.

it's kind of funny to see Nintendo trying to get back the "hardcore" fans while MS seem to not care and seem to be going after the casual.

I didn't think much of the first game, but I am sure fans will not like the idea of this.

[Baka-akaB]

Real fans will follow the game wherever it goes , as long as the platform doesnt handicap the franchise .
The wii u will deliver fine for it .

There is no way the bayo franchise need the exclusive power of some potential upcoming monster , as it's hardly the most graphically intense game .

All i know anyway is that Bayonetta 2 (and Vanquish 2) was dead on ps3/360 , and is now alive .

[NewMonday]

@bitboi

If they do this as just a short term stunt like MS did with the 360 only for the to turn their backs on us again then no they don't get respect

Not repeating my mistake of getting a system just to play 2-3 games like I did with the GC

[Baka-akaB]

short exclusive or not , they deserve the respect for saving a cancelled game . It doesnt matter if you feel shafted for getting it elsewhere later , bottom line is , someone has to save the game first

[IQUITN4G]

A big thumbs up to Nintendo for ensuring the continuation of this frachise. Bayonetta may be initially just plain out weird and frankly unappealing to a lot of folk but it's also the best example of the genre and for me personally a system seller. Disappointing for some that it's on a machine people had no intention of purchasing probably but that's how it is. Some fans will be highly unimpressed no doubt but will that honestly stop them selling their soul for this game?- only if they truly didn't understand and love the game in the first place

I adore the Halo franchise for example and would buy another console were it decided MS didn't want the ip any more- obviously not likely

[GribbleGrunger]

So you want to grow your franchise and you thought the best way to do that would be to annoy every single person who bought it on the PS3 or the 360 and hit an install base of 0...

mmmmmmmm... right...

[sikbeta]

Be real, Bayo 1 didn't set the charts on fire, it sold 1m combined: PS360, Sega is cutting left and right and maybe Nintendo offer the cash Sega didn't want to spend on it, now we'll need to see how it performs as an Exclusive game

[wishingW3L]

it sold more than 2 millions and the game didn't even have a triple A budget! That sounds pretty good to me.

On the PS3 alone which had the worst version it sold more than 1 million!

[Ben_Grimm]

@wishingW3L

The game was a Triple A game. Budgets and productions costs are different from company to company. EA's AAA budget game is different from an Indie's AAA game but make no mistake each company has it and takes it seriously.

[Dark-vash]

SEGA wasn't willing to publish the game. Platinum Games searched for another publisher, where Nintendo came and saved the day!

[Ben_Grimm]

Sega canceled the game. Nintendo picked it up. If anything you should be glad somebody somewhere did this or we would have never played part 2.

[Kingdom Come]

"Bayonetta is a brand that we want to see become stronger, reaching the hands of more and more gamers"...

So they made it exclusive to one console?

[Redempteur]

the fault lies within SEGA that decided , they didn't want it anymore ..
it was either nintendo or nothing ...

[ABizzel1]

Brillant isn't it. MIND-BLOWN with that logic <e/s>

That being said, good move for Nintendo. Picking up Bayonetta was a smart move for them, and if they want to be taken seriously as a "Core & Casual" console then they need to keep this up for the core. I'll get a Wii-U probably in 1 - 2 years, after I see Zelda, and just how much 3rd party support the Wii-U receives when the PS4 and Nextbox come out.

[Kingdom Come]

Oh it was undeniably a great move by Nintendo, I myself am not particularly interested with the Bayonnetta franchise, having found the original to be somewhat overrated, but I find Platinum's attempt at reasoning to be somewhat half-assed. Had they claimed that their search for a publisher was expansive and difficult, then it would have been completely understandable for them to accept publishing from Nintendo, but this is not the case. They claim they want to allow more people to experience the franchise ad this is accomplished by moving the franchise to Nintendo's console, however, this isn't expanding the games community, it's swapping communities, which is one, confusing and two, quite insulting to those of who brought the sequel to existence...

[ABizzel1]

The gameplay was amazing, the fights and boss fights were really good.

The story was average at best, and the writing was horrible.

But to me it's an example that gameplay > than all other aspects of a game besides framerate maybe.

[glopez]

kingdom,

Your nintendo? The crying fanboys are nintendo? I ask because you said those who brought the sequel into existence were insulted.

[Kingdom Come]

Without the original being purchased by us gamers, Nintendo wouldn't even consider publishing the sequel, therefor it is down to gamers that a sequel is releasing...

[YoungPlex]

Wow,it makes sense seeing as Sega didn't want to publish it. It's probably one of the smartest, most deviant little moves, Nintendo could've done! I for one applaud them for getting such a well known "hardcore" title on their system, and keeping it exclusive. If it is in fact being published by Nintendo, it'll never makes it's way to another console. It goes to show you how Nintendo is actually thinking and actually trying to get "hardcore" exclusives back via partnerships and incentives. I really can't say that I'm mad, it's just pushing me to actually get up and go reserve one...

[Unlimax]

I guess Sega was busy with marketing Yakuza 5 ( AKA Ryu ga Gotoku 5 in Japan ) lately so they didn't "Accept" the work and it wasn't a perfect timing for them , Don't listen to those who said that Sega didn't want to keep publishing Bayonetta Franchise "FOREVER" .. They just didn't Accept "the timing" to Publish it , That's all !

Its too late to say that ... Nintendo Own the franchise not Just "2" .. GAME OVER !

[smashman98]

u gotta understand it was probably either this or no bayonetta 2 at all I much prefer this

[IQUITN4G]

Considering this game didn't shatter any sales records by being multiplatform, this is hardly a bad choice that they went with WiiU. Brilliant game. I'm glad Nintendo stepped in

[boybato]

I'll just probably watch LP videos as well as compilation of Bayo 2 doing her wicked weave moves in the wiiu.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

I'm happy Bayonetta 2 is coming but it really doesn't feel like WiiU game to me.

[Sano64]

The WiiU is not even out so how do you know what a WiiU game feels like?!?

[Game3s]

Fanboys will be fanboys XD

[Nerdmaster]

Bayonetta was the best hack'n slash I ever played. I loved the game and I usually don't like hack'n slashes. I actually wanted the sequel on PC, but being on Wii U is good enough.

[Apex13]

I never knew people loved the game that much or hate Nintendo the innovators that much. Either way it's sad and for such reactions over A GAME is shockingly sad.

[GearSkiN]

Alright ps and xbox fans stop trolling each other. Time to make piece and attack nintendo CHARGE!! Lol.

[RedDeadLB]

I bet it's a timed exclusive. There will definitely be a ps3/360 port later on. The sales are too much to pass on.

[Dark-vash]

If they manage to get another publisher, maybe!

[RedDeadLB]

The same thing that happened with Ninja Gaiden 2 could happen to Bayonetta 2 so it's plausible. I don't understand the disagrees, it's an objective and validated opinion. Some people..

If some idiot thinks I'm bashing the Wii-u in favor of the 360/PS3 - I don't have any of the aforementioned consoles so I don't give a crap.

[PopRocks359]

Have fun waiting then. Mass Effect and Dead Rising never hit the PS3 though, so there's just as much of a chance of the game never being ported. Not many Nintendo games that don't share the Rare name are on other consoles, by the way.

[R_aVe_N]

I honestly could care less its moving over to the Wii U. I didn't much care for the first so I had no plans of buying the second to begin with. This is no fault of Nintendo or Platnium Games. The way of explaining the move makes no sense though you can't say you want to bring the series to more people when you are releasing it on a New Console. Glad they found somebody to pick it up though. I have no plans on getting a Wii U at least for a few years. It takes 5 games I want to play before I can justify buying a system with Nintendo. I am not a Mario and Zelda fan so it usually takes awhile.

[ash_divine]

Meh, Ninty can have it. I always hated how the first one got a free pass on like everything. Aside from the gameplay, which itself was overrated.

[mochachino]

Yeah, excellent gameplay ruined by EVERYTHING else. The story and music were 2/10.

[PopRocks359]

Oh so we're going to pull the "it sucked anyway" card. Stay classy.

[mochachino]

The real reason: "It sold like shit on PS3 and 360"

If it sold millions on 360 and PS3, Bayonetta 2 would be on PS3 and 360.

[DwightOwen]

Yep. Sega would've opted to publish B2 instead of dumping it for Nintendo to scoop up.

[ohbaby]

Wii U has Rayman Legends and a few good titles. With this game too its definitely worth the purchase. Man so called gamers are sensitive these days. Buy a Wii U and all is right in your world.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

hoepfully its a timed exclusive

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

Oh w8 Nevermind had to educate myself on what being a publisher really ment. As far as my research a Game published by Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony has never slipped on another console. I really may just have to pick up a wiiU in a year or 2.

[ohbaby]

Oooooooh Biiilly

[Kidmyst]

This is starting to remind me of Metal gear Solid 4 and the rumors of it coming to 360 which has yet to happen and the speculation Bayonetta 2 will come to other consoles. I don't plan to buy a WiiU, just nothing there to entice me when with PS4 and 720 will have more than enough of my likes.

[Game3s]

Can you see in the future?

[Thepcz]

read it and weep

[ThatsGaming]

I am not going to buy a $400 console that is technically the same as my 360 or PS3 just to play this game. I loved the first Bayonetta game. But, sorry, Platinum. Until you ship on PS3 or 360 there will be no sale to me...

[TenkoTAiLS]

It amazes me people are using the new console and zero install base to rag on a new game in a series going onto the Wii U instead of the current systems. You want new games on the Wii U to have a reason to buy one, but when they appear you say it's stupid cause it should be on a console with an install base.

A new console doesn't get an install base unless it has new and exciting things to play. Saying a new game or a sequel shouldn't be on a zero install base system is akin to saying you don't want any new systems, because they will all have zero install bases to start with, it's a stupid argument.

There have been plenty of sequels that have jumped system before and there is bound to be more in the future. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Valkyria Cronicles, Kingdom Hearts, Banjo Kazooee, Perfect Dark, Epic Mickey. It's early and it's hard to think of decent examples but it has happened more than people probably care to remember. All this is, is people complaining because it's not on their system of choice. As with all the above examples, if you want to continue playing, you have to buy another system. Scummy that may be, but complaining wont fix it, especially if Nintendo is paying the development bills on this project.

[FinalomegaS]

oh very well said.

funny, 6 years and PS3 and 360 never really got a Monster Hunter game. WiiU isn't even out yet and I hear Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate... plus Byo2... i've been sold for a while.

Love it or hate it, truth is this is coming out. After a few bombardments of videos of the new stuff, I'm sure many will cave in and get it when it comes out.

[-IronMan-]

lol the game wont sale on this console. No one will buy a mediocre console that is practically the same as the other consoles lol. I rather spend my money on something else.

[MonopolyRSV]

Bayonetta was garbage to begin with. The combat gameplay is good, but the story was immature sexualized trash, in a battle of heaven and hell no less. Now they are trying to force it on the younger audience by putting it on the Wii U only.

[DwightOwen]

What makes you think Nintendo is trying to force B2 on younger audiences? It will mostly likely garner an "M" rating like the first one. Having this IP as an exclusive gives the Wii U credibility as a "hardcore" gamers console.

[Knushwood Butt]

Because Max Anarchy bombed?

[DevilishSix]

Nintendo for years has been about supporting kids, casuals, and fans of their franchises. They attempted to gather support from more core gamers with the Wii with some mature titles like Mad World, but it failed.

So why are they announcing a game like Bayonetta that oozed brutality and sexuality in the first game. It doesn't fit.

What is really going on here? Is it a quick grab at core gamers who loved the first and pull them away from PS3/360 or is Ninty really going to embrace core mature games this time?

[PopRocks359]

Because Nintendo supports families and have been marketing the Wii U as a console for families. Nintendo is also publishing Ninja Gaiden III Razor's Edge.

As in kids AND adults. Pixar does the same thing with their movies; it's not that difficult a concept to grasp.

And why are you even questioning it? Without Nintendo stepping in, the game may never have even existed.

[TheHardware]

its this thing called, uhmm "Money"

oh yeah, the guy below me sleeps with fat chicks...lol